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Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Reg,

I can add that firefox stops responding running we 9.0.
Nvda works ok though, So I guess this points to a new issue?

Kind regards,

Joe

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:37:41 +
Reg Webb via Talk  wrote:

Hi all
I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?

-- 
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
McLeod Stinnett via Talk  wrote:

> i found this on another list.
> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
> that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 2 
> versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
> one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
> into captia based sites.
> 
> 
> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
> 
> 
> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
> no spaces:
> 
> about:config
> 
> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
> 
> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
> looking for the below item:
> 
> xpinstall.signatures.required
> 
> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
> 
> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
> 
> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
> 
> 
> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
> Webvisum should work.
> 
> 
> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not allow 
> add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of some, your 
> risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, every time I 
> install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run Firefox for the 
> first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or disallow the 
> installation--regardless of whether the  
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Re: web vissum work around

2015-12-23 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Mark,

That doesn't work on this installation sadly.

Joe

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 18:02:16 +
Marc Solomon via Talk  wrote:

I would suggest turning Browse Mode off before trying to interact with the 
about:config page in Firefox.
Regards, 
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On December 22, 2015 12:40:02 PM Reg Webb via Talk  
wrote:

> Hi all
> I find that the system crashes when I activate about:config in Firefox
> with the latest W-E running but, if I close W-E, my sighted wife can
> make it work just fine.  I haven't tried NVDA yet.  Any thoughts?
>
> -- 
> Reg
> 
>
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 10:45:12 -0600
> McLeod Stinnett via Talk  wrote:
>
>> i found this on another list.
>> I posted this to another list or actually several. It is apparently only a 
>> temporary fix--since in Firefox 44, they will remove the configuration item 
>> that will disable this strict signing requirement. I know I am going to run 
>> 2 versions of Firefox: the current one which allows the hack and the newest 
>> one. If I need the webvisum plug-in, I will use that older one for signing 
>> into captia based sites.
>> 
>> 
>> There is a workaround but it _may_ make you less secure.
>> 
>> 
>> 1. Open Firefox 43 and in the address bar, type the below line as seen with 
>> no spaces:
>> 
>> about:config
>> 
>> 2. You will get a Firefox warning saying: 'This may void your warranty.' 
>> Click on the button that sardonically says: 'I'll be careful, I promise.'
>> 
>> 3. tab once to the list of 700 or so items and press the letter X. You are 
>> looking for the below item:
>> 
>> xpinstall.signatures.required
>> 
>> 4. When this item is highlighted, press the context key or right click and 
>> choose toggel or press T (same thing.)
>> 
>> 5. The highlighted value should change to false as in:
>> 
>> xpinstall.signatures.required;false
>> 
>> 
>> Then press control + W to close the window and when you run Firefox again, 
>> Webvisum should work.
>> 
>> 
>> Again, this may make you less secure, but if you are careful and do not 
>> allow add ons to be installed automatically, at least in the opinion of 
>> some, your risk is minimal. For versions going way back to Firefox 3 or 4, 
>> every time I install something that inserts a browser add on, when I run 
>> Firefox for the first time afterward, Firefox always prompts me to allow or 
>> disallow the installation--regardless of whether the 
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Re: Webvisum

2015-12-22 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hell's teeth, that's bad.


Joe
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:31:02 +
Reg Webb via Talk  wrote:

Out of interest, has anyone else found that Mozilla disables Webvisum in
its latest version?
I've contacted Webvisum asking if they can fix the problem, but nothing
back yet.

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Re: Getting to the DOS PROMPT

2015-12-22 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Mathew,

In Windows 10, you can use the search box inside the Start menu. Type cmd there 
and press CTRL + SHIFT + ENTER to launch the command prompt elevated. This also 
works on the Start screen.

HTH
Joe
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Re: Loss of letters when typing

2015-12-21 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi, 
I noted this behaviour in 9.2.
So I went back to 9.0
It did seem to be synthesiser specific, i.e. the problem exhibited itself on a
serial synth, but not on eloquence driving an internal sound device.

So who knows?

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 04:59:46 +
Rod Hutton via Talk  wrote:

Hi Mike,

Press Insert-2, not the two on the NumPad, but the other one, and press it
repeatedly until you hear Keyboard voice on with characters.
Now, assuming your Scope for this setting is set to global in the current
set file, this will be the default global setting, but then you must open
the Window-Eyes control panel and press Control-S to save it globally.

Hth,

Rod

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Downloaded 9.3 and don't hear my keyboard letters.  How do I get the letter
sounds back?



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Re: Webinar and tutorial topics - feedback requested

2015-12-21 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Samuel,

I've done a tesco tutorial, but not the others as yet.  Ebay and amazon. 
Trouble is, that these take some time to create, and often the sites have
changed between inseption, then final product.

Cheers,

Joe

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:28:49 +
Samuel Wilkins via Talk  wrote:

I think a good topic would be how to use online shopping websites. There are 
many people who get flummoxed when trying to use online shops, such as amazon 
ebay, and supermarket websites, so it would be good to cover those.

On 21/12/2015 15:53, Crabb, Nolan via Talk wrote:
> Obviously, I'm a month behind in my email here, but if the call for 
> prospective webinar topics remains viable, I'd love to see something 
> regarding the interaction of Window-Eyes and The Windows 10 equivalent of 
> Siri. What can she do? Are there areas wherein Window-Eyes may conflict with 
> her ability to do specific things? Etc.
>
> Nolan
>
>
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we 9.3 upgrade

2015-12-19 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi all,

By now, we all know that problems experienced by certain systems, will not
necessarily be experienced by other identical systems. So this might be just my
misfortune but may effect other becky email client users. .  The latest update
to we, has resulted in degraded and poor performance with The becky email
client. List views are sluggish to navigate, read to end doesn't do anything at
all, and locations reached from the tab key are not reliably anounced.

Just to iliminate any inconsistncies, I have removed We altogether, and
re-installed and run the update. What I can say, is that I can reliably
replicate the unreliabilities that I experienced after upgrading, before
removing and re-installing the software.  This at least, is consistent.

I have reverted back to 9.2 at least this is as stable as it gets with the apps
I regularly run.

Hope that a quick patch will resolve these issues.

With kind regards,

Joe

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:00:17 +
Samuel Wilkins via Talk  wrote:

Hello Reg,
You will have to find the link that says jump media player, turn off Brows 
Mode, tab and you will come to the media help link.  Tab again and you will not 
hear anything, but that is the play button.  Press the space bar and it will 
start playing.  If you tab once more, you will find a mute button, a second 
time will come to a volume slider, and a third time will take you to a seek 
slider, but Window-Eyes will not say anything.  Hope this helps.

On 18/12/2015 05:21, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:
> Hi all
>
> This is a problem that's been around for a while, and I wonder if anyone
> has a solution.
> Using Windows7 and, now the latest W-E, I've just been trying to listen
> to this link in Explorer and Firefox.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06rwpnz
>
>
> In Explorer, I see no "play" or "listen" button at all, but it will play
> the short sound clips.
> In firefox, I see no main listen button, but I do see a "listen in
> pop-out player" link, which causes the Adobe Flash plug in to crash.
> Incidentally, this also happens with NVDA.
> If I close down the screen reader and reload the page, it will play, but
> reopening W-E causes the crash again and all is silence.
> Any thoughts?

-- Regards,

Samuel Wilkins

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Re: Still can't get WE to read selected text in Notepad

2015-12-12 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Reg,

Might you try wordpad as an alternative?

Joe
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 06:46:26 -0600
Larry Higgins via Talk  wrote:

Hello Listers,

I asked about this issue a couple of months ago, and never got a satisfactory 
answer.

For some reason, on my system, We will not read text as it is selected via the 
shift+arrow method. The Notepad set is loading properly, or so it would seem, 
and yet for some reason, this problem persists.

Is there any setting I might check or change to permanently solve this problem?

thanks,

Larry
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Re: W-e Not reliably selecting my speech sound device

2015-12-04 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

I think you are exactly right.
I've noticed similar windows behaviour on a USB audio device.

Cheers for now,

JP

On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 06:57:46 +
Reg Webb via Talk  wrote:

Hi and thanks.

My problem is that I don't understand why it selects the right device
sometimes on startup, but not at others, when it appears to make an
arbitrary selection.  I'm guessing there's sometimes a discrepancy
between when USB becomes available, and when W-E selects the ports
available, but maybe not.
-- 
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 22:41:58 -0800
"net bat"  wrote:

> in your w e synthisizer settings make sure that it is not set to use a backup 
> synthisizer.
> sometimes you have to unplug and re insert the usb cable so windows can 
> properly detect the usb port.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Reg Webb via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:23 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: W-e Not reliably selecting my speech sound device
> 
> Hi all
> 
> While on the subject of sound device selection, I have Vocalise Samantha
> as my default software speech, with a USB sound device as its chosen
> sound card.  On startup, sometimes the selected device comes up properly,
> and sometimes it doesn't.  When it doesn't, W-E selects a device of its
> choice instead.  Fortunately, I have trusty Apollo in the voice rotor,
> so I can correct this, save the settings, and wait to see what happens
> next time I start my computer.
> does anyone know why W-E is randomly making sound card selections other
> than mine?
> -- Reg
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Re: icons speaking in Eudora

2015-11-08 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

You need to unload window-eyes, load eudora, re-load window-eyes.

Joe
On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 09:22:27 -0800
Bud Schwab via Talk wrote:

Hi all,
It's still not clear to me, is there anybody who is using windows 10 an Eudora
and are able to make the icons speak like sent, forwarded, unread and so on.
With windows 7 I was able to turn off wineyes and then turn it back on and they
would speak for that session. With windows 10 I can't do that. So if anybody
has been able to make them speak, even if it's just for the current session, I
would like to hear how you do it.
Thanks.

Bud Schwab
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El Segundo, California
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Re: Virtual View User's Guide

2015-11-06 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Thanks Aaron.

One question if I may, will virtual view work with graphic capchas?

Great job, and thanks for taking the trouble.

Joe Paton


On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:14:16 +
Aaron Smith via Talk  wrote:

Greetings,

The following user's guide will ship with the next version of Virtual View, but 
I wanted to provide it for you here as many of you have been asking for more 
information about what Virtual View is, and how to use it.

Thanks,

Aaron



Virtual View

1 Overview
Virtual View is an app designed to provide a textual representation of a 
program window, dialog box, message box or file using various text retrieval 
methods. The resulting text can be reviewed in the Virtual View window without 
disturbing the contents of the screen or file. In some cases, the buttons, 
links and other controls found in the original window that was virtualized can 
be acted on directly from the Virtual View window using simple keyboard 
commands.
This app will come in handy in a variety of situations including:

* Reading image based PDF files

* Reading text presented as an image

* Selecting and copying static text found in dialogs and program windows

* Interacting with programs that lack proper keyboard accessibility

* Needing quick access to the text found in a PowerPoint presentation

2 Getting Started
The default hotkey, Control-Alt-V, will open the source selection dialog. You 
may also choose to access Virtual View from the Apps menu in the Window-Eyes 
Control Panel. Virtual View may also be activated by pressing Alt-Print Screen. 
Alt-Print Screen is an operating system hotkey that takes a snapshot of the 
active window. You have the option of letting Virtual View virtualize this 
image when the hotkey is pressed.
3 Selecting a Source
Pressing the Virtual View hotkey, or choosing Virtual View from the apps menu, 
will cause the "Select Window or File to Virtualize" dialog to be displayed. 
You can use this dialog to tell Virtual View what you want to virtualize. You 
may choose from one of three sources:

1.   Active Window (A) - Selecting this radio button will cause the current 
application window to be used as the source.

2.   Focused Window (F) - Selecting this radio button will cause the 
current control in the active application to be used as the source.

3.   File (I) - Selecting this radio button will cause Virtual View to 
prompt for a file using a standard Windows File Open dialog.

3.1   Supported File Types
Virtual View has the ability to virtualize a large number of file types. 
Exactly which files can be virtualized depends on the number of available file 
"filters" installed in your operating system. Filters are programmatic 
interfaces for accessing contents of files. Several filters come pre-installed 
with your operating system. The most common file types include:

* Text

* XML

* HTML

* Zip
Installing Microsoft Office provides you with additional filters allowing 
Virtual View to virtualize many Office document formats, including:

* Docx

* Xlsx

* Pptx

4 Choosing a Method
After you've selected a source, whether it be a window or a file, you can then 
choose how you want Virtual View to obtain the text from the source. The 
methods available will differ depending on which source type is selected.

1.   Clips (C) - The clips method will use the OSM (Off-Screen Model) to 
retrieve text from a window.

2.   UIA (A) - This UIA method will use the UI Automation interface to 
retrieve text from a window.

3.   OCR (O) - This method uses OCR (optical character recognition) to 
retrieve text from either a window or a file.

4.   Version (V) - This method provides version information for a window or 
file.
Which method you choose depends on a number of factors, and there are 
advantages of each.
Clips is the most common method for accessing the text of a window. They 
provide a good way for accessing precise locations of text for easy 
manipulation with Virtual View's quick keys (discussed below).
The advantage of using UIA is evident when obtaining text from windows that do 
not show up in the OSM. WPF applications, and other Direct2D programs, are good 
examples of windows that have rich UIA information while at the same time are 
completely void of clips. The UIA method obtains text directly from the window 
rather than from the OSM, often resulting in higher text accuracy.
OCR is a preferred choice when working with graphical interfaces, or files 
containing images. While you don't have the benefit of knowing exactly where 
the text is presented on the screen, you do have access to otherwise completely 
inaccessible text.
5 The Virtual View Window
After Virtual View has obtained the text from the selected source, using the 
chosen method, it will display the resulting text in a read only edit box. The 
Virtual View

Re: laptops and window-eyes

2015-11-02 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi,

open windows explorer.

tgo to tools
arrow down to folder options.

press enter.

shift tab to general, then arrow right to view.
tab to advanced settings, files and folders.

press the end key to go to the bottom of the list.

Select the typed item in the view, should be selected.  The option that is 
selected in your case is automatically type in to the search box.

Sorry this is sketchy.


On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 13:05:03 -0800
Curtis Delzer via Talk  wrote:

speaking of laptops and window-eyes, guys, ladies, :)
I have an issue where instead of first letter navigation in windows 7 and 
windows explorer, the immediate thing that happens is that I go to the "search" 
pane when I tap any letter while navigating the list of files displayed.
How can I change it to just "going" to the first occurrence of the first-letter 
in the list as it does on all my other computers.

At 12:40 PM 11/2/2015, you wrote:
>I know, the Lenovo is not the best one for us, I use to work with >some of the 
>clients who had them, and had to advise the >company/supplier to change it. 
>was a nightmare for some people.
>- Original Message - From: "Rick Jarvis via Talk" 
>>
>To: "Pamela Dominguez" ; "Window-Eyes >Discussion List" 
>
>Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:30 PM
>Subject: Re: laptops and window-eyes
>
>
>>Is there any way to disable it?
>>
>>On 11/2/2015 12:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>>>I just bought a Lenovo Thinkpad with a numberpad.  It's thinner and
>>>somewhat lighter than my Dell that doesn't have one.  But the keys are
>>>all squished together, so you have to watch out when you use it.  The
>>>other thing that is annoying is that it has that awful finger print
>>>thing that's in the middle of everything and things happen when you
>>>accidentally touch it.  Pam.
>>>
>>>-Original Message- From: Chip Orange via Talk
>>>Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 12:04 PM
>>>To: don bishop ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>>Subject: RE: laptops and window-eyes
>>>
>>>Hi Don,
>>>
>>>While Marilyn's point is a nice one, and I have such a Dell laptop at
>>>home with a numpad, it weighs about 5 pounds.  If you want one which
>>>weighs around 2 pounds which you can easily carry around with you, I
>>>don't believe it will be possible to get one with a numpad on the keypad.
>>>
>>>Marilyn's suggestion of carrying around an external numpad is one way of
>>>dealing with this, but as she says, an awkward one.  It's not the only
>>>one however; Window-Eyes does offer a laptop keyboard layout
>>>specifically for those keyboards which don't have numpads.  They move
>>>all the functions which would be handled by a numpad on to other keys.
>>>
>>>Alternatively, instead of using the WE laptop layout, almost all laptops
>>>have a special key which make a group of keys centered around the j, k,
>>>and l keys act like they are a numpad when you hold down this special
>>>key.  This is how I used WE with my previous Dell laptop which was
>>>smaller, and which did not have a numpad on its keyboard.  I found this
>>>very easy to adapt to (actually easier than switching to the laptop
>>>layout), although you may need some sighted help (or support help from
>>>the manufacturer) initially to find the special key, and to know what
>>>keystrokes it generates when used with other keyboard keys.
>>>
>>>So, it all depends on what your needs are, and which keyboard you wish
>>>to purchase, and how you wish to adapt to not having a numpad if you
>>>want the smaller laptops; but don't think you could ever adjust to some
>>>different layout, it's much easier than you'd believe.
>>>
>>>Hth,
>>>
>>>Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chip Orange
>>>Florida Public Service Commission
>>>Computer Systems Analyst
>>>850-413-6314
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Talk
>>>[mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>>>Behalf Of don bishop via Talk
>>>Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:21 PM
>>>To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>>>Subject: laptops and window-eyes
>>>
>>>Any suggestions for a laptop which works well with window-eyes?
>>>Thanks,
>>>Don
>>>
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Re: windows 10 and eudora

2015-10-12 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Budd,

This is a long shot, but do you have to ensure that eudora is set as your
default e-mail client?

If the settings are identical to those used on windows 7, then I am stumped.

Best regards
Joe
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:59:06 -0700
bud schwab via Talk wrote:

Hi again Am still trying to get Eudora working on my new windows 10 pc that I
got a few weeks ago. I get the message now that it couldn't connect to the
provider and gives the number 10.061. I wonder if that's an error message of
some kind. This used to work on my windows 7 machine with the same settings.
I think some of you have been successful in installing Eudora on windows 10. Do
you recall any changes you had to make to get it working? Thanks for any info
yu might have. I've spent hours on this thing and it's driving me nuts. I'm
using Thunderbird in the meanhtime but have a lot of trouble with it and would
like to get back to Eudora.
Thanks.
Bud Schwab
W6 Z Y P
ElSegundo, California

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Re: eudora setup info

2015-10-09 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Bud,

where are you on this setup now?

Joe

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 07:57:47 -0700
bud schwab via Talk  wrote:

Hi Guys,
I'm trying to setup Eudora and when I try to connect it just times out without 
ever connecting, so I'm sure there are some settings that I need to take care 
of.  Does anybody know where I might find some instruftions on setting up 
Eudora? Using windows 10 and of course windoweyes 9.2. Thanks for any lead.
-- Bud Schwab
W6 Z Y P
ElSegundo, California

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Re: windows 10 and Eudora

2015-10-04 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Bud,

I don't have Eudora on a windows 10 machine, I can install it in the morning,
you may be asleep at this time uk.

As an alternative, I can highly recommend becky internet mail.
But I will get started tomorrow, and let yu know what I find.

Joe

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 09:02:32 -0700
bud schwab via Talk wrote:

Hi Guys,

I got a new computer a couple months ago and it had windows 10 on it. I was
unable to install Eudora on it and was told that it couldn't be done, so I
started to use Thunderbird. I find it to be awkward and unstable and
difficult. Maybe it's just me, but I really liked Eudora and hear that there
are still people using Eudora with windows 10. If any of you out there are
using that combination I'd like to hear from you to see how you do it. Maybe it
works with jaws and not windoweyes. I don't seem to belong to the eudora list
anymore so can't ask any of them.
Thanks for any lead. I'd love to get back with Eudora.
-- Bud Schwab
W6 Z Y P
ElSegundo, California

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window-eyes running in demonstration mode

2015-09-30 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Morning all,

I want to successfully install WE 9.0.0 from a bona fide cd, on to a windows xp
SP3 machine for a client.
When complete, WE reports that it is in demo mode and has 5 minutes to run.
I've removed the software, and re-installed. Same problem.

Trying alternative synthesisers, Dec Talk Access 32, ETI eloquence, had no
effect, and I doubted that it would.

So I installed WE 7.5.4 which runs ok.

What on earth is going on.
In all the years that I have worked with WE, I have never experienced this.

I have WE 9.0 on an office machine running xp, without problems. although it 
was upgraded rather than being installed afresh.

I have seen comments on the list on WE running in demo mode, but as is the case,
paid no heed to them because it didn't effect me then, now it does.

Thanks,

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Re: Twitter and Window Eyes

2015-09-26 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Yes there is a purchas price.

.

On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 00:57:00 -0400
Paulette Vickery via Talk  wrote:

Is there a fee for using the Cube?

Paulette

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On Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:38 AM
To: Karyn Campbell; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Twitter and Window Eyes

Paulette
There is in fact a working version of The Qube.  I use it, and it's fine.
I'll check the exact version number, and send it to you if you like.

-- 
Reg

On Fri, 25 Sep 2015 20:43:05 -0500
Karyn Campbell via Talk  wrote:

> Paulette,
> 
> If you are going to use twitter on a windows machine, you wil need to use
an
> app call Chicken Nugget.  The Qube doesn't work anymore; or at least my
> husband could not get it to work on my machine after it crashed.  We had
no
> choice but to go to Chicken Nugget.
> 
> Hope this helps and good luck.
> 
> Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, karyn1...@gmail.com
> Using WE 9.1  on HP Pavilion laptop running Windows 8.1 home premium
64-bit
> with Office 2013 and IE 11 as well as Acer netbook running Windows 7  home
> premium 64-bit with Office 2007 and IE 11 and Microsoft Windows Defender
> onAcer netbook as well as Macaffee Live Safe on HP Pavilion.
> 
> Support the Illinois Council of the Blind at our GoFundMe page:
> www.gofundme.com/icb2015.
> 
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Re: Microsoft Forms And WindowEyes Accessibility Settings

2015-09-24 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hello rick,
Which specific programs do you need access with window-eyes?
alternatively where are you experiencing difficulty with window-eyes and what
programs?
I can see from your comprehensive post the details surrounding ensuring that
controls are labelled and laid out in an accessible order so to speak.
so what specifically can you not access?

Thanks,

On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:06:48 -0400
Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:

Hi: I have asked several times on this list about settings, properties, for
setting up my programs to work with WindowEyes.
I have never heard from AI Squared about the settings they would want to see
so a Windows Form would work best with their software.
Here is an example of a question that was answered on the blind programming
list about setting up a dialog for accessibility with screen readers that
monitor the accessibility features Microsoft has put in place for all of
their controls - I find it hard to believe WindowEyes doesn't monitor for
accessibility - what are they using if not what Microsoft has in place for
accessibility of their forms and controls?
I have asked about the accessibility settings for several controls and never
gotten a response.
Here is what on developer said about a dialog, I have no question about the
dialog box but other more complex controls like the Tabbed Document and
other controls but it will show you that Microsoft indeed has settings
screen readers can use if setup properly but it is up to the screen reader
company to develop against them.
This just popped up so I thought I would put it up here so you can see an
example of what I was talking about in the past if you read those messages
and are interested in WindowEyes Accessibility with Microsoft Windows
Projects and Programs:
I am especially interested in the Accessible Role - the others are just fluf
and not overly related to WindowEyes, although they may be.
Hi Akash!

You can design a dialog box such as a standard Windows form by setting the
following properties:
Windows location you need to set to Center Screen.
ControlBox, you need to set to False.
You can leave minimize and maximize box to true, but for a standard dialog
it needs to be False, because in a standard dialog boxes, you have not
possibility to minimize or maximize a dialog box.
In the Accessibility name, you need to type your form caption, the
AccessibleName, and Text property of a form should have the same value.
The Accessibility rol property should be set to Dialog, and each control on
the dialog box should have the AccessibilityRol property set to the
corresponding control for example:
TextBox=Text
Label=StaticText
Button=PushButton
You can set the AccessibilityRol property using the following:
1. Place cursor on a control you want to change there properties.
2. Press the F4 key to bring up the properties window.
3. Use the up and down arrow keys until you find the AccessibilityRol
property.
4. Press the Tab key until you hear Browse..., and hit the Space bar.
5. Use the Up and Down arrow keys until you find the corresponding control
type which match the control type you placed on the form and hit the Enter
key.
That's it!
Enjoy!

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Re: C drive in windows 10

2015-09-22 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hello,

another approach, as there is always more than one way to skin the cat, is to
press windows key and R, type in c colom backslash.
There you are in your root of c drive.

Then go to users, then your username, it might be pastor gill or whatever, then
favourites.
If I've read the entire thread, this should help.

Joe



On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:13:10 -0700
Pastor Gil Pries via Talk  wrote:

Hi,

>From your desk top hit tab until you hear windows edge.
Then arrow right to File explorer.
Open file explorer and find my computer and open it.
If you arrow down, you should find your C drive.

Pastor Gil

-Original Message- From: bud schwab via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:35 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: C drive in windows 10

Hi Guys,

I hate to be so dumb, but where is the C drive in windows 10? Is that
what it boots to, if it is there's very little on it. I'm supposed to be
finding  a favorites folder there. I know windows key d takes you to the
desktop.  I guess  I have a lot to learn about windows 10.
Thanks.
-- Bud Schwab
W6ZYP
El Segundo, California
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Re: window-eyes with windows 10

2015-09-06 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi again,

I forgot to mention tht this is a new install of windows 10, not an upgrade
from windows 7.

Thanks.

JP
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 20:47:59 +0100
Joe Paton via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Evening all,
I have windows 9.0 on cd media. Want to install window-eyes 9.2.x but have it
as an upgrade. What is the procedure to have windows 10 accept we 9.0 so that
an upgrade can be run? or how is an upgrade run if there is nothing on the
machine to upgrade?
am I missing something fundamental here? I guess I am.

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Re: A tip for those with Intel cards just in case you screw up rotation anyways.

2015-09-06 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Thanks Keith.

also in your graphics propperties, under hotkeys, you should disable these.

It's usually alt-control-arrow keys that flip the display. For us screen
reader users, it doesn't matter much, we are often made aware of this when
those with
sight need to use our machines.

Joe

On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 01:57:55 -0700
Keith Hinton via Talk wrote:

Hi folks,
I wanted to pass along a tip for those of you with computers that have
an Intel graphics card such as my machines.
I thought this might help some of you out.
I was using a different screen reader at the time when this happened
that does not hook the keyboard at the same level Window-Eyes does,
and messed up my rotation. I had no sighted help around, but I knew
that somehow I'd messed up the rotation.
Not knowing what to do, I checked in my Intel graphics notification
icon, and found an option to adjust rotations.
There was all kinds of things: rotating to 90 degrees, rotating to
100, and some others I didn't understand but one option I checked
which has stayed that way is "rotate to normal"
You may be able to find that when you bring up the context menu for
your specific Intel video card just in case you do somehow mess up
rotation on accident.
I don't know how many Window-Eyes users would care about rotation, or
even need to care about this particular tip, but I thought that
nevertheless, this tip might be of help to some of you on this list in
the future.
I hope that this has been of value to at least somebody.
If you have gotten value out of this tip, feel free to let me know.

Regards,
keith
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window-eyes with windows 10

2015-09-06 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Evening all,
I have windows 9.0 on cd media.  Want to install window-eyes 9.2.x but have it
as an upgrade.  What is the procedure to have windows 10 accept we 9.0 so that
an upgrade can be run? or how is an upgrade run if there is nothing on the
machine to upgrade?
am I missing something fundamental here? I guess I am.

With thanks,

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Re: Windows 10, Window-eyes for Office, and Office 365 problems.

2015-09-05 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi,
Just to add, that we have heard from some upgraders, that the .pst file used by
Microsoft outlook, becomes corrupt as well.  So be sure you take a backup before
upgrading to windows 10.


Thanks.

Joe
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 12:25:03 +
Chris Grabowski via Talk  wrote:

Assuming this was an upgrade to windows 10 you may need to repair the 
installation of Office 365 as sometimes it gets placed in a state where it 
isn't sure it is activated or not.
This happens on some upgrades.
Chris


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Subject: RE: Windows 10, Window-eyes for Office, and Office 365 problems.

Hello Folks:

For some reason, my Window-eyes for Office program is running in demonstration 
mode on my Windows 10 computer; even though I have an activated copy of Office 
365.

Is there a solution?

Thanks all over the place gang.

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Re: becky and thunderbird

2015-09-05 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hello Butch,

Thunderbird will run on windows 10.  I've no reason to suspect that becky won't
run, I'll know more next week.
Both programs bear no resemblence to windows live mail.
Joe


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Hello, are the email programs, becky and thunderbird, live mail programs like 
windows live mail? If so, can someone recommend a speech friendly non live 
program? Thanks.

Butch

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Re: antivirus web based software

2015-08-27 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

nod32 from eset.

Joe
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:20:08 -0400
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mi'm using windows 7 Hi. Webroot isbeing removed from my system. What antivirus 
or web based antivirus software works with Window-Eyes m

Rebecca and Zeb
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window-eyes associations

2015-08-27 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Morning all,

I've recently re-classed a list view in a file management program, search
everything.

I did this because, as is so damn typical, what used to work propperly, no
longer works propperly.  
Having re-classed the view, now we reads sweet nothing.
Further, we won't return the class to the original class.  There is no
association with the program everything. 

What files do I need to delete in we, so that I can start again, to end up,
where I was before the damn thing got broken?  All these developments mean that
it seems to me, we walk 100 I T miles, to be exactly back where we started,
having achieved nothing at all, apart from a huge waste of time and possibly
money.

Thanks guys.

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app updates

2015-08-23 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Morning all,

When automatic app updates are available, app udates runs, I hear the sound
advising that app updates are available, but I can't find the dialogue to
accept the updates.  It isn't on the taskbar, sys tray or anywhere.  This has
worked for years, but now has stopped.

windows 7 64 bit, we 9.2.

any ideas?

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Re: Slow-down program

2015-08-19 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Amazing slowdowner.
Roni software.

Not expensive, 25 dollars or something like that.

Sure there are others, but the quality of audio, when the track is slowed, is
the best I have heard.

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Mike Rogers via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

I'm looking for a free or low cost slow down music ap that works with Window 
Eyes.  Any suggestions are appreciated.

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Re: slower in becky mail

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hello,

Here's a link.

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm

thirty day free trial, then you can pay for the program.

It's worth every cent.

Joe

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:07:02 -0400
Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

I keep hearing about Becky Mail.  Can someone tell me more about this? Where do 
I download it, and is it free?

Chris.

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- Original Message - From: Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk 
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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:28 PM
Subject: slower in becky mail


 Hi,

 With WE9.2 I have seen slowness in becky mail. This is in win10 32bit and  
 win7 32bit.

 When the computer starts, I start Becky mail and go to the list of  messages.
 There is a small delay when pressing arrow down to go to the next message.
 Restarting Becky mail does not matter.

 When restarting WE by pressing ctrl-alt-w, the small delay is away and  
 arrowing in the listview is fast as allways.

 Can anyone reproduce this?

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Re: unresponsive plugin

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

This has plagued me for ages.
I'll watch this thread.
Joe



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Hey guys,

I am having a serious problem, and am wondering if some of you guys have a 
solution.  It's very annoying.  I'm getting an error in firefox that keeps 
saying unresponsive plugin, shockwave may be busy and all that. How do i fix 
this problem.  Is there any sort of way to give shockwave a kick to work?  This 
is happening on a ton of web sights, and is very annoying.
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Re: file find in windows seven

2015-08-12 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Butch,

try search everything. It's a great utility for finding files.

I've just tried to find, using windows find facility, a file I was reading
earlier. It told me zero results. How good is that? I guess that windows
find may need some tweeking to interrogate the root of the drive where the file
I
know is resting. Search everything on the other hand, needed no tweeking, and
found the file. The only kaviat, is that the results list view isn't always read
by window-eyes, using the regular cursor keys, the mouse pointer is required.

Try it. you won't be disappointed.

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 11:48:42 -0700
Butch Bussen via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

I am wondering if I'm missing something simple. I can't seem to read the list
of files when looking for files in windows seven as I could in xp. Any
suggestions?
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.

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Re: keys on new computer

2015-08-09 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Pam.

this is my understanding.  the function keys on a laptop, will usually perform
special functions, pertaining to the laptop.  For example, they may brighten 
the display, reduce and increase the volume of audio, Mut the speech, put the
computer to sleep et cetera.

So when they are setup, by default, for example, f5 may mute the speech.

So to have f5 do what windows or the software want it to do, you press the f n
key, then f5. Now you have switched the function of the function keys, to
perform there desired task. Not a task set by the laptop manufacturer.

The other way, is to have the function keys, perform there regular functions,
but you make them perform laptop functions, by pressing the f n key with a
functionkey.
so F N f6 will do what the laptop manufacturer wants, for example dim the
display.  F6 pressed on its own, if say internet explorer is running, will take
you to the address bar. does this make sense to you?

To summarise, what the function keys are  set to do by default, is switched with
the fn key. If by default, f4 changes the display brightness, then alt fn key
and f4 will close your program.  If f4 is set for regular windows use, then F N
key and f4 will change the brightness.
So what you want the sales person to do, is turn the function keys off, for
laptop use, and then by default they will do what you want.

This can often be done in the mobile settings, or in the bios.  You don't need
to touch the registry at all.


Hope this helps.

Joe










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I wasnt sure how to word the subjectline.  I have asked this question before 
and not gotten an answer, so I hope somebody can help me.  People talk about 
getting computers and having the function keys do different things.  One person 
said the function keys act right away, so that when you go to use our commands 
with them, they do other things.  I think it was said that you have to either 
use a function key with the function keys on a laptop, or you have to go into 
the registry or the bios and change it so that the keys do what we want.  
Rather than have to do that, what question should I ask when buying the laptop 
so that I get one with function keys that act properly?  I need to know, since 
I am going shopping for a replacement.  Thanks.  Pam.
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Re: Firefox accessibility with W-E

2015-08-08 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

I would have asked the same questions.

A constructive response about accessibility requirements and implementations
would be just grand.
Joe

would do both companies credit, and the users better fuller, complete access.

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Reg Webb via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Once upon a time, GW Micro used to proudly proclaim the co-operative
nature of its relationship with the Mozila foundation.
What happened to that? Did someone leave one of the two companies? Did
the developers of Firefox suddenly lose interest in accessibility as an
issue worth their attention?
Are there any lines of communication between Ai Squared and Mozilla, or
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Re: Question about importing/exporting settings in Thunderbird

2015-08-08 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Chris,

I don't know if mozbackup will do what you want. It gives you a backup and
restore of your profile, mail boxes, and probably more.

As for the customizing, Don't know if that comes accross or not. Could be
worth a try though.

Works with Thunderbird, and firefox. accessible as well.

Joe

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Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Guys,

I have a question. A friend of mine told me yesterday that there was a way to
export all of my thunderbird settings then reimport them on another computer.
I don't speak just of all my e-mails, and all my accounts. I mean, it
literally imports all the things under account settings, as well as all my view
settings, all the things I configured through tools, options, etc.

I have looked literally everywhere. My friend wasn't totally clear if he used
an add-on to do this, or if you natively can do it.

Basically, here's the deal. I have Thunderbird completely the way I now like
it. I even had my mom drag the e-mail list headers with the mouse for me into
the order I desire. Plus, I have my gmail configured, a few mail filters set,
etc. I want to install Thunderbird on my desktop machine, but I don't want to
have to go through all the setup configuration again, as frankly, I'm not
totally sure I could totally remember what all I changed. Plus, I don't want
to have to get my mom again to drag my message list headers around for me, etc.
So, how can I export all of my settings, so that when installing to my
desktop, I don't have to go through all that crap again.

Chris.
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Re: How Do I Locate And Get To My Windows 7 Product Key

2015-08-07 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi. If you are still looking for your product key, then this might help.


in this email, below the wordws, product key code starts here, and up to and 
including the words end function

copy all the text, and save it as a .vbs file.

Then run it.

Your key will be displayed.

Joe
Product key text starts here.

Set WshShell = CreateObject(WScript.Shell)
MsgBox ConvertToKey(WshShell.RegRead(HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows 
NT\CurrentVersion\DigitalProductId))

Function ConvertToKey(Key)
Const KeyOffset = 52
i = 28
Chars = BCDFGHJKMPQRTVWXY2346789
Do
Cur = 0
x = 14
Do
Cur = Cur * 256
Cur = Key(x + KeyOffset) + Cur
Key(x + KeyOffset) = (Cur \ 24) And 255
Cur = Cur Mod 24
x = x -1
Loop While x = 0
i = i -1
KeyOutput = Mid(Chars, Cur + 1, 1)  KeyOutput
If (((29 - i) Mod 6) = 0) And (i  -1) Then
i = i -1
KeyOutput = -  KeyOutput
End If
Loop While i = 0
ConvertToKey = KeyOutput
End Function

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we 8.x and thunderbird 24

2015-08-05 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

hello.

Window-eyes is not reading the edit window when composing messages in t-bird 24.

I've set the composition settings as on another pc, but this lack of feedback, 
when navigating the text  doesn't happen. Keyboard input is spoken though, it's 
just reviewin that is not.

I've also installed the latest TBenhanced app. Sorry this is a little vague. You
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not a win-eyes problem, but you might know the answer

2015-08-04 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Morning all,

Is anybody having problems with eudora certificates when accessing gmail?
Eudora won't accept the equefax certificate that gmail is sending out.

I suspect that this might be the time to consign eudora to the recycle bin, but
your work-around might just prolong eudora's life by a short but significant
period of time. I can't find any reference to the current situation regarding
gmail certificates, lots of earlier issues with certification but not this one..

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outlook express

2015-07-18 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Good evening,

I know that outlook express is not supported under windows 7, but I would be
keen to hear from anybody who has it working totally smoothly? Particularly if
you have modified the programme or window-eyes setfiles to facilitate better
access.

Thanks.

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We with office?

2015-07-15 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi,

Will window-eyes register with office 365?

Hope I've got the numbers correct.]
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Re: window-eyes and outlook 2013: trying again!

2015-07-09 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi,
If you change the view to plain text, might this get round the problem?

If you need tables, of course it will not.
If they are merely for presentation, then this will help.

Having sed this, outlook shouldn't re-start.

Can you check this without WE running? or with apps disabled?

Joe

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Hello list. Is their a way in outlook 2013 and Window-Eyes to, when opening
up a message that has tables in it, not cause outlook to restart? The reason
that I ask is that I am having a problem where if I open up a newsletter
that has tables in it, with Window-Eyes running, outlook 2013 restarts. This
does not happen using the 2010 version of outlook. Anyways to fix this?
Thanks, Sky.

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Re: Files not downloading into the downloads folder

2015-07-08 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Which browser please?

Joe
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 21:09:10 +1000
Ivan Cribb via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Running Windows 7 64 bit, Outlook 2070 and W E 9.1, The subject describes
the problem. 

I must have done something inadvertently to cause downloaded files to go
into another folder. How can I get them to download into the correct folder.

Thanks for any help,

Ivan 

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Re: For those with speech loss and crash issues

2015-06-29 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi,

I suspect that there is more than one cause to speech los and crashing.  This
machine has 8 GB of ram, and still lockups and some crashes.

To track these problems down is never straight forward, as even on identically
specked machine, different behaviours will manifest thenselves.
Of course there will be common causes and solutions to specific crashes, but
there are those which fall outside the criteria.

This is one of a set of circumstances which make it so difficult for tech
support to solve.

I guess that careful scrutiny of the appropriate windows log files may point in
the right direction.  T those who upgrade their ram, and if crashes go away,
then that is good.  4 GB of physical ram is max for 32-bit versions of windows
7, then much more than that for 64-bit versions.

Most folk probably know this but in case somebody does not,

Here are the upper RAM limits for the different editions of Windows 7: 
 
Starter: 8GB 
 
Home Basic: 8GB 
 
Home Premium: 16GB 
 
Professional: 192GB 
 
Enterprise: 192GB 
 
Ultimate: 192GB 


Good luck with the crashes.

Joe
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fsecure security suite

2015-06-08 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Evening all,

Anybody used Fsecure? If so, was it accessible or not using latest window-eyes?

Thank you.

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Re: \\\\\\\USB drives.

2015-06-06 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Reg,

Often the ports on the back are faster than those mounted on the front pannel.
This seems true of dell machines in my limited experience.


On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 21:02:34 +1000
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Hi Reg the only thing i know is the USB 3.0 have blue near the port.
But unless you can see it its not much use.
Cheers Michael.

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Subject: Re: \\\USB drives.

Michael
Windows seems much less picky about conection and disconection of USB
devices these days.  I can now unplug devices without being threatened
by the end of the world.
On another related point, a question.
When Windows comes up, I often get an alert
This device can perform faster if it is connected to a super fast
USB3.0 port.
My problem is, I'm not sure which ports on my machine are which, and
Windows doesn't tell me which device Can perform faster, or at least
I'm not seeing anything that tells me that.
Any advice?

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michael's via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

 Hi guys \\i have noticed when \i use a USB drive and then i want to eject  
 it so \i go in to notifications and click on it then click eject storage  
 mass drive and WE use to say its safe to remove it.But now WE does not say  
 anythink so i just guess its safe to unplug it.
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desktop is changed

2015-06-05 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi good people,

I like icons with recycle-bin near the top, and the rest as much as possible in
alphabet order.

For some reason, ahnd there will be a reason, the re-cycle-bin is number 28 of
28 and computer is about 12.

Having checked the desktop settings against a system which is in the order that
I want, I can observe that the settings on both machines as regards the desktop
are identical.

So here's the kicker.  How do I get my desktop icons back in the order that I
want, when it appears that all settings are correct?

Thanks.

Joe

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Re: packmate 20 and we,

2015-06-04 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi all, and thanks.

I've located the driver.

Thanks again.

Joe

On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:34:29 +0100
Joe Paton via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm sure I've dealt with this before, but I can't locate any refference to what
was suggested.

I need to hook up a packmate display to we.  It appears in the displays list,
but as it is not seen by we, there must be a usb driver or some such.

any help welcome.

Thanks,

Joe

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word 2013

2015-06-04 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Morning all,

I recall in previous versions of office word, accessibility was improved by
turning of certain features, changing auto-format and layout options.

Are there settings in word options to be changed to deliver better access with
we 9.1, or in fact for any screen reader?

Thanks.

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Re: Unable to select text using latest version of sindoweyes.

2015-04-14 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hello  Al,

Hope the post below helps clarify things for you.
from Doug Geoffray on the new method of
cutting, copying and pasting in IE.

His message is below.

message starts here.


Jim,

This is by design.  I responded privately to a user about this 
yesterday...below is my explanation I sent him (slightly modified for 
public consumption).

This gets very hard to explain but the two f8 issues you provide are by 
design...but here it goes.

Window-Eyes 9 now uses IE to actually select the information.  We give 
it the beginning and end and it selects.  This has a couple advantages.  
First, this acts exactly like a sighted user would get if they took the 
mouse and selected the text.  They would get the same results.  Second, 
it allows for formatting to be included. Window-Eyes 8.4 simply gave you 
the text and no formatting or graphics or anything.

The problem comes in when a screen reader provides information that 
isn't typically visible on the page.  For example, what if this were a 
graphical link?  The user sees a picture but the author labeled the 
image specifically for accessibility.  A sighted user would never get 
this description, only the image itself.  With Window-Eyes 9, that is 
what you also get.  Another example is what if the link is showing 
whatever but they use ARIA to mark up what a screen reader (any 
accessibility aid for that matter) should be using? Again, IE wouldn't 
render this ARIA text but it is the accessible text the web author 
gave.  We can't select the text that IE doesn't report with the normal 
clipboard selection.

This is partly why shift-arrow selection is so difficult now because we 
don't have our little pre-processed static buffer anymore like the 
outdated 8.4 technique.  We can't stay in sync with what you are 
selecting and what IE can really render.  NVDA gets away with this 
better (although still not perfect) by not allowing you to select 
formatting or images...they are basically doing the old WE 8.4 technique.

Bottom line, to make this manageable, when you select anything from a 
link, we force the entire link.  This is why if you are on a link and 
you just hit f8 twice followed by enter for copy you get the entire link.

At some point we may implement a feature that if the beginning and end 
of the selection using f8 is done on the same line then we just copy the 
text as we provide even though IE wouldn't ever render this to a sighted 
user.  In most cases I'm seeing people do what you are doing, select a 
few words from the current line and not spanning lines.  I think we 
could do this correctly but it still wouldn't allow you to select from 
the middle of a link down and include the next line as one example.  
Well, not without getting the entire link from the first line.  
Remember, a sighted user often can't even get to the text that a screen 
reader speaks...and even in the youtube example, a sighted user also 
can't just clip the name from the link text, it just won't let me.  It 
just depends on how the page was done.

So you may not like how it handles this but it is now 100 percent 
accurate.  You can of course fine tune what you want after pasting.

I hope this helps.

Doug

On 2/6/2015 8:21 AM, Jim Ruby wrote:
 If you only want to copy part of a url the f8 command still will copy the
 entire thing.

 Outlook 2007
 We 9.0
 Win 7 x 64

 url example is http://test.com/indexjunk.htm
 1 go to beginning to url
 2 f8
 3 right arrow to say the end of the base url http://test.com/
 4 f8
 5 copy

 Go paste it and you get
 http://Test.com/indexjunk.htm

 still added stuff that you did not want.

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 09:48:20 +0100
Joe Paton via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Alan,

What application are you using where you are selecting text?

I note you are using windows live mail, is this where you are having problems?

Thanks.

Joe


On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 00:22:36 -0400
via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Good  evening all,  

It seems that whenever I try to select text using the shift end key, in window 
eyes, I hear a windows tone sound, and nothing gets selected.  For example, if 
I try to select the email

Re: Diagnostics

2015-03-30 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Reg,

If this isn't a window-eyes problem, a starting point maybe the event log.

There maybe too many entries as I write, so you may want to start with a new
log. Others i am sure can tell us both how to do this.

Then to delve further: the information on this page may help, but it would take
me out of my comfort zone unless it was my problem.

The link is split unfortunately.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2201779/applications/how-to-solve-windows-7-crashes-in-minutes.html
Kind regards,
Good Luck,

Joe

On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:54:10 +0100
Reg Webb via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

If W-E, or perhaps it's the computer, crashes in a way which means I
lose everything except the letter keys, three of the numpad keys which
just say beginning of Page, end of page, and center, my only option
is to restart. In that case, is it worth starting diagnostics when
Windows comes up again, or is all memory of the problem session lost?
This has now happened to me twice.

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Re: Reinstalling Windows 7

2015-03-29 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Barbara,

Are you sure you need to re-install windows 7?
If you do, do you have an windows 7 CD?

If so, do you have the product key? This may not be needed if you are
installing on a recent dell machine, because the key is in the bios.

Drop me a note if I can help further.

Joe

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 20:15:50 -0500
Barbara Sheinbein via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am experiencing some major Windows 7 corruption issues. I may need to
start all over with Windows 7. I am sure I had some Windows 7 setting to
- make things more accessible. I have no clue what I may of changed all
those years ago. I am looking for suggestions and/or tips on making Windows
7 more accessible. Articles or podcasts are fine.

FYI I have Window-Eyes 9.1

Thanks in advance for any help.

Barbara

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Re: Listening to BBC programmes with Internet Explorer and Firefox

2015-03-16 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Samuel,

Here's a link to a dictionary for T-bird.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3337243/us-en-spchker.xpi
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:39:18 +
Samuel Wilkins via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Hello Reg, 
Sometimes I get the pop-out player control in Firefox.  I only recently
managed to make it visible again, but I have no idea what I did to do it,
except accidentally clicking on something.  

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Subject: Listening to BBC programmes with Internet Explorer and Firefox

Hi all

I have Window-Eyes9.1, but I think I have experienced the differences
between these browsers under previous versions of Window-Eyes.
If I select a previously broadcast programme via
bbc.co.uk
Internet Explorer shows me a Listen with pop out player link, which
Firefox does not.
Is this true for me alone, or is this a general problem, and can it be
fixed?
I notice other controls on other sites, particularly buttons, which IE
shows and Firefox does not.
The apparent inaccessibility of the pop out player with Firefox is a
particular problem because its controls work really well once selected.
I would prefer Firefox to be my default browser if possible, but the
browser seems determined to make itself inaccessible in annoying ways,
while trumpeting its commitment to accessibility.
Why does Firefox fail to recognise some of the controls with which IE
seems to have no problem?
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Re: Thunderbird Problem

2015-03-01 Thread Joe Paton via Talk

Hi Robert,

there isn't another window open obscuring the message window? I have seen this
with Eset nod32 when there is an alert. Just an idea.

Joe
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 09:10:13 -0600
robert martin via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Good Morning, When typing a message in Thunderbird it appears to put a
word on each line so that to read the message I have to cursor down the page.
Also this seems to complicate reading to end at least sometimes. Interestingly
when I look at a message that has been sent it appears to have more or less
correct formatting. I suspect I've pushed some button somewhere that has
created this problem. It seems to me that I've had this problem at least once
before when I first started using Thunderbird but I can't remember the
solution. Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer a solution

Regards,

Bob Martin

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