Re: [OSM-talk] mobile unnamed roads and more layer

[ciprian niculescu]

thanks to all

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

> 2012/12/29 ciprian niculescu :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd like to have on my iphone or android, the Geofabrik Tools for
> corecting
> > roads without names, or the fixme parts etc etc
> > I searched for such an application but no luck.
> >
> > Do you know of one?
> >
> > Also one solution is to be able to get the layer, i have an application
> on
> > iphone (OpenMaps) that let me add custom layers.
>
>
> You can get the layers from Geofabrik, some are here (not sure if this
> is complete, if you search the archives there is a post from Frederik
> or Jochen which tells you all of them):
>
> "OSMI Geometry",
> "http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/geometry/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Places", "
> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/places/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Tagging",
> "http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/tagging/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Highways",
> "http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/highways/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Multipolygon",
> "http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/multipolygon/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Addresses",
> "http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/addresses/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Boundaries",
> "http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/boundaries/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Water", "
> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/water/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Routing",
> "http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/routing/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
> "OSMI Routing (non EU)",
> "http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/tiles/routing_non_eu/${z}/${x}/${y}.png";,
>
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
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[OSM-talk] mobile unnamed roads and more layer

[ciprian niculescu]

Hi,

I'd like to have on my iphone or android, the Geofabrik Tools for corecting
roads without names, or the fixme parts etc etc
I searched for such an application but no luck.

Do you know of one?

Also one solution is to be able to get the layer, i have an application on
iphone (OpenMaps) that let me add custom layers.

Cheers,

Ciprian
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Re: [OSM-talk] Planning to retire OSMI's "redaction view"

[ciprian niculescu]

Hi,

I found the layer not long ago, and use it to plan remapping.
The idea to have a dump and a zoomX tiles is a good one, also i suggest to
move it from fast updated to less fast updated, weekly, monthly.

I don't know the resources involved but i have some cpu+mem+hd to spare.

Regards,

Ciprian

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 11/11/2012 12:37 PM, Paul Norman wrote:
>
>> Would it be worth dumping the raster layer to Z9 (where it ends) and
>> making
>> that available? It gives a useful picture of the areas that were impacted
>> to
>> some extent.
>>
>
> That would be easy, and I can also make the full set of shape files
> available so that if anyone wants to create a picture for a specific area
> they can do that. The thing that uses resources is keeping the layer
> updated (i.e. dropping anything that gets removed or edited by people).
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] minutely update DB

[ciprian niculescu]

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:21 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:

> On lundi 12 novembre 2012, ciprian niculescu wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> Hi,
>
Hi,


>
> > I'm wondering why it don't exist the possibility to have minutely updates
> > (or hourly) for a country?
>
> Short answer : because no one bothered to provide that for all countries.
>
:) uuu not good


>
> Medium size answer : It does exists for some areas as christian pointed to.
> And a process exists to generate those, still, what is missing is someone
> to
> run it on a (several) server(s) and provide minutely diffs extracts.
>
nice, and the procedure is? :)


>
> Longer answer : The motivation might be low to provide such a service, low
> to
> keep pushing forward that way of doing because it isn't really flexible
> (You
> might need country X, but someone else will need country Y and some other
>
i see, so it don't scale up, it works if you want a particular area


> will need an arbitrary area) while there are other ways to achieve the same
> result, for example using
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Augmented_Diffs
> to split diffs at consumer side.
> Tought, there isn't (AFAIK) tools to handle that now.
>

i've fast read the page and look good, i'll read all the parts, and put my
questions after.


>  > I don't know what implies to make it. As far as i understand OSM to
> > host/distribute hourly diff for country, it's something like:
> > - do a minutely/hourly updates for the planet => result the planet.osm
> > - do a split of the planet.osm on the polygons of the country
> > - do a diff between the old-osm-contry and the new one => results the
> > hourlly diff for the country
> >
> > Is this process wright?
> That's one possible workflow for such a process (working directly on
> planet.osm files however won't go anywhere due to time needed to process
> the
> planet file IMHO, but storing it into some more indexed format, why not)
>

yes and/or doing some pre-filtering of things that are not needed/intended
for the end use.
Let me explain: For editing the OSM map, doing it directly in the main DB
is ok, beacouse the rendering of main slippy map is updated in minutes, but
what if i update others data (in my case the public transport), i want to
see the changes fast, not after 24h.
For one zone i see the way, but i wanted to do it as global as possible as
maybe others need this type of service.


>
> The other workflow would be to rely on special diffs (like Augmented_Diffs)
> and split those diffs according to your needs.
> The generation of planet Augmented Diffs beeing dedicated to some servers
> while consumers splits at client side.


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Re: [OSM-talk] minutely update DB

[ciprian niculescu]

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Svavar Kjarrval  wrote:

>  Hi.
>
Hi,


>
> One can make a .osm planet extract and use osmosis to keep the area
> updated. It should only apply the changes which touch nodes, ways and
> relations which are inside that particular area.
>
> I do that for Iceland with the following commands:
> /path/to/binary/of/osmosis -q 5 --rri --simc --rx iceland.osm --ac --bp
> iceland.poly clipIncompleteEntities=yes --wx iceland2.osm;
> mv iceland2.osm iceland.osm
>

I don't full understand your command, can you explain?

Thanks

Ciprian

>
> - Svavar
>
>
> On 12/11/12 12:29, ciprian niculescu wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm wondering why it don't exist the possibility to have minutely updates
> (or hourly) for a country?
>
> I don't know what implies to make it. As far as i understand OSM to
> host/distribute hourly diff for country, it's something like:
> - do a minutely/hourly updates for the planet => result the planet.osm
> - do a split of the planet.osm on the polygons of the country
> - do a diff between the old-osm-contry and the new one => results the
> hourlly diff for the country
>
> Is this process wright?
> Can a filtering by country on the planet diff be applied? This way the
> split is faster to get the diff_by_country.
>
> Ciprian
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Christian Quest 
> wrote:
>
>> If you want to maintain a Europe extracted updated, have a look at the
>> Europe diffs available here:
>> http://download.openstreetmap.fr/replication/europe/minute/
>>
>> 2012/11/4 ciprian niculescu :
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I need to have a hourly or minutely up-to date DB of OSM. I found infos
>> on
>> > how to do it, but one thing is not clear: I must keep the hole OSM DB
>> > uptodate and after extract the region i need?
>> > I need only Europe.
>> >
>> > Thanks for clarifying this for me.
>> >
>> > Ciprian
>> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] minutely update DB

[ciprian niculescu]

Hello,

I'm wondering why it don't exist the possibility to have minutely updates
(or hourly) for a country?

I don't know what implies to make it. As far as i understand OSM to
host/distribute hourly diff for country, it's something like:
- do a minutely/hourly updates for the planet => result the planet.osm
- do a split of the planet.osm on the polygons of the country
- do a diff between the old-osm-contry and the new one => results the
hourlly diff for the country

Is this process wright?
Can a filtering by country on the planet diff be applied? This way the
split is faster to get the diff_by_country.

Ciprian

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Christian Quest wrote:

> If you want to maintain a Europe extracted updated, have a look at the
> Europe diffs available here:
> http://download.openstreetmap.fr/replication/europe/minute/
>
> 2012/11/4 ciprian niculescu :
> > Hello,
> >
> > I need to have a hourly or minutely up-to date DB of OSM. I found infos
> on
> > how to do it, but one thing is not clear: I must keep the hole OSM DB
> > uptodate and after extract the region i need?
> > I need only Europe.
> >
> > Thanks for clarifying this for me.
> >
> > Ciprian
> >
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[OSM-talk] minutely update DB

[ciprian niculescu]

Hello,

I need to have a hourly or minutely up-to date DB of OSM. I found infos on
how to do it, but one thing is not clear: I must keep the hole OSM DB
uptodate and after extract the region i need?
I need only Europe.

Thanks for clarifying this for me.

Ciprian
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[OSM-talk] extract nodes by one user

[ciprian niculescu]

Hello,

i'm trying to extract from an osm file all the nodes created by a user.

i've try with osmfilter and osmosis, but something is wrong in my syntax.

Thanks

Ciprian
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Re: [OSM-talk] OWL down

[ciprian niculescu]

Hello,

I was wondering if it's not a good idea to make OWL for smaller parts of
the world, distributed on different servers. This way it will be not so far
behind :)

What are the most updated parts? Europe, US, Asia...

Can i get some statistics on the hardware: like space used, ram,
bandwidth...

I have some server power that is not used, i can make a vm for this, but :(
i also lack time those days

So first is the idea bad, super bad, so and so .

Ciprian


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Matt Amos  wrote:

> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:17 PM, John Goodman  wrote:
> > I sent a message to User "Matt" (who supposedly maintains OWL) last
> Friday,
> > but never got a reply.
>
> deepest apologies for not getting back to you. unfortunately the
> ongoing license change is absorbing all of my free time at the moment.
>
> > Even when the maps were working, its RSS feed was something like 40 days
> > behind. I posted about that two weeks ago here and no one seems to know
> what
> > is going on.
>
> the situation is: OWL was running on the development machine, but the
> load it was causing on that (shared) machine was so high that it
> generally wasn't able to keep up with the main database. to free up
> that machine so that others can actually use it, another machine was
> allocated and partially set up (called 'zark'). we hit the license
> change at around the same time, which is going to mean changes in the
> history, and OWL must be updated to be aware of those.
>
> in summary, OWL on the dev machine is probably not coming back. OWL on
> zark will be coming online after the license change, or sooner if
> someone wants to volunteer to do the rest of the development / set-up
> to get it working. *but* even if it comes back sooner, it's likely
> there will be some pretty significant re-loading to do after the
> license change is finished.
>
> cheers,
>
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[OSM-talk] info on understanding the Deep Diff page

[ciprian niculescu]

Hello,

I thought i understand the Deep Diff Page and the OSM Inspector License
Map, but not really.

I took a way that's in red on the map, it was created by someone that
didn't agreed to the license, but the way was edited by others that did
agree.

What is the significance of the colors in the Deep Diff?

Do the way is gooing to be deleted or it will stay but only the tags not
edited by a subsequent agreeing user will be deleted?

The way in question is http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=41220492

Thank's for info

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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[ciprian niculescu]

Thanks all for the input.
The "cluster config" i mean the fs cluster size, i think that is 4k on a
default ext2/3 fs


On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Phil! Gold  wrote:

> * ciprian niculescu  [2012-01-09 16:30 +0100]:
> > Nice thread on space, but what about inode number, on my server i get
> fast
> > to 100% inode used.
> > So what filesystems do you use, in what cluster config.
>
> XFS (as Grant noted) and JFS both do well with large numbers of allocated
> inodes.  ReiserFS doesn't appear to have an inode limit at all, but I tend
> to avoid it these days, mostly for reasons of personal experience: I've
> had disk failures that damaged XFS, JFS, and ReiserFS filesystems, and
> have had the best experiences recovering data from damaged JFS
> filesystems.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "cluster config", but I keep my tiles (for
> very low-demand usage) in an LVM logical volume that sits on a RAID1
> physical volume.  I don't do any disk spanning tricks for them.  My
> PostgreSQL rendering database, however, spans four 10k RPM disks in a
> RAID0 configuration.
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Re: [OSM-talk] tile rendereing total space

[ciprian niculescu]

Hi,
Nice thread on space, but what about inode number, on my server i get fast
to 100% inode used.
So what filesystems do you use, in what cluster config.
Do someone use compressed fs?

Ciprian

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Frans Thamura  wrote:

> >
> > Usage:
> > z0 to z15: 252GB  (4x 300GB 10kRPM - RAID10 - IO Utilization: 53%)
> > z16 to z18: 1020GB (2x 600GB 10kRPM - RAID0 - IO Utilization: 58%)
>
>
> we use the z18 here.. F
>
> how to know the utilization 58%, so the space only need 1.4 TB
> F
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[OSM-talk] show traces to others

[ciprian niculescu]

Hi,

I'd like to share my traces to other people, in share i mean to put the
trace on a map. I found evertrail but the map used is google i'd like osm.
I a feature on osm site that i miss?

Thanks

Ciprian
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