[OSM-ja] 12/16 京都！街歩き！マッピングパーティ：第46回 笠置寺
山下です。 皆さんこんにちわ。 京都を街歩きして、楽しみながら 自由な地図である OpenStreetMap を作り上げていくマッピングパーティ！ 次回は、想像を超える巨石が点在し、弥生時代から信仰を受けた聖地笠置寺 https://openstreetmap-kyoto.connpass.com/event/302709/ ゆるーり観光しながらサーベイ（現地調査） 向日市の公民館に移動して OpenStreetMap にマッピング（地図編集）、 マッピングの後は激辛商店街で懇親会！！ 皆様の参加をお待ちしています！ #osmjp ※※ 状況によっては直前に中止にしたり、内容を変更する可能性があります。ご承知おきください -- 山下康成＠京都府向日市 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically remove obvious descriptive names for viewpoints (obvious cases only, not all suspect objects)
Nov 16, 2023, 21:02 by marc_m...@mailo.com: > Hello, > > Le 16.11.23 à 13:35, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : > >> this relies on assumption that object tagged like >> - tourism=viewpoint >> - name=Viewpoint >> is always case of misusing name tag. >> > > how could anyone possibly know that this generic name is the real name? > Not entirely sure what you mean here? That you are confused why someone would tag it? Or that it could be plausibly valid name? (for me it is 100% clear that it cannot be real name, like natural=tree name=Tree is clearly invalid one) > I don't know of any cases for a point of view, but it seemed to me that the > wiki mentioned such a case, but I can't find it. > >> Similarly with other that are expected attributes of viewpoints. >> > > Which others ? > Good point, I will share listing when I will be back at home and some spare hobby time >> Comments welcome >> > > please run previously approved ones (like surface=*) before asking more edits. > good news here! this edit is treated as approved, and was added to bot edit schedule it runs right now, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny%20-%20bot%20account/history(note, link may obviously show other edits in future as it goes to simply listing of latest edits made from that account) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tuiles manquantes à zoom=17
Le 16.11.23 à 20:37, Marc_marc a écrit : d'autant + élevé que tu n'es pas authentifié et que tu ne les visualises pas depuis osm.org je vpulais dire : d'autant + sévère (donc d'aautant + basse) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically remove obvious descriptive names for viewpoints (obvious cases only, not all suspect objects)
Hello, Le 16.11.23 à 13:35, Mateusz Konieczny via talk a écrit : this relies on assumption that object tagged like - tourism=viewpoint - name=Viewpoint is always case of misusing name tag. how could anyone possibly know that this generic name is the real name? I don't know of any cases for a point of view, but it seemed to me that the wiki mentioned such a case, but I can't find it. Similarly with other that are expected attributes of viewpoints. Which others ? Comments welcome please run previously approved ones (like surface=*) before asking more edits. Regards, Marc ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically remove obvious descriptive names for viewpoints (obvious cases only, not all suspect objects)
Nov 16, 2023, 20:01 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 12:35, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > >> invalid name tag that repeats object type, and it is obvious enough that can >> be fixed remotely. >> >> "Viewpoint, entry 5 euro" >> >> "Viewpoint, no wheelchair access". >> > > Such names should not be removed until the additional data has been > transferred to a more suitable tag. > I agree. Such names will NOT be removed in this bot edit. Only name=viewpoint, name=Viewpoint and name=VIEWPOINT would be, and only on objects tagged solely as viewpoints and not as other object types. >> Note that this relies on assumption that object tagged like >> >> - tourism=viewpoint >> - name=Viewpoint >> >> is always case of misusing name tag. >> > > I dispute that that is always the case. > Can you give example of situation where viewpoint is named "Viewpoint"? Or toilet named "Toilet"? (note filtering described by me, not all names from viewpoints will be removed, names on objects tagged as not only viewpoints will not be touched either) >> - tourism=viewpoint >> - fee=yes >> - name=VIEWPOINT >> >> would be edited. >> > > Again, not 100% reliable. > > > Overall I think this would be best made into some sort of gamified > challenge, like MapRoulette, where each case can be reviewed > individually. > how MR would help here? How someone would review object with tourism=viewpoint name=Viewpoint tags? In practice MR tasks are human-executed bit edits with no actual review happening (they could be useful where correct solution needs to be selected from some available, but here it would just wait until someone would manually but still robotically remove all name tags) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tuiles manquantes à zoom=17
Bonsoir, Le 16.11.23 à 17:07, rpnpif a écrit : Savez vous s'il y a une limite au nombre de chargement des tuiles identiques d'une même zone et une même adresse IP ? Quel style ? osmcarto (le style principal sur osm.org) a une limite, d'autant + élevé que tu n'es pas authentifié et que tu ne les visualises pas depuis osm.org osm-fr n'a pas de limite automatique, quand un abus est détecté, c'est le ban (et la limite est sympa puisque nécessite une intervention humaine) Cordialement, Marc ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] Automatically remove obvious descriptive names for viewpoints (obvious cases only, not all suspect objects)
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 12:35, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > invalid name tag that repeats object type, and it is obvious enough that can > be fixed remotely. > "Viewpoint, entry 5 euro" > "Viewpoint, no wheelchair access". Such names should not be removed until the additional data has been transferred to a more suitable tag. > Note that this relies on assumption that object tagged like > > - tourism=viewpoint > - name=Viewpoint > > is always case of misusing name tag. I dispute that that is always the case. > - tourism=viewpoint > - fee=yes > - name=VIEWPOINT > > would be edited. Again, not 100% reliable. Overall I think this would be best made into some sort of gamified challenge, like MapRoulette, where each case can be reviewed individually. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-hr] Gašenje mailing liste talk-hr
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 01:38:21PM +0100, Hrvoje Bogner wrote: > Kako smo već prije dogovorili da službeni kanal za komunikaciju bude > Discourse forum tako smo sad došli do gašenja ove mailing liste. A Discourse forum je ovdje: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/hr/72 -- Opinions above are GNU-copylefted. ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tuiles manquantes à zoom=17
Le 16/11/2023 à 17:07, rpnpif a écrit : Bonjour, Je fais du développement avec Leaflet et OpenStreetmap. Les tuiles dès le niveau de zoom=17 sont déclarées manquantes (erreur 404). Je les ai demandées une dizaine de fois pour mes tests. J'ai l'impression qu'avant je pouvais accéder au zoom 19 sans problème. Savez vous s'il y a une limite au nombre de chargement des tuiles identiques d'une même zone et une même adresse IP ? Si oui elle doit être assez basse. Bonjour, Pourrais-tu donner les URLs de quelques-unes de ces dalles pour vérifier si d'autres personnes y ont accès ? ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Tuiles manquantes à zoom=17
Bonjour, Je fais du développement avec Leaflet et OpenStreetmap. Les tuiles dès le niveau de zoom=17 sont déclarées manquantes (erreur 404). Je les ai demandées une dizaine de fois pour mes tests. J'ai l'impression qu'avant je pouvais accéder au zoom 19 sans problème. Savez vous s'il y a une limite au nombre de chargement des tuiles identiques d'une même zone et une même adresse IP ? Si oui elle doit être assez basse. -- Rpnpif ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[Talk-hr] Gašenje mailing liste talk-hr
Kako smo već prije dogovorili da službeni kanal za komunikaciju bude Discourse forum tako smo sad došli do gašenja ove mailing liste. Sve mailing liste će biti arhivirane, kao što je navedeno na: https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/975 Od prve poruke 03. 09. 2009. 22:50 do ove moje današnje imali smo neke dosadne trenutke, i neke burne trenutke. Donijeli smo neke bitne i neke manje bitne odluke. Nadam se da će se diskusija nastaviti na forumu i da se svi vidimo tamo. Pozdrav svima So long and thanks for all the fish ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
[OSM-talk] Automatically remove obvious descriptive names for viewpoints (obvious cases only, not all suspect objects)
note: this was posted already at https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/automatically-remove-obvious-descriptive-names-for-viewpoints-obvious-cases-only-not-all-suspect-objects/105892if you have seen that then rest of the post has no new content posting also here as required by https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct - There are object types where mappers relatively often add invalid name tag that repeats object type, and it is obvious enough that can be fixed remotely. I was doing it with some objects, and in some cases it is often combined with very problematic tagging nearby (can link some queries if anyone wants). But for some objects use of obvious descriptive names is quite popular, to the point that manual fixing cannot keep up AND it is possible to fix it with a bot edit AND other tagging is typically fine. Sometimes there are clusters of other objects with descriptive names, but these can be found independently. And yes "Viewpoint" can be signed but it does not make it a name, like "Viewpoint, entry 5 euro" is not a name either. Or "Viewpoint, no wheelchair access". Note https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/is-name-toilet-even-theorethically-valid-for-amenity-toilets/105540 where it was discussed I propose to run automated cleanup for viewpoints. It would remove name=viewpoint (and name=Viewpoint and name=VIEWPOINT) from objects tagged only as viewpoints. Note that this relies on assumption that object tagged like - tourism=viewpoint - name=Viewpoint is always case of misusing name tag. Objects which carry unexpected tags or tags not typical for viewpoints, or note/fixme tags will be skipped. So for example - tourism=viewpoint - amenity=restaurant - name=Viewpoint well not be touched. In theoretical case of restaurant named "Viewpoint" which is also viewpoint, such object will not be modified at all. So - tourism=viewpoint - waterway=waterfall - name=Viewpoint or - tourism=viewpoint - name=Viewpoint - note=Actually named "Viewpoint" would not be edited either. (Though I do not expect last case to be ever validly tagged...) Obviously objects with just name=Viewpoint would not be edited in this edit. - tourism=viewpoint - fee=yes - name=VIEWPOINT would be edited. Similarly with other that are expected attributes of viewpoints. Bot edit would be worldwide, with edits split in parts. Edits would be repeated in future. Comments welcome - both if you see problems with this edit and if you support it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] landuse pas homogène
Bonjour, C'est parce que dans l'ouest, tu as des landuse farmland qui se superposent, et que le moteur de rendu choisit sans doute au hasard lequel représenter. Il faudrait redessiner les farmland pour les arrêter à la zone construction. Cordialement, Georges Le 16/11/2023 à 11:17, Hélène PETIT a écrit : Bonjour ! Je viens de msttre à joourla représentation de la future "zac du Rivel", dont les travaux ont déjà commenc"s, à Baziège (31). Je ne comprends pas pourquoi seule la partie du landuse à l'est du ruisseau Rivel est grisée sur le rendu. Une idée ? merci ! C'est là : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1223498162 Cordialement, Hélène ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] landuse pas homogène
Bonjour ! Je viens de msttre à joourla représentation de la future "zac du Rivel", dont les travaux ont déjà commenc"s, à Baziège (31). Je ne comprends pas pourquoi seule la partie du landuse à l'est du ruisseau Rivel est grisée sur le rendu. Une idée ? merci ! C'est là : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1223498162 Cordialement, Hélène ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
