RE: MS Office question

2019-07-02 Thread Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Olusegun,
I went on eBay last night and typed in "Office 2016 Professional", which is 
what I had done previously.  I did not see the exact same link that I had used 
to purchase mine, but did see several others.  I looked for one with a higher 
rating.   The seller name on my receipt is "sansell88", but entering that into 
the search bar yielded no results, so I'm not sure if I can find the link that 
way.  

As I noted earlier, I was a bit chicken about doing this; I don't want to think 
I've bought a pirate version.  I got a email from the seller with the product 
key.  At first the key did not work, but I had instructions on how to call in 
to authorize my copy.  I did have some gymnastics with JAWS and using JAWS 
history to access the product ID number that I needed to enter.  Then I got 
this really, really long ID code back from Microsoft.  After entering it, my 
copy of Office is up and running.  
 
Robin

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From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 2:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. 
Subject: RE: MS Office question

Yes, Robin, the BeMyEyes works everywhere where there's enough data to hit the 
Internet.  It's a great app, only works on a smart toy though.  Could you 
please possibly post the eBay link you used for grabbing a copy of Office?  
Thanks a ton if you can!

Yes, Rod, a call to Microsoft Accessibility should be free because of the 
800-number.  However, there are countries that DO NOT have TOLL-FREE numbers.  
In that wise, I'm not even sure if their calls would get through unless 
something else has changed.  I think there shouldn't be any problems with calls 
originating from the U.K., Australia the Caribbeans, and parts of Mexico.  
Sorry, I excluded Canada because the phone system there is pretty much the same 
with that of the United States. 

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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Re: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread peter Chin via Talk

Hello David,

As far as I know, any home or professional (which I presume would include 
Business) version of Ms Office from 2007 onwards should entitle you to 
Window-Eyes freed version. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. However, 
make sure that your Ms Office is properly  registered. My computer 
technician did the registration  for me so I can't tell you the steps.


Good luck.

-Original Message- 
From: David via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 4:34 AM
To: WE English Mailinglist
Cc: David
Subject: MS Office question

Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?


I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save
a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer
here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about
their titles.


One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am
neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states
Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version
that I should look out for?


They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support
for that version, or maybe they have already done so?


Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone
happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess
NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes
functionality.


Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really
don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know
what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft
decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have
to spend days in figuring your way around the new features.


Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And
please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression
the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am
mistaken, I'd be glad to know.


--
David

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RE: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Yes, Robin, the BeMyEyes works everywhere where there's enough data to hit
the Internet.  It's a great app, only works on a smart toy though.  Could
you please possibly post the eBay link you used for grabbing a copy of
Office?  Thanks a ton if you can!

Yes, Rod, a call to Microsoft Accessibility should be free because of the
800-number.  However, there are countries that DO NOT have TOLL-FREE
numbers.  In that wise, I'm not even sure if their calls would get through
unless something else has changed.  I think there shouldn't be any problems
with calls originating from the U.K., Australia the Caribbeans, and parts of
Mexico.  Sorry, I excluded Canada because the phone system there is pretty
much the same with that of the United States. 

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado

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RE: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Robin,

Perhaps I'm sounding like a broken record, but I am running WE 9.5.4 with 
Office 365, namely, the current version of Office, and am having no noticeable 
accessibility issues.
I use Outlook, Word, and Excel, regularly.

Hth,

Rod

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From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Talk
Sent: July 1, 2019 12:16 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Van Lant, Robin 
Subject: RE: MS Office question

David,
I just bought a copy of Office 2016 Professional on eBay for   10 US dollars.  
I am sure I also saw copies of Office 2010.  The Home and Student one is 
technically for students, despite the name.  I'm not sure what the Home and 
Business one is.  When I was looking at buying the subscription or a license of 
Office 2019, it seemed that Home and Business was a more costly option.  As a 
home user, the version I kept getting pointed to on Microsoft's site is the 
Office Professional Plus.   So, when I bought my Office 2016 license, I 
purchased Office 2016 Professional Plus.   This gives me a license for one 
computer without a subscription and includes all key programs, including 
Outlook and a terabyte of storage on OneDrive.  

I have switched fully to using JAWS now, so I cannot speak to the accessibility 
of Window Eyes and Office 2016.  However, if you think about it, Office 2016 
was already out when Window Eyes support stopped, so I would think it would 
work.  I would not go to Office 2019, as I don't know how much different it 
might be and if, therefore, Window Eyes would have issues. 

Regardless, for only 10 US dollars, I figured that the investment was really 
inexpensive.  I was more worried about fraud, having never bought on eBay 
before, but the same could be true if you purchase Office 2016 and find it has 
issues with Window Eyes. You could move backward and purchase another cheap 
copy of Office 2010 or Office 2013.  Better to get the most recent copy of 
Office you think works with Window Eyes though, so that you are as caught up as 
possible. 


Robin Van Lant, Robin


 

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 2:34 PM
To: WE English Mailinglist 
Cc: David 
Subject: MS Office question

Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?


I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few 
dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for 
unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles.


One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am 
neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will 
it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look 
out for?


They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for 
that version, or maybe they have already done so?


Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone happen 
to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws 
are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes functionality.


Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really don't 
want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know what you've 
got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft decides to change 
something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have to spend days in figuring 
your way around the new features.


Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And 
please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression the 
Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am mistaken, I'd 
be glad to know.


--
David

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Re: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread RichardPetty via Talk
I understand spellcheck will not work in office 2016 with we.— latest version

Richard Petty
Dictated to and sent from my iPhone
Please excuse dictation errors

> On Jul 1, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Van Lant, Robin via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> David,
> I just bought a copy of Office 2016 Professional on eBay for   10 US dollars. 
>  I am sure I also saw copies of Office 2010.  The Home and Student one is 
> technically for students, despite the name.  I'm not sure what the Home and 
> Business one is.  When I was looking at buying the subscription or a license 
> of Office 2019, it seemed that Home and Business was a more costly option.  
> As a home user, the version I kept getting pointed to on Microsoft's site is 
> the Office Professional Plus.   So, when I bought my Office 2016 license, I 
> purchased Office 2016 Professional Plus.   This gives me a license for one 
> computer without a subscription and includes all key programs, including 
> Outlook and a terabyte of storage on OneDrive.  
> 
> I have switched fully to using JAWS now, so I cannot speak to the 
> accessibility of Window Eyes and Office 2016.  However, if you think about 
> it, Office 2016 was already out when Window Eyes support stopped, so I would 
> think it would work.  I would not go to Office 2019, as I don't know how much 
> different it might be and if, therefore, Window Eyes would have issues. 
> 
> Regardless, for only 10 US dollars, I figured that the investment was really 
> inexpensive.  I was more worried about fraud, having never bought on eBay 
> before, but the same could be true if you purchase Office 2016 and find it 
> has issues with Window Eyes. You could move backward and purchase another 
> cheap copy of Office 2010 or Office 2013.  Better to get the most recent copy 
> of Office you think works with Window Eyes though, so that you are as caught 
> up as possible. 
> 
> 
> Robin Van Lant, Robin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk  On 
> Behalf Of David via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 2:34 PM
> To: WE English Mailinglist 
> Cc: David 
> Subject: MS Office question
> 
> Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?
> 
> 
> I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a 
> few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for 
> unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles.
> 
> 
> One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am 
> neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, 
> will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should 
> look out for?
> 
> 
> They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for 
> that version, or maybe they have already done so?
> 
> 
> Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone 
> happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess 
> NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes 
> functionality.
> 
> 
> Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really 
> don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know 
> what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft 
> decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have 
> to spend days in figuring your way around the new features.
> 
> 
> Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And 
> please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression 
> the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am 
> mistaken, I'd be glad to know.
> 
> 
> -- 
> David
> 
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RE: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread Van Lant, Robin via Talk
David,
I just bought a copy of Office 2016 Professional on eBay for   10 US dollars.  
I am sure I also saw copies of Office 2010.  The Home and Student one is 
technically for students, despite the name.  I'm not sure what the Home and 
Business one is.  When I was looking at buying the subscription or a license of 
Office 2019, it seemed that Home and Business was a more costly option.  As a 
home user, the version I kept getting pointed to on Microsoft's site is the 
Office Professional Plus.   So, when I bought my Office 2016 license, I 
purchased Office 2016 Professional Plus.   This gives me a license for one 
computer without a subscription and includes all key programs, including 
Outlook and a terabyte of storage on OneDrive.  

I have switched fully to using JAWS now, so I cannot speak to the accessibility 
of Window Eyes and Office 2016.  However, if you think about it, Office 2016 
was already out when Window Eyes support stopped, so I would think it would 
work.  I would not go to Office 2019, as I don't know how much different it 
might be and if, therefore, Window Eyes would have issues. 

Regardless, for only 10 US dollars, I figured that the investment was really 
inexpensive.  I was more worried about fraud, having never bought on eBay 
before, but the same could be true if you purchase Office 2016 and find it has 
issues with Window Eyes. You could move backward and purchase another cheap 
copy of Office 2010 or Office 2013.  Better to get the most recent copy of 
Office you think works with Window Eyes though, so that you are as caught up as 
possible. 


Robin Van Lant, Robin


 

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 2:34 PM
To: WE English Mailinglist 
Cc: David 
Subject: MS Office question

Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?


I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few 
dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for 
unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles.


One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am 
neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will 
it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look 
out for?


They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for 
that version, or maybe they have already done so?


Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone 
happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess 
NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes 
functionality.


Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really 
don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know 
what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft 
decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have 
to spend days in figuring your way around the new features.


Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And 
please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression 
the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am 
mistaken, I'd be glad to know.


-- 
David

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Re: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

Hi Rod,

I assume all it means is that there will be no more bug fixes or 
security updates.


Regards,
Tom


On 7/1/2019 8:03 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Tom,

Forgive the nit-picking, but does this not simply mean that you won't be able 
to ask Microsoft any support questions about it, rather than saying that it 
will no longer run on Windows 10?

Humbly (smile),

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: July 1, 2019 7:59 AM
To: David via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: MS Office question

David,

I doubt very much that those copies of Office 2010 are legal. And with a quick 
search I just found a statement from Microsoft that all support for 2010 will 
end next year.

I have Office 365. I'm still running 2016 because it hasn't updated yet.
The only problem I have with Window-Eyes is with the spell checker. I began 
scripting a fix, but it works so well with NVDA I just go that route with 
Office.

Good luck,
Tom


On 6/30/2019 4:34 PM, David via Talk wrote:

Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?


I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might
save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some
offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused
about their titles.


One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I
am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states
Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version
that I should look out for?


They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end
support for that version, or maybe they have already done so?


Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would
someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with
WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose
WinEyes functionality.


Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I
really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and
you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year -
Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are
lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features.


Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition.
And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the
impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for
me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know.



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RE: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Tom,

Forgive the nit-picking, but does this not simply mean that you won't be able 
to ask Microsoft any support questions about it, rather than saying that it 
will no longer run on Windows 10?

Humbly (smile),

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: July 1, 2019 7:59 AM
To: David via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: MS Office question

David,

I doubt very much that those copies of Office 2010 are legal. And with a quick 
search I just found a statement from Microsoft that all support for 2010 will 
end next year.

I have Office 365. I'm still running 2016 because it hasn't updated yet. 
The only problem I have with Window-Eyes is with the spell checker. I began 
scripting a fix, but it works so well with NVDA I just go that route with 
Office.

Good luck,
Tom


On 6/30/2019 4:34 PM, David via Talk wrote:
> Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?
> 
> 
> I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might 
> save a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some 
> offer here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused 
> about their titles.
> 
> 
> One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I 
> am neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states 
> Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version 
> that I should look out for?
> 
> 
> They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end 
> support for that version, or maybe they have already done so?
> 
> 
> Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would 
> someone happen to know whether that version is accessible with 
> WinEyes? Guess NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose 
> WinEyes functionality.
> 
> 
> Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I 
> really don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and 
> you know what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - 
> Microsoft decides to change something, and all the sudden you are 
> lost, and have to spend days in figuring your way around the new features.
> 
> 
> Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. 
> And please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the 
> impression the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for 
> me. If I am mistaken, I'd be glad to know.
> 
> 
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Re: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk

David,

I doubt very much that those copies of Office 2010 are legal. And with a 
quick search I just found a statement from Microsoft that all support 
for 2010 will end next year.


I have Office 365. I'm still running 2016 because it hasn't updated yet. 
The only problem I have with Window-Eyes is with the spell checker. I 
began scripting a fix, but it works so well with NVDA I just go that 
route with Office.


Good luck,
Tom


On 6/30/2019 4:34 PM, David via Talk wrote:

Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?


I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save
a few dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer
here, for unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about
their titles.


One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am
neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states
Home, will it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version
that I should look out for?


They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support
for that version, or maybe they have already done so?


Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone
happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess
NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes
functionality.


Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really
don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know
what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft
decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have
to spend days in figuring your way around the new features.


Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And
please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression
the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am
mistaken, I'd be glad to know.



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RE: MS Office question

2019-07-01 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi David,

I won't trumpet too loudly my firm belief that Office 365 is the best way to 
go, and this is because Microsoft is improving the accessibility of Office at 
the same time that they are adding features.
The price of an ongoing single-user subscription is $6.99 per month and you get 
two months for free if you subscribe annually.
As for contacting the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk, the only issue I can 
see is that you have to be able to deal with the long-distance cost involved in 
calling the U.S. telephone number, which is 800-936-5900.
You could do a Skype out call and contact them that way.
Now, once you reach the line and get a human being, I cannot think of any 
reason why they would hang up on you just because you are outside North America.
I live in Canada, and they have never had an issue with my calling them.

Good luck,

Rod

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-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: June 30, 2019 4:34 PM
To: WE English Mailinglist 
Cc: David 
Subject: MS Office question

Anyone here has any experience, or know the rules?


I am trying to get hold of a copy of MS Office, and thought I might save a few 
dollars, on buying one of the former versions. Got some offer here, for 
unopened and fully licensed versions, but got confused about their titles.


One says Home and Student, the other reads Home and Business. Well, I am 
neither a student, nor a business owner. But since they both states Home, will 
it still be legal for me? Or, was there any other version that I should look 
out for?


They are both Office 2010. Anyone knows when Microsoft would end support for 
that version, or maybe they have already done so?


Finally, I got one more offer, this time for Office 2019. Would someone 
happen to know whether that version is accessible with WinEyes? Guess 
NVDA and Jaws are OK with 2019, but would hate to loose WinEyes 
functionality.


Allright, I do know of the subscription versions of Office, but I really 
don't want that kind of ongoing expenses. Rather pay once, and you know 
what you've got. Subscribe, and next month - or next year - Microsoft 
decides to change something, and all the sudden you are lost, and have 
to spend days in figuring your way around the new features.


Thanks for all feedback, that I can make the most informed decition. And 
please, since I am outside North-Americas, I was under the impression 
the Microsoft Assistance line would not be available for me. If I am 
mistaken, I'd be glad to know.


-- 
David

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