an NFL query
Hi guys! Just wondering, how to enable playback in Internet Explorer of NFL Audiopass? I know it works since it plays in Firefox but am not sure what setting or icon to change. I can _use Firefox but seem to favor IE and am not sure how, or what, to enable to make it go in IE as it does in Firefox so any help much appreciated. Timeas gone by, all I needed was Flash and it hummed like that. Anyway, in 2017, not sure how to enable playback in IE, similar to that in Firefox. Again, thanks and any help much appreciated. Jesse ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts
I stopped using Winamp a while ago, so I can't remember how easy this was to do. But perhaps you inadvertently shifted the balance one tick. Good luck, Tom On 10/14/2017 3:08 AM, peter Chin via Talk wrote: Hello Larry, No, I am not using surround sound. I'm using sterio. It's just the one side is slightly softer than the other so I don't get the central sound when the announcer is speaking. The original default sound was surround but I changed it to sterio. Thanks any way. Maybe someone else will have some suggestion. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 4:43 AM To: peter Chin via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts Peter, Sorry, but I didn't realize that you were referring to surround sound. I'm still using old fashioned stereo here, and like it that way . However, Winamp is also supposed to handle surround sound, so I would just keep inquiring, and maybe you will come up with an answer. This must be more than a little frustrating. Good luck, and once again, sorry I couldn't help. Larry On 10/10/2017 10:36 PM, peter Chin via Talk wrote: Hello Larry, Sorry for not having written to you as promised. I have been bogged down with other things and, have to admit it, just forgot. I tried to follow your instructions by pressing alt+shift+k but couldn't find how to adjust the volume of individual channels. Thanks any way. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:12 PM To: peter Chin via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts Peter, I saw your previous queries concerning Winamp, but saw it a day after it was originally posted, so thought someone might have already answered your questions. I will try to answer the questions I think I can, and leave the rest to those who might be more expert on the rest. When it comes to balancing channels, just press alt+shift+k while playing an audio file or stream and you will be in business. To read the title, press ctrl+shift+t. When it comes to the volume with MIDI files, the only thing I might suggest is to turn on your equalizer alt+g, then ctrl+tab to focus on it, and then use your preamp settings, and turn them all the way up. This will only work using a screen reader, particularly Window-Eyes if you have the Winamp scripts installed. Otherwise, the equalizer is almost impossible to work with by a blind user. Your Winamp keys are tab for turning down the volume of the preamp, and grave accent for increasing the volume. Turning the equalizer up is not the answer in every situation, because on some files, turning it full blast can cause a lot of unwanted distortion. Now, after having said all that, I'm not really sure if the equalizer will work with MIDI files, because I haven't played around with those things for many a year, but it can't hurt to give it a try. To save the settings permanently, while in the equalizer, press the letter s, and you will see an option to save presets. Give those settings that you have just made to a file with a name of your choosing, and if you wish to use those settings again, you can reload them at any time you like. The file will be placed in the list of the various settings that Winamp makes available. HTH, Larry On 9/25/2017 5:37 AM, peter Chin via Talk wrote: Hello all, I have a few questions about WinAmp which I hope the experts can help me with. 1. I notice that when playing an audio file in Winamp, one channel sounds just a little softer than the other. This is not the case when I play the same file in Windows Media player. Is there any way I can adjust the volume of each channel individually? 2. While playing an audio file in Winamp, is there a key stroke I can use to read the title of the file? 3. When I play a MIDI file in my collection, the volume drops to very low even though Winamp shows that I am playing the file at 100% volume. I can go to the System tray and crank up the volume, but as soon as the file is played, the volume drops when I play the file again. This behaviour doesn't happen when I play MIDI files on line. What can I do to make the volume setting permanent? 4. I have heard that WinAmp can be used to play flash player files on YouTube. Is this true and how is it done if it is so? My OS is Windows 8.1. I am using the "free" version of Window-Eyes 9.5.4 and I have both the WinAmp apps from Rod and Geoff Bishop. My WinAmp version is 5.666. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-w
Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts
Hello Net, The reason I want to try it is that I'm a bad typist and make quite a few typos. I don't want spellcheck to work automatically but only when I want to use it. I didn't know that it was so useless. Any way, how did you turn it off? That might give me some idea of how to turn it on to try it. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:57 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: net bat Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts why do you use it? every other word says it is mis spelled. even when it is not. i turned it off years ago. if you have wlm 2012 its in the applications ribbon. then options and mail then go to the control tab check spelling. -Original Message- From: peter Chin via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 3:25 AM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Using Window-Eyes 9.5.4, I find that I can access most of WLM accept for the fact that for some unknown reason, my spellcheck is disabled and I don't know how to enable it. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 9:48 PM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts IN my case, window eyes works a lot better than nvda in windows live mail. The tripletalk usb addon for nvda doesn't support indexing. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:06 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Steve Jacobson Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts If we are going to be fair about this discussion, VFO can't just throw the Window-Eyes code into JAWS. I also think it is reasonable to keep in mind the fact that they really wanted ZoomText so probably didn't give a lot of thought about Window-Eyes. It's likely nobody cried at VFO over the idea of Window-Eyes being discontinued, and I think Freedom Scientific's lawsuits were unjustified and clearly a means to crush competition. However, a case can easily be made that NVDA did quite a lot to cut into business that would have gone to Window-Eyes as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing NVDA, it wasn't their intent, but a good free screen reader cut into perspective Window-Eyes customers more than JAWS customers because Window-Eyes had worked hard to work with customers on a budget. The Office offer, the Lease to Own approach, and the slightly lower price was aimed at individuals rather than agencies. As nice as those programs were, it was easier for many of those people to go to NVDA which has become a respectable screen reader. It is really hard these days to make a claim that any screen reader is the best. It depends so much upon on how one uses it. I have moved to JAWS because there are programs that I use at work for which JAWS works well, as did Window-Eyes, but where NVDA did not work well. There are still things about Window-Eyes that I like better, but I am getting used to the different way JAWS handles certain things. Certainly, many people will find that NVDA does everything they need. I find JAWS more responsive in some instances, but that isn't going to be important to everybody. In short, certainly I will continue to miss some of the things that Window-Eyes did, but one can manage to make the change if one has to. What I hope to never forget are the people who were behind Window-Eyes, the developers and the customer support people. I will always believe that if finances and market pressures would have been different than what they were and if Window-Eyes had gotten a few breaks along the way, Window-Eyes would have emerged as the superior screen reader. We are in a changing environment. JAWS is going to have to change some if NVDA continues to gain strength and if Microsoft continues to make improvements to Narrator. It costs somebody a good deal of money to keep screen readers stable and up-to-date, whether it is SMA's donations, or corporate funding in the case of Microsoft. Those who say NVDA is free are not being honest with themselves. It means someone else is paying for their ability to have a free screen reader, even if there is some voluntary efforts involved. We should be thankful this is the case but we need to also be aware of it. I used Window-Eyes on the job for almost twenty years, and some have used JAWS longer. To work efficiently in an employment setting, one needs a very stable program, and changes cut into ones productivity. I am some concerned about what will be happening over the next five or ten years, because I don't think we have finished with changes to access technology. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:31 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List
Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts
Hello Larry, No, I am not using surround sound. I'm using sterio. It's just the one side is slightly softer than the other so I don't get the central sound when the announcer is speaking. The original default sound was surround but I changed it to sterio. Thanks any way. Maybe someone else will have some suggestion. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 4:43 AM To: peter Chin via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts Peter, Sorry, but I didn't realize that you were referring to surround sound. I'm still using old fashioned stereo here, and like it that way . However, Winamp is also supposed to handle surround sound, so I would just keep inquiring, and maybe you will come up with an answer. This must be more than a little frustrating. Good luck, and once again, sorry I couldn't help. Larry On 10/10/2017 10:36 PM, peter Chin via Talk wrote: Hello Larry, Sorry for not having written to you as promised. I have been bogged down with other things and, have to admit it, just forgot. I tried to follow your instructions by pressing alt+shift+k but couldn't find how to adjust the volume of individual channels. Thanks any way. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:12 PM To: peter Chin via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Need Help From WinAmp Experts Peter, I saw your previous queries concerning Winamp, but saw it a day after it was originally posted, so thought someone might have already answered your questions. I will try to answer the questions I think I can, and leave the rest to those who might be more expert on the rest. When it comes to balancing channels, just press alt+shift+k while playing an audio file or stream and you will be in business. To read the title, press ctrl+shift+t. When it comes to the volume with MIDI files, the only thing I might suggest is to turn on your equalizer alt+g, then ctrl+tab to focus on it, and then use your preamp settings, and turn them all the way up. This will only work using a screen reader, particularly Window-Eyes if you have the Winamp scripts installed. Otherwise, the equalizer is almost impossible to work with by a blind user. Your Winamp keys are tab for turning down the volume of the preamp, and grave accent for increasing the volume. Turning the equalizer up is not the answer in every situation, because on some files, turning it full blast can cause a lot of unwanted distortion. Now, after having said all that, I'm not really sure if the equalizer will work with MIDI files, because I haven't played around with those things for many a year, but it can't hurt to give it a try. To save the settings permanently, while in the equalizer, press the letter s, and you will see an option to save presets. Give those settings that you have just made to a file with a name of your choosing, and if you wish to use those settings again, you can reload them at any time you like. The file will be placed in the list of the various settings that Winamp makes available. HTH, Larry On 9/25/2017 5:37 AM, peter Chin via Talk wrote: Hello all, I have a few questions about WinAmp which I hope the experts can help me with. 1. I notice that when playing an audio file in Winamp, one channel sounds just a little softer than the other. This is not the case when I play the same file in Windows Media player. Is there any way I can adjust the volume of each channel individually? 2. While playing an audio file in Winamp, is there a key stroke I can use to read the title of the file? 3. When I play a MIDI file in my collection, the volume drops to very low even though Winamp shows that I am playing the file at 100% volume. I can go to the System tray and crank up the volume, but as soon as the file is played, the volume drops when I play the file again. This behaviour doesn't happen when I play MIDI files on line. What can I do to make the volume setting permanent? 4. I have heard that WinAmp can be used to play flash player files on YouTube. Is this true and how is it done if it is so? My OS is Windows 8.1. I am using the "free" version of Window-Eyes 9.5.4 and I have both the WinAmp apps from Rod and Geoff Bishop. My WinAmp version is 5.666. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely tho
RE: google chrome
Thank you, Don! That is just I, just the way I am LOL! Please email me anytime! Have a great one! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Don Smith via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 6:30 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Don Smith Subject: RE: google chrome So nice to talk to an expert and a nice guy besides Thanks so much Don ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jesusloves1966%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Tables and Word 7
Hello, I need to print a sheet of labels with different information in the boxes. I have put label contents for one block in the wrong space. How can I select the entire contents of the block to move it to another one. When I try to select all of the text and paste that, it changes every block to the text I just copied. Help! Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws
That's exactly what I thought you would have to do. The window eyes one would not be compatible. Pam. -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:28 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Pastor Gil Pries Subject: RE: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws You have to start a new one in JAWS. Press insert d and then control shift d. Then insert numbpad 5 and press the space bar. Then it works similar to exemption dictionary. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of geodom--- via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:05 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: geo...@optonline.net Subject: Re: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws But I don't think the window eyes exceptions dictionary and the jaws one work the same. I have a feeling you would have to start one in jaws. Pam. -Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:53 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws I believe it lives in your user settings of Jaws a good question for the Jaws List I gave you earlier. The subscribe address is below. If I can be anymore help to anyone else feel free to ask I am here to help. vjaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 8:59 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jeff Samco Subject: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws I just took the plunge and began learning Jaws this afternoon. Is there a way of transferring all my WE exception dictionary entries over to Jaws? I know the WE dictionary is merely a text file. Is this true for Jaws? If so, where would I find that file? Thanks, Jeff ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton line.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws
At 11:04 AM 10/14/2017, geodom--- via Talk wrote: >But I don't think the window eyes exceptions dictionary and the jaws one work the same. I have a feeling you would have to start one in jaws. Pam. Actually, the format of original word and new pronunciation is common to both Window-eyes and Jaws. However, if you were to copy entries from the Window-eyes exception dictionary too a .jdf file, all pronunciations would apply to all synthesizers, which I don't always want. In order to make entries apply to only one synthesizer, or even to specific voices of a speech engine, you either have to specify those parameters in the Jaws dictionary dialogue, or learn the appropriate syntax from the .jdf file. Only whole word entries are recognized, and Jaws does reasonably well with plurals, possessives and past participles of entries. Orlando Enrique Fiol Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory University of Pennsylvania Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer and Pedagogue ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws
You have to start a new one in JAWS. Press insert d and then control shift d. Then insert numbpad 5 and press the space bar. Then it works similar to exemption dictionary. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of geodom--- via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:05 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: geo...@optonline.net Subject: Re: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws But I don't think the window eyes exceptions dictionary and the jaws one work the same. I have a feeling you would have to start one in jaws. Pam. -Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:53 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws I believe it lives in your user settings of Jaws a good question for the Jaws List I gave you earlier. The subscribe address is below. If I can be anymore help to anyone else feel free to ask I am here to help. vjaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 8:59 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jeff Samco Subject: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws I just took the plunge and began learning Jaws this afternoon. Is there a way of transferring all my WE exception dictionary entries over to Jaws? I know the WE dictionary is merely a text file. Is this true for Jaws? If so, where would I find that file? Thanks, Jeff ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40opton line.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gilp%40embarqm ail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws
But I don't think the window eyes exceptions dictionary and the jaws one work the same. I have a feeling you would have to start one in jaws. Pam. -Original Message- From: Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 2:53 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws I believe it lives in your user settings of Jaws a good question for the Jaws List I gave you earlier. The subscribe address is below. If I can be anymore help to anyone else feel free to ask I am here to help. vjaws-users-list-j...@jaws-users.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Samco via Talk Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 8:59 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Jeff Samco Subject: WE and transferring exception dictionary to Jaws I just took the plunge and began learning Jaws this afternoon. Is there a way of transferring all my WE exception dictionary entries over to Jaws? I know the WE dictionary is merely a text file. Is this true for Jaws? If so, where would I find that file? Thanks, Jeff ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts
You have to go into wlm settings and turn on spell check. -Original Message- From: peter Chin Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 3:25 AM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts Using Window-Eyes 9.5.4, I find that I can access most of WLM accept for the fact that for some unknown reason, my spellcheck is disabled and I don't know how to enable it. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 9:48 PM To: steve.jacob...@visi.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Russ Kiehne Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts IN my case, window eyes works a lot better than nvda in windows live mail. The tripletalk usb addon for nvda doesn't support indexing. -Original Message- From: Steve Jacobson via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:06 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Steve Jacobson Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts If we are going to be fair about this discussion, VFO can't just throw the Window-Eyes code into JAWS. I also think it is reasonable to keep in mind the fact that they really wanted ZoomText so probably didn't give a lot of thought about Window-Eyes. It's likely nobody cried at VFO over the idea of Window-Eyes being discontinued, and I think Freedom Scientific's lawsuits were unjustified and clearly a means to crush competition. However, a case can easily be made that NVDA did quite a lot to cut into business that would have gone to Window-Eyes as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing NVDA, it wasn't their intent, but a good free screen reader cut into perspective Window-Eyes customers more than JAWS customers because Window-Eyes had worked hard to work with customers on a budget. The Office offer, the Lease to Own approach, and the slightly lower price was aimed at individuals rather than agencies. As nice as those programs were, it was easier for many of those people to go to NVDA which has become a respectable screen reader. It is really hard these days to make a claim that any screen reader is the best. It depends so much upon on how one uses it. I have moved to JAWS because there are programs that I use at work for which JAWS works well, as did Window-Eyes, but where NVDA did not work well. There are still things about Window-Eyes that I like better, but I am getting used to the different way JAWS handles certain things. Certainly, many people will find that NVDA does everything they need. I find JAWS more responsive in some instances, but that isn't going to be important to everybody. In short, certainly I will continue to miss some of the things that Window-Eyes did, but one can manage to make the change if one has to. What I hope to never forget are the people who were behind Window-Eyes, the developers and the customer support people. I will always believe that if finances and market pressures would have been different than what they were and if Window-Eyes had gotten a few breaks along the way, Window-Eyes would have emerged as the superior screen reader. We are in a changing environment. JAWS is going to have to change some if NVDA continues to gain strength and if Microsoft continues to make improvements to Narrator. It costs somebody a good deal of money to keep screen readers stable and up-to-date, whether it is SMA's donations, or corporate funding in the case of Microsoft. Those who say NVDA is free are not being honest with themselves. It means someone else is paying for their ability to have a free screen reader, even if there is some voluntary efforts involved. We should be thankful this is the case but we need to also be aware of it. I used Window-Eyes on the job for almost twenty years, and some have used JAWS longer. To work efficiently in an employment setting, one needs a very stable program, and changes cut into ones productivity. I am some concerned about what will be happening over the next five or ten years, because I don't think we have finished with changes to access technology. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 3:31 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts I think reserving Judgment until after the jaws 2018 cycle is complete and jaws2019 is out. You don't know what they have planned for the year. They may have had the first features planned for a while possible before the got window Eyes. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 6:41 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Charles Adkins Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts let me make one thing clear, I am not bitter. I am not sure about what merge is b
