RE: junk email
If gmail were identifying the messages as SPAm, the messages wouldn't even make it to the Junk folder. It appears that either the mail client or a personal mail filter is identifying the messages as junk. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 4:59 PM To: Ross McGregor; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: junk email if they are useing gmail they have to log onto there web mail spam folder and mark your messages as not spam. then it will be added to there white list and will go to the in box from then on. other wise they have to add your email to the safe list in there program and turn off email fishing so they will not be marked as spam. -Original Message- From: Ross McGregor via Talk Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:43 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: junk email Hi, Am using win 7. And Wineyes 9.2 When I send emails from outlook 2013 to some friends in my contacts list, it finihshes up in their junk folder, rather than there in box. Not all friends, just some. Anyone know why this is? Apart from the fact it could be indicative of the intelectual content of my email messages, is there some technical reason? Ross. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions
Rick: From my recollection, the email in question allowed for a simple reply leaving the subject line in tact. This avoids the necessity to click on a link. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 5:57 AM To: 'Steve Jacobson'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Anyone heard from AI Squared about their e-list problems and the detailed postings about potential causes and resolutions Hi Steve: First, For me clicking the Reinstate link in the e-mail telling me my account had been disable seemed to work. That said, it is risky to ever click on anything inside a e-mail message unless you are 100 percent sure who the sender was. Financial institutions include enough partial information in such a e-mail to ensure it is related to the actual sender and your account to avoid bad guys from spoofing, fishing or even trying to impart a virus on your machine in their name. After talking on list I was pretty sure the message was from AI Squared so did that after having tried to do it via the Website which I couldn't get to work - at least not quickly. Next,there is a process where the providers like Comcast, Brighthouse, Yahoo and most others will ping back any messages sent to them to see if it was sent from a valid, active, e-mail address and this, I think, is a part of the DKIM standards put in place and adopted since think around 2005. If a valid return is not received they will bounce back the message to your provider, usually also sending it through to the end point but sometimes flagging it as spam, sometimes not before it gets to the endpoint client. Your providers Mailman will get the postbacks, bounces, as a warning that there was a potential security issue with the message sent from your Mailman server and check the settings to see how to handle them. Unless setup to handle these bounces your providers Mailman will increment a counter depending on the bounceback level, hard or soft, for the person who tried to send the message through the providers Mailman server. If Mailman is configured to disable an account after a certain number of bounces your client will then be automatically disabled when that threshold has been reached. The bouncebacks your Mailman Provider is getting is thus likely due to the fact it is not setup to handle the ping backs, security tests, that the big providers use, gets their bounces even if they send the message through to the end user marked as spam, not marked as spam or the big provider might not even send it through but they all will generate a bounce back to your Mailman Provider if Mailman and your Host Provider are not setup properly. Of course, without having access to your providers hardware and software there is no way for me to either verify this nor fix it. This is what several folks have told me they have encountered in the past and others have told me the same thing and to look into the Domain thingy - I forget exactly what it is called but think the acronym was DKIM.This is not in my programming wheelhouse so I had to dig to find out what may be going on via the symptoms reported by everyone. It is a standard all the big e-mail host providers agreed to use from what I remember about that article I posted here much like the w3c standards or iso standards with a governing body and all that jazz. I know you are a pretty good programmer so take a look at things, Mailman Documentation and see what it says about bouncebacks and automatic removel of clients and settings, then read up on the DKIM thing, I will go find the actual name if you get stuck but the document was in one of my prior postings. If this is not the problem let me know so I wont be barking up the wrong tree. I wont get mad or hurt feelings, I just want to get the job done. Your fault, my fault, nobodys fault - just get it done is my philosophy. This may mean tweaking the software or even finding a new provider but many of us are on several other high traffic lists and don't have these problems. One other thing to look at not mentioned is that someone may have put your lists on a BlackList which some of the list providers look at - remember that hacker who didn't seem to like you guys? So you might peek at them to ensure your lists are not being black listed before stranggling your list provider. That's all I have unless there is anything I can look up or ask folks who actually know about this stuff, I don't know much myself but enough to ask questions that usually get answered by the folks I need to talk to. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit
RE: previous link
I believe what he is asking about is the Previous Position hotkey which is found within the Hotkeys/Browse mode section of the Control Panel. On my computer, this hotkey is set as INSERT-r but then again this key combination is also set to Reclass in the Hotkeys/Miscellaneous section. Both are set to Global. When I hit this hotkey while in Browse Mode from within a page in FF I get the message not a valid key press. HTH. Chris: Your approach only works assuming the previous position was in fact the last, linearly speaking, visited link on the page. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:45 PM To: Brice Mijares; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: previous link Hi, One way I do it is to go to the bottom of the page and press shift-v. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 1:39 PM To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: talk window eyes Talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Re: previous link Okay, I must have confused some of you. I have no problem going to the previous page. The problem is, once back on the previous page, I don't land on the link that I last click on! I'm placed back at the top of the page, have to hit tab key until I hear a click, then I have to hit H or L until I get back to the link I had click on. This has been going on for the last 2 major upgrades. My personal opinion is web access and functionality has digressed. I'd like to know how you all get beyond that last link instead of going through links you've already passed over? - Original Message - From: via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:59 AM Subject: RE: previous link Bey, Bryce. I found out accidentally that the backspace key will also take you to the previous page. Try that, and, try using the WE redraw hot key, and, the F5 refresh key. Sometimes I have to resort to opening the history dialog and finding my way back that way. hth, Lou N. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 8:22 AM To: talk window eyes Subject: previous link When hitting enter on a link and going to that page,how do you get back to the previous link? Hitting alt left arrow hasn't work the way it use to for a long time. I had a work around by copying the link to the clipboard then hit enter on the link. When I wanted to go back to the previous link, I'd hit alt left arrow, once I was back at the previous page, I'd hit shift control F and paste the link from the clipboard and hit enter and I'd be back at the previous link. This hasn't worked in the last 2 versions of wineyes. Using current version of FX and wineyes. Vista home. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/fenderwa l%40sb cglobal.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bricemijares%40att.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit
RE: Windows Explorer in Windows 7
It sounds like, instead of details you selected Choose Details. ALT-v followed by D will check the Details option. With this checked simply using the cursor keys to move across the row should cause the desired information to be read. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:19 PM To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows Explorer in Windows 7 I checked details, but it doesn't change, but what it gave me was a list of something like two hundered and something items to check in details. I want to hear what size the files are, and what file type. Pam. -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 5:46 PM To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Windows Explorer in Windows 7 You should hear size if you have details checked under view. - Original Message - From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com To: talk viaGW t...@window-eyes.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 5:40 PM Subject: Windows Explorer in Windows 7 At one time, I thought I could hear the size, or at least an approximate size, of a folder spoken. Now, I get no size information even wqhen Size is checked under the View menu. Have I remembered wrong or just forgotten something? I do hear file sizes. I checked Folder Ooptions in Control Panel and didn’t see anything that would directly relate to this. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: outlook jumping fields when opening message
Could it be that you are trying to navigate the message too quickly? I often experience the same problem. Closing the message, reopening the message and waiting for Window-Eyes to finish reading the summary information works for me. I.E. when I opened this message, Window-Eyes spoke: RE: outlook jumping fields when opening message, plane text. If I wait for this information to finish speaking before trying to cursor through the message I can navigate the message as expected. I doubt it has anything specifically to do with the information being read, it likely just requires time for Window-Eyes to finish processing the message. HTH. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:06 PM To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Rod Hutton'; 'Dave Bahr' Subject: RE: outlook jumping fields when opening message I'm seeing this, too, and I don't think it happened when I was on WE 8.4 last week. For me, it seems that my focus is lost somewhere between the subject line and the body of the message. I do not virtualize messages by default, so I can see that the cursor is blinking at the top of the message on the ones that read correctly and, for those that I need to Shift tab and tab back, the cursor is not visible until I shift tab and tab. When I hit shift tab, I hear subject, then tabbing brings me to the body. Of the four messages at the top of my work inbox, 2 did not read immediately and 2 did. I cannot see any consistency or difference between those four, such as message format, notifications bars, or such. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+robin.van.lant=key@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 5:33 AM To: 'Rod Hutton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Dave Bahr' Subject: RE: outlook jumping fields when opening message Rod, In the message list window I've tried positioning the pointer to top right, bottom left, top left, all before opening your message, and None of these pointer positions seem to affect the readability when opening your message here, for example. Louis Gosselin -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:42 AM To: 'Dave Bahr'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: outlook jumping fields when opening message Hi Dave, Does it have anything to do with the position of your mouse pointer? Try routing the mouse to the top left of the main Outlook window and see if it affects the performance once you open a message. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bahr via Talk Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:14 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: outlook jumping fields when opening message -Hi. When I open message in outlook 2010, window-eyes, or the cursor, jumps to various fields in the message window without me pressing keys. Usually it's the from or subject field. Has anyone else experienced this? I'll have to tab and shift tab to try to get back to the message body. I can't say it happens all the time, but a good majority of the time, it does. Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/gosselin_louis %40myfairpoint.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/robin.van.lant%40key.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information.
RE: Question about the information WE gives you concerning the layout of a web page
Some of the verbosity can be eliminated. In Control Panel, with Show Advanced Options enabled, go to Verbosity/Browse Mode and modify what you want to hear. You cannot turn off the speaking of Link, except for in read-to-end. You can turn off the speaking of List. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 8:48 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Question about the information WE gives you concerning the layout of a web page Sometimes, I will use the down arrow to browse links so that I can read any text between two links for example. As I arrow down, I'll get info like end navagation or end list (or both) and that info is often attached to a link. This sometimes causes me to miss that link at first. Is there a way I can stop WE from telling me about landmarks, articles, lists and navagations? And while I'm asking questions, I told you about that message board I frequent: http://www.nyrmb.com When I'm on that site, browsing links, WE will say the letter C, to let me know that this is the first post in a thread, and then the letter D for the next one, and I believe the letter S for subsequent posts in a thread. Can I eliminate that feature as well? Thanks for this list. I can ask all these trivial questions which I've wondered about for years. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: For those with speech loss and crash issues
Hmm, 'wonder why exiting JAWS and restarting it fixes the Window-Eyes speech problem ... (SMILE) -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Talk Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 2:07 PM To: wohlg...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: For those with speech loss and crash issues I have to exit JAWS, then turn it back on, when speech stops. Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right. Henry Ford. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Jim via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com To: Mike Rogers harpm...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:44 AM Subject: Re: For those with speech loss and crash issues Hi there! Don't really experience the loss of speech very often, but when I do, I just press the 'Alt-Ctrl-W' and this brings my W.E. back. Really don't know what causes W.E. to drop, but don't view it as being a big deal since the W.E. hotkey will bring it back for me. Just my two sence whatever that's worth these days! TNX73 de KF8LTJim Wohlgamuth eMail: wohlg...@gmail.com. On 28-Jun-15 09:50, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote: I have been having loss of speech more frequently, with Becky email and W.E. I was having to reboot, but today I exited Window euyes and switched to N.V.D.A. I opened Becky email, then exited NVDA and switched back to W.E. The sound came back. So this must be a Window Eyes issue. www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/4carolyna%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Serious Problem with WE and browsers
What happens when you try to TAB around a page? Have you tried toggling Browse mode off and then back on? If so, what happens? Have you tried ALT-TABBING away and then back again? HTH. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:17 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Serious Problem with WE and browsers I am running win7-64 bit desktop using WE9.1. At some point today, after trying to figure out why the accessible google page would no longer read, I ran into this horrible problem: Using Window-Eyes, I can no longer read the screen in either firefox or IE 9. If I use ctrl-shift-w, I can read that there is information on the screen, but there is no access to anything with the keys. There is a small amount of text that is visible with the mouse keys in firefox, but it is not practical to read with. I do have access to the menues. Whatever the problem is, I was able to use NVDA to read and navigate the pages, but I don't use that program except when I get into trouble with WE. Therefore, I only have a very basic working knowledge of the program and miss all of my Window-Eyes keystrokes and options, i.e., copying text. At this point, I wouldn't even care about formatting if I could at least get the information from the page. Please, does anyone have any ideas why both browsers would have stopped reading and what I can do to fix the problem? To the best of my knowledge, only the browsers do not work. Thanks to anyone that can help me. Carol (Confused) ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Seeking Your Input
Don't you think someone would have already monetized or implemented an OCR solution to solving captchas if such was possible, or practical? The point of captchas is to prevent a machine from posing as a human. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 4:27 AM To: 'David Goldfield'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Tom Fairhurst' Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input Indeed! I took much time to write a program to manage my stock brokerage account e*trade, from the desktop per their suggestions about accessibility. After much work and during my first test instead of entering my id and password they popped up a captcha in addition so that puppy was put to sleep. I cant read them and 90 percent of the time cant pick out which letters and numbers from the garbled speech if there is even a speech option for the captcha. I was allot more annoyed since they told me creating my own UI interface using their API would be a good thing and, if no captcha, would indeed have been a good thing for blind users of e*trade. Other places around the net use them and I just don't make use of their services but that limits my ability to get things done in a prudant and, or, efficient manner. If there was an automated captcha handler, that would open up these situations for use by the blind who have trouble with captchas. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David Goldfield via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 3:17 PM To: Tom Fairhurst; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input I actually think that a built-in captcha decoder is a terrific idea. It would really make Window-Eyes stand out from its competition. Please read about the petition to allow Sister Diana Momenka, a persecuted Iraqi Christian, to visit the United States http://bit.ly/1IYJjMu Feel free to visit my Web site http://www.davidgoldfield.info David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist On 5/31/2015 3:11 PM, Tom Fairhurst via Talk wrote: Given the fact that I couldn't create an account for Google Groups and that I couldn't purchase a book from O'Reilly Media about the IPhone yesterday, I think improving web access should be a high priority. Also I note that I haven't received any helpful hints since I E-mailed the list about them yesterday. While the mouse can be moved around to some degree in Internet Explorer 11, it is far from optimal. Every now and then, I will pull up a web page., and it will freeze while loading. I can alt-Tab to other programs and back to the page but Window-Eyes won't read anything. However, when I press Alt-),, the web address will be read. Unlike other sites, you can't talk with anyone at Google about Google Groups. It's quite a joke when one can't even create an account to get on a list that is supposed to help visually-impaired people. Oh yes, there is AxisReader for reading Epubs--the Iphone app. Again,I can't sign up for a Google Groups acount so I can get on a mailing list to ask anyone about this. I can't even read the reference manual. Sorry for the rant, but I'm just frustrated. My Saturday was an utter failure. Back to my three priorities: They are improved web access including improved focus and use of the mouse, OCR capabilities including captcha solving, and fix Read-to-End in WLM when composing or replying to a message. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:32 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Seeking Your Input Hello Everyone, We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products. If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen reading product, what would they be? Thanks for the input! Jeremy Jeremy Curry Director of Product Management Ai Squared, Inc. Phone: (802) 362-3612 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/ ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tfairhurst%40k c.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/david.goldfiel d%40outlook.com. For subscription
RE: Seeking Your Input
I would guess the 2 is intended to be an exponent. In arithmetic exponent 2 means squared. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:38 AM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input Why do you write it AI2? Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:19 AM To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Jeremy Curry' Subject: RE: Seeking Your Input Hi Lloyd: From Gods mouth to AI2 ears me hopes. Rick USA -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:46 PM To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Seeking Your Input JAWS and especially NVDA are ahead of Window-Eyes in the use of iAccessible2 and UIA accessibility hooks. I would like to see as much support as possible for these accessibility methods in the scripting language, in developer documentation and example code. Programmers need really clear examples of when to set the name, value, description, role, etc. of these controls. If the mouse pointer can be used with any of these, that would be a bonus. Keep working on web browser support, for all three browsers. You might want to have a quirks mode, trying to fix bugs in popular web sites and site building tools' output, as well as a WCAG standards mode that gives web developers an experience of what an ideal user agent will do if the pages are coded properly, with no allowance for quirks. It goes without saying that you will need to support touch gestures. You will need to continue to educate users and developers concerning the causes of some of the crashes or apparent crashes. I think most of us don't have any idea how difficult it is to work with modern web pages and apps. People have forgotten that sometimes pressing ctrl-shift-W twice will give information that's not available otherwise, and that other programs can only be read by moving the mouse pointer around. You will gain the best market share by staying up-to-date and by being stable and dependable, not by adding more unique features or free speech synthesizers. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Jeremy Curry via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:32 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Seeking Your Input Hello Everyone, We are constantly working behind the scenes to improve our products. If you could narrow down the top three requests you would have us add to our screen reading product, what would they be? Thanks for the input! Jeremy Jeremy Curry Director of Product Management Ai Squared, Inc. Phone: (802) 362-3612 Email: jcu...@aisquared.commailto:jcu...@aisquared.com Web: www.aisquared.comhttp://www.aisquared.com/ ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet .com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions
RE: Accelerators in Outlook 2010
Hi Rod: I think you are referring to the shortcut key. An accelerator key doesn't open a ribbon; it performs an action without opening the ribbon. BTW, ALT-p is the key-combination for Options in Outlook 2010. ALT-t should get you a ding. HTH. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 1:31 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Accelerators in Outlook 2010 Hi everyone, Something which has been troubling me for some time is that many people seem to know certain accelerators for menu items in Outlook 2010, but these don't speak for me even though I have the global setting to speak them turned on and I have the proper sets installed. An example is that T is the accelerator for Options on the File menu and yet I don't hear the T when I highlight Options. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Rod ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE and Netflix?
If you are using IE, have you tried routing the mouse to focus? This can be performed with INSERT-NUMPAD-+; that's INSERT and NUMPAD plus. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of tchild via Talk Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:48 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE and Netflix? Hi everyone, I’m trying to use netflix and you have to hoover the mouse over titles to get a little pop up where u can click “watch”, Are there any work-arounds or and accessible netflix page?? Thanks ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Accessible Stock Broker Sites
Rick: I am not exactly what one would call an active trader but I have been using TD-Ameritrade since it was simply Ameritrade back in 1999. Though I can't always remember how to perform money transfers, there is accessible help. Their mobile app, in my opinion, is far from accessible despite my reporting problems several times. IN theory many Web sites are supposed to be accessible. Unfortunately, I'm not sure developers are getting objective evaluations of their sites' accessibility. Their highest priority is making the site quick and easy for their typical user(s.) Accessibility is not the only victim of this philosophy: security is also compromised. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 5:36 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Accessible Stock Broker Sites Hi: I use e*trade but the transfer money wont work with a screen reader as far as I can tell and it is a problem. I can trade well enough all be it with some fudging around. First, I thought Financial Institutions sites were suppose to be accessible. Second, does anyone use a brokerage allot, used many of its trading and money management features, with WindowEyes and found it very accessible? I am getting tired of slogging through the e*trade maze but it is a big hassle to transfer to another brokerage if there is a way to transfer funds online in e*trade if you know of one. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: OCR for window eyes
And what would be unethical about it? If I'm not mistaken, almost every Android phone in use is using open source software, namely the Android operating system. These phones are distributed widely, and for profit. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 6:53 PM To: Vaughan Dodd; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: OCR for window eyes Not just bad for business, but unethical. -Original Message- From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 6:45 PM To: 'Josh K' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: OCR for window eyes I suspect that using open source incorporated into a product which is not shareware or open source is unethical. AI Squared is a company making a profit from the development and sale of its products, and exploiting open source developers to maximise profit just is not good business. I also heard that podcast, and I was disappointed that no mention was made of braill enhancements as part of the nexst release. Vaughan. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+vdodd=xtra.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh K via Talk Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2015 11:27 a.m. To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: OCR for window eyes I was listening to a podcast on accessible world dot org and it said the reason window-eyes does not have OCR is due to licensing an OCR engine. well why not get around that by using the open source tesseract engine for window eyes OCR? NVDA uses tesseract for its OCR. I'm not sure if it is the latest version though. Josh -- follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd%40xtra.c o.nz. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dgbowles%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: speech drops out completely randomly while typing
Have you tried CTRL-ALT-w when this happens? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:53 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: speech drops out completely randomly while typing using windows 8.1 and windoweyes 9.1.0 speech drops out completely when randomly typing in any program. tried making sure that sound card enhancements were unchecked. tried typing windowsrwineyes.exe no luck. I have to restart my machine every time. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WindowEyes Set Files
In the beginning set files had the .set extension. At some point set Files switched to the .### format. They have reverted to the .set extension. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 2:18 PM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WindowEyes Set Files Rick, I was under the impression that set files had a .000 extension. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - From: Rick Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:44 AM Subject: WindowEyes Set Files Hi: Do WindowEyes Set Files have the .set or the .we file extension? Are .we files still supported and if not are the .set files the exact same code base and layout? Where is the documentation on creating a set file for WindowEyes? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/clgilland07%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE 9.1 issues with IE 11
I believe he said in his message that he was using IE 11. One can't ask for much more clarity. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 7:14 PM To: Don H; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: WE 9.1 issues with IE 11 Hello, what browser Is this? Is this the new Chrome support? Please be more clear. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 15 Mar 2015, at 8:59 am, Don H via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Running WE 9.1 on a Windows 8.1 64 bit system using IE 11. On what seems to be random cases after loading a web page two different things happen. First after the page loads you are placed at the bottom of the page. This causes immediate confusion as if you hit the down arrow key to start reading the page nothing happens. Gives you the false sense that speech has been lost. A second situation happens other times when after loading a web page if you try to use the control shift function find command it will indicate that the search found nothing when in fact it is there. In these cases if you either do a tab or arrow down a couple of lines and try the search again it finds what you are searching for just fine. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/brendoncdonohue%40icloud.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: speech fix app
Are you referring to the Extended Dictionary app? Using Appget it's in the Utilities node. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Charles Short via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:39 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: speech fix app Hello, I cannot find the speech fix app, you know the one where the synthesizer pronounces things correctly, like Dr. for Doctor and St. for Street or saint. I can't find it. Can someone please send me the link? I don't know what happened. Thank you very much Best Regards Charlie Short ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Googling Google Docs
To anyone interested in using Google Docs with Window-Eyes: I did a little google search regarding one of the features of Google Docs. I thought the results might be helpful to others. Here's what Google Help has to say about Compact and Normal Controls: Full screen mode and compact controls If you've ever wanted more room to work in one of your documents, you can now free up some space by viewing them in full screen or compact controls mode. Here's how: For compact controls, click the Hide the menus button on the right side of the toolbar. You can also go to the View menu and select Compact controls or use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Shift+F. For full screen mode, go to the View menu and select Full screen. If you're in full screen mode, you can return to regular viewing mode by hitting the Esc or Escape key. Google Docs will remember the view settings you've selected for your documents, spreadsheets, presentations, and drawings. For example, if you change your view setting to Full screen while working on a document and to Compact controls while working on a presentation, the next time you open or create a document or presentation, it will open in that app's most recent view mode (Full screen and Compact controls, respectively). Spreadsheets will remain in compact controls mode between sessions, but not in full screen mode. A couple notes: 1. To activate Compact Control Mode, or leave the same, you will need to either use the bypass key (INSERT-b by default,) or change the Window-Eyes Search hotkey (CTRL-SHIFT-f by default.) 2. Depending on your Browse Mode/Autoload settings, when leaving full-screen mode, ESCAPE may place you in Browse Mode; If so, you will need to hit escape a second time to return to Normal Viewing mode. Remember to hit CTRL-SHIFT-a to leave Browse Mode before attempting to edit or navigate your document. HTH. Richard G Applegate ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: reading properties screen
Is it possible the Mouse boundary has been changed? Try CTRL-SHIFT-b to rotor through the Mouse boundry settings. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 10:19 AM To: talk Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: reading properties screen When trying to read the properties information for a folder, normally, I use the mouse keys and go to the top of the screen and arrow down with the numpad 2 key to find the information I need. Now, I get a bong instead of movement. Why should this change? I am using a desktop PC with Win7 and WE9. There are other instances where the mouse bongs, also. Thank you. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: How do you turn off chromevox?
What if my computer doesn't have a Chromevox key? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:54 AM To: Andre; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: How do you turn off chromevox? ChromeVox-A twice. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Andre via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 4:43 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: How do you turn off chromevox? I haven't tried chrome for very long but just wanted to try it out. So how do I turn off chromevox? Is there a way to do that or do I have to uninstall or unload it from extension settings? I don't want my WE 9 eloquence being interfered withby the chromevox voice. Much thanks, Andre ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: mousing and media buttons
In the Keyboard node of the Control Panel. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Hagenau via Talk Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 10:24 PM To: Andre; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: mousing and media buttons Where would I find the default and lap-top lay out settings in window-eyes. I may need to re install it. At 09:20 AM 3/6/2015, you wrote: Is there any possibility to add mouse support to chrome in the near future? Plus I'd like to know what settings to activate in WE 9.1 for all browsers (ie, ff, and chrome) so I can identify flash buttons or other play type buttons? On too many pages, there are audios or videos I wouldn't even know about if I I wasn't told was supposed to be there. So far from what I can tell, the new browse mode or nonstatic buffer has a disadvantage of not knowing when I should exit browse mode to try and tab to the audio or video. Hopefully what I'm saying makes some sense. Thanks, Andre ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bryanhagenau%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Hotkey for different line next and different line prior
Just out of curiosity, what happens when you hit n while in Browse mode? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:11 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Hotkey for different line next and different line prior ok, thanks for the explaination. Just curious though why it was removed from the new browse mode? I thought it came in very handy and used to use it all the time? On 3/3/2015 5:07 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote: It has been removed from the new browse mode system. It is still in the hot keys list as some applications such as adobe reader still use the older static browse mode. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 8:02 PM To: 'Stephen Clark'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Hotkey for different line next and different line prior Hi Steve, I'm not trying to be a smart-aleck here, but you are certain you are in browse mode and not entering text in an edit box? Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 5:30 PM To: t...@window-eyes.com Subject: Hotkey for different line next and different line prior In Browse Mode, prior to V9, there was a hotkey which was D by default and would take you to the next element that was different from the one you were currently on. So for example, if you were on a long list of links, you could quickly get past them by hitting the letter D. After not being able to use this feature in version 9, I finally looked it up in the browse mode under hotkeys and it's still defined in the list. The problem is when you press it on a web page it says Not a valid key press. What's going on with this hotkey? ==Steve ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sclark04%40twcny.rr.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 11263 (20150303) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-Eyes 9 and Google Drive
Hi Mark: I am definitely not hearing punctuation when I type it or cursor over it. Just as a test, what happens if you hit ESCAPE to activate Browse mode and then use the up or down arrow? If I arrow down I find the link that says Screen reader mode is active, or something like that. If I then use CTRL-SHIFT-a to toggle Browse mode off, I am no-longer in the edit area of the document. CTRL-ALT-z first toggles screen reader mode off. I am using WIN 7HP with FF 35.0.1 and Window-Eyes 9.0.0. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Marc Solomon [mailto:msolo...@aisquared.com] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 2:00 PM To: Richard G Applegate; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Window-Eyes 9 and Google Drive Hi Richard, I am using Windows 8.1, Firefox 35.01 and Window-Eyes 9. I have all screen punctuation turned off (globally) and all keyboard punctuation turned on (globally). When I get into Google Docs, the screen reader support mode turns on automatically. If it doesn't, the hot key to toggle this feature is Control-Alt-Z. Once it is enabled, I am hearing punctuation as I type and when I cursor by character. When I navigate to a line of text with Up or Down Arrow, Window-Eyes does not announce the punctuation and honors my screen punctuation settings. Not sure why you are getting the results you are but wanted to let you know I cannot duplicate the issue with the settings and environment listed above. I am also able to turn Browse Mode on manually with Control-Shift-A and then turn it off again without issue. For me, the insertion point stays in the document regardless of the state of Browse Mode and as soon as Browse Mode is turned off, I am able to begin working in the document area again. On a side, note, there is a Enable Braille support option under the settings pull down in the Accessibility menu of the Google Docs toolbar (Alt-Shift-A). If I turn this option on, I get the best possible experience in speech tool. I hope you find this info helpful. Regards, Marc -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Richard G Applegate via Talk Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 6:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Window-Eyes 9 and Google Drive Hello listers: I have just been tooling around with Google Drive and Window-Eyes 9. Below are my observations based on a very brief test: 1. For me, Window-Eyes does not read punctuation, either when I type it, cursor over it or when I backspace over it. 2. I'm not sure whether it is Window-Eyes or Google Drive but at times there appears to be a phantom extra space between words. 3. Upon hitting escape, I seem to have gone into browse mode which doesn't allow me to edit the current document. Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to get back into edit mode. I did try CTRL-SHIFT-a which perportedly took me out of Browse mode but I still was not able to edit my document. Tabbing did little to help. There is no edit on the page so I was unable to use the quick-nav method of finding the edit box and returning to edit mode. If anyone can point out my ignorance, on this issue only, or give me tips I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Richard G Applegate ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/msolomon%40ais quared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Read entire window without Title Bar
Have you tried setting a user window to include everything you want and exclude what you don't? This done, you can set a hotkey to read your user window. HTH. GO BIRDS! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Woodward-Clarke via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:56 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Read entire window without Title Bar Hey How can I get Window Eyes to read out the entire screen without saying the title? I can press Control-Shift-W and that is almost what I want, but it includes the title bar, and repeating that will get very annoying in my situation. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Joshua ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Window-Eyes 9 and Google Drive
Hello listers: I have just been tooling around with Google Drive and Window-Eyes 9. Below are my observations based on a very brief test: 1. For me, Window-Eyes does not read punctuation, either when I type it, cursor over it or when I backspace over it. 2. I'm not sure whether it is Window-Eyes or Google Drive but at times there appears to be a phantom extra space between words. 3. Upon hitting escape, I seem to have gone into browse mode which doesn't allow me to edit the current document. Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to get back into edit mode. I did try CTRL-SHIFT-a which perportedly took me out of Browse mode but I still was not able to edit my document. Tabbing did little to help. There is no edit on the page so I was unable to use the quick-nav method of finding the edit box and returning to edit mode. If anyone can point out my ignorance, on this issue only, or give me tips I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Richard G Applegate ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
FW: Window-Eyes 9 and Google Drive
Okay, I think I have solved the punctuation issue, at least for the second and third instance: One needs to turn the various punctuations on in the Screen node of the Control Panel. I don't like this solution as I don't wish to hear the punctuation spoken when I am reading by line, sentence etc.; I just want to be able to hear the punctuation when I cursor across it. The speaking of the punctuation when I type it is a keyboard punctuation issue. As for the phantom space issue, this may be related to the way the insertion point is reported, either by Window-Eyes or by Google Docs. Either way, it is quite awkward. I still have found no solution for re-enabling the editing of a document after erroneously entering Browse mode. -Original Message- From: Richard G Applegate [mailto:richard.appleg...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 6:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List (talk@lists.window-eyes.com) Subject: Window-Eyes 9 and Google Drive Hello listers: I have just been tooling around with Google Drive and Window-Eyes 9. Below are my observations based on a very brief test: 1. For me, Window-Eyes does not read punctuation, either when I type it, cursor over it or when I backspace over it. 2. I'm not sure whether it is Window-Eyes or Google Drive but at times there appears to be a phantom extra space between words. 3. Upon hitting escape, I seem to have gone into browse mode which doesn't allow me to edit the current document. Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to get back into edit mode. I did try CTRL-SHIFT-a which perportedly took me out of Browse mode but I still was not able to edit my document. Tabbing did little to help. There is no edit on the page so I was unable to use the quick-nav method of finding the edit box and returning to edit mode. If anyone can point out my ignorance, on this issue only, or give me tips I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Richard G Applegate ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Outlook 2013 won't tell me how many messages are in my inbox
If you highlight the Inbox in the Treeview of mailboxes and use the Context key to bring up the menue of options, at the bottom of the menue is the properties option. Activate this option and tab over to the radio button that asks whether you want to see the number of unread items or the total number of items in the mailbox. HTH. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Shannon via Talk Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 3:00 PM To: brendoncdono...@icloud.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Outlook 2013 won't tell me how many messages are in my inbox Can you do the same in outlook 2010? I do wish that I could know how many messages were in a given folder. Thanks Shannon -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+shannon=bartchroofing@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of brendoncdono...@icloud.com via Talk Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:42 PM To: gosselin_louis; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Outlook 2013 won't tell me how many messages are in my inbox Hi, Try changing the view to IMAP messages! Thanks. Warm Regards, Brendon Donohue On 16 Feb 2015, at 9:48 pm, gosselin_louis via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Rod, In fact, I did shut Outlook down before executing that command. Rebooting after executing that command didn't seem to make any difference, either, at least not for telling me about numbers of messages. Louis -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:30 PM To: 'Rod Hutton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'gosselin_louis' Subject: RE: Outlook 2013 won't tell me how many messages are in my inbox Hi Louis, So sorry, but I forgot to say that you must shut Outlook down first before typing the command: Outlook.exe /cleanviews And pressing Enter. Otherwise, you'll get multiple copies of Outlook running. Anyway, if you do end up with multiple copies of Outlook running, just shut them all down, type the command, press Enter, and you should be okay. Good luck, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:12 PM To: 'gosselin_louis'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Outlook 2013 won't tell me how many messages are in my inbox Hi Louis, If you Hold down the left Windows key, and press R, you will call up the Run dialog box. If you were to then type the following command: Outlook.exe /cleanviews Making sure to type the punctuation just as I wrote it, this will restore Outlook, thereby eliminating any customized views you may have done intentionally or by mistake. Perhaps this will solve the problem. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of gosselin_louis via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 7:24 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Outlook 2013 won't tell me how many messages are in my inbox I do hope someone can help me with this problem, as it is still going on again today, without a break. I sent out the message below about this yesterday, but nobody responded. Louis Gosselin Running Win-Eyes 8.4 on a Windows7 Desktop. Throughout all of this morning now, whenever I attempt to learn how many messages are present in my in-box, by pressing Ctrl-Insert-s, I'm hearing Filter Filter Applied connectivity to your server and then something about synchronizing files. How long is that process supposed to go on? Can I do something to force the process to complete or stop or something, so I can find out how many messages I have in my in-box currently? It's quite commonplace to see this message, but usually it goes away after I've read and deleted a number of messages. Not so today. Thanks for any help. Louis Gosselin ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40h otmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or
RE: how do I get Window-Eyes to start on desktop when computer starts up
I'm assuming you wish for Window-Eyes to appear in the Notification area instead of appearing on the Task Bar. If so, go to Control-panel/General/Start-up options and tab until you find the radio button for this option. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.applegate=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of K4NKZ JIM via Talk Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 2:17 PM To: talk wineyes Subject: how do I get Window-Eyes to start on desktop when computer starts up how do I get Window-Eyes to start on desktop when computer starts up right now when computer starts Window-Eyes is on task bar! -- Have a nice day from, K4NKZ Jim ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.applegate%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
