Re: Mike Mandel's Spam

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

I'm sure if it were as simple as you wish it would be, he'd've taken 
care of it by now.  Ultimately, it's our responsibility.


On 6/8/2016 2:19 AM, Linda Mentink via Talk wrote:

Hi All,

Remember, this happened just a couple days ago, and he said he didn't
send that message.  Mike, if you're here, please get your issue taken
care of.  It's obvious that you've been hacked, and it's very
irresponsible of you to let these messages continue to clutter up this
list.  I'm not trying to start a fight, but please unsub or something
until you get this resolved.  Thanks.

Regards,

Linda
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Mike Mandel's Spam

[Linda Mentink via Talk]

Hi All,

Remember, this happened just a couple days ago, and he said he 
didn't send that message.  Mike, if you're here, please get your 
issue taken care of.  It's obvious that you've been hacked, and 
it's very irresponsible of you to let these messages continue to 
clutter up this list.  I'm not trying to start a fight, but 
please unsub or something until you get this resolved.  Thanks.


Regards,

Linda
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Re: don't click on this link. Re: good news

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

I just copied the URL into the Duck Duck Go search box and got no 
responses FWIW.


On 6/8/2016 1:17 AM, net bat via Talk wrote:

don't take the chance on this link.
this link was blocked by my eset smart security as a dangerous ,bogus
web site.

-Original Message- From: Mike Mandel via Midimag-ex via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:01 PM
To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; covici ; cr19951999 ;
fenderwal
Subject: good news

Hey,

I've got some good news for you, read more about it here


Pardon my monkey thumbs, Mike Mandel via Midimag-ex

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Re: Full Version of WE

[via Talk]

Nope, you need full version of at least 9.2 for windows 10.

Dennis Long via Talk  wrote:

> Install 9.0 then 9.2 should install.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Robert Byers via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:31 AM
> To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Full Version of WE
> 
> 
> I have just installed Windows 10, But now can't install WE.
> I have the CD of 9.0, and the upgrades of 91,92,93 and94.  None of them will
> install, and 90 can't install on Windows 10.
> Where do I go from here??
> I thought, as we paid for version 9.2, that would be a full version, but not
> so.
> Help please.
> 
> Rob.
> 
> 
> On 8/06/2016 5:14 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:
> >
> > 1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.
> >
> >
> >
> > Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.
> >
> > 2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe mode
> with
> > window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,  
> > you have no easy way to get in to safe mode.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Darrell
> >
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don't click on this link. Re: good news

[net bat via Talk]

don't take the chance on this link.
this link was blocked by my eset smart security as a dangerous ,bogus web site.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Mandel via Midimag-ex via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:01 PM
To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; covici ; cr19951999 ; 
fenderwal

Subject: good news

Hey,

I've got some good news for you, read more about it here 



Pardon my monkey thumbs, Mike Mandel via Midimag-ex

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Re: Full Version of WE

[net bat via Talk]

this will not work.
w e 9.0 will not install under windows 10
you have to email aisquared to request a link for a full w e 9.2 installation 
file. include your w e serial number. save this file. this is the only one that 
will do a fresh install on windows 10. then after it is installed check in the 
w e help pull down for w e upgrades to get the newest w e 9.4 version.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:33 PM
To: 'Robert Byers' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Full Version of WE

Install 9.0 then 9.2 should install.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Byers via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:31 AM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Full Version of WE


I have just installed Windows 10, But now can't install WE.
I have the CD of 9.0, and the upgrades of 91,92,93 and94.  None of them will
install, and 90 can't install on Windows 10.
Where do I go from here??
I thought, as we paid for version 9.2, that would be a full version, but not
so.
Help please.

Rob.


On 8/06/2016 5:14 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

Hello,

What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:

1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.



Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.

2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe mode

with

window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,
you have no easy way to get in to safe mode.

Thanks,

Darrell

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good news

[Mike Mandel via Midimag-ex via Talk]

Hey,

I've got some good news for you, read more about it here 


Pardon my monkey thumbs, Mike Mandel via Midimag-ex

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Re: Full Version of WE

[Neville via Talk]

Hi Robert,

You need WE version 9.2 at least to install on W10.  You will need to 
email Ai Squared support, quoting your serial number,  at

wesupp...@aisquared.com
and request a free downloadedable version of WE.  You can save the 
electronic version of WE to a flash drive or hard drive to run it.


WE 9.3 was the version I downloaded and after installation, updated to 9.4.

I went through all this just last month.

HTH
Neville.


On 8/06/2016 2:30 PM, Robert Byers via Talk wrote:


I have just installed Windows 10, But now can't install WE.
I have the CD of 9.0, and the upgrades of 91,92,93 and94.  None of them
will install, and 90 can't install on Windows 10.
Where do I go from here??
I thought, as we paid for version 9.2, that would be a full version, but
not so.
Help please.

Rob.


On 8/06/2016 5:14 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

Hello,

What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:

1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.



Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.

2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe
mode with
window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,  you
have no easy way to get in to safe mode.

Thanks,

Darrell

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Re: Full Version of WE

[michael's emails via Talk]

Hi Robert you will need the hole version on cd or get ai square to email a 
link to down load the full version of window eyes 9.4.


cheers michael.
-Original Message- 
From: Robert Byers via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 2:30 PM
To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Full Version of WE


I have just installed Windows 10, But now can't install WE.
I have the CD of 9.0, and the upgrades of 91,92,93 and94.  None of them
will install, and 90 can't install on Windows 10.
Where do I go from here??
I thought, as we paid for version 9.2, that would be a full version, but
not so.
Help please.

Rob.


On 8/06/2016 5:14 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

Hello,

What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:

1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.



Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.

2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe mode 
with

window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,  you
have no easy way to get in to safe mode.

Thanks,

Darrell

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RE: Full Version of WE

[Dennis Long via Talk]

Install 9.0 then 9.2 should install.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Byers via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:31 AM
To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Full Version of WE


I have just installed Windows 10, But now can't install WE.
I have the CD of 9.0, and the upgrades of 91,92,93 and94.  None of them will
install, and 90 can't install on Windows 10.
Where do I go from here??
I thought, as we paid for version 9.2, that would be a full version, but not
so.
Help please.

Rob.


On 8/06/2016 5:14 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:
>
> 1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.
>
>
>
> Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.
>
> 2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe mode
with
> window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,  
> you have no easy way to get in to safe mode.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Darrell
>
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Full Version of WE

[Robert Byers via Talk]

I have just installed Windows 10, But now can't install WE.
I have the CD of 9.0, and the upgrades of 91,92,93 and94.  None of them 
will install, and 90 can't install on Windows 10.

Where do I go from here??
I thought, as we paid for version 9.2, that would be a full version, but 
not so.

Help please.

Rob.


On 8/06/2016 5:14 AM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:

Hello,

What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:

1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.



Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.

2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe mode with
window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,  you
have no easy way to get in to safe mode.

Thanks,

Darrell

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Re: F8 and BECKY!

[Casey via Talk]

Hi can you please share where to get this app.
And how to set it up so I can do the same selections as you can with 
this app.

Thank you in advance for any and all help.


--
Casey
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Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

[michael's emails via Talk]

that is correct.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 11:16 PM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

After listening to these webinars, is my understanding correct, I can use
Narrator after the first reboot to complete the upgrade?

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 7:26 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

Oops. It would be a little more helpful if I included the link I referenced.

http://www.gwmicro.com/Training/Tutorials/

Tom


On 6/6/2016 10:22 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

Russ,

There are two webinars on the GW site on upgrading a system to Windows
10. Just go to the following page and then to the headings at level 3
for "Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1" and
"Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2"

Hth,
Tom


On 6/6/2016 9:23 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

That is the info I was looking for.  I take it you used Narrator when
you did the upgrade?

-Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 12:18 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10

I am not sure why my experience is different, but I have two computers
that did not have passwords.  When I upgraded both to Windows 10, it is
true that they did not go directly to the desktop, however I was able to
just press a sign-in button and did not have to set up a password.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ? via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 9:02 AM
To: Russ Kiehne 
Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

Yes, there is no simpal way to do this without to use registry. Very
complicate.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-5 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:52, ‏‏Russ Kiehne ‏ כתב/ה:‬


You are kidding?  You mean there is no way to use windows 10
without editing the registry to bypass the use of a password?

From: Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 7:30 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

No! You have to set password in order to use in windows 10. It's
possible to cancel it, but it' require to use in registry to change it.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-4 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:12, ‏‏Russ Kiehne via Talk
‏ כתב/ה:‬


I have windows 7 setup when I bootup the computer I go directly to
the desktop without a password.  Will this setting remain when I
upgrade to windows 10?
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Re: trying to play dvd on computer

[Ted Larson via Talk]

Net bat:
Thanks for your clarification.  Regards:  Ted Larson

- Original Message - 
From: "net bat via Talk" 
To: "Kevin Barry" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 


Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: trying to play dvd on computer


the windows media player will not play dvd disks without a third party 
codex driver or what ever it is called.
if you have the windows media center this will, but it is not very speech 
friendly

this is not the same as the windows media player.
if you have done a clean install of windows 10 the windows media center 
has been removed. its not there anymore.



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Barry via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:25 PM
To: Ted Larson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to play dvd on computer

Windows media player will do it just fine.
Also, iTunes

On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, Ted Larson via Talk 


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Are there any free dvd players that will work with Window-Eyes?  I just
tried VLC media player and I could not get it to play.  What other free
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some of those described videos from the national library service.  Thanks
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Re: F8 and BECKY!

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,

A simple way of selecting text when browse mode is not available is to 
use the 'select text' app. I have mine set to use F9 to begin the 
selection and shift F9 to end.  The text between these two points is now 
selected and is available for manipulation.  i.e. copy, delete, cut and 
the like.


hth
Neville.


On 8/06/2016 12:20 AM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote:

I use the clipboard.  Go to the line where you want to start copying and hit 
the home key for beginning of line.  Then use the shift key and down arrow 
until you reach the line where you want to stop.  Then hit c control plus c to 
copy.  It works for me.  It's a bit of a pain, but is the only way I can copy 
emails in Becky.  Hope this helps.

Mike



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On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:53:03 -0500
Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:


Hi.

Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.

I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from the 
body of an email in my INCOX.
On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried to toggle browse 
mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not available".

Anybody got a work-around?

Thanks.

Martha
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Re: trying to play dvd on computer

[net bat via Talk]

the windows media player will not play dvd disks without a third party codex 
driver or what ever it is called.
if you have the windows media center this will, but it is not very speech 
friendly

this is not the same as the windows media player.
if you have done a clean install of windows 10 the windows media center has 
been removed. its not there anymore.



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Barry via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:25 PM
To: Ted Larson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to play dvd on computer

Windows media player will do it just fine.
Also, iTunes

On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, Ted Larson via Talk 
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Dear List:
Are there any free dvd players that will work with Window-Eyes?  I just
tried VLC media player and I could not get it to play.  What other free
players might I try?  If I found a player that would work, I could play
some of those described videos from the national library service.  Thanks
for any ideas.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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Re: trying to play dvd on computer

[Kevin Barry via Talk]

Windows media player will do it just fine.
Also, iTunes

On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, Ted Larson via Talk 
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> Dear List:
> Are there any free dvd players that will work with Window-Eyes?  I just
> tried VLC media player and I could not get it to play.  What other free
> players might I try?  If I found a player that would work, I could play
> some of those described videos from the national library service.  Thanks
> for any ideas.  Regards:  Ted Larson
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trying to play dvd on computer

[Ted Larson via Talk]

Dear List:
Are there any free dvd players that will work with Window-Eyes?  I just tried 
VLC media player and I could not get it to play.  What other free players might 
I try?  If I found a player that would work, I could play some of those 
described videos from the national library service.  Thanks for any ideas.  
Regards:  Ted Larson
 
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Re: suggestions for window-eyes

[net bat via Talk]

that depends on if its windows 7 or 8 and up.
its fairly easy with windows 7.
press f8 or is it control f8 as the computer boots. you would have to have 
someone time how long it takes the safe boot menu to pop up. arrow down one 
line and press enter. thats it.
windows 8 and up i don't think there is any way to do it. f8 or control f8 
opens a windows type mouse driven screen. i don't think there is any sound 
drivers loaded at this time. i don't even know if you can boot to safe mode on 
the screen because i don't have anyone to tell me what options it has.


-Original Message- 
From: Darrell Bowles via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 12:14 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: suggestions for window-eyes

Hello,

What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:

1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.



Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.

2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe mode with
window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,  you
have no easy way to get in to safe mode.

Thanks,

Darrell

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suggestions for window-eyes

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

Hello,

What I would like to see in the new windoweyes version are the following:

1.   The ability to use windows speech recognition.

 

Currently, only System access works fully  with this feature of windows.

2.   Also, I would like to see an easier way to get in to safe mode with
window-eyes. While safe mode  is now accessible once you are in it,  you
have no easy way to get in to safe mode.

Thanks,

Darrell

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RE: Introduction

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hello Steven,

Welcom aboard! Smile
I'm on the scripting list as well, and so we'll see you over there too.

All the best,

Rod

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Of Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:29 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Introduction

Dear all,

Just a quick message to say that I am a new user to the list.
I Have just started to try out Window Eyes, I am currently a JAWS user but
would like to keep my options open.
I Have one particular application at the moment which is non-standard in
some ways and I need to script it if possible.
That is really the first stumbling block but from my initial tests, I like
what I find a lot!



Steven Hicks
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Cornwall I.T. Services (CITS)
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Re: F8 and BECKY!

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Steve,

I am using it the same way. When you get an html mail that is not really
good readable as text, I press tab to the attachment area and open the
html file there in internet explorer.
You have to turn on the attach html message option in the tools, general
setup menu ofcource.

Regards, Marten


On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:27:33 -0500 Steve Jacobson via Talk 
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> Thanks, I must have turned that off a long time ago.  I like consistency so
> will leave that option turned off, but it is good to be reminded that it is
> there.  It now makes sense why Martha sometimes could use F8 and sometimes
> not.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marten Post Uiterweer [mailto:marte...@xs4all.nl] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:18 AM
> To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!
> 
> Steve,
> 
> you can read html messages in browse mode if you like it.
> Go to tools, general setup and the message view tabcontrol.
> Shift tab here to:
> html view
> In your case it is set to:
> convert to plain text
> I have set it the same, but you can also set it to:
> view with IE component
> 
> When opening a html mail, you can use the browse mode and when opening a
> text based mail, it will not use browse mode.
> 
> Regards, Marten
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:53:00 -0500 Steve Jacobson via Talk
>  wrote:
> 
> > Martha,
> > 
> > I don't know of any cases where Browse Mode works in Becky.  That's one of
> > the reasons I like it for email, although there are some advantages to
> > Browse Mode sometimes.  One can just treat the text of an email just as
> one
> > selects text in most applications.  Am I not understanding the issue?
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Steve Jacobson
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:20 AM
> > To: Martha Reaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > 
> > Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!
> > 
> > I use the clipboard.  Go to the line where you want to start copying and
> hit
> > the home key for beginning of line.  Then use the shift key and down arrow
> > until you reach the line where you want to stop.  Then hit c control plus
> c
> > to copy.  It works for me.  It's a bit of a pain, but is the only way I
> can
> > copy emails in Becky.  Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> > www.woodeneyemusic.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:53:03 -0500
> > Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi.
> > > 
> > > Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.
> > > 
> > > I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from
> > the body of an email in my INCOX.
> > > On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried
> to
> > toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not
> > available".
> > > 
> > > Anybody got a work-around?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Martha
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RE: F8 and BECKY!

[Steve Jacobson via Talk]

Thanks, I must have turned that off a long time ago.  I like consistency so
will leave that option turned off, but it is good to be reminded that it is
there.  It now makes sense why Martha sometimes could use F8 and sometimes
not.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


-Original Message-
From: Marten Post Uiterweer [mailto:marte...@xs4all.nl] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:18 AM
To: Steve Jacobson ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!

Steve,

you can read html messages in browse mode if you like it.
Go to tools, general setup and the message view tabcontrol.
Shift tab here to:
html view
In your case it is set to:
convert to plain text
I have set it the same, but you can also set it to:
view with IE component

When opening a html mail, you can use the browse mode and when opening a
text based mail, it will not use browse mode.

Regards, Marten



On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:53:00 -0500 Steve Jacobson via Talk
 wrote:

> Martha,
> 
> I don't know of any cases where Browse Mode works in Becky.  That's one of
> the reasons I like it for email, although there are some advantages to
> Browse Mode sometimes.  One can just treat the text of an email just as
one
> selects text in most applications.  Am I not understanding the issue?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:20 AM
> To: Martha Reaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!
> 
> I use the clipboard.  Go to the line where you want to start copying and
hit
> the home key for beginning of line.  Then use the shift key and down arrow
> until you reach the line where you want to stop.  Then hit c control plus
c
> to copy.  It works for me.  It's a bit of a pain, but is the only way I
can
> copy emails in Becky.  Hope this helps.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
> www.woodeneyemusic.com
> 
> 
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:53:03 -0500
> Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.
> > 
> > I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from
> the body of an email in my INCOX.
> > On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried
to
> toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not
> available".
> > 
> > Anybody got a work-around?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
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RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10

[Steve Jacobson via Talk]

I don't know if this happens on the first reboot or not, but I started Narrator 
too soon.  It came up talking but there weren't  any other windows that one 
could ALT-TAB to except for Narrator and also the window that lets you press 
any key to see what it does.  I closed Narrator and let the upgrade go on its 
way and no dammage seemed to be done.  It seems to me that it would have been 
simple for Microsoft to include a sound when the upgrade was complete, though.  
Since one can bring up Narrator, the sound drivers are obviously functioning.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:22 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
; Tom Kingston 
Subject: RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10

It is usually after the second reboot, but yes that is correct. Windows-Enter 
will enable/disable Narrator, and you can use CPS+Left and CAPS+Right to review 
the contents of each screen.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

After listening to these webinars, is my understanding correct, I can use 
Narrator after the first reboot to complete the upgrade?

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 7:26 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

Oops. It would be a little more helpful if I included the link I referenced.

http://www.gwmicro.com/Training/Tutorials/

Tom


On 6/6/2016 10:22 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Russ,
>
> There are two webinars on the GW site on upgrading a system to Windows
> 10. Just go to the following page and then to the headings at level 3
> for "Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1" and
> "Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2"
>
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 6/6/2016 9:23 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
>> That is the info I was looking for.  I take it you used Narrator when
>> you did the upgrade?
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>
>> I am not sure why my experience is different, but I have two computers
>> that did not have passwords.  When I upgraded both to Windows 10, it is
>> true that they did not go directly to the desktop, however I was able to
>> just press a sign-in button and did not have to set up a password.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ? via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 9:02 AM
>> To: Russ Kiehne 
>> Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>
>> Yes, there is no simpal way to do this without to use registry. Very
>> complicate.
>>
>> Sent from  my iphone
>>
>> ‫ב-5 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:52, ‏‏Russ Kiehne ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>
>>> You are kidding?  You mean there is no way to use windows 10
>>> without editing the registry to bypass the use of a password?
>>>
>>> From: Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 7:30 AM
>>> To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>>
>>> No! You have to set password in order to use in windows 10. It's
>>> possible to cancel it, but it' require to use in registry to change it.
>>>
>>> Sent from  my iphone
>>>
>>> ‫ב-4 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:12, ‏‏Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>>
 I have windows 7 setup when I bootup the computer I go directly to
 the desktop without a password.  Will this setting remain when I
 upgrade to windows 10?
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Re: F8 and BECKY!

[Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk]

Steve,

you can read html messages in browse mode if you like it.
Go to tools, general setup and the message view tabcontrol.
Shift tab here to:
html view
In your case it is set to:
convert to plain text
I have set it the same, but you can also set it to:
view with IE component

When opening a html mail, you can use the browse mode and when opening a
text based mail, it will not use browse mode.

Regards, Marten



On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 09:53:00 -0500 Steve Jacobson via Talk 
 wrote:

> Martha,
> 
> I don't know of any cases where Browse Mode works in Becky.  That's one of
> the reasons I like it for email, although there are some advantages to
> Browse Mode sometimes.  One can just treat the text of an email just as one
> selects text in most applications.  Am I not understanding the issue?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:20 AM
> To: Martha Reaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> 
> Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!
> 
> I use the clipboard.  Go to the line where you want to start copying and hit
> the home key for beginning of line.  Then use the shift key and down arrow
> until you reach the line where you want to stop.  Then hit c control plus c
> to copy.  It works for me.  It's a bit of a pain, but is the only way I can
> copy emails in Becky.  Hope this helps.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
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> 
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:53:03 -0500
> Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:
> 
> > Hi.
> > 
> > Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.
> > 
> > I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from
> the body of an email in my INCOX.
> > On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried to
> toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not
> available".
> > 
> > Anybody got a work-around?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Martha
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RE: F8 and BECKY!

[Steve Jacobson via Talk]

Martha,

I don't know of any cases where Browse Mode works in Becky.  That's one of
the reasons I like it for email, although there are some advantages to
Browse Mode sometimes.  One can just treat the text of an email just as one
selects text in most applications.  Am I not understanding the issue?


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:20 AM
To: Martha Reaney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: F8 and BECKY!

I use the clipboard.  Go to the line where you want to start copying and hit
the home key for beginning of line.  Then use the shift key and down arrow
until you reach the line where you want to stop.  Then hit c control plus c
to copy.  It works for me.  It's a bit of a pain, but is the only way I can
copy emails in Becky.  Hope this helps.

Mike



www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:53:03 -0500
Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.
> 
> I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from
the body of an email in my INCOX.
> On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried to
toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not
available".
> 
> Anybody got a work-around?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Martha
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Re: F8 and BECKY!

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

I use the clipboard.  Go to the line where you want to start copying and hit 
the home key for beginning of line.  Then use the shift key and down arrow 
until you reach the line where you want to stop.  Then hit c control plus c to 
copy.  It works for me.  It's a bit of a pain, but is the only way I can copy 
emails in Becky.  Hope this helps.

Mike



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www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:53:03 -0500
Martha Reaney via Talk  wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.
> 
> I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from the 
> body of an email in my INCOX.
> On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried to 
> toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not 
> available".
> 
> Anybody got a work-around?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Martha
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RE: F8 and BECKY!

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

In those emails the IE engine isn't used so browse mode4 isn't needed. Just use 
ctrl-shift-arrow keys to select.
I went into the display and turned off html messages so they all don't use 
browse mode.


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Martha Reaney via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:53 AM
To: via Talk 
Subject: F8 and BECKY!

Hi.

Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.

I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from the 
body of an email in my INCOX.
On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried to 
toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not available".

Anybody got a work-around?

Thanks.

Martha
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F8 and BECKY!

[Martha Reaney via Talk]

Hi.

Using WE 9.4, Win 10 and latest BECKY!.

I have some emails where I am able to use F8 to block and copy text from the 
body of an email in my INCOX.
On other INBOX emails, f8 does not work.  On those emails I have tried to 
toggle browse mode using control shift a, but hear "browse mode not available".

Anybody got a work-around?

Thanks.

Martha
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RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10

[Steve Clower via Talk]

It is usually after the second reboot, but yes that is correct. Windows-Enter 
will enable/disable Narrator, and you can use CPS+Left and CAPS+Right to review 
the contents of each screen.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:16 AM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

After listening to these webinars, is my understanding correct, I can use 
Narrator after the first reboot to complete the upgrade?

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 7:26 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

Oops. It would be a little more helpful if I included the link I referenced.

http://www.gwmicro.com/Training/Tutorials/

Tom


On 6/6/2016 10:22 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Russ,
>
> There are two webinars on the GW site on upgrading a system to Windows
> 10. Just go to the following page and then to the headings at level 3
> for "Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1" and
> "Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2"
>
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 6/6/2016 9:23 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
>> That is the info I was looking for.  I take it you used Narrator when
>> you did the upgrade?
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>
>> I am not sure why my experience is different, but I have two computers
>> that did not have passwords.  When I upgraded both to Windows 10, it is
>> true that they did not go directly to the desktop, however I was able to
>> just press a sign-in button and did not have to set up a password.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ? via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 9:02 AM
>> To: Russ Kiehne 
>> Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>
>> Yes, there is no simpal way to do this without to use registry. Very
>> complicate.
>>
>> Sent from  my iphone
>>
>> ‫ב-5 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:52, ‏‏Russ Kiehne ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>
>>> You are kidding?  You mean there is no way to use windows 10
>>> without editing the registry to bypass the use of a password?
>>>
>>> From: Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 7:30 AM
>>> To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10
>>>
>>> No! You have to set password in order to use in windows 10. It's
>>> possible to cancel it, but it' require to use in registry to change it.
>>>
>>> Sent from  my iphone
>>>
>>> ‫ב-4 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:12, ‏‏Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>> ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>>
 I have windows 7 setup when I bootup the computer I go directly to
 the desktop without a password.  Will this setting remain when I
 upgrade to windows 10?
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Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

After listening to these webinars, is my understanding correct, I can use 
Narrator after the first reboot to complete the upgrade?


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 7:26 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

Oops. It would be a little more helpful if I included the link I referenced.

http://www.gwmicro.com/Training/Tutorials/

Tom


On 6/6/2016 10:22 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

Russ,

There are two webinars on the GW site on upgrading a system to Windows
10. Just go to the following page and then to the headings at level 3
for "Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 1" and
"Upgrading a PC with Window-Eyes to Windows 10 - Part 2"

Hth,
Tom


On 6/6/2016 9:23 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

That is the info I was looking for.  I take it you used Narrator when
you did the upgrade?

-Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 12:18 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Question about upgrading to windows 10

I am not sure why my experience is different, but I have two computers
that did not have passwords.  When I upgraded both to Windows 10, it is
true that they did not go directly to the desktop, however I was able to
just press a sign-in button and did not have to set up a password.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ? via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 9:02 AM
To: Russ Kiehne 
Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

Yes, there is no simpal way to do this without to use registry. Very
complicate.

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‫ב-5 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:52, ‏‏Russ Kiehne ‏ כתב/ה:‬


You are kidding?  You mean there is no way to use windows 10
without editing the registry to bypass the use of a password?

From: Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 7:30 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Question about upgrading to windows 10

No! You have to set password in order to use in windows 10. It's
possible to cancel it, but it' require to use in registry to change it.

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‫ב-4 ביוני 2016, בשעה 16:12, ‏‏Russ Kiehne via Talk
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I have windows 7 setup when I bootup the computer I go directly to
the desktop without a password.  Will this setting remain when I
upgrade to windows 10?
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Re: Introduction

[Samuel Wilkins via Talk]

Hello Steve, good that you are trying it out.  I'm sure that scripts (or 
apps as they are called in Window-Eyes) can be written for the non 
standard programme.  In fact, it would be a lot easier than Jaws, as 
Window-Eyes will work with programming languages that support com plus 
automation, which I believe is most programming languages, so it does 
not require a proprietary format like Jaws does.



On 07/06/2016 08:29, Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
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Dear all,

Just a quick message to say that I am a new user to the list.
I Have just started to try out Window Eyes, I am currently a JAWS user but 
would like to keep my options open.
I Have one particular application at the moment which is non-standard in some 
ways and I need to script it if possible.
That is really the first stumbling block but from my initial tests, I like what 
I find a lot!



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Introduction

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) via Talk]

Dear all,

Just a quick message to say that I am a new user to the list.
I Have just started to try out Window Eyes, I am currently a JAWS user but 
would like to keep my options open.
I Have one particular application at the moment which is non-standard in some 
ways and I need to script it if possible.
That is really the first stumbling block but from my initial tests, I like what 
I find a lot!



Steven Hicks
Servicedesk 2 team Leader
Cornwall I.T. Services (CITS)
Office:  01209 318620
Email:  steven.hi...@nhs.net




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