Re: itunes version 12.6 is a mess.

2017-03-23 Thread joseph weakland via Talk 
i know itunes is a mess because nvda says unknown unknown and i emailed 
apple accessibility
- Original Message - 
From: "Sue J. Ward via Talk" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:44 PM
Subject: itunes version 12.6 is a mess.


Hello. I was wondering have any of you downloaded the latest version of 
iTunes which is 12.6.0.95. I updated it and when I launched it window eyes 
read it the tree view list of items then seems like iTunes froze up and 
everything stopped. I even tried with NVDA same thing happened plus when I 
looked in the program files the program had several things about web kit 
and java, am thinking why is this happening? Even ending the process was a 
struggle. So I had to revert back to version 12.5.5 which came out in 
December of 2016. When I reverted back to the old version I again looked 
in the program files and did not see anything about web kit or java stuff 
so why the change in the newer version? So should I email Apple and let 
them know what I am experiencing? By the way am running windows 7. Plus 
since I had to revert back to the old version had to remove everything am 
getting my list of radio stations and re downloading the apps. Just 
thought I would ask on the list.


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itunes version 12.6 is a mess.

2017-03-23 Thread Sue J. Ward via Talk 
Hello. I was wondering have any of you downloaded the latest version of 
iTunes which is 12.6.0.95. I updated it and when I launched it window 
eyes read it the tree view list of items then seems like iTunes froze up 
and everything stopped. I even tried with NVDA same thing happened plus 
when I looked in the program files the program had several things about 
web kit and java, am thinking why is this happening? Even ending the 
process was a struggle. So I had to revert back to version 12.5.5 which 
came out in December of 2016. When I reverted back to the old version I 
again looked in the program files and did not see anything about web kit 
or java stuff so why the change in the newer version? So should I email 
Apple and let them know what I am experiencing? By the way am running 
windows 7. Plus since I had to revert back to the old version had to 
remove everything am getting my list of radio stations and re 
downloading the apps. Just thought I would ask on the list.


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Re: Windows 8 question

2017-03-23 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk 

Tony,
This sounds more like the alternative functions of the F-keys on your 
keyboard got activated. The quickest way to check is to open the 
Window-Eyes control panel and press F1. It should open the Window-Eyes 
manual. You can also try F6 in IE. It should go from the content window 
to the address bar.
If these keys do something different or nothing you'll have to figure 
out how to get them back on your keyboard.

Hth,
Tom


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Hello guys, I have an old PC running windows 8.1. I guess some updates came in 
and Alt F4 no longer closes programs, instead it opens a context menu that  
have to use the arrow keys to move to close/exit. Also when on the desktop I 
used to be able to hit alt f4 and would get the shutdown menu. Now I have to 
use the mouse keys to get to the start button and right click and use the arrow 
keys to get to shut down the pc. Anyone know how to change this back??? Tony C
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Re: We are alive

2017-03-23 Thread Loy via Talk 
A great 22 years of accessibility!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Herzler via Talk 
  To: Sky Mundell ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:33 PM
  Subject: Re: We are alive


  Sky Wow 22 years old. I still remember getting the disks in the mail and a GW 
Micro key chain. I had not thought about that being 22 years old until seeing 
your message. 



  > On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk 
 wrote:
  > 
  > To add to this, you know how old Window-Eyes is going to be in October?  Its
  > going to be 22 years old, coming up on October of 1995.
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
  > Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk
  > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:41 PM
  > To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
  > Subject: RE: We are alive
  > 
  > Pam: the download is instead of the old fashioned dvd.  It is available to
  > paid users of Window-Eyes.
  > 
  > Once the email is received by the person requesting the downloadable
  > install, the access to the supplied link is time limited - i.e. - two or
  > three days.
  > 
  > Vaughan.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Talk
  > [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
  > Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
  > Sent: Friday, 24 March 2017 3:18 a.m.
  > To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: We are alive
  > 
  > What do you mean you have asked for a copy of your download to be put on
  > their website?  What download?  Pam.
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: Curtis Delzer via Talk
  > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:10 AM
  > To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: We are alive
  > 
  > I have asked, many times for a copy of my download to be put on their web
  > site, and no response, is my answer. I have 9.5.3, but not 9.5.4 CD.
  > -
  > Curtis Delzer, HS.
  > WB6HEF
  > San Bernardino, CA
  > 
  > On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:01:04 +1300
  > Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:
  > 
  >> With respect - even if Window-eyes development and sales cease, 
  >> continued use of Window-eyes will lock people into legacy computing.
  >> 
  >> 
  >> I've just fought unsuccessfully with Window-eyes, Internet Explorer 
  >> and my bank's web site and my non-technical view is that the bank 
  >> makes changes to its coding which make Window-eyes unstable.  
  >> Microsoft have still locked us out of the Edge Browser, and even if it 
  >> truly commits to unlocking it, Will Window-Eyes know about Edge's latest
  > and greatest.
  >> 
  >>   I don't understand why people are buying cds when a personalised 
  >> link to your serial number can be asked for at no cost.  Transfer the 
  >> downloaded file to an external storage device.
  >> 
  >>  A working install from scratch is obviously sensible, but its value 
  >> will reduce in the longer term as other parts of our computing 
  >> experience change.
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> Based on comments from other users, I won't be hanging on the phone 
  >> for 45 plus minutes to talk to someone who doesn't know about 
  >> Window-Eyes - I do not live in the United States, and Window-Eyes is 
  >> no lonhger worth the telephone charges.
  >> 
  >>   And probably: to add to the contempt wiht which VFO treats its 
  >> customers, i'll be told to talk to my local dealer.
  >> 
  >> 
  >> If I were to ask who my local Window-Eyes dealer is, i'll be given the 
  >> name of that dealer whom I know to be  Window-Eyes useless.
  >> 
  >> 
  >> If CSUN and official announcements reveal "an exciting new screen reader" 
  >> which fixes all the bugs we are putting up with, i'll part with cash.  
  >> I need a working screen reader, which is ready for when I have to 
  >> update hardware and applications.  I do not want it to be JFW, but i'd 
  >> respond positively to a new screen reader which has been designed and 
  >> developed by all of this talent which VFO apparently now has.
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> Vaughan.
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
  >>> On 2/26/2017 1:20 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
  >>> Yes, it is sad that at some point our beloved win eyes may cease to 
  >>> exist.
  >>> 
   
  >>> However, as long as we users still talk to each other, then the list 
  >>> is indeed alive and  will survive for some time yet.
  >>> 
  >>> I was concerned that if I had a probmem with win eyes, I would not 
  >>> be able to get support, so, I phoned fo and purchased the latest 
  >>> versioon of win eyes and if My version of win eyes gets sick and is 
  >>> unable to run, then I can reinstall 9.5.4 and win eyes will live 
  >>> again.
  >>> 
  >>> At present, I am running 9.5.4 on both a windows 7 and windows 10 
  >>> computers.
  >>> 
   
  >>> And as long as we have wonderful like Rod and others, we are not 
  >>> buried yet.

Re: We are alive

2017-03-23 Thread Bill Herzler via Talk 
Sky Wow 22 years old. I still remember getting the disks in the mail and a GW 
Micro key chain. I had not thought about that being 22 years old until seeing 
your message. 



> On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> To add to this, you know how old Window-Eyes is going to be in October?  Its
> going to be 22 years old, coming up on October of 1995.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:41 PM
> To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: We are alive
> 
> Pam: the download is instead of the old fashioned dvd.  It is available to
> paid users of Window-Eyes.
> 
> Once the email is received by the person requesting the downloadable
> install, the access to the supplied link is time limited - i.e. - two or
> three days.
> 
> Vaughan.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Friday, 24 March 2017 3:18 a.m.
> To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: We are alive
> 
> What do you mean you have asked for a copy of your download to be put on
> their website?  What download?  Pam.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Curtis Delzer via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:10 AM
> To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: We are alive
> 
> I have asked, many times for a copy of my download to be put on their web
> site, and no response, is my answer. I have 9.5.3, but not 9.5.4 CD.
> -
> Curtis Delzer, HS.
> WB6HEF
> San Bernardino, CA
> 
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:01:04 +1300
> Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:
> 
>> With respect - even if Window-eyes development and sales cease, 
>> continued use of Window-eyes will lock people into legacy computing.
>> 
>> 
>> I've just fought unsuccessfully with Window-eyes, Internet Explorer 
>> and my bank's web site and my non-technical view is that the bank 
>> makes changes to its coding which make Window-eyes unstable.  
>> Microsoft have still locked us out of the Edge Browser, and even if it 
>> truly commits to unlocking it, Will Window-Eyes know about Edge's latest
> and greatest.
>> 
>>   I don't understand why people are buying cds when a personalised 
>> link to your serial number can be asked for at no cost.  Transfer the 
>> downloaded file to an external storage device.
>> 
>>  A working install from scratch is obviously sensible, but its value 
>> will reduce in the longer term as other parts of our computing 
>> experience change.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Based on comments from other users, I won't be hanging on the phone 
>> for 45 plus minutes to talk to someone who doesn't know about 
>> Window-Eyes - I do not live in the United States, and Window-Eyes is 
>> no lonhger worth the telephone charges.
>> 
>>   And probably: to add to the contempt wiht which VFO treats its 
>> customers, i'll be told to talk to my local dealer.
>> 
>> 
>> If I were to ask who my local Window-Eyes dealer is, i'll be given the 
>> name of that dealer whom I know to be  Window-Eyes useless.
>> 
>> 
>> If CSUN and official announcements reveal "an exciting new screen reader" 
>> which fixes all the bugs we are putting up with, i'll part with cash.  
>> I need a working screen reader, which is ready for when I have to 
>> update hardware and applications.  I do not want it to be JFW, but i'd 
>> respond positively to a new screen reader which has been designed and 
>> developed by all of this talent which VFO apparently now has.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Vaughan.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/26/2017 1:20 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
>>> Yes, it is sad that at some point our beloved win eyes may cease to 
>>> exist.
>>> 
 
>>> However, as long as we users still talk to each other, then the list 
>>> is indeed alive and  will survive for some time yet.
>>> 
>>> I was concerned that if I had a probmem with win eyes, I would not 
>>> be able to get support, so, I phoned fo and purchased the latest 
>>> versioon of win eyes and if My version of win eyes gets sick and is 
>>> unable to run, then I can reinstall 9.5.4 and win eyes will live 
>>> again.
>>> 
>>> At present, I am running 9.5.4 on both a windows 7 and windows 10 
>>> computers.
>>> 
 
>>> And as long as we have wonderful like Rod and others, we are not 
>>> buried yet.
>>> 
>>> Long live win eyes
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> 
 
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RE: We are alive

2017-03-23 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk 
To add to this, you know how old Window-Eyes is going to be in October?  Its
going to be 22 years old, coming up on October of 1995.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:41 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: We are alive

Pam: the download is instead of the old fashioned dvd.  It is available to
paid users of Window-Eyes.

Once the email is received by the person requesting the downloadable
install, the access to the supplied link is time limited - i.e. - two or
three days.

Vaughan.

 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Friday, 24 March 2017 3:18 a.m.
To: Curtis Delzer; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: We are alive

What do you mean you have asked for a copy of your download to be put on
their website?  What download?  Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:10 AM
To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: We are alive

I have asked, many times for a copy of my download to be put on their web
site, and no response, is my answer. I have 9.5.3, but not 9.5.4 CD.
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
WB6HEF
San Bernardino, CA

On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:01:04 +1300
Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:

> With respect - even if Window-eyes development and sales cease, 
> continued use of Window-eyes will lock people into legacy computing.
>
>
> I've just fought unsuccessfully with Window-eyes, Internet Explorer 
> and my bank's web site and my non-technical view is that the bank 
> makes changes to its coding which make Window-eyes unstable.  
> Microsoft have still locked us out of the Edge Browser, and even if it 
> truly commits to unlocking it, Will Window-Eyes know about Edge's latest
and greatest.
>
>I don't understand why people are buying cds when a personalised 
> link to your serial number can be asked for at no cost.  Transfer the 
> downloaded file to an external storage device.
>
>   A working install from scratch is obviously sensible, but its value 
> will reduce in the longer term as other parts of our computing 
> experience change.
>
>
>
>
> Based on comments from other users, I won't be hanging on the phone 
> for 45 plus minutes to talk to someone who doesn't know about 
> Window-Eyes - I do not live in the United States, and Window-Eyes is 
> no lonhger worth the telephone charges.
>
>And probably: to add to the contempt wiht which VFO treats its 
> customers, i'll be told to talk to my local dealer.
>
>
> If I were to ask who my local Window-Eyes dealer is, i'll be given the 
> name of that dealer whom I know to be  Window-Eyes useless.
>
>
> If CSUN and official announcements reveal "an exciting new screen reader" 
> which fixes all the bugs we are putting up with, i'll part with cash.  
> I need a working screen reader, which is ready for when I have to 
> update hardware and applications.  I do not want it to be JFW, but i'd 
> respond positively to a new screen reader which has been designed and 
> developed by all of this talent which VFO apparently now has.
>
>
>
>
> Vaughan.
>
>
>
>
> On 2/26/2017 1:20 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
> > Yes, it is sad that at some point our beloved win eyes may cease to 
> > exist.
> >
> >   >
> > However, as long as we users still talk to each other, then the list 
> > is indeed alive and  will survive for some time yet.
> >
> > I was concerned that if I had a probmem with win eyes, I would not 
> > be able to get support, so, I phoned fo and purchased the latest 
> > versioon of win eyes and if My version of win eyes gets sick and is 
> > unable to run, then I can reinstall 9.5.4 and win eyes will live 
> > again.
> >
> > At present, I am running 9.5.4 on both a windows 7 and windows 10 
> > computers.
> >
> >   >
> > And as long as we have wonderful like Rod and others, we are not 
> > buried yet.
> >
> > Long live win eyes
> >
> > Don
> >
> >   >
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Trouble with Thunderbird

2017-03-23 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk 
Hi, Folks.  I was changing something in Windows 10 regarding user 
accounts.  When I got back into Thunderbird, all my other emails (over 
600 of them) were gone.  How do I get them back? Thanks.--Matthew Chao.




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Re: yesterday's app update

2017-03-23 Thread brice Mijares via Talk 

Well, I'm glad I allowed the update. Thanks for the info.

On 3/23/2017 9:40 AM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:

It runs a check on your Window-Eyes installation in relation to a
specific problem you may be having, so support can see what's going on.


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Re: yesterday's app update

2017-03-23 Thread Reg Webb via Talk 
It runs a check on your Window-Eyes installation in relation to a
specific problem you may be having, so support can see what's going on.
-- 
Reg


On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:38:09 -0700
brice Mijares via Talk  wrote:

> I believe the app was diat.we. What is this app for?
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yesterday's app update

2017-03-23 Thread brice Mijares via Talk 

I believe the app was diat.we. What is this app for?
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Windows 8 question

2017-03-23 Thread Tony C via Talk 
Hello guys, I have an old PC running windows 8.1. I guess some updates came in 
and Alt F4 no longer closes programs, instead it opens a context menu that  
have to use the arrow keys to move to close/exit. Also when on the desktop I 
used to be able to hit alt f4 and would get the shutdown menu. Now I have to 
use the mouse keys to get to the start button and right click and use the arrow 
keys to get to shut down the pc. Anyone know how to change this back??? Tony C
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Re: We are alive

2017-03-23 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk 
Yes, and there was some kind of ap update, because when I turned the 
computer on, I got those tones, and it said there was an ap update and that 
I could download it.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Loy via Talk

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:16 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: We are alive


 I am a paid user of WE. Today I had a problem with one of the apps not 
working properly. I emailed wesupp...@aisquared.com and I got a response 
that a fix would be coming before the end of the day and I got the app 
update that day. So WE support is still alive.

 -
 Curtis Delzer, HS.
 WB6HEF
 San Bernardino, CA

 On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:01:04 +1300
 Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:

 > With respect - even if Window-eyes development and sales cease, 
continued use of Window-eyes will lock people into legacy computing.

 >
 >
 > I've just fought unsuccessfully with Window-eyes, Internet Explorer and 
my bank's web site and my non-technical view is that the bank makes changes 
to its coding which make Window-eyes unstable.  Microsoft have still locked 
us out of the Edge Browser, and even if it truly commits to unlocking it, 
Will Window-Eyes know about Edge's latest and greatest.

 >
 >I don't understand why people are buying cds when a personalised link 
to your serial number can be asked for at no cost.  Transfer the downloaded 
file to an external storage device.

 >
 >   A working install from scratch is obviously sensible, but its value 
will reduce in the longer term as other parts of our computing experience 
change.

 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Based on comments from other users, I won't be hanging on the phone for 
45 plus minutes to talk to someone who doesn't know about Window-Eyes - I do 
not live in the United States, and Window-Eyes is no lonhger worth the 
telephone charges.

 >
 >And probably: to add to the contempt wiht which VFO treats its 
customers, i'll be told to talk to my local dealer.

 >
 >
 > If I were to ask who my local Window-Eyes dealer is, i'll be given the 
name of that dealer whom I know to be  Window-Eyes useless.

 >
 >
 > If CSUN and official announcements reveal "an exciting new screen 
reader" which fixes all the bugs we are putting up with, i'll part with 
cash.  I need a working screen reader, which is ready for when I have to 
update hardware and applications.  I do not want it to be JFW, but i'd 
respond positively to a new screen reader which has been designed and 
developed by all of this talent which VFO apparently now has.

 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Vaughan.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > On 2/26/2017 1:20 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
 > > Yes, it is sad that at some point our beloved win eyes may cease to 
exist.

 > >
 > >   >
 > > However, as long as we users still talk to each other, then the list 
is

 > > indeed alive and  will survive for some time yet.
 > >
 > > I was concerned that if I had a probmem with win eyes, I would not be 
able
 > > to get support, so, I phoned fo and purchased the latest versioon of 
win
 > > eyes and if My version of win eyes gets sick and is unable to run, 
then I

 > > can reinstall 9.5.4 and win eyes will live again.
 > >
 > > At present, I am running 9.5.4 on both a windows 7 and windows 10 
computers.

 > >
 > >   >
 > > And as long as we have wonderful like Rod and others, we are not 
buried yet.

 > >
 > > Long live win eyes
 > >
 > > Don
 > >
 > >   >
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Re: We are alive

2017-03-23 Thread Loy via Talk 
They don't put it on the web site. You email your serial number and they give 
you a download link to download your copy of Window Eyes.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk 
  To: Curtis Delzer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:17 AM
  Subject: Re: We are alive


  What do you mean you have asked for a copy of your download to be put on 
  their website?  What download?  Pam.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Curtis Delzer via Talk
  Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:10 AM
  To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: We are alive

  I have asked, many times for a copy of my download to be put on their
  web site, and no response, is my answer. I have 9.5.3, but not 9.5.4 CD.
  -
  Curtis Delzer, HS.
  WB6HEF
  San Bernardino, CA

  On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:01:04 +1300
  Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:

  > With respect - even if Window-eyes development and sales cease, continued 
  > use of Window-eyes will lock people into legacy computing.
  >
  >
  > I've just fought unsuccessfully with Window-eyes, Internet Explorer and my 
  > bank's web site and my non-technical view is that the bank makes changes 
  > to its coding which make Window-eyes unstable.  Microsoft have still 
  > locked us out of the Edge Browser, and even if it truly commits to 
  > unlocking it, Will Window-Eyes know about Edge's latest and greatest.
  >
  >I don't understand why people are buying cds when a personalised link 
  > to your serial number can be asked for at no cost.  Transfer the 
  > downloaded file to an external storage device.
  >
  >   A working install from scratch is obviously sensible, but its value will 
  > reduce in the longer term as other parts of our computing experience 
  > change.
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Based on comments from other users, I won't be hanging on the phone for 45 
  > plus minutes to talk to someone who doesn't know about Window-Eyes - I do 
  > not live in the United States, and Window-Eyes is no lonhger worth the 
  > telephone charges.
  >
  >And probably: to add to the contempt wiht which VFO treats its 
  > customers, i'll be told to talk to my local dealer.
  >
  >
  > If I were to ask who my local Window-Eyes dealer is, i'll be given the 
  > name of that dealer whom I know to be  Window-Eyes useless.
  >
  >
  > If CSUN and official announcements reveal "an exciting new screen reader" 
  > which fixes all the bugs we are putting up with, i'll part with cash.  I 
  > need a working screen reader, which is ready for when I have to update 
  > hardware and applications.  I do not want it to be JFW, but i'd respond 
  > positively to a new screen reader which has been designed and developed by 
  > all of this talent which VFO apparently now has.
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > Vaughan.
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > On 2/26/2017 1:20 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
  > > Yes, it is sad that at some point our beloved win eyes may cease to 
  > > exist.
  > >
  > >   >
  > > However, as long as we users still talk to each other, then the list is
  > > indeed alive and  will survive for some time yet.
  > >
  > > I was concerned that if I had a probmem with win eyes, I would not be 
  > > able
  > > to get support, so, I phoned fo and purchased the latest versioon of win
  > > eyes and if My version of win eyes gets sick and is unable to run, then 
  > > I
  > > can reinstall 9.5.4 and win eyes will live again.
  > >
  > > At present, I am running 9.5.4 on both a windows 7 and windows 10 
  > > computers.
  > >
  > >   >
  > > And as long as we have wonderful like Rod and others, we are not buried 
  > > yet.
  > >
  > > Long live win eyes
  > >
  > > Don
  > >
  > >   >
  > > ___
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  > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
  > >
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  > > 
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Re: We are alive

2017-03-23 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk 
What do you mean you have asked for a copy of your download to be put on 
their website?  What download?  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Curtis Delzer via Talk

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:10 AM
To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: We are alive

I have asked, many times for a copy of my download to be put on their
web site, and no response, is my answer. I have 9.5.3, but not 9.5.4 CD.
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
WB6HEF
San Bernardino, CA

On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:01:04 +1300
Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:

With respect - even if Window-eyes development and sales cease, continued 
use of Window-eyes will lock people into legacy computing.



I've just fought unsuccessfully with Window-eyes, Internet Explorer and my 
bank's web site and my non-technical view is that the bank makes changes 
to its coding which make Window-eyes unstable.  Microsoft have still 
locked us out of the Edge Browser, and even if it truly commits to 
unlocking it, Will Window-Eyes know about Edge's latest and greatest.


   I don't understand why people are buying cds when a personalised link 
to your serial number can be asked for at no cost.  Transfer the 
downloaded file to an external storage device.


  A working install from scratch is obviously sensible, but its value will 
reduce in the longer term as other parts of our computing experience 
change.





Based on comments from other users, I won't be hanging on the phone for 45 
plus minutes to talk to someone who doesn't know about Window-Eyes - I do 
not live in the United States, and Window-Eyes is no lonhger worth the 
telephone charges.


   And probably: to add to the contempt wiht which VFO treats its 
customers, i'll be told to talk to my local dealer.



If I were to ask who my local Window-Eyes dealer is, i'll be given the 
name of that dealer whom I know to be  Window-Eyes useless.



If CSUN and official announcements reveal "an exciting new screen reader" 
which fixes all the bugs we are putting up with, i'll part with cash.  I 
need a working screen reader, which is ready for when I have to update 
hardware and applications.  I do not want it to be JFW, but i'd respond 
positively to a new screen reader which has been designed and developed by 
all of this talent which VFO apparently now has.





Vaughan.




On 2/26/2017 1:20 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
> Yes, it is sad that at some point our beloved win eyes may cease to 
> exist.

>
>   >
> However, as long as we users still talk to each other, then the list is
> indeed alive and  will survive for some time yet.
>
> I was concerned that if I had a probmem with win eyes, I would not be 
> able

> to get support, so, I phoned fo and purchased the latest versioon of win
> eyes and if My version of win eyes gets sick and is unable to run, then 
> I

> can reinstall 9.5.4 and win eyes will live again.
>
> At present, I am running 9.5.4 on both a windows 7 and windows 10 
> computers.

>
>   >
> And as long as we have wonderful like Rod and others, we are not buried 
> yet.

>
> Long live win eyes
>
> Don
>
>   >
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> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.

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Re: How do I turn off NVDA

2017-03-23 Thread tt8 via Talk 

i also found if you restart nvda then the insert q will work


On 3/21/2017 12:36, David via Talk wrote:

Insert-Q. Probably you will hav to confirm the NVDA exit.


Alternatively, Ctrl-Escape, arrow down to NVDA, and kill it with Alt-E.



David

On 3/21/2017 5:33 PM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk wrote:

Window Eyes is my primary screen reader, but I have NVDA loaded as a backup.  I 
accidentally turned on NVDA, but cannot figure out how to turn it off so I can 
go back to Window Eyes.  Someone please remind me how to do this.  I'm not 
seeing NVDA in the system tray and cannot alt tab to it.





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Re: We are alive

2017-03-23 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk 
I have asked, many times for a copy of my download to be put on their
web site, and no response, is my answer. I have 9.5.3, but not 9.5.4 CD.
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
WB6HEF
San Bernardino, CA

On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:01:04 +1300
Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:

> With respect - even if Window-eyes development and sales cease, continued use 
> of Window-eyes will lock people into legacy computing.
> 
> 
> I've just fought unsuccessfully with Window-eyes, Internet Explorer and my 
> bank's web site and my non-technical view is that the bank makes changes to 
> its coding which make Window-eyes unstable.  Microsoft have still locked us 
> out of the Edge Browser, and even if it truly commits to unlocking it, Will 
> Window-Eyes know about Edge's latest and greatest.
> 
>I don't understand why people are buying cds when a personalised link to 
> your serial number can be asked for at no cost.  Transfer the downloaded file 
> to an external storage device.
> 
>   A working install from scratch is obviously sensible, but its value will 
> reduce in the longer term as other parts of our computing experience change.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Based on comments from other users, I won't be hanging on the phone for 45 
> plus minutes to talk to someone who doesn't know about Window-Eyes - I do not 
> live in the United States, and Window-Eyes is no lonhger worth the telephone 
> charges.
> 
>And probably: to add to the contempt wiht which VFO treats its customers, 
> i'll be told to talk to my local dealer.
> 
> 
> If I were to ask who my local Window-Eyes dealer is, i'll be given the name 
> of that dealer whom I know to be  Window-Eyes useless.
> 
> 
> If CSUN and official announcements reveal "an exciting new screen reader" 
> which fixes all the bugs we are putting up with, i'll part with cash.  I need 
> a working screen reader, which is ready for when I have to update hardware 
> and applications.  I do not want it to be JFW, but i'd respond positively to 
> a new screen reader which has been designed and developed by all of this 
> talent which VFO apparently now has.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Vaughan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/26/2017 1:20 AM, Don Smith via Talk wrote:
> > Yes, it is sad that at some point our beloved win eyes may cease to exist.
> >
> >   >
> > However, as long as we users still talk to each other, then the list is
> > indeed alive and  will survive for some time yet.
> >
> > I was concerned that if I had a probmem with win eyes, I would not be able
> > to get support, so, I phoned fo and purchased the latest versioon of win
> > eyes and if My version of win eyes gets sick and is unable to run, then I
> > can reinstall 9.5.4 and win eyes will live again.
> >
> > At present, I am running 9.5.4 on both a windows 7 and windows 10 computers.
> >
> >   >
> > And as long as we have wonderful like Rod and others, we are not buried yet.
> >
> > Long live win eyes
> >
> > Don
> >
> >   >
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