[Talk-de] Datenspende: amtliche Planungsdaten Küstenautobahn A20

[Joachim Kast]

Hallo,

die Niedersächsische Landesbehörde für Straßenbau und Verkehr stellt die
aktuellen Planungsdaten der Küstenautobahn A20 zur Verfügung. Die
Einzelheiten stehen im Wiki:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Planungsdaten_K%C3%BCstenautobahn_A20

Viele Grüße
Joachim

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[Talk-GB] Hashtagging schools project chagesets

[Bogus Zaba]

I have submitted nearly 80 changesets for schools in Denbighshire, but I
only used the #OSMSchools on about half of these (once I had left it off
one, I part-replicated the same non-hashtagged comment in subsequent
comments).

Is there any way to fix this? I believe that it is not possible to edit
changeset comments. Does it help to put it into the discussion on the
chageset?

Moving on to Flintshire next, paying more attention to my comments.

Bogus Zaba

-- 
Dr Bogumil N Zaba   


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[OSM-ja] 2/6 OpenStreetMap勉強会 「バス停編」

[yuu hayashi]

hayashiです。

’バスに詳しい人達’からの要望でバス停にテーマを絞ったOSM勉強会みたいなマッピングパーティを開きます。

リレーションの中でも難しいといわれる「バスルート」をハンズオンします。
現在、「バスマップサミット」筋の人たちが１０人以上参加することが見込まれています。
OSMマッパーからも、バス停やバス路線に興味のある方の参加をお待ちしています。

日時： ２月６日（土） 10:30-17:00
場所： 東京都杉並区高円寺北2-3-17 ヴァル研究所

下記URLから参加申し込みできます。
http://connpass.com/event/25921/
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Re: [OSM-co] Resumen de Talk-co, Vol 90, Envío 14

[claudia patricia arroyave]

El 23 de enero de 2016, 7:00,  escribió:

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> respuesta sólo aquellas partes del mensaje a las que está
> respondiendo.
>
>
> Asuntos del día:
>
>1. Mapeo Remoto #MapatónxGuajira (Artesano)
>2. Re: Mapeo Remoto #MapatónxGuajira (Bienvenido MARTINEZ MARTINEZ)
>
>
> --
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:23:02 -0500
> From: Artesano 
> To: OpenStreetMap Colombia 
> Subject: [OSM-co] Mapeo Remoto #MapatónxGuajira
> Message-ID:
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Re: [Talk-it] Cimiteri comunali

[Federico Cortese]

Il 22/gen/2016 21:33, "Daniele Gitto"  ha scritto:
>
> Il 22/01/2016 20:02, Marco_T ha scritto:
> > I cimiteri anche se gestiti dal comune, di solito, sono un luogo
consacrato
> > secondo un rito religioso
>
> Questa non la sapevo
>
Non la sapevo nemmeno io, infatti non ho mai aggiunto il religion=* ad un
cimitero, per quanto, a questo punto, credo si possa fare senza problemi.

Sul grave_yard, da quel che ricordo, dalla wiki si legge chiaramente che si
tratta di un piccolo cimitero annesso ad una chiesa, ben diverso dal
cimitero comunale. Quindi non mi sembra valido l'uso suggerito da Max.

Ciao
Federico
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[OSM-talk-fr] [Fun] OpenRandomMap

[PanierAvide]

Bonjour à tous,

Le projet OpenStreetMap regorge d'outils et de visualisations, souvent 
utiles, sur des thématiques bien variées. Citons pour exemple 
OpenBeerMap, OpenSolarMap, OpenEvacMap, OpenLoveMap, OpenTopoMap, 
OpenEventMap, OpenSeaMap, OpenCycleMap...


Pour aider la communauté à développer encore plus d'outils qui 
valorisent la donnée OSM, je viens de concevoir OpenRandomMap : un 
générateur de noms pour des cartes en ligne basées sur de la donnée 
ouverte. L'objectif de celui-ci est de donner des idées aux développeurs 
pour de futurs services indispensables. Il est disponible à cette adresse :

http://github.pavie.info/openrandommap/

Mis à disposition sous licence AGPL v3 sur GitHub :
https://github.com/PanierAvide/panieravide.github.io/tree/master/openrandommap

En espérant qu'il donnera des idées à certain pour un prochain 
"OpenIceMachineMap" ou "OpenPrincipleOfEquivalenceMap" ;)


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Re: [Talk-it] alla ricerca del tag...

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> Am 23.01.2016 um 13:30 schrieb Damjan Gerl :
> 
> BTW Per le varie sedi/centri operativi dhl/traco/bartolini


sono posti dove io cliente posso andare, oppure è solo un ufficio per gli 
impiegati?

io una posta privata ho mappato qui:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3803189115#map=19/41.88672/12.53771

riferimento: http://www.postaexpress.it

loro offrano anche il servizio del corriere espresso (forse anche posteItaliane 
lo offre?)


ciao,
Martin
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Re: [Talk-it] sentieri segnalati ma senza ref

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> Am 22.01.2016 um 21:23 schrieb Gianmario Mengozzi 
> :
> 
> Crei una relazione route=hiking senza il tag ref=*
> Valorizzando osmc:symbol=* senza il nr del sentiero.


+1, i singoli marcatori si possono mappare con information=trail_blaze

ciao,
Martin 


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Re: [Talk-de] Open Data: Rheinland-Pfalz lässt kostenlosen Zugriff auf Geodaten zu

[Joachim Kast]

> Ich denke, dass Joachim Kast beim Amt nachfragen wird (er dürfte dort
> schon die richtigen Ansprechpartner kennen). Solange müssen wir uns
> gedulden.

Die veröffentlichen halt leider immer erst freitags.
Das wird wohl ein stressiges Jahr mit der ganzen Nachfragerei :-)


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Re: [Talk-se] Operator på postlådor

[Johnny Blästa]

Hej!

I Sundsvall finns det röda brevlådor, som tillhör Sundsvalls Citypost, så
visst finns det behov av att kunna ha annan operator än PostNord.

MVH
Johnny Blästa
Den 23 jan 2016 13:37 skrev "Kristoffer Malmström" :

> Bara en liten rättelse.. Posten har inte köpts upp av PostNord. Posten är
> PostNord under nytt namn efter att man 2009 slog ihop svenska Posten och
> Post Danmark där bolaget till en början hette Posten Norden och sedan
> (2015) bytte namn i Sverige på den svenska postoperatören Posten AB till
> PostNord Group AB och använder sig nu av varumärket PostNord.
>
> Det är bara Bring som konkurrerar med PostNord med brevutdelning, men de
> har inga postlådor och har bara företagskunder.
>
> *Med vänliga hälsningar*
> *Kristoffer Malmström*
> Tel: 0733690161
>
> Den 23 januari 2016 10:56 skrev Mikael Nordfeldth :
>
>> "Andreas Vilén"  skrev: (23 januari 2016
>> 10:45:25 CET)
>> >Finns det andra än Posten/Postnord
>> >som
>> >har den här typen av postlådor i Sverige?
>>
>> Själv har jag vid kartläggning av brevlådor inte angett operator= för att
>> jag tänker att det är implicit Posten/postnord som är det om det inte t.ex.
>> är någon slags lokal/intern/privatägd brevlåda (varpå jag skulle märka ut
>> det).
>>
>> Har inget erfaret svar på ditt förslag utan mer en fundering om ändringen
>> då istället skulle kunna vara att lämna operator tom?
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: [Talk-se] Operator på postlådor

[David Hall]

Bring och PostNord är i och för sig de enda operatörer som har utdelning
över stora delar av landet men det finns även lokala postoperatörer.

Lista finns hos PTS (
https://www.pts.se/upload/Ovrigt/Post/postoperatorer-150930.pdf) men
huruvida de har brevlådor eller inte anges inte.

/ David

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:37 PM Kristoffer Malmström 
wrote:

> Bara en liten rättelse.. Posten har inte köpts upp av PostNord. Posten är
> PostNord under nytt namn efter att man 2009 slog ihop svenska Posten och
> Post Danmark där bolaget till en början hette Posten Norden och sedan
> (2015) bytte namn i Sverige på den svenska postoperatören Posten AB till
> PostNord Group AB och använder sig nu av varumärket PostNord.
>
> Det är bara Bring som konkurrerar med PostNord med brevutdelning, men de
> har inga postlådor och har bara företagskunder.
>
> *Med vänliga hälsningar*
> *Kristoffer Malmström*
> Tel: 0733690161
>
> Den 23 januari 2016 10:56 skrev Mikael Nordfeldth :
>
>> "Andreas Vilén"  skrev: (23 januari 2016
>> 10:45:25 CET)
>> >Finns det andra än Posten/Postnord
>> >som
>> >har den här typen av postlådor i Sverige?
>>
>> Själv har jag vid kartläggning av brevlådor inte angett operator= för att
>> jag tänker att det är implicit Posten/postnord som är det om det inte t.ex.
>> är någon slags lokal/intern/privatägd brevlåda (varpå jag skulle märka ut
>> det).
>>
>> Har inget erfaret svar på ditt förslag utan mer en fundering om ändringen
>> då istället skulle kunna vara att lämna operator tom?
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-se] NVDB på väg att släppas som öppna data

[Erik Johansson]

2016-01-20 13:29 GMT+01:00 Per Eric Rosén :
> Trafikverket verkar ha beslutat att öppna data enligt Vinnovas
> definition[1], vilket lyder
>
> ”Data kan kallas öppna data om vem som helst fritt får använda, återanvända
> och distribuera dessa med som största motprestation att ange källa eller
> krav på att dela data på samma sätt.”
>
> Vilket ju är bättre än nuvarande "licens" på trafikverket.se. Det behöver
> inte bli ODBL-kompatibelt, men finns goda chanser med definitionen. Särskilt
> om de lyckas använda just ODBL, vilket ju borde passa bra för öppna data ...

Viktigt Openstreetmap använder ODbL + Contributors Terms, som säger
att vi får ändra licens när som helst de flesta aktiva väljer att göra
så.

Så det går inte att ge oss data i ODbL, det är egentligen bara CC0,
eller ett skriftligt svar på att de går med på både ODbL och CTs som
fungerar..

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[Talk-in] weeklyOSM 287

[Jinal Foflia]

The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 287, is now available online in
English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
openstreetmap world: http://http:// 
www.weeklyosm.eu /archives/6699
 - Highlights of weeklyOSM 287

- The first GB Quarterly Mapping Project for 2016 is mapping schools in
Great Britain; details on the wiki page ...

- Users Glassman reported in his diary that, since January 2015, he sent
messages to 106 Newbies ...

- User Maning notes that he has had an OSM account for exactly 10 years ...

- The Department of Environnement from Lima, Peru has equipped vultures
with cameras and GPS to locate ...
- unfortunately not on an OSM map, but an interesting project

Enjoy! weeklyOSM is brought to you by ...
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM
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Re: [Talk-it] alla ricerca del tag...

[Damjan Gerl]

23.01.2016 - 08:34 - Martin Koppenhoefer:



Am 22.01.2016 um 21:07 schrieb Any File :

L'unico metodo saperre aggiungere un'altra key (come si fa per i bar
che vendono anche tabacchi, dove oltre a amenity=cafe si può
aggiungere tobacco=yes )

in questo caso aggiungo shop=tobacco oppure come alternativa (per esempio 
quando si tratta già di un altro shop), sells:tobacco=yes
Un solo tobacco=yes troverei troppo generico/ambiguo

Nel caso del dhl ed altro, in Germania usano amenity=post_office e operator=* su un nodo 
all'interno del negozio. Tecnicamente in Germania non ci sono più uffici postali però, 
tutte le poste sono "ospitate" dentro delle bancaposta

ciao,
Martin


BTW Per le varie sedi/centri operativi dhl/traco/bartolini ecc. io ho 
usato amenity=courier (taginfo dice usato 35 volte - e si trova anche un 
amenity=courier_office che non mi piace troppo).


Ciao
Damjan

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Re: [Talk-it] Cimiteri comunali

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> Am 23.01.2016 um 10:03 schrieb Federico Cortese :
> 
> Sul grave_yard, da quel che ricordo, dalla wiki si legge chiaramente che si 
> tratta di un piccolo cimitero annesso ad una chiesa, ben diverso dal cimitero 
> comunale. Quindi non mi sembra valido l'uso suggerito da Max.


forse la traduzione sarebbe "campo santo"? Non ne sono certo al 100%

ciao 
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[Talk-se] Operator på postlådor

[Andreas Vilén]

Jag har noterat att många postlådor i Sverige är taggade med
operator=Posten. Nu när Posten köpts upp/bytt namn till Postnord vore det
kanske en idé att ändra taggningen? Finns det andra än Posten/Postnord som
har den här typen av postlådor i Sverige? Vad jag vet finns inte det, så en
omtaggning eller kanske till och med masstaggning av postlådor borde väl
vara ganska okontroversiellt?

Eller finns det någon som har invändningar?

MVH Andreas
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [Fun] OpenRandomMap

[Greg]

Je trouve le principe rigolo, surtout avec des résultats comme celui-ci :
http://www.kirikoo.net/images/14Anonyme-20160123-143855.png

Des intéressés pour construire quelque chose dessus ?


2016-01-23 14:10 GMT+01:00 PanierAvide <panierav...@riseup.net>:

> Bonjour à tous,
>
> Le projet OpenStreetMap regorge d'outils et de visualisations, souvent
> utiles, sur des thématiques bien variées. Citons pour exemple OpenBeerMap,
> OpenSolarMap, OpenEvacMap, OpenLoveMap, OpenTopoMap, OpenEventMap,
> OpenSeaMap, OpenCycleMap...
>
> Pour aider la communauté à développer encore plus d'outils qui valorisent
> la donnée OSM, je viens de concevoir OpenRandomMap : un générateur de noms
> pour des cartes en ligne basées sur de la donnée ouverte. L'objectif de
> celui-ci est de donner des idées aux développeurs pour de futurs services
> indispensables. Il est disponible à cette adresse :
> http://github.pavie.info/openrandommap/
>
> Mis à disposition sous licence AGPL v3 sur GitHub :
>
> https://github.com/PanierAvide/panieravide.github.io/tree/master/openrandommap
>
> En espérant qu'il donnera des idées à certain pour un prochain
> "OpenIceMachineMap" ou "OpenPrincipleOfEquivalenceMap" ;)
>
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[OSM-co] Mapeo Remoto Nazareth - Iniciamos en 1 hora

[Artesano]

Iniciamos en 1 hora mapeo remoto de la tarea
https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1418

-- 
Juan Carlos Pachón
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Re: [Talk-cz] Silnice se v zimě neudržuje

[Miroslav Suchý]

Dne 19.1.2016 v 09:12 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
> Pokud by se někomu chtělo to označit tak takto neudržované silnice jsou
> veřejně dostupné
...
> http://www.susjmk.cz/wpimages/other/art60/neudrzovane2015.pdf

Tak jizni morava je hotova. Na znojemsku v tom maji docela bordel, ale
nejak to slo.
Mirek

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[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2016-01-20

[Dave Hansen]

These are based off of Lambertus's work here:

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel
free to ask.  However, please do not send me private mail.  The
odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by
asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit.

Downloads:

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2016-01-20

Map to visualize what each file contains:


http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2016-01-20/kml/kml.html


FAQ



Why did you do this?

I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact
of doing a large join on Lambertus's server.  I've also
cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently
on removable media.  

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2016-01-20

Can or should I seed the torrents?

Yes!!  If you use the .torrent files, please seed.  That web
server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this
side of the Atlantic.

Why is my map missing small rectangular areas?

There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the
red rectangles),  I don't see any at the moment, so you may
want to update if you had issues with the last set.

Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card?

If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from
the factory.  I had to reformat it to let me create a >2GB
file.

Does your map cover Mexico/Canada?

Yes!!  I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario
in to the USA.  Some areas of North America that are close
to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps.
This might not happen forever, and if you would like your
non-US area to get included, let me know. 

-- Dave


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[Talk-cat] #OSMRookie: Intervenció d'etiquetatge bàsic a Catalunya

[yo paseopor]

Hola gent!

Ja sabeu que hi ha vegades que m'avorreixo més del compte i em poso a
pensar en coses estranyes. Arrel de la reorganització de la wiki vaig fer
pública una llista de municipis a la que vaig començar a constatar que a
Catalunya tenim molts municipis amb carrers mal traçats i sense nom, així
que comentant-ho al grup de Telegram vam establir un debat sobre això en
particular i d'altres necessitats bàsiques que té el mapa.
Les conclusions ens han portat a plantejar-nos establir uns "nivells de
prioritats" dins una campanya d'etiquetatge inclòs si no som habituals de
la zona mitjançant tots els mitjans disponibles (gràcies ICGC i la teva
llicència 4.0 :P).
Els nivells podrien ser els següents:

-Nivell 1: Traçat i nom de carrer
-Nivell 2: Sentit de circulació, places, parcs,llocs públics i privats
-Nivell 3: urbanitzacions, barris, granges, masies, usos del sól (és el que
li dóna color al mapa per distingir polígons industrials, poblacions,
centres comercials) i delimitar correctament els límits administratius

Per a tot això hem decidit posar-nos mans i mànigues a l'obra i s'està fent
junt amb les edicions i l'ús d'eines com l'estil FIXName una campanya de
missatges via xarxes socials als diversos ajuntaments i associacions de les
zones que estem editant, sota el hashtag #osmrookie.
També s'està elaborant una predefinició per a JOSM (un preset de menú) que
destaqui aquests nivells.

Paral·lelament s'ha comentat també a la llista espanyola, a la qual no li
ha semblat mala idea i es seguirà parlant.
I vosaltres com ho veieu?

Salut i comunitat
yopaseopor

PD: la llista la trobareu a
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Catalan/Llistat_de_coses_a_fer#Revisi.C3.B3_de_tra.C3.A7at_i_anomenament_de_tots_els_carrers_de_Catalunya_.28llista_de_municipis.29
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[Talk-it] Materiale per "OSM per ciclisti"

[Volker Schmidt]

Mi sono impegnato di organizzare dei mini-corsi all'interno della FIAB
(Federazione Italiana Amici della Bicicletta) su come inserire dati
rilevanti per ciclisti in OSM. L'accento dovrebbe essere su:

   - aspetti delle strade rilevanti per ciclisti
   - ciclopiste
   - ciclovie (relazioni)
   - controllo di qualità (in particolare delle relazioni per le ciclovie)

Devo preparare una dispensa e per questo cerco materiale ed idee.
Se qualcuno mi vuole dare una mano anche per gli eventi stessi, sarei più
che contento.
Penso a due o tre eventi di un giorno, uno al nord, uno nel centro e uno
nel sud.

Volker
(Padova)
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Re: [Talk-cz] Silnice se v zimě neudržuje

[Petr Vozdecký]

...no a ted by to chtelo hlidat rozdilove aktualizace v tom seznamu, protoze
za par let to bude natolik jinak, ze pripadny dobrovolnik bude muset zacit 
od zacatku...



Minimalne by bylo vhodne zachytit (a nekam umistit) treba textovou podobu 
toho seznamu ke dni (tve) aplikace tech dat a pripadnou "rozdilovku" tak 
bude mit moznost udelat kdokoliv v budoucnu manualne. 



vop



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Datum: 23. 1. 2016 v 17:32:24

Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Silnice se v zimě neudržuje



Dne 19.1.2016 v 09:12 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): > Pokud by se někomu chtělo 
to označit tak takto neudržované silnice jsou > veřejně dostupné ... > 
http://www.susjmk.cz/wpimages/other/art60/neudrzovane2015.pdf Tak jizni 
morava je hotova. Na znojemsku v tom maji docela bordel, ale nejak to slo. 
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenRandomMap

[Joseph Reeves]

My favourite remains http://openwhatevermap.org/ :)

Joseph
On 23 Jan 2016 15:43, "PanierAvide"  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> The OSM project is associated to many tools and online maps, most of the
> time useful, about various themes. For example, we have OpenSeaMap,
> OpenCycleMap, OpenBeerMap, OpenSolarMap, OpenEvacMap, OpenLoveMap,
> OpenTopoMap, OpenEventMap, ...
>
> In order to help the community and make it develop even more interesting
> projects, I just released OpenRandomMap : a name generator for open online
> maps. The goal is to give ideas to all developers in the community, and let
> them create new amazing maps. You can use it here :
> http://github.pavie.info/openrandommap/
>
> It is released under AGPL v3 license, on GitHub :
>
> https://github.com/PanierAvide/panieravide.github.io/tree/master/openrandommap
>
> I hope we will see soon some new "OpenIceMachineMap" or
> "OpenPrincipleOfEquivalenceMap" ;)
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] ville fortifiéee

[osm . sanspourriel]

Bonjour,
tu peux regarder comment ils ont cartographié la vieille ville fortifiée 
de Nuremberg, en particulier au nord il y a des talus en plus de la 
fortification proprement dite.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/49.4535/11.0772
Je dis ça de mémoire, peut-être est-ce simplement la forme de la colline 
(dont le bas aurait été taillé).


Jean-Yvon

Le 23/01/2016 00:22, Muselaar - musel...@ouvaton.org a écrit :

Bonjour,

Youpi ! Un interlocuteur ! Nous sommes donc deux. À première vue, ça 
me semble pas mal, ce que tu proposes…


Comme tu as pu voir, j'ai utilisé deux tags conjointement. Peut-être 
pourrais-tu faire de même ?


Mais je suis plutôt novice, donc je ne pourrais pas en dire plus sur 
cet usage.


Muselaar


Le 22/01/2016 11:00, lenny.libre a écrit :
> Bonjour,
> Peut-être pourrions-nous jumeler les deux messages : 
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ville-fortifieee-tp5864154.html

>
> lenny
>
> Le 22/01/2016 00:48, Muselaar a écrit :
>> Bonsoir,
>>
>> J'ai cru bon, pour les murs restants d'un ancien fort (1865-70) qui 
comportaient comme unique tag barrier=city_wall, de le remplacer par 
historic=citywalls, et d'ajouter barrier=retaining_wall.
>> Il me semblait que c'est correct, dans la mesure où ces murs se 
présentent comme des remparts, mais sont également des murs de 
soutènement, puisque du côté « intérieur », ils sont en fait soit 
surmontés d'un talus de terre, avec végétation, ou servent réellement 
de soutènement en raison de la dénivellation du terrain naturel.

>>
>> Mais je suis un peu surpris du rendu :
>>
>> Sur Mapnik, cela fait deux gros traits gris parallèles (il y a un 
fossé tout le tour du fort), qui sautent aux yeux en faisant un pâté 
dès le zoom 14. Pas forcément très pertinent.

>>
>> Du coup, je me demande : ai-je traité correctement cet élément ?Ou 
bien est-ce que c'est le rendu qui doit être adapté pour des cas de ce 
type ?

>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/212114048
>>
>> Qu'en pensez-vous ?
>>
>> Muselaar

Le 06/01/2016 20:36, lenny.libre a écrit :

Bonjour.
J'ai visité la petite ville fortifiée de Navarrenx et rien ne 
l'indique dans OSM, je vais donc essayer de le faire ...


Quand je cherche dans osm les tags qui seraient adaptés.
Les cités que j'ai vu ne me semblent pas correspondre.
J'ai fait un petit schéma (très simplifié) : 
http://www.cjoint.com/c/FAgtvwb75Xz

- voie secondaire
- muraille
- chemin de ronde
- talus
- muret
- voie résidentielle

Les tags qui conviendraient (je n'ai pas indiqué ceux des voies)
- pour la muraille, j'ai trouvé 2 tags différents dommage
historic=citywalls (taginfo m'en ramène 259)
ou
barrier=city_wall : je préférerais histtoric, mais celui-ci 
présente l'avantage d'indiquer si un côté est plus bas que l'autre 
(taginfo m'en ramène 1938)


- higway= pedestrian pour le chemin de ronde

- en ce qui concerne le talus, je n'ai trouvé que la page 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:IOF_mapping


Talus en terre. Pour une petit talus utilisez un seul noeud 
size=_normal_/high (?) 	IOFearth bank.png 
 	barrier 
=earth_bank 
 
ou man_made 
=embankment 
. Pour 
les talus le long du bord d'un chemin embankment 
=yes 
 
ou cutting =yes 
. optionnel: 
height =* so that 
the renderer can decide wether a slope is high or not. Peut être 
cartographié comme une aire ?



Le mieux se serait certainement barrier=earth_bank, car embankment me 
semble plus lié à une digue le long de plan/cours d'eau ?


Je vous envoie mes Meilleurs Vœux pour 2016 et merci d'avance de vos 
remarques.

Lenny





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Re: [Talk-it] Cimiteri comunali

[Volker Schmidt]

Secondo me la wiki non è (più) coretta. La "mia" definizione viene da
Wikipedia. Il testo della wiki è stato recentemente  modificato.
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Re: [Talk-it] alla ricerca del tag...

[Damjan Gerl]

23.01.2016 - 14:43 - Martin Koppenhoefer:



Am 23.01.2016 um 13:30 schrieb Damjan Gerl :

BTW Per le varie sedi/centri operativi dhl/traco/bartolini

sono posti dove io cliente posso andare, oppure è solo un ufficio per gli 
impiegati?

io una posta privata ho mappato qui:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3803189115#map=19/41.88672/12.53771

riferimento: http://www.postaexpress.it

loro offrano anche il servizio del corriere espresso (forse anche posteItaliane 
lo offre?)


ciao,
Martin


Normalmente sono magazzini dove arrivano e caricano/scaricano i 
furgoni/camion, ma c'è anche la parte logistica e uffici dove i clienti 
possono ritirare/spedire pacchi.


Se non erro le poste si affidano a sda per i pacchi.

Ciao
Damjan

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[Talk-it] il PCN risulta ostico?

[girarsi_liste]

Risulta anche a voi oggi difficoltà ad avere il WMS del PCN 2006/12 oggi?
-- 
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Re: [Talk-dk] Cykelsti-netværk

[Michael Andersen]

Hej.

Jeg har redigeret intensivt over stort set hele DK 
(http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?Hjart)og vil mene at kvaliteten udenfor 
hovedstadsregionen 
generelt er mindst lige så god som indenfor. Vi har ikke tilstrækkeligt med 
seriøse bidragsydere rundt omkring til helt at kunne gardere os mod 
diverse huller, men det er mit indtryk at den situation gradvist er ved at 
blive bedre. En højere grad af organisation blandt os vil helt sikkert hjælpe 
meget på det, men jeg er ikke sikker på at tiden endnu er helt moden til 
det.
Jeg vil sige at der er overraskende få seriøse folk i forstadskommunerne 
(hedder det det?), mens kompleksiteten i det meste af Jylland er så 
forholdsvis lav at der skal relativt få mappere til for at vedligeholde 
vejnettet her.

Mvh Hjart
 OpenStreetMapbidragsyder[1] 

Lørdag den 23. januar 2016 18:41:17 skrev Andreas Hammershøj:
> Hej,
> Cyklistforbundet og foreningen Dansk Cykelturisme er ved at lave nye
> landsdækkende cykelkort. Da jeg ikke er leverandør på den opgave 
bruges der
> primært FOT-data, men de er løbet ind i problemer ift. cykelstier.
> FOT har masser af stier, men de er ikke ordentlig kategoriseret i det
> brugte datasæt. Jeg er blevet bedt om at undersøge kvaliteten i OSM og 
har
> været en tur i QGIS og sammenligne FOT med udvalgte områder i OSM. 
Der er
> ingen tvivl om at OSM er bedre, spørgsmålet er hvor god indtegningen er 
på
> landsplan? Det er svært at sige når man ikke har noget at sammenligne 
med
> og ikke har tid til at sidde og gennemgå hele landet med luftfoto. Jeg 
ved
> at Københavnsområdet er fint og har et godt indtryk af Nordsjælland og 
Fyn,
> men hvordan vil I bedømme kvaliteten i jeres områder?
> 
> Vh
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[Talk-es] Etiquetaje; estado de las calles españolas

[yo paseopor]

¡Buenas gente!

Aunque mi ámbito habitual suele ser más la lista catalana, a veces me doy
un garbeo por el grupo español de Telegram y comentando el desarrollo de un
nuevo preset para una campaña de etiquetaje "básico" llegamos a la
conclusión de que en ciertas zonas de España queda mucho por hacer. Así que
me dispuse a comprobarlo un poco por encima, sin mucho esfuerzo. Usé
http://qa.poole.ch/ Y estos son los resultados que cualquiera puede
comprobar.

De capitales de provincia las que requieren intervención urgente o similar:
-Ourense
-Cuenca
*Madrid (la capital de España no puede tener calles sin nombrar, lo siento,
es cuestión de imagen...lo mismo diría de Barcelona)
-Toledo
-Badajoz
-Murcia
-Jerez

y los barrios exteriores y zonas nuevas de:

-Tarragona
-Almería
-Sevilla
-Cádiz

Mención especial a Salamanca...vereis como la herramienta no le encuentra
NINGÚN ERROR de NOName, un aplauso a los salmantinos y a quien edita en la
zona ;)

Como intervención en el grupo catalán de Telegram hemos debatido unos
niveles que toda población debería tener, a fin de homogeneizar y mejorar
el desarrollo del mapa:

-Nivel 1: Trazado y nombre de calle
-Nivel 2: Sentido de circulación, plazas,parques, lugares públicos y
privados.
-Nivel 3: Urbanizaciones, granjas,masías, usos del suelo (es lo que da
color al mapa, residencial,comercial,industrial),delimitar correctamente
límites administrativos.

Para todo ello se piensa en el desarrollo de una predefinición de menú para
JOSM que muestre las opciones dirigidas a esos niveles "básicos".También se
comenta el envío de mensajes vía redes sociales a los ayuntamientos y
comunidades de la zona para animar al uso y edición de OSM.

-En el grupo español de Telegram se comentaba que tan importante son los
sentidos de circulación como también los propios portales de la calle,
aunque eso ya requiere de un etiquetaje un poco más elaborado.También se
hablaba de exponerlo en la wiki, así como diversas revisiones del
transporte público, etc.

Todo son ideas, todo es mejorable, no se trata de poner el dedo en la llaga
o señalar a uno u otro, simplemente se trata de constatar un hecho y qué
puede hacer la comunidad para mejorarlo.

¿Qué pensais vosotros?
Salut i comunitats
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Re: [Talk-it] alla ricerca del tag...

[Paolo Monegato]

Il 22/01/2016 17:14, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:


2016-01-22 16:43 GMT+01:00 demon.box >:


- centro riparazione cellulari e apparecchiature elettroniche
(tablet, ecc.)



propongo:
shop=mobile_phone_repair

http://taginfo.osm.org/search?q=shop%3Dphone_repair

ancora non è usato molto, ma mi sembra logico (evoluzione di 
shop=mobile_phone)


Non sarebbe meglio craft?

ciao
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Re: [Talk-us] osm meetup in austin ?

[Andy Wilson]

Hey there Rihards.

Welcome to Austin! We have a small (but growing) group of OSMers and can
definitely make a mapping party happen. We've not been posting to that wiki
page out of ignorance to its existence, but there have been a few OSM
events and meetups in the past year or so.

If you already in town, some of us will be at a coffeeshop/pub on Monday
morning, so that would be a good place to meet and start planning things.
Details are at http://www.meetup.com/atx-osg/events/228153534/ - if not, we
can figure things out some other way.

-andy

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 10:36 AM Rihards  wrote:

> heya. coming from europe and staying in austin (texas capital) until the
> end of february, i was wondering whether some osm mapping party or
> meetup could be arranged.
> the austin wiki page seems to indicate that the last event was back in
> 2010, which is slightly sad -
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Austin,_Texas
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Re: [Talk-it] il PCN risulta ostico?

[Andrea Albani]

Confermo.
Normalmente ha prestazioni pessime, ma oggi non serve neanche un tile che
sia uno.

Il giorno 23 gennaio 2016 19:07, girarsi_liste  ha
scritto:

> Risulta anche a voi oggi difficoltà ad avere il WMS del PCN 2006/12 oggi?
> --
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Re: [OSM-co] Mapeo Remoto Nazareth - Iniciamos en 1 hora

[Artesano]

Iniciamos mapeo remoto en 30 minutos
quienes todavía no se han inscrito en la mesa de
ayuda por favor enviar su cuenta de Gmail.

2016-01-23 9:11 GMT-05:00 Artesano :

> Iniciamos en 1 hora mapeo remoto de la tarea
> https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1418
>
> --
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>



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[OSM-talk] OpenRandomMap

[PanierAvide]

Hello everyone,

The OSM project is associated to many tools and online maps, most of the 
time useful, about various themes. For example, we have OpenSeaMap, 
OpenCycleMap, OpenBeerMap, OpenSolarMap, OpenEvacMap, OpenLoveMap, 
OpenTopoMap, OpenEventMap, ...


In order to help the community and make it develop even more interesting 
projects, I just released OpenRandomMap : a name generator for open 
online maps. The goal is to give ideas to all developers in the 
community, and let them create new amazing maps. You can use it here :

http://github.pavie.info/openrandommap/

It is released under AGPL v3 license, on GitHub :
https://github.com/PanierAvide/panieravide.github.io/tree/master/openrandommap 



I hope we will see soon some new "OpenIceMachineMap" or 
"OpenPrincipleOfEquivalenceMap" ;)


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Re: [Talk-dk] Cykelsti-netværk

[Soren Johannessen]

I forlængelse af hvad Michael har skrevet om forstadskommunerne -

Så har det undret mig snart et par år, at de 17 kommuner i
Nordsjællandsområdet og Hovedstaden, der er med i Supercykelsti
samarbejdet ikke er gået ind og tjekket deres område for mangler/fejl
mm. Deres rutenavigationsværktøj er baseret på OSM samt de bruger OSM
som grundkort - http://www.supercykelstier.dk/hvad-er-en-supercykelsti

Der bliver brugt rigtigt mange penge på dette samarbejde samt anlæg af
nye stier med skiltning osv - Så at afsætte et par arbejdsdage mht.
geodata arbejde i OSM er ikke det der vælter budget i dette
samarbejde.


Måske hvis du bor i en af disse kommuner at du kunne skrive til dem
forslå at de satte lidt tid af til dette :)


Det bringer mig så til min egen kommune Frederikssund - FOT eller
rettere Geodanmark har i årevis manglet en sti, som jeg har gjort
kommunen opmærksom på flere gange- Denne sti mangler langs Fjordstien
(skiltning osv for cykelrute er der ude) - Jeg har mistanke om at de
ikke tager den med pga. stien fører gennem en lodsejers ejendom.
Lodsejeren har jo ellers givet lov til at ruten fører gennem dette
område da der er skilte osv derude.

Det er yderst problematisk med disse forhold af offentlige data - I
OSM kan vi mangle dem, men hvis nogen gør opmærksom på at vi mangler
noget i et bestemt område, så går det jo stærkt med at en eller anden
lige får det fikset.


Vh
Søren Johannessen

2016-01-23 19:24 GMT+01:00 Michael Andersen :
> Hej.
>
>
>
> Jeg har redigeret intensivt over stort set hele DK
> (http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?Hjart)og vil mene at kvaliteten udenfor
> hovedstadsregionen generelt er mindst lige så god som indenfor. Vi har ikke
> tilstrækkeligt med seriøse bidragsydere rundt omkring til helt at kunne
> gardere os mod diverse huller, men det er mit indtryk at den situation
> gradvist er ved at blive bedre. En højere grad af organisation blandt os vil
> helt sikkert hjælpe meget på det, men jeg er ikke sikker på at tiden endnu
> er helt moden til det.
>
> Jeg vil sige at der er overraskende få seriøse folk i forstadskommunerne
> (hedder det det?), mens kompleksiteten i det meste af Jylland er så
> forholdsvis lav at der skal relativt få mappere til for at vedligeholde
> vejnettet her.
>
>
>
> Mvh Hjart
>
> OpenStreetMapbidragsyder
>
>
>
> Lørdag den 23. januar 2016 18:41:17 skrev Andreas Hammershøj:
>
>> Hej,
>
>> Cyklistforbundet og foreningen Dansk Cykelturisme er ved at lave nye
>
>> landsdækkende cykelkort. Da jeg ikke er leverandør på den opgave bruges
>> der
>
>> primært FOT-data, men de er løbet ind i problemer ift. cykelstier.
>
>> FOT har masser af stier, men de er ikke ordentlig kategoriseret i det
>
>> brugte datasæt. Jeg er blevet bedt om at undersøge kvaliteten i OSM og har
>
>> været en tur i QGIS og sammenligne FOT med udvalgte områder i OSM. Der er
>
>> ingen tvivl om at OSM er bedre, spørgsmålet er hvor god indtegningen er på
>
>> landsplan? Det er svært at sige når man ikke har noget at sammenligne med
>
>> og ikke har tid til at sidde og gennemgå hele landet med luftfoto. Jeg ved
>
>> at Københavnsområdet er fint og har et godt indtryk af Nordsjælland og
>> Fyn,
>
>> men hvordan vil I bedømme kvaliteten i jeres områder?
>
>>
>
>> Vh
>
>> Andreas Hammershøj
>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenRandomMap

[Russ Nelson]

Joseph Reeves writes:
 > My favourite remains http://openwhatevermap.org/ :)

If the goal of having a map on the front page of osm.org is to
illustrate the extent of our data, perhaps we should be using a random
tile set just as OWEM does, and allow people to choose "Standard" as
one of the choices.

OSM is a dataset that can be used to create maps. It is not a
map. OWEM would make that clear without removing the utility of having
map tiles available.

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Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: State Park Boundary shp file

[Jack Burke]

You can copyright a publication of facts, too. I could publish a book called 
Ugly Red Things and copyright it. But nothing would stop you from publishing 
your own book, Red Things That I Find Ugly. 

On January 23, 2016 1:48:51 PM EST, Russ Nelson  wrote:
>Kevin Kenny writes:
>> Other localities see GIS as a profit center. In New York, at least,
>this 
>> is perfectly lawful. The Court of Appeals of the Second Circuit said
>so. 
> > (There's a circuit split on the issue, if memory serves.)
> > 
>>
>https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news/court-rules-copyright-maps-does-not-offend-open-records-law
>
>You cannot copyright a fact about the world in the United States. You
>can copyright creative choices that you've made in the arrangement or
>presentation of the facts, but you cannot copyright the fact
>itself. You can copyright commentary about the facts, but you cannot
>copyright the fact itself. If an object in the world is red, you can
>call it ugly and claim a copyright on that, but you cannot claim a
>copyright in its redness. You can copyright a creative subset of
>facts, but you cannot copyright the totality of facts.
>
>New York courts are free to rule any way they want, but copyright
>doesn't allow you to own facts. This is well-adjudicated in higher
>courts.
>
>If you could claim a copyright on facts, you could control people's
>speech, and the First Amendment does not allow that. The freedom of
>factual information is very strongly protected in the US. No matter
>what Suffolk County thinks.
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Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: State Park Boundary shp file

[Kevin Kenny]

On 01/23/2016 01:48 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:

New York courts are free to rule any way they want, but copyright
doesn't allow you to own facts. This is well-adjudicated in higher
courts.

If you could claim a copyright on facts, you could control people's
speech, and the First Amendment does not allow that. The freedom of
factual information is very strongly protected in the US. No matter
what Suffolk County thinks.


This being the Second Circuit, the only higher court in the US
is the US Supreme Court. The Supreme Court case that is on point is
Feist Publications, Inc., v. Rural Telephone Service Co.,
499 U.S. 340 (1991), in which it was found that the mere collection
of names and telephone numbers (and alphabetizing the names)
failed to have the creative spark needed to make the content
subject to copyright.

The Second Circuit distinguished the case at hand from _Feist_
in that converting metes and bounds to a drawn map requires
considerable interpretation, and enough creativity that copyright
can subsist in the GIS work product.

According to the court's reasoning, you still have your freedom of
speech. You're still free to get permission from a landowner, enter
on the land, make your own measurements and draw your own map - so
you're free to share the facts. You're also free to go to the county
courthouse, look up a parcel in the tax rolls, and proclaim the
metes and bounds from the housetops. But the county's GIS files,
says the Second Circuit, remain the property of the county, and so
you are not free to share them nor to create derivative works from them.

This could have happened only in one of the handful of states that
allow copyright to subsist in government works. In most states,
government works, like those of the Federal government, are born
in the public domain.

I quite agree with you that it seems to contradict established law,
and conflict with constitutional principles of both freedome
of speech and open government, but until and unless the Supremes
speak on it again, it's precedent in the Second Circuit.

The law is an ass.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] places de stationnement pour autocars

[althio]

Cherche quelque chose autour de ça :

amenity=parking http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dparking
access=no
tourist_bus=designated
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Land-based_transportation

**grillé par Eric**

2016-01-23 22:25 GMT+01:00 Muselaar :
> Bonjour,
>
> Comment tague-t-on le parkings ou places de parking pour autocars de
> tourisme ?
>
> Je n'ai rien trouvé dans le wiki, ni sur la liste. Je n'ai peut-être pas mis
> les bons mots…
>
> Muselaar
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Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers

[Andrew Davidson]

The work flow that JOSM wants you to use is to have your new data in
one layer and the existing OSM data in another and to "merge
selection" on individual items.  I'm assuming this is to slow down
people just dump-and-running. I found it useful to use the merge
approach as you can delete the ways from the kml layer as you do each
one and it lets you check that you've processed each way. 

- Original Message -
From: "Nev Wedding" 
To:"OSM Australian Talk List" 
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:42:53 +1000
Subject:Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers

 (corrected message….opening the .kml fileI have the .kml file and
the downloaded osm data as seperate layers and want to upload the .kml
layers which contains all the updated info)

I have followed this process for Kooyong State Conservation Area which
has gone well after opening the .kml file and have simplified and
added all the tags, …but on trying to upload the final boundary I
get this ominous message
“You are about to upload data from the layer 'Kooyong.kml'.
Sending data from this layer is STRONGLY DISCOURAGED. If you continue,
it may require you subsequently have to revert your changes, or force
other contributors to.
Are you sure you want to continue? 
“ 
 I assume the warning is to dissuade mappers from careless import of
large uncorrected datasets.? 
 Sooo…, am I ok to continue or is there another reason?  ..I am
on-hold here until I see a reply 
 Nev  

 On 22 Jan 2016, at 11:36 PM, Andrew Davidson  wrote: 
You can extract the geometries from the database directly, you don't
have to scan them. I tried this on three park areas to see how much
work was involved. The recipe I followed was:

1. Use the query tool to find out how many objects have the name that
you are looking for. You do this with:

http://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/arcgis/rest/services/public/NSW_Administrative_Boundaries/MapServer/6/query
[2]

with the return format set to html. Names must be in upper case and
you need to see what object ids are returned. For example if you
search for Yanununbeyan with:

http://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/arcgis/rest/services/public/NSW_Administrative_Boundaries/MapServer/6/query?text=YANUNUNBEYAN==esriGeometryEnvelope==esriSpatialRelIntersects=false=false=truehtml
[3]

You get three different ids (198,208,1131) because there is a
Yanununbeyan State Conservation Area, Yanununbeyan Nature Reserve, and
Yanununbeyan National Park. All of which need to be tagged
differently. Follow the object links to find out what type of area
they are.

2. Having found the object id you need you get the geometry by using
the query tool and setting the object id, setting the output spatial
reference to 4326 (WGS84), and changing the output format to JSON.

3. Save the resulting page, say output.json

4. Use ogr2ogr from GDAL to convert the output into something JOSM can
read:

ogr2ogr -f "KML" output.json output.kml

5. If you have the opendata plugin installed you can open output.kml
in JOSM.

6. Use the simplify way option in JOSM as there are far too many
points in the resulting kml. I personally thought that the default 3m
looks OK.

7. Tag the ways with an appropriate source:geometry and add a note to
the effect that the way has been simplified using a max error
criterion set to whatever you used.

8. Now comes the difficult and time consuming bit. You have to cut up
and conflate the new boundaries with the existing data as you merge
each new way from the layer you opened the kml in to the layer the osm
data is in. This is the step where you could really make a mess. 

I found while doing the few test cases that I had to:

- Make sure that common boundaries use only one way (which means that
the more parks, state forests, admin areas, etc that share ways the
more time consuming it gets)

- Make judgement calls about if you should use the new boundary or
keep the existing way where the boundary is something physical on the
ground like a river bank or coastline. This is why I tagged the new
ways with source:geometry so other mappers can see where they came
from.

- If there are already ways in place, using the replace geometry
function of the utils2 plugin to try and preserve history.

The cases I tried as a test were:

South East Forest National Park:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5853354

Murramarang National Park:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5858067

Clyde River National Park:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5857616

The South East Forest case was a multi-hour mapping marathon as the
park has a lot of separate sections and shares many boundaries with
neighbouring state forests and parks. The other two were much simpler
but Murramarang need more time than Clyde River as it has more
sections and shares a lot of common ways with the coast and various
rivers.

As to the import question it seems to me that there is a tacit
agreement that tracing the boundaries one at a time is acceptable (not
sure what the rest of OSM would 

[OSM-talk-fr] Conservatoires et écoles de musique

[Muselaar]

Bonsoir,

J'ai l'impression qu'il n'y a rien de prévu pour taguer les 
conservatoires et écoles de musique, comme les écoles d'art, du reste. 
Pourtant, ce sont des équipements généralement publics, tout à fait 
spécifiques, qu'il serait autant nécessaire de signaler, sans que cela 
ne surcharge beaucoup les données.
Certains sont tagués en « university » (il y a de l'enseignement 
supérieur dans un certain nombre), mais ça ne me semble pas refléter la 
réalité. Car il n'y a que 2 conservatoires en France (Lyon et Paris) qui 
ne dispense que de l'enseignement supérieur, tous les autres démarrent 
aux petits niveaux, et comportent quelques niveaux reconnus comme 
enseignement supérieur.


Que pourrait-on faire ?

Muselaar

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] places de stationnement pour autocars

[Éric Gillet]

Le 23 janvier 2016 à 22:25, Muselaar  a écrit :

> Comment tague-t-on le parkings ou places de parking pour autocars de
> tourisme ?
>

Il est possible de distinguer les types de véhicules autorisés (sur route,
parking, etc.) avec les clés détaillées ici

.

Pour un parking dédié bus, je mettrais :

amenity=parking
access=no
bus=yes

Pour un emplacement bus dans un parking "classique" :

amenity=parking_space
access=no
bus=yes
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Conservatoires et écoles de musique

[JB]

Pour ma part, j'ai opté pour amenity=music_school. 50 occurences en 
France, 300 dans le monde. C'est du taggage au canard, trop éloigné 
d'une école classique pour surcharger un amenity=school, assez 
spécifique pour son tag à lui. Et un peu sur le modèle du plus répandu 
amenity=driving_school.

JB.

Le 23/01/2016 23:38, Muselaar a écrit :

Bonsoir,

J'ai l'impression qu'il n'y a rien de prévu pour taguer les 
conservatoires et écoles de musique, comme les écoles d'art, du reste. 
Pourtant, ce sont des équipements généralement publics, tout à fait 
spécifiques, qu'il serait autant nécessaire de signaler, sans que cela 
ne surcharge beaucoup les données.
Certains sont tagués en « university » (il y a de l'enseignement 
supérieur dans un certain nombre), mais ça ne me semble pas refléter 
la réalité. Car il n'y a que 2 conservatoires en France (Lyon et 
Paris) qui ne dispense que de l'enseignement supérieur, tous les 
autres démarrent aux petits niveaux, et comportent quelques niveaux 
reconnus comme enseignement supérieur.


Que pourrait-on faire ?

Muselaar

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[OSM-talk-fr] places de stationnement pour autocars

[Muselaar]

Bonjour,

Comment tague-t-on le parkings ou places de parking pour autocars de 
tourisme ?


Je n'ai rien trouvé dans le wiki, ni sur la liste. Je n'ai peut-être pas 
mis les bons mots…


Muselaar

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Re: [Talk-GB] 2016 first quarterly project:Schools

[Andy Mabbett]

On 7 January 2016 at 11:35, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
 wrote:

> we need a corresponding key name for
> Scottish schools. These are (mostly) not listed in Edubase and the
> Scottish Government have their own list and ID numbers for their
> schools. I've used the list at
> http://www.gov.scot/Topics/Statistics/Browse/School-Education/Datasets/contactdetails
> which has a "SeedCode" field. Presumably SEED="Scottish Executive
> Education Department".

FYI, there is now a "Seed number" property in Wikidata:

   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P2524

We should begin populating that shortly.

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Re: [Talk-us] users cam98 and cameronk1998 causing issues around austin

[Shawn K. Quinn]

On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 07:34 +0200, Rihards wrote:
> these two new useraccounts seem to be used by the same person :
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/cam98
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/cameronk1998

This may well be the same user as an account named Cam4rd98, which I
remember causing trouble in the past as well.

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[OSM-talk-fr] Projet transports en commun

[specimail-forums]

Bonjour à tous,
je suis Djam, cartographe épisodique des Alpes-Maritimes (et ailleurs).Je 
reviens un peu à OSM pour compléter les réseaux de bus, cars et autres 
transports en communs, qu'ils soient locaux, interurbains, départementaux ou 
régionaux.
Pour avoir une vision au niveau de mon département, j'ai commencé un suivi des 
différents réseaux sur la base d'un modèle et d'informations trouvées sur les 
projets dans l'Ain et à Douai.Ça se passe ici : 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/France:Alpes-Maritimes/Transports_en_commun
S'il y a des contributeurs qui cherchent quoi faire... ils sont les bienvenus. 
;-)Je suis preneur de vos conseils pour améliorer le suivi proposé : mise en 
forme, suivi d'avancement d'un même réseau à plusieurs échelles (régionale, 
départementale et locale).Si ça peut ensuite servir de base pour aider à la 
dynamique ailleurs, tant mieux. 

De même, je prends toutes les bonnes idées pour accélérer la cartographie des 
réseaux, qui reste assez fastidieuse je trouve. (J'utilise JOSM)

Le dernier projet du mois datant de mars 2013 sur la page openstreetmap.fr, 
est-ce que ça pourrait faire un nouveau projet du mois ? (voire le sujet 
2016-2019)  ;o)
Bonne année à tous en tout cas.
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Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers

[Nev Wedding]

Your work flow using the geometries has worked very well for me with the LPI 
data and the last bit regarding the merging each item separately into the 
existing OSM data seems prudent and makes for easier management of the data.
Much appreciated
Nev 

> On 24 Jan 2016, at 9:11 AM, Andrew Davidson  wrote:
> 
> The work flow that JOSM wants you to use is to have your new data in one 
> layer and the existing OSM data in another and to "merge selection" on 
> individual items.  I'm assuming this is to slow down people just 
> dump-and-running. I found it useful to use the merge approach as you can 
> delete the ways from the kml layer as you do each one and it lets you check 
> that you've processed each way. 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> "Nev Wedding" 
> 
> To:
> "OSM Australian Talk List" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:42:53 +1000
> Subject:
> Re: [talk-au] JOSM Scanaerial plugin on NSW LPI layers
> 
> 
> (corrected message….opening the .kml file
> I have the .kml file and the downloaded osm data as seperate layers and want 
> to upload the .kml layers which contains all the updated info)
> 
> I have followed this process for Kooyong State Conservation Area which has 
> gone well after opening the .kml file and have simplified and added all the 
> tags, 
> …but on trying to upload the final boundary I get this ominous message
> “
> You are about to upload data from the layer 'Kooyong.kml'.
> Sending data from this layer is strongly discouraged. If you continue,
> it may require you subsequently have to revert your changes, or force other 
> contributors to.
> Are you sure you want to continue? 
> “
> 
> I assume the warning is to dissuade mappers from careless import of large 
> uncorrected datasets.?
> 
> Sooo…, am I ok to continue or is there another reason?  ..I am on-hold here 
> until I see a reply
> 
> Nev 
> 
> 
> On 22 Jan 2016, at 11:36 PM, Andrew Davidson  > wrote:
> 
> You can extract the geometries from the database directly, you don't have to 
> scan them. I tried this on three park areas to see how much work was 
> involved. The recipe I followed was:
> 
> 1. Use the query tool to find out how many objects have the name that you are 
> looking for. You do this with:
> 
> http://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/arcgis/rest/services/public/NSW_Administrative_Boundaries/MapServer/6/query
>  
> 
> 
> with the return format set to html. Names must be in upper case and you need 
> to see what object ids are returned. For example if you search for 
> Yanununbeyan with:
> 
> http://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/arcgis/rest/services/public/NSW_Administrative_Boundaries/MapServer/6/query?text=YANUNUNBEYAN==esriGeometryEnvelope==esriSpatialRelIntersects=false=false=truehtml
>  
> 
> 
> You get three different ids (198,208,1131) because there is a Yanununbeyan 
> State Conservation Area, Yanununbeyan Nature Reserve, and Yanununbeyan 
> National Park. All of which need to be tagged differently. Follow the object 
> links to find out what type of area they are.
> 
> 2. Having found the object id you need you get the geometry by using the 
> query tool and setting the object id, setting the output spatial reference to 
> 4326 (WGS84), and changing the output format to JSON.
> 
> 3. Save the resulting page, say output.json
> 
> 4. Use ogr2ogr from GDAL to convert the output into something JOSM can read:
> 
> ogr2ogr -f “KML" output.json output.kml

other way around works for me …  ogr2ogr -f “KML” output.ml output.son on OS X 
> 
> 5. If you have the opendata plugin installed you can open output.kml in JOSM.
> 
> 6. Use the simplify way option in JOSM as there are far too many points in 
> the resulting kml. I personally thought that the default 3m looks OK.
> 
> 7. Tag the ways with an appropriate source:geometry and add a note to the 
> effect that the way has been simplified using a max error criterion set to 
> whatever you used.
> 
> 8. Now comes the difficult and time consuming bit. You have to cut up and 
> conflate the new boundaries with the existing data as you merge each new way 
> from the layer you opened the kml in to the layer the osm data is in. This is 
> the step where you could really make a mess. 
> 
> I found while doing the few test cases that I had to:
> 
> - Make sure that common boundaries use only one way (which means that the 
> more parks, state forests, admin areas, etc that share ways the more time 
> consuming it gets)
> 
> - Make judgement calls about if you should use the new boundary or keep the 
> existing way where the boundary is 

[Talk-in] On a interface for translation

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all ,

As noted in the mail by Arun in Wikimedia India mailing list [1],the
translations for most of the map feature names is not available in Indic
Languagues . I am planning to take up the task of translating a bulk amount
of data to Tamil . But , I am facing an issue as I am not that familiar
(but eager to know) about the OSM interface fro translation , and doing it
one node at a time . If some one has experience or fun in translation
interface please let me know .For now , I am doing it this way as helped by
SrrReal 

1. Go to osm.org
2. Hit the edit button
3. That opens the ID editor.
4. Click on a street name for example
5. On the left side, it displays the 'Name' text box. At the right corner
of the text box is a '+' sign.
6. Hit that button to translate. From the resulting dropdown pick Tamil as
the language and doing the honours ;)


[1]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2015-December/012389.html

Regards,
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[OSM-ja] 富田林市インポート作業完了報告

[浅野和仁]

浅野です。

昨年の10月17日に開始しました富田林市域の道路と建物のインポート作業につきまして下記のとおり作業が終了しましたことを報告します。

11月15日 幹線道路（国道・主要地方道・大阪府道）の既存データの位置修正終了。
12月12日 幹線道路（国道・主要地方道・大阪府道）以外の道路インポートを終了。
12月19日 Talk-jaで指摘された交差点の未接続、道路種別、source記述等の修正を終了。
12月27日 建物データのインポートを終了。
1月18日 奈良女子大西村氏、大阪市立大吉田氏等によるチェックが終了しインポートを完了。

多くの皆様のご指導によりなんとかインポートを完了できましたこと、篤く感謝します。

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Conservatoires et écoles de musique

[bernard]

Bonjour,
S'il y a consensus, il faudrait l'incorporer dans le wiki


Le 23/01/2016 23:41, JB a écrit :
Pour ma part, j'ai opté pour amenity=music_school. 50 occurences en 
France, 300 dans le monde. C'est du taggage au canard, trop éloigné 
d'une école classique pour surcharger un amenity=school, assez 
spécifique pour son tag à lui. Et un peu sur le modèle du plus répandu 
amenity=driving_school.

JB.

Le 23/01/2016 23:38, Muselaar a écrit :

Bonsoir,

J'ai l'impression qu'il n'y a rien de prévu pour taguer les 
conservatoires et écoles de musique, comme les écoles d'art, du 
reste. Pourtant, ce sont des équipements généralement publics, tout à 
fait spécifiques, qu'il serait autant nécessaire de signaler, sans 
que cela ne surcharge beaucoup les données.
Certains sont tagués en « university » (il y a de l'enseignement 
supérieur dans un certain nombre), mais ça ne me semble pas refléter 
la réalité. Car il n'y a que 2 conservatoires en France (Lyon et 
Paris) qui ne dispense que de l'enseignement supérieur, tous les 
autres démarrent aux petits niveaux, et comportent quelques niveaux 
reconnus comme enseignement supérieur.


Que pourrait-on faire ?

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Projet transports en commun

[Jean-Christophe Becquet]

Le 24/01/2016 08:21, specimail-for...@yahoo.fr a écrit :

je suis Djam, cartographe épisodique des Alpes-Maritimes (et ailleurs).
Je reviens un peu à OSM pour compléter les réseaux de bus, cars et
autres transports en communs, qu'ils soient locaux, interurbains,
départementaux ou régionaux.


Bonjour Djam,

La cartopartie régionale GeoCampPaca dédiée à la thématique des 
transports et de l'intermodalité pourrait t'intéresser.

http://www.dignelesbains.fr/2016/01/mardi-26-janvier-participez-au-geocampaca-2016/

L'organisation détaillée
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4BuAP_kINa7elh3VkRObTNGa1E/view

Bonne journée

Librement

JCB
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[Talk-us] potentially incorrect addresses in austin import

[Rihards]

data from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Austin,_TX/Buildings_Import 
might be slightly incorrect - see the buildings on both sides of 
http://osm.org/go/Ts0vgp2HQ?layers=N=


one had no housenumber, and one seemingly had incorrect housenumber.

didn't spot information on where to report potential errors in the city 
dataset, so if anybody would like to report that, please go ahead :)

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Re: [Talk-us] osm meetup in austin ?

[Rihards]

On 2016.01.23. 19:39, Andy Wilson wrote:

Hey there Rihards.

Welcome to Austin! We have a small (but growing) group of OSMers and can
definitely make a mapping party happen. We've not been posting to that
wiki page out of ignorance to its existence, but there have been a few
OSM events and meetups in the past year or so.

If you already in town, some of us will be at a coffeeshop/pub on Monday
morning, so that would be a good place to meet and start planning
things. Details are at http://www.meetup.com/atx-osg/events/228153534/ -
if not, we can figure things out some other way.


thanks for the info. won't be able to make it to the city at that time, 
staying & working at the arboretum area.

is a meetup on a thursday or friday night a good idea ?


-andy

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 10:36 AM Rihards > wrote:

heya. coming from europe and staying in austin (texas capital) until the
end of february, i was wondering whether some osm mapping party or
meetup could be arranged.
the austin wiki page seems to indicate that the last event was back in
2010, which is slightly sad -
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Austin,_Texas
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[Talk-us] users cam98 and cameronk1998 causing issues around austin

[Rihards]

these two new useraccounts seem to be used by the same person :
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/cam98
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/cameronk1998

unfortunately, their edits completely mess up the map - they seem to 
delete valid data, in some cases replace it with rough replacements that 
are not connected to other roads etc.


i started to clean up some of that, but the damage seems to be quite 
extensive. as an example, see the history of this way here :

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/390433839/history#map=18/30.27550/-97.91306
also see other ways in the area - but note that the changes are not 
limited to a small area.


i sent a message to both accounts, asking whether they are aware of the 
damage they are causing.


unfortunately, at this point i have to ask dwg for a full revert of all 
changesets from these accounts at least near austin. normally i'd do 
that myself, but here the affected amount of data is too large for me.


these user accounts also have made changes near chicago & houston - i 
did not investigate those changes.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] places de stationnement pour autocars

[bernard]

Bonjour
Par les tags :
access=no
bus=yes


Le 23/01/2016 22:25, Muselaar a écrit :

Bonjour,

Comment tague-t-on le parkings ou places de parking pour autocars de 
tourisme ?


Je n'ai rien trouvé dans le wiki, ni sur la liste. Je n'ai peut-être 
pas mis les bons mots…


Muselaar

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