Re: Solving Mouse Trap; (was: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes)
Hello David, Thanks so much for your suggestions. I will try to answer your questions as best I can First of all, about my system. No, I have never reinstalled Windows since it was set up more than a year ago. The only programs I have uninstalled of any significance were my Collins dictionary and my Word Web dictionary. I am the only person using this computer and to my knowledge I have never clicked on any offers of new programs. I use the network icon on the desktop as an example but, surprisingly, I haven't heard the word "Network" being repeated. I just chose the word out of the blue as an example. The repeated words could be part of the message or word file I am typing, or it could be words at the top or bottom of the screen if my mouse is in that position. I always disconnect the LAN cable from my computer whenever I go off line. My Desktop computer doesn't have a wireless connection. However, you might have a point about something trying to update. Java has been trying to get me to update but I recently abandoned the update halfway because I didn't quite understand what it was requiring me to do. I do diskclean at least once a day but I haven't used my C Cleaner for some time so I think I had better try that. I always avoid scheduling anything like antivirus or defragging programs, preferring to do these tasks manually when I have the time. In Windows 8, they don't use the word "Defrag" but "Optimize". I optimize my drives once inn a while even though I am told by Windows that my drives do not need optimizing. My antivirus program is the Windows Defender provided by Microsoft. I don't consider it a very effective antivirus program so I am ver wary about visiting strange websites. My computer technician did put on AVG for me but I told him to uninstall it as AVG has become rather inaccessible. I don't think he did a very good job of it as I still find traces of the program on my computer and that could be another source of my troubles. On the other hand, why should it only cause trouble recently? Just for your info, since I reported this strange behaviour, my mouse has been behaving properly, and the unwanted repetitions have stopped. Thanks again and I am definitely going to clean up my computer with C Cleaner tomorrow as I have to go out this evening. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 12:43 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Solving Mouse Trap; (was: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes) Well, Peter, This really sounds like a nut. If something like you describe is repeated over and over, like: Desktop, Network, Desktop, Network; I am almost ready to think this is due to some background service attempting to start, and likely not being able to perform what it wants. That could be, some sort of update, an unstabil network connection, Things like a disk Clean-up or Defragmentation, Scheduled scanning jobs from your Anti-Virus; or whatever else. Seemingly, the software is trying to do its job, fails, and pops back to the Desktop - determines that it wants to try again, also this time failing, and returning to the desktop. The screen reader is doing its job, in picking up that something is going on, and reading out to you what it can manage, before next operation is plunging in. Since this retrying is rapidly going on, the screen reader might not have time to read out all the dialogs, and you only hear the window titles spoken. GW were asked several years ago, if a user-activated delaying filter could be implemented, that would leave the screen reader time enough to recognize and speak out dialogs like this, or even determine to skip them altogether. Their reply in short, was that they did not see it as anything useful. Another screen reader which I used before WinEyes, did have such capability, which I found useful many a time. And NVDA seems to be slow enough, or perhaps more like agressive enough, to pick up all the info and take its time to read it aloud. Now for a moment, let's imagine my assumption is right. When the software has kept attempting a preset number of times, it pops an error message on you. That message is not visible to WinEyes, like we have talked about earlier. This invisible window is trapping your mouse; and you, are pulling your hair. Yes, a wild guess, but not totally out of the blue either. Again, I suggest trying an alternative screen reader for a little. This might just prove helpful, as another screen reader might pick up what is going on, and read out some info that will point you to the real nest of your trouble. Try install NVDA. Restart your computer, and when it is all ready, turn off WinEyes. For instance by hitting Ctrl-Insert-F4, and then Enter on the OK button. Then Start NVDA, by default Alt-Ctrl-N. Work on your computer as normal, writing some stuff, checking your email, browsing some familiar website, or whatever you typically are
Solving Mouse Trap; (was: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes)
all socket. Even the ones on any router or other hooked up units you might have. Are you on a wireless network, make sure that the cables from the modem to the wall, and to the router if applicable, are all tightly fit. Your wireless never gets better than what the cables dictate. If you know how to, maybe try resetting your wireless connection, or even changing the password. Even cross the yard, between different apartmens, and sometimes surprisingly long distance, others might be able to use your wireless connection. Have you any other people in your dwelling who are using their wireless units while you are on the computer? Or, have you recently refurnished your home, and now something like your radio or TV is troubling the wireless signals. It all could disturb the flow, and cause your computer to rapidly go on- and offline. Had some of that experience myself, many years ago. Did not understand what was going on, until I called the Internet Provider, and the tech guy told me that my internet had frequently gone on and off for the last few hours. Of course, if you want to play the full game of tracing - you could disconnect from the network. Disconnect the cable from your computer, or turn off the wireless switch if it has one. If nothing else, turn off your modem - unless that would cause inconvinience to you in any other way. Then start your computer all from start. That is, do not wake it up from hibernation or sleeping mode. Give it what we name a "cold boot". Now perform some normal offline activity for a period of time, long enough that you are sure the issue normally would have shown up. See if the issue does poke out its nose. You could of course lengthen the to-do list by also going to Network setup on your computer, and turn off the network there, just to inform the computer that it most definitely could save itself the trouble in attempting to connect to any network. Peter, I am aware that the thing you are facing might not be network related at all. I just spent a moment on advicing what to do, so as to shelter out one possibility. Is it always saying "network", when the unwanted speech goes on, or does it randomly give other messages. one thing could be to make some notes whenever the unwanted speech comes on, over a day or so, and let us know what it has been saying. Know that is a lot of extra trouble, and not sure if it will take us much further, but do give it some consideration. If you recently had someone fooling with your system, like some servicing personel, grandchildren or friends that wanted to help you out - be aware that they forcefully, or totally unknowingly, might have turned on some stuff that could be causing the issue. Maybe because they found it useful, and did not realize what trouble it would be for you. All wild guesses. And probably you feel more confused than ever. Troubleshooting could be quite a go, and specially so when we do not see all the glittery, flashing and colorful nignags that sighted people so greatly enjoy now aday on their screens. Unfortunately often such stuff is more of a trouble to the screen readers. On 2/29/2020 3:55 AM, peter Chin wrote: > Hello David, > > My mouse problems can show up at start-up or at any time afterwards. Trouble is, I don't know exactly when it happens after start-up unless I happen to want to use the mouse and I discover that the mouse is not working. When the mouse is not working, the cursor usually appears to be working fine. Whether the mouse is working or not, unwanted parts of the screen can suddenly start reading, often repeating many times, such as "Network, desktop, network, Desktop, network, desktop" and so on. > > At the moment as I am writing this reply, the mouse seems to be working alright. > > I realise that this kind of unpredictable behaviour is difficult to solve and I really appreciate your efforts to help. > > Thanks a lot. > -Original Message- From: David > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:40 PM > To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > Peter, > Let's see if I get you right. Please correct me where I am off-tracked. > > You start your computer, and the screen reader. For the most part, it > starts out as expected, with all mouse movements functioning. As you > keep working, all the sudden, and apparently without any further notice, > your mouse goes for a garden-party, and all the fun it leaves you is the > word "blank" when you try to control it. Did we get it right this far? > > This behavior takes place whether you are in one or the other > application.. You mentioned WLM and Windows Explorer. But are they the > only places the thing happens, or does it happen in pretty much any > other software as well? And, do you have an
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Hello David, Sorry for not answering your questions fully in my last reply, but I was in such a hurry to send it off that I only answered one of your questions, so I have decided to rwrite my reply again. My mouse problems can show up at start-up or at any time afterwards. Trouble is, I don't know exactly when it happens after start-up unless I happen to want to use the mouse and I discover that the mouse is not working. If the mouse is not working on the Desktop, it usually does not work in most other programs where there is a list of items such as files, folders or lists in menus. When the mouse is not working, the cursor usually appears to be working fine. Whether the mouse is working or not, unwanted parts of the screen can suddenly start getting read out, often repeating many times, such as "Network, desktop, network, Desktop, network, desktop" and so on. Once the mouse misbehaves, it continues to do so no matter what I do. Reloading WE or restarting the computer makes no difference. I just have to hope that when I turn my computer later on in the day or the next day, the mouse will work. I do have NVDA in portable form on my computer though I have not installed the latest version. At the moment as I am writing this reply, the mouse seems to be working fine although I am getting temperory loss of speech in WLM. I realise that this kind of unpredictable behaviour is difficult to solve without direct acces to the computer, and I really appreciate your efforts to help. Thanks so much. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:40 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Peter, Let's see if I get you right. Please correct me where I am off-tracked. You start your computer, and the screen reader. For the most part, it starts out as expected, with all mouse movements functioning. As you keep working, all the sudden, and apparently without any further notice, your mouse goes for a garden-party, and all the fun it leaves you is the word "blank" when you try to control it. Did we get it right this far? This behavior takes place whether you are in one or the other application.. You mentioned WLM and Windows Explorer. But are they the only places the thing happens, or does it happen in pretty much any other software as well? And, do you have an idea, whether this takes place after a given amount of runtime. Does it typically happen after say five minutes working time, or is it totally out of any time frame. Lastly, does it disappear after a while? At this point, I will have to do a couple of wild guesses. See if that takes us anywhere. What might be an extra question is, do you have any other screen reader installed. That is, do you for instance have NVDA on your computer. Sometimes this can prove a beneficial thing. NVDA has in a number of cases, proven to be a bit more agressive in grabbing info from the screen. And due to NVDA still being developed, it keeps up with modern screens in a way that WinEyes not always live up to. Put it the way, that NVDA does a quick go and get what it gets - whilst WinEyes does go about it a bit more thoroughly, but only get so much out of the job. Both being beneficial in their own ways. And here might be one of the cases when the more tools will give us the better job done. What I do get from the description you gave, the way I read it, seems to me you have some kind of a popup window showing up on your screen. A popup that WinEyes might not notice, but still gets crazy about. At least your mouse might enjoy it. Such popups could be notifications coming from other software, who needs a permission to update. Windows 7 and up, introduced us to a new measure of security, in the User Acount Control - which will ask your permission before performing any deep-going action on your computer, like an update or bigger altering of your software. Now, what if your anti-virus, your email program or any other piece of software needs to install an update. This update is of some major concern to the operativ system, and it will popup a message asking if you are comfortable with this software's meddling with your system. You likely have seen this kind of message, when attempting to install new software. OK, sometimes software have built-in popups on their own. I am not a WLM user, so cannot speak for that one, but it could be it has some extra fun in popping out a message window every now and then. Thing about such popups, is that they are not always easy to see for WinEyes. And they go hide themselves behind any other stuff. Still the mouse might stick with them. NVDA, though, has proven to be useful on my system, in cases like that. It might pick up popups even when they appear, and quite often alt-tabbing through the list of open software, NVDA will report if it finds any open popups. If things like you describe happens to me, I quic
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Hello David, My mouse problems can show up at start-up or at any time afterwards. Trouble is, I don't know exactly when it happens after start-up unless I happen to want to use the mouse and I discover that the mouse is not working. When the mouse is not working, the cursor usually appears to be working fine. Whether the mouse is working or not, unwanted parts of the screen can suddenly start reading, often repeating many times, such as "Network, desktop, network, Desktop, network, desktop" and so on. At the moment as I am writing this reply, the mouse seems to be working alright. I realise that this kind of unpredictable behaviour is difficult to solve and I really appreciate your efforts to help. Thanks a lot. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:40 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Peter, Let's see if I get you right. Please correct me where I am off-tracked. You start your computer, and the screen reader. For the most part, it starts out as expected, with all mouse movements functioning. As you keep working, all the sudden, and apparently without any further notice, your mouse goes for a garden-party, and all the fun it leaves you is the word "blank" when you try to control it. Did we get it right this far? This behavior takes place whether you are in one or the other application.. You mentioned WLM and Windows Explorer. But are they the only places the thing happens, or does it happen in pretty much any other software as well? And, do you have an idea, whether this takes place after a given amount of runtime. Does it typically happen after say five minutes working time, or is it totally out of any time frame. Lastly, does it disappear after a while? At this point, I will have to do a couple of wild guesses. See if that takes us anywhere. What might be an extra question is, do you have any other screen reader installed. That is, do you for instance have NVDA on your computer. Sometimes this can prove a beneficial thing. NVDA has in a number of cases, proven to be a bit more agressive in grabbing info from the screen. And due to NVDA still being developed, it keeps up with modern screens in a way that WinEyes not always live up to. Put it the way, that NVDA does a quick go and get what it gets - whilst WinEyes does go about it a bit more thoroughly, but only get so much out of the job. Both being beneficial in their own ways. And here might be one of the cases when the more tools will give us the better job done. What I do get from the description you gave, the way I read it, seems to me you have some kind of a popup window showing up on your screen. A popup that WinEyes might not notice, but still gets crazy about. At least your mouse might enjoy it. Such popups could be notifications coming from other software, who needs a permission to update. Windows 7 and up, introduced us to a new measure of security, in the User Acount Control - which will ask your permission before performing any deep-going action on your computer, like an update or bigger altering of your software. Now, what if your anti-virus, your email program or any other piece of software needs to install an update. This update is of some major concern to the operativ system, and it will popup a message asking if you are comfortable with this software's meddling with your system. You likely have seen this kind of message, when attempting to install new software. OK, sometimes software have built-in popups on their own. I am not a WLM user, so cannot speak for that one, but it could be it has some extra fun in popping out a message window every now and then. Thing about such popups, is that they are not always easy to see for WinEyes. And they go hide themselves behind any other stuff. Still the mouse might stick with them. NVDA, though, has proven to be useful on my system, in cases like that. It might pick up popups even when they appear, and quite often alt-tabbing through the list of open software, NVDA will report if it finds any open popups. If things like you describe happens to me, I quickly press the hotkey to start NVDA, and once it comes up, I might Alt-Tab my way around. Sometimes just starting NVDA, and it automatically discovers and reads out the popup to me. Funny thing is, when NVDA is active, I can get WinEyes to focus on the popup and maybe even interact with it, something that is out of question with WinEyes running on its own. Drawback of it all, of course is, that you will have to deal with both screen readers chattering simultaneously for the moment you have NVDA loaded. But you just need it for the time of discovering what is going on. Once you have done what you need to do, you just close down NVDA, and back to WinEyes. The other thing that could be worth a try, is for a while to turn off all apps in WinEyes. I am not aware which app would cause your trouble, but it
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
More and more programs don't provide data that Window-Eyes's off-screen model can use to determine the position of the mouse. W- E reads their output using techniques that use accessibility provided by the program in question, and sometimes this results in the data being spoken, and navigable in a special "virtual cursor" or "browse" mode, but the mouse pointer will just say "blank." This has become much more frequent for Windows 10 programs. JAWS is continuing to grapple with the problem using what they call the "touch cursor," and what NVDA calls "object navigation." I think that recent versions of Windows Narrator call this mode "scan mode." Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD -Original Message- From: peter Chin via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:09 PM To: David ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: peter Chin Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Hello David, Thank you so much for your very extensive reply. Yes, I must admit I didn't give enough details abou my problems. I was in a bit of a hurry as I had several other things to be done. First, about the mouse keys. Sometimes when I am on the desktop or in my user folder, moving the mouse with the mouse keys does not read anything. If I try to read current icon or line, or if I move the mouse up or down or left to right or the other way, WE just says "blank". lefgt or right clicking on what I think should be the icon or folder I moved the mouse to does have some effect. This can also happen when I am in WLM. Sometimes, however, the mouse keys move as expected. Trouble is, I don't know when and why this happens. Restarting WE or restarting the computer does not solve the problem when the mouse keys do not work. I only noticed this strange behaviour a few days ago. I was not messking around with any settings at the time but had just started my computer. Whether the moue keys areworking or not, WE may just start parts of the screen I am not interested in. As for backing up, I don't know how to back up my C drive but I have a copy of my WE Defult folder and I have all my data files backed up. I am not very good at writing batch files, especially for Windows, so would be very glad to have your batch file which you mentioned. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:15 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Your mouse keys do not work as expected? Sorry to hear that. Yet, I am afraid i do not know what exactly you mean. Is it something going on in all applications, or is it only (at least mainly) happening in some particular piece of software.? Are you aware when it all started, and if so, do you have a clue what you did just prior to this behavior taking place? Reason I am assking, is that it might point us in the direction of picking up a solution for you. In case you have made any updates, played around with some settings, or installed some extra software or apps - it might be a place to start helping you out. Could you explain, please, what it is you expect, and what does not work? It has been a known fact, that the mouse sometimes gets stuck in a position on the screen. Usually this would mean one of the corners. And why this happens might have as many answers as there are questions. Still, whenever something show up in that posistion - like some status message, for instance - WinEyes will read it out to you. That is because the screen reader is doing its job, however strange that might sound. See, the screen reader is such constructed, that it will keep an eye on your screen, and let you know whenever some info shows up, in places that you tell is of special interest. Placing your mouse, is one way of telling the screen reader to watch out for updated info. Now, if your mouse runs over and dig itself a new hole, wherever on your screen, the screen reader will track the mouse, and determine that likely you enjoy to have it chattering everything that the mouse "sniffs" in its stuck position. No, I am not trying to be jokie. This is the real fact. The big issue, and main solution, will be to have the mouse dragged loose from its stubborn place, and tell it to behave like good tiny mice are supposed to. Exactly why your mouse misbehaves, will be the thing we need to guess and play around. Are you on a desktop, or a laptop computer? If on a laptop, could it be that you accidentially are activating the touchpad when operating the computer. Some computers can turn off the touchpad, and if that is the case with yours, you might have ended up turning it back on - meaning that every time you place your hands on the laptop, you are in the risk of swiping the sensors of the pad, and the mouse will run like as if you had let the cat into the room. Solutions then, could be to make sure to deactivate the touchpad, a
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
ee of menu choices, focus Keyboard. Open it by hitting the Right Arrow. Now scroll down to the last of the choices, which should say something like Keyboard Layout. Use your tab-key once. In the list, choose Window-Eyes Default. Again tab once, and hit Enter on the button that says Activate Layout. Since your screen reader behaves OK in some cases, I hold this keyboard layout very little likely, but still does not hurt to make sure things are rightfully set up. Feel free to get back with your findings, and let the community know if you still have no luck. Unfortunately, I have seen certain cases when a popup blocked screen reader activity, and there was no other way than to have two eyes interact. HP systems did have a tendency on this, when they performed updates to the system dependent software. But don't despair all yet, a few more workarounds could be tried, if the issue proves to be a popup. First let's discern if that is the case. As for my backup script, I will get it ready for you. I wrote it for my own usage, numerous years ago. I'll brush it up, write a quick little get-started guide, and send it over to you. Might take a week's time, but i'll keep it in mind. Smiles. And in case you co't own NVDA, get it free from: nvda-project.org David On 2/27/2020 5:09 AM, peter Chin wrote: > Hello David, > > Thank you so much for your very extensive reply. Yes, I must admit I > didn't give enough details abou my problems. I was in a bit of a hurry > as I had several other things to be done. > > First, about the mouse keys. Sometimes when I am on the desktop or in > my user folder, moving the mouse with the mouse keys does not read > anything. If I try to read current icon or line, or if I move the > mouse up or down or left to right or the other way, WE just says > "blank". lefgt or right clicking on what I think should be the icon or > folder I moved the mouse to does have some effect. This can also > happen when I am in WLM. Sometimes, however, the mouse keys move as > expected. Trouble is, I don't know when and why this happens. > Restarting WE or restarting the computer does not solve the problem > when the mouse keys do not work. I only noticed this strange behaviour > a few days ago. I was not messking around with any settings at the > time but had just started my computer. Whether the moue keys > areworking or not, WE may just start parts of the screen I am not > interested in. > > As for backing up, I don't know how to back up my C drive but I have a > copy of my WE Defult folder and I have all my data files backed up. I > am not very good at writing batch files, especially for Windows, so > would be very glad to have your batch file which you mentioned. > > Thanks in advance. > > > -Original Message- From: David > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:15 PM > To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > Your mouse keys do not work as expected? Sorry to hear that. Yet, I am > afraid i do not know what exactly you mean. Is it something going on in > all applications, or is it only (at least mainly) happening in some > particular piece of software.? Are you aware when it all started, and if > so, do you have a clue what you did just prior to this behavior taking > place? > > Reason I am assking, is that it might point us in the direction of > picking up a solution for you. In case you have made any updates, played > around with some settings, or installed some extra software or apps - it > might be a place to start helping you out. Could you explain, please, > what it is you expect, and what does not work? > > It has been a known fact, that the mouse sometimes gets stuck in a > position on the screen. Usually this would mean one of the corners. And > why this happens might have as many answers as there are questions. > Still, whenever something show up in that posistion - like some status > message, for instance - WinEyes will read it out to you. That is because > the screen reader is doing its job, however strange that might sound. > See, the screen reader is such constructed, that it will keep an eye on > your screen, and let you know whenever some info shows up, in places > that you tell is of special interest. Placing your mouse, is one way of > telling the screen reader to watch out for updated info. Now, if your > mouse runs over and dig itself a new hole, wherever on your screen, the > screen reader will track the mouse, and determine that likely you enjoy > to have it chattering everything that the mouse "sniffs" in its stuck > position. No, I am not trying to be jokie. This is the real fact. The > big issue, and main solution, will be to have the mouse dragged loose &g
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Hello David, Thank you so much for your very extensive reply. Yes, I must admit I didn't give enough details abou my problems. I was in a bit of a hurry as I had several other things to be done. First, about the mouse keys. Sometimes when I am on the desktop or in my user folder, moving the mouse with the mouse keys does not read anything. If I try to read current icon or line, or if I move the mouse up or down or left to right or the other way, WE just says "blank". lefgt or right clicking on what I think should be the icon or folder I moved the mouse to does have some effect. This can also happen when I am in WLM. Sometimes, however, the mouse keys move as expected. Trouble is, I don't know when and why this happens. Restarting WE or restarting the computer does not solve the problem when the mouse keys do not work. I only noticed this strange behaviour a few days ago. I was not messking around with any settings at the time but had just started my computer. Whether the moue keys areworking or not, WE may just start parts of the screen I am not interested in. As for backing up, I don't know how to back up my C drive but I have a copy of my WE Defult folder and I have all my data files backed up. I am not very good at writing batch files, especially for Windows, so would be very glad to have your batch file which you mentioned. Thanks in advance. -Original Message- From: David Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:15 PM To: peter Chin ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Your mouse keys do not work as expected? Sorry to hear that. Yet, I am afraid i do not know what exactly you mean. Is it something going on in all applications, or is it only (at least mainly) happening in some particular piece of software.? Are you aware when it all started, and if so, do you have a clue what you did just prior to this behavior taking place? Reason I am assking, is that it might point us in the direction of picking up a solution for you. In case you have made any updates, played around with some settings, or installed some extra software or apps - it might be a place to start helping you out. Could you explain, please, what it is you expect, and what does not work? It has been a known fact, that the mouse sometimes gets stuck in a position on the screen. Usually this would mean one of the corners. And why this happens might have as many answers as there are questions. Still, whenever something show up in that posistion - like some status message, for instance - WinEyes will read it out to you. That is because the screen reader is doing its job, however strange that might sound. See, the screen reader is such constructed, that it will keep an eye on your screen, and let you know whenever some info shows up, in places that you tell is of special interest. Placing your mouse, is one way of telling the screen reader to watch out for updated info. Now, if your mouse runs over and dig itself a new hole, wherever on your screen, the screen reader will track the mouse, and determine that likely you enjoy to have it chattering everything that the mouse "sniffs" in its stuck position. No, I am not trying to be jokie. This is the real fact. The big issue, and main solution, will be to have the mouse dragged loose from its stubborn place, and tell it to behave like good tiny mice are supposed to. Exactly why your mouse misbehaves, will be the thing we need to guess and play around. Are you on a desktop, or a laptop computer? If on a laptop, could it be that you accidentially are activating the touchpad when operating the computer. Some computers can turn off the touchpad, and if that is the case with yours, you might have ended up turning it back on - meaning that every time you place your hands on the laptop, you are in the risk of swiping the sensors of the pad, and the mouse will run like as if you had let the cat into the room. Solutions then, could be to make sure to deactivate the touchpad, adjust the sensitivity, or whatever features your computer offers you. Or, simply connect a USB mouse, and hide it in the very rear of your desk, that you don't ever get in touch with it. Do you have the habit of once in a while backing up your system? or at least the WinEyes profile folder? If so, probably one quick fix would be to simply copy your backup into the profile folder - thereby rolling your screen reader back to a point of well-behaving. If you do not own a bakup hard drive, there are a few suggestions for regularly being able to back up your screen reader profile, along with other personal files and settings. First of all, the WinEyes folder usually do not get very big. So even a cheap memory card of any size from 1GB and up, will suffice. That is, if your computer has a memory card slot. Otherwise, USB pen drives, again from 1GB and up, will be something to consider. Dig deep in your desk drawer, and see if you ha
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
omatically will keep track of any changes. For one, Casper will be a choice to consider. Good thing about such solution, is that you can back up your whole system. even the Operativ System. Have used it a good deal, and benefitted from it at the latest this last week, when my system got screwed up, and I could simply swap disks, and be up running in no time. OK, long message, and not sure it helped you much. But to be of more assistance, I think we need to know more specifically what is your issue, in its details. David On 2/26/2020 8:23 AM, peter Chin wrote: > es, the Window-Eyes for office still works for Windows 8.1 which I am > using. However, within the last few days it has been behaving > strangely. My mouse keys don't work properly and Window_eyes keeps > reading other parts of the screen, especially the areas where the > mouse is sitting. Any suggestions as to how to resolve the problem > will be much appreciated. > -Original Message- From: David via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:12 AM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: David > Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > Interesting. I just had a quick look. Going to > > gwmicro.com > > It sure looked like the site is still up. Yet, I did find nowhere to > download anything but some tutorials, and a number of videos. Well, and > then the App Central. Why I still wonder exactly which website the > assumed demo version would have been attempted downloaded from. > > If the user still knows the address where the download was attempted, > either retry the download and see if the file comes out with a more > trusty size, or try search the net for another download. Of course, > someone might have a demo sitting around, Does the Office version even > work any longer? Or is all that lane closed, after the cooperation > discontinued? I did not have any demos here, only my purchased versions. > > David > > On 2/25/2020 12:53 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: >> Actually the website is still online and it says 2020 AI Squared. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:46 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Loy Green >> Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes >> >> That site has not been active for a couple of years since Freedom > Scientific >> purchased ZoomText and Window Eyes. >> Window Eyes is no longer available unless you get it from a former >> user.- Original Message - >> From: "Armando Vias via Talk" >> To: >> Cc: "Armando Vias" >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM >> Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes >> >> >>> Hey all. >>> >>> This is my first post. >>> >>> For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says > that it >>> is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is >>> corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? >>> >>> Armando >>> >>> >>> — >>> Armando Vias >>> Owner of The Blind Advocate Network >>> Website: https://theblindadvocate.net >>> Phone: (404) 4803436 >>> Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net >>> Like my page on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork >>> Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn >>> “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > > >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. > >> For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-win
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es, the Window-Eyes for office still works for Windows 8.1 which I am using. However, within the last few days it has been behaving strangely. My mouse keys don't work properly and Window_eyes keeps reading other parts of the screen, especially the areas where the mouse is sitting. Any suggestions as to how to resolve the problem will be much appreciated. -Original Message- From: David via Talk Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:12 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Interesting. I just had a quick look. Going to gwmicro.com It sure looked like the site is still up. Yet, I did find nowhere to download anything but some tutorials, and a number of videos. Well, and then the App Central. Why I still wonder exactly which website the assumed demo version would have been attempted downloaded from. If the user still knows the address where the download was attempted, either retry the download and see if the file comes out with a more trusty size, or try search the net for another download. Of course, someone might have a demo sitting around, Does the Office version even work any longer? Or is all that lane closed, after the cooperation discontinued? I did not have any demos here, only my purchased versions. David On 2/25/2020 12:53 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: Actually the website is still online and it says 2020 AI Squared. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:46 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Green Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes That site has not been active for a couple of years since Freedom Scientific purchased ZoomText and Window Eyes. Window Eyes is no longer available unless you get it from a former user.- Original Message - From: "Armando Vias via Talk" To: Cc: "Armando Vias" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Hey all. This is my first post. For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? Armando — Armando Vias Owner of The Blind Advocate Network Website: https://theblindadvocate.net Phone: (404) 4803436 Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/peter.chinpk%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-
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Below is a link I found that you are supposed to be able to download a demo copy, I went there and clicked on the download link and Windows blocked the download, said it would damage computer. http://gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Demo/ - Original Message - From: "David via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "David" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Interesting. I just had a quick look. Going to gwmicro.com It sure looked like the site is still up. Yet, I did find nowhere to download anything but some tutorials, and a number of videos. Well, and then the App Central. Why I still wonder exactly which website the assumed demo version would have been attempted downloaded from. If the user still knows the address where the download was attempted, either retry the download and see if the file comes out with a more trusty size, or try search the net for another download. Of course, someone might have a demo sitting around, Does the Office version even work any longer? Or is all that lane closed, after the cooperation discontinued? I did not have any demos here, only my purchased versions. David On 2/25/2020 12:53 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: > Actually the website is still online and it says 2020 AI Squared. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:46 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Loy Green > Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > That site has not been active for a couple of years since Freedom Scientific > purchased ZoomText and Window Eyes. > Window Eyes is no longer available unless you get it from a former > user.- Original Message - > From: "Armando Vias via Talk" > To: > Cc: "Armando Vias" > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM > Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > >> Hey all. >> >> This is my first post. >> >> For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it >> is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is >> corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? >> >> Armando >> >> >> — >> Armando Vias >> Owner of The Blind Advocate Network >> Website: https://theblindadvocate.net >> Phone: (404) 4803436 >> Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net >> Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork >> Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn >> “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in
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Sadly. There isn't -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Armando Vias via Talk Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 4:09 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Armando Vias Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Is there a website that I can download a copy of the Window Eyes before it was discontinued? — Armando Vias Owner of The Blind Advocate Network Website: https://theblindadvocate.net Phone: (404) 4803436 Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” > On Feb 24, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk > wrote: > > Hello David. Yes the Window-Eyes for office deal did have the certification > fix. I think he is interested to see what Window-Eyes was like. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf > Of David via Talk > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:33 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: David > Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > Most definitely, it will be corrupted. The WinEyes distribution used to > take up most of a CDROM. Even this yesterday, I was tiding up my > computer, and came across the installation download for the screen > reader. It is actually more like 600MB, or just over half a Gigabyte. > > > What I do wonder, is if the 83 bytes you downloaded, might be just the > link to some place on the net, holding an old demo version of the file. > If you tried to rename the download of yours, to something ending in > .txt, maybe you could open it and see if such is the case. My next > guess, and probably the most believable, is that the servers now have > been loaded with fake links. That is, they may have deleted the actual > files from the servers, and replaced it with some short goble. Seen that > happen before. > > > True, GW Micro, the originator of the screen reader, used to offer a > 30minute demo version. In its basics, it used to be a fully functioning > version of the screen reader, which would have needed a purchased key to > unlock the time limitation. You could run it completely as normal, just > had to restart the computer every 30 minutes. As a matter of fact, that > is how I got in touch with WinEyes bak in the days. > > > Now, you say you got your download from the "place where they offered > it". I just wonder if you then mean, from the original WinEyes homepage, > or was it from the WinEyes For Office website. WinEyes for Office was a > cooperation between GW Micro, and Microsoft - and has been discontinued > for the last couple of years. Likely, if you try downloading that > version, you will find little help. To what extend there will be any > demo left on the original homepage of the screen reader, I am not aware. > After all, why would they, since the screen reader was discontinued back > in 2017. Of course, you might search the net for something like: > > Window-Eyes download Demo > > and see if someone would happen to have something lingering on their > server. Or, maybe some listers will happen to have some demo hanging > around. But due to the fact you are running Win10, it will have to be > one of the latest version, otherwise it will not work. Besides, just > prior to discontinuing the whole product, they released an update that > took care of some certification issue with newer flavors of the Operativ > System. So really not sure an old demo will even run on computers now > aday. And I do not know if they ever released any demo with the new > certificate, since the product practically already was out of business. > Did the WinEyes for Office come with the new certificate? Question for > those of you who ran that version. > > > Sorry I could not help you, but at least that is something to chew on. > Hope others might have something hanging around on their hard drive, > that could give you a try-go with the screen reader. Do you mind me > asking, why would you like to test the screen reader? Id there anything > in particular you are looking for? > > > David > >> On 2/25/2020 12:01 AM, Armando Vias via Talk wrote: >> I got it from the website. It was the website that you usually get the >> window eyes software. I would like to try it out. >> >> — >> Armando Vias >> Owner of The Blind Advocate Network >> Website: https://theblindadvocate.net >> Phone: (404) 4803436 >> Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net >> Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork >> Tw
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Interesting. I just had a quick look. Going to gwmicro.com It sure looked like the site is still up. Yet, I did find nowhere to download anything but some tutorials, and a number of videos. Well, and then the App Central. Why I still wonder exactly which website the assumed demo version would have been attempted downloaded from. If the user still knows the address where the download was attempted, either retry the download and see if the file comes out with a more trusty size, or try search the net for another download. Of course, someone might have a demo sitting around, Does the Office version even work any longer? Or is all that lane closed, after the cooperation discontinued? I did not have any demos here, only my purchased versions. David On 2/25/2020 12:53 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: > Actually the website is still online and it says 2020 AI Squared. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:46 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Loy Green > Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > That site has not been active for a couple of years since Freedom Scientific > purchased ZoomText and Window Eyes. > Window Eyes is no longer available unless you get it from a former > user.- Original Message - > From: "Armando Vias via Talk" > To: > Cc: "Armando Vias" > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM > Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > >> Hey all. >> >> This is my first post. >> >> For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it >> is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is >> corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? >> >> Armando >> >> >> — >> Armando Vias >> Owner of The Blind Advocate Network >> Website: https://theblindadvocate.net >> Phone: (404) 4803436 >> Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net >> Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork >> Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn >> “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Most of the download links are not active. - Original Message - From: "Sky Mundell via Talk" To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'" Cc: "Sky Mundell" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 6:53 PM Subject: RE: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Actually the website is still online and it says 2020 AI Squared. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:46 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Green Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes That site has not been active for a couple of years since Freedom Scientific purchased ZoomText and Window Eyes. Window Eyes is no longer available unless you get it from a former user.- Original Message - From: "Armando Vias via Talk" To: Cc: "Armando Vias" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Hey all. This is my first post. For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? Armando — Armando Vias Owner of The Blind Advocate Network Website: https://theblindadvocate.net Phone: (404) 4803436 Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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Is there a website that I can download a copy of the Window Eyes before it was discontinued? — Armando Vias Owner of The Blind Advocate Network Website: https://theblindadvocate.net Phone: (404) 4803436 Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” > On Feb 24, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk > wrote: > > Hello David. Yes the Window-Eyes for office deal did have the certification > fix. I think he is interested to see what Window-Eyes was like. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf > Of David via Talk > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:33 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: David > Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > Most definitely, it will be corrupted. The WinEyes distribution used to > take up most of a CDROM. Even this yesterday, I was tiding up my > computer, and came across the installation download for the screen > reader. It is actually more like 600MB, or just over half a Gigabyte. > > > What I do wonder, is if the 83 bytes you downloaded, might be just the > link to some place on the net, holding an old demo version of the file. > If you tried to rename the download of yours, to something ending in > .txt, maybe you could open it and see if such is the case. My next > guess, and probably the most believable, is that the servers now have > been loaded with fake links. That is, they may have deleted the actual > files from the servers, and replaced it with some short goble. Seen that > happen before. > > > True, GW Micro, the originator of the screen reader, used to offer a > 30minute demo version. In its basics, it used to be a fully functioning > version of the screen reader, which would have needed a purchased key to > unlock the time limitation. You could run it completely as normal, just > had to restart the computer every 30 minutes. As a matter of fact, that > is how I got in touch with WinEyes bak in the days. > > > Now, you say you got your download from the "place where they offered > it". I just wonder if you then mean, from the original WinEyes homepage, > or was it from the WinEyes For Office website. WinEyes for Office was a > cooperation between GW Micro, and Microsoft - and has been discontinued > for the last couple of years. Likely, if you try downloading that > version, you will find little help. To what extend there will be any > demo left on the original homepage of the screen reader, I am not aware. > After all, why would they, since the screen reader was discontinued back > in 2017. Of course, you might search the net for something like: > > Window-Eyes download Demo > > and see if someone would happen to have something lingering on their > server. Or, maybe some listers will happen to have some demo hanging > around. But due to the fact you are running Win10, it will have to be > one of the latest version, otherwise it will not work. Besides, just > prior to discontinuing the whole product, they released an update that > took care of some certification issue with newer flavors of the Operativ > System. So really not sure an old demo will even run on computers now > aday. And I do not know if they ever released any demo with the new > certificate, since the product practically already was out of business. > Did the WinEyes for Office come with the new certificate? Question for > those of you who ran that version. > > > Sorry I could not help you, but at least that is something to chew on. > Hope others might have something hanging around on their hard drive, > that could give you a try-go with the screen reader. Do you mind me > asking, why would you like to test the screen reader? Id there anything > in particular you are looking for? > > > David > >> On 2/25/2020 12:01 AM, Armando Vias via Talk wrote: >> I got it from the website. It was the website that you usually get the >> window eyes software. I would like to try it out. >> >> — >> Armando Vias >> Owner of The Blind Advocate Network >> Website: https://theblindadvocate.net >> Phone: (404) 4803436 >> Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net >> Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork >> Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn >> “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” >> >>>> On Feb 24, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Whatever it is, it must be corrupted, because it
RE: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Hello David. Yes the Window-Eyes for office deal did have the certification fix. I think he is interested to see what Window-Eyes was like. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:33 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: David Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Most definitely, it will be corrupted. The WinEyes distribution used to take up most of a CDROM. Even this yesterday, I was tiding up my computer, and came across the installation download for the screen reader. It is actually more like 600MB, or just over half a Gigabyte. What I do wonder, is if the 83 bytes you downloaded, might be just the link to some place on the net, holding an old demo version of the file. If you tried to rename the download of yours, to something ending in .txt, maybe you could open it and see if such is the case. My next guess, and probably the most believable, is that the servers now have been loaded with fake links. That is, they may have deleted the actual files from the servers, and replaced it with some short goble. Seen that happen before. True, GW Micro, the originator of the screen reader, used to offer a 30minute demo version. In its basics, it used to be a fully functioning version of the screen reader, which would have needed a purchased key to unlock the time limitation. You could run it completely as normal, just had to restart the computer every 30 minutes. As a matter of fact, that is how I got in touch with WinEyes bak in the days. Now, you say you got your download from the "place where they offered it". I just wonder if you then mean, from the original WinEyes homepage, or was it from the WinEyes For Office website. WinEyes for Office was a cooperation between GW Micro, and Microsoft - and has been discontinued for the last couple of years. Likely, if you try downloading that version, you will find little help. To what extend there will be any demo left on the original homepage of the screen reader, I am not aware. After all, why would they, since the screen reader was discontinued back in 2017. Of course, you might search the net for something like: Window-Eyes download Demo and see if someone would happen to have something lingering on their server. Or, maybe some listers will happen to have some demo hanging around. But due to the fact you are running Win10, it will have to be one of the latest version, otherwise it will not work. Besides, just prior to discontinuing the whole product, they released an update that took care of some certification issue with newer flavors of the Operativ System. So really not sure an old demo will even run on computers now aday. And I do not know if they ever released any demo with the new certificate, since the product practically already was out of business. Did the WinEyes for Office come with the new certificate? Question for those of you who ran that version. Sorry I could not help you, but at least that is something to chew on. Hope others might have something hanging around on their hard drive, that could give you a try-go with the screen reader. Do you mind me asking, why would you like to test the screen reader? Id there anything in particular you are looking for? David On 2/25/2020 12:01 AM, Armando Vias via Talk wrote: > I got it from the website. It was the website that you usually get the window > eyes software. I would like to try it out. > > — > Armando Vias > Owner of The Blind Advocate Network > Website: https://theblindadvocate.net > Phone: (404) 4803436 > Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net > Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn > “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” > >> On Feb 24, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk >> wrote: >> >> Whatever it is, it must be corrupted, because it would have to be more than >> 83 bytes. Where did you get it from, now that there is no more window eyes? >> Pam. >> >> -Original Message- From: Armando Vias via Talk >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM >> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >> Cc: Armando Vias >> Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes >> >> Hey all. >> >> This is my first post. >> >> For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it is >> 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is corrupted. I >> am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? >> >> Armando >> >> >> — >> Armando Vias >> Owner of The Blind Advocate Network >> Website: https://theblindadvocate.net >> Pho
RE: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Actually the website is still online and it says 2020 AI Squared. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Loy Green via Talk Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 3:46 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Green Subject: Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes That site has not been active for a couple of years since Freedom Scientific purchased ZoomText and Window Eyes. Window Eyes is no longer available unless you get it from a former user.- Original Message - From: "Armando Vias via Talk" To: Cc: "Armando Vias" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > Hey all. > > This is my first post. > > For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it > is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is > corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? > > Armando > > > — > Armando Vias > Owner of The Blind Advocate Network > Website: https://theblindadvocate.net > Phone: (404) 4803436 > Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net > Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn > “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
That site has not been active for a couple of years since Freedom Scientific purchased ZoomText and Window Eyes. Window Eyes is no longer available unless you get it from a former user.- Original Message - From: "Armando Vias via Talk" To: Cc: "Armando Vias" Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Hey all. This is my first post. For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? Armando — Armando Vias Owner of The Blind Advocate Network Website: https://theblindadvocate.net Phone: (404) 4803436 Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/loyrg2845%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Most definitely, it will be corrupted. The WinEyes distribution used to take up most of a CDROM. Even this yesterday, I was tiding up my computer, and came across the installation download for the screen reader. It is actually more like 600MB, or just over half a Gigabyte. What I do wonder, is if the 83 bytes you downloaded, might be just the link to some place on the net, holding an old demo version of the file. If you tried to rename the download of yours, to something ending in .txt, maybe you could open it and see if such is the case. My next guess, and probably the most believable, is that the servers now have been loaded with fake links. That is, they may have deleted the actual files from the servers, and replaced it with some short goble. Seen that happen before. True, GW Micro, the originator of the screen reader, used to offer a 30minute demo version. In its basics, it used to be a fully functioning version of the screen reader, which would have needed a purchased key to unlock the time limitation. You could run it completely as normal, just had to restart the computer every 30 minutes. As a matter of fact, that is how I got in touch with WinEyes bak in the days. Now, you say you got your download from the "place where they offered it". I just wonder if you then mean, from the original WinEyes homepage, or was it from the WinEyes For Office website. WinEyes for Office was a cooperation between GW Micro, and Microsoft - and has been discontinued for the last couple of years. Likely, if you try downloading that version, you will find little help. To what extend there will be any demo left on the original homepage of the screen reader, I am not aware. After all, why would they, since the screen reader was discontinued back in 2017. Of course, you might search the net for something like: Window-Eyes download Demo and see if someone would happen to have something lingering on their server. Or, maybe some listers will happen to have some demo hanging around. But due to the fact you are running Win10, it will have to be one of the latest version, otherwise it will not work. Besides, just prior to discontinuing the whole product, they released an update that took care of some certification issue with newer flavors of the Operativ System. So really not sure an old demo will even run on computers now aday. And I do not know if they ever released any demo with the new certificate, since the product practically already was out of business. Did the WinEyes for Office come with the new certificate? Question for those of you who ran that version. Sorry I could not help you, but at least that is something to chew on. Hope others might have something hanging around on their hard drive, that could give you a try-go with the screen reader. Do you mind me asking, why would you like to test the screen reader? Id there anything in particular you are looking for? David On 2/25/2020 12:01 AM, Armando Vias via Talk wrote: > I got it from the website. It was the website that you usually get the window > eyes software. I would like to try it out. > > — > Armando Vias > Owner of The Blind Advocate Network > Website: https://theblindadvocate.net > Phone: (404) 4803436 > Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net > Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn > “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” > >> On Feb 24, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk >> wrote: >> >> Whatever it is, it must be corrupted, because it would have to be more than >> 83 bytes. Where did you get it from, now that there is no more window eyes? >> Pam. >> >> -Original Message- From: Armando Vias via Talk >> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM >> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com >> Cc: Armando Vias >> Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes >> >> Hey all. >> >> This is my first post. >> >> For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it is >> 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is corrupted. I >> am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? >> >> Armando >> >> >> — >> Armando Vias >> Owner of The Blind Advocate Network >> Website: https://theblindadvocate.net >> Phone: (404) 4803436 >> Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net >> Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork >> Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn >> “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Sq
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
I got it from the website. It was the website that you usually get the window eyes software. I would like to try it out. — Armando Vias Owner of The Blind Advocate Network Website: https://theblindadvocate.net Phone: (404) 4803436 Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” > On Feb 24, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk > wrote: > > Whatever it is, it must be corrupted, because it would have to be more than > 83 bytes. Where did you get it from, now that there is no more window eyes? > Pam. > > -Original Message- From: Armando Vias via Talk > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com > Cc: Armando Vias > Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes > > Hey all. > > This is my first post. > > For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it is > 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is corrupted. I > am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? > > Armando > > > — > Armando Vias > Owner of The Blind Advocate Network > Website: https://theblindadvocate.net > Phone: (404) 4803436 > Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net > Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork > Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn > “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pammygirl99%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/avias%40theblindadvocate.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Whatever it is, it must be corrupted, because it would have to be more than 83 bytes. Where did you get it from, now that there is no more window eyes? Pam. -Original Message- From: Armando Vias via Talk Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 5:19 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Armando Vias Subject: Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes Hey all. This is my first post. For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? Armando — Armando Vias Owner of The Blind Advocate Network Website: https://theblindadvocate.net Phone: (404) 4803436 Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/pammygirl99%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Can’t Install Free Trial of Window Eyes
Hey all. This is my first post. For some reason, I can’t install the Window Eyes Program. It says that it is 83 bytes. When I try to install it, my computer says that it is corrupted. I am using a 64-bit version of Windows 10. What should I do? Armando — Armando Vias Owner of The Blind Advocate Network Website: https://theblindadvocate.net Phone: (404) 4803436 Email: av...@theblindadvocate.net Like my page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theblindadvocatenetwork Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/theblndadvn “Getting advocacy results for the blind.” ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
