Re: [OSM-talk] Copyright credit on printed material

2013-04-04 Thread pavithran
On 2 April 2013 18:35, Gregory  wrote:
> I don't know about examples of printed OSM with attribution (I'm currently
> investigating an illegal use!) but the link you gave them is good.
> "OpenStreetMap.org and contributors" is acceptable by me as a community
> member, and something(that means others can find our good project) is far
> better than nothing.
check out http://compton.nu/2010/05/how-not-to-credit-openstreetmap/

Its on london cycling guide. They might have changed the attribution .

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Re: [OSM-talk] Missing attribution : Guardian Data and OII use OSM

2013-02-15 Thread pavithran
On 15 February 2013 19:35, Joseph Reeves  wrote:
> Looking at the images, I can see attribution in the bottom left corners.
> It's a little small, but it's there:

Ofcourse its there, anyone taking a screenshot , unless if it is
intentionally removed . What I am asking was a mention in the text .
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[OSM-talk] Missing attribution : Guardian Data and OII use OSM

2013-02-15 Thread pavithran
Hi ,
Anyone glancing at the image published by The Guardian data [1] could
say its a OpenStreet Map . But there was no mention of that .
I went forward and read the article in Floating sheep [2] which also
doesn't mention anything about the maps being based / are OpenStreet
Map . Ironic is the fact that the author has taken pain to give
citations/ references to Geographical Research papers but missed even
a lil bit of info on where the maps are from .

Sad to say that its coming from a research institute which studies the
"web" on issues like privacy ,copyright etc .

1. 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/gallery/2013/feb/14/africa-tweets-mapped
2 . http://www.floatingsheep.org/2013/02/the-urban-geographies-of-tweets-in.html

PS : I do realise that it[2] isnt an institute blog/press .

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Re: [OSM-talk] Being more like Wikipedia (was: OpenStreetMap Future Look)

2013-01-09 Thread pavithran
On 10 January 2013 02:41, Tom Morris  wrote:
> Scenarios where people are going to get upset over OpenStreetMaps are 
> considerably fewer than ones where people get upset with Wikipedia. (In fact, 
> when people do get upset about maps, they'll usually get upset with Wikipedia 
> too. At WikiConference India, members of the nationalist BJP protested 
> because of Wikipedia's map and description of the situation in Kashmir.*)

Though offtopic , the same group also has another set of gang or
groups which vandalises the wikipedia articles and you can hardly see
any political articles on India with NPOV ( Neutral Point Of View)
because a major group of editors come from a certain group and are
well versed with all kinds of rules which wikipedia editors use to
remove/revoke/edit an article .

Coming to mapping in India , Kashmir might be the one border issue
where  "International territory "  and "line of Control" are two
different lines and can be interpreted by various cartographers  in
whatever way it pleases them .  Google maps India doesnt even show the
line of control , google maps US shows it as a dotted line , OSM shows
it as bordder .

I would admit the fact that OSM is not that popular ( atleast in
India) that people who vandalise articles in wikipedia havent yet
started . Lets say it to the advantage of the tools being hard to use
even for the wikipedia editor , also would be the other fact that
there is less data here(India) for them to seriously consider OSM as a
map which needs to be checked up / bothered with .   Google enjoys the
complete dominant position with people fighting editor wars in
mapmaker .

Personally am I waiting for a surge of mappers ? No I am not , I would
rather see a surge in mapping and effective usage of tags , hopefully
which the future editors could clearly include some 2 minutes of
tagging tutorial .

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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2013 - Call for Venues

2012-12-19 Thread pavithran
On 19 December 2012 04:44, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2013/Call_for_venues

I am in no place to bid for a venue as its hard to find something
which matches 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2013/Call_for_venues#Criteria
but I have a wishlist for the location .

I really really want it to be held at a developing country where OSM
data is very less , some place where there is hardly any open geo data
source  or even a strong community of mappers .

By suggesting such a place I know I am also foolishly suggesting a
place where its hard to organise an event and would have a scarcity of
local volunteers but a SOTM at any such country would bring in a lot
of enthusiasm , team of excellent mappers, developers and will give a
huge push to Govt / GIS bodies to open up their data and also a huge
boost / thumbs up to the local community .

 The developed world have already their own SOTM-EU and SOTM-US and
moreover their maps are very much presentable and in some case the
maps are much better than the commercial/propreitary ones .
Unfortuanately the same couldnt be said for the maps in the other
parts where routing doesnt work , the relations are mis tagged and
lack of data sources are problems to name few.

Its just a wish and hope I havent offended anyone .

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Re: [OSM-talk] New OpenStreetMap tile server

2012-12-19 Thread pavithran
On 18 December 2012 23:44, Richard Weait  wrote:
>> The OpenStreetMap Foundation is pleased to announce new OSM
>> infrastructure, in the form of a new tile server, located in Pau, France.
>> Details on the OSMF Blog.
>  http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/12/18/new-tile-server-in-pau-france/

Merci beaucoup PauLLA ,  Université de Pau et des Pays de l’Adour et
Communauté d’Agglomération de Pau Pyrénées  .
Its always nice to have Tile CDN's based on geo locations , would take
lot of load off the main server and make it more decentralised :)

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Re: [OSM-talk] "China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy" - China Daily

2012-10-19 Thread pavithran
On 19 October 2012 16:15, Dongpo  wrote:
> That's the accuracy they concern. Even though those are not facts,
> they still persist to claim those areas are belong to China.
> "Accuracy"!?

That means some of the Indian borders with china should be watched !
They do have some claims on Indian territorial lands .

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Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response

2012-09-25 Thread pavithran
On 22 September 2012 15:18, Lester Caine  wrote:
> I feel we should all be pressing to Apple to produce an overview of the
> sources of the data on their 'mashup'. My son has a copy and it does seem
> that you can 'easily see the joins' between different sources, but
> identifying what data IS attributable to OSM seems difficult? And where
> other data comes from.

+1 this mashup of theirs without clear explanation on which data is
coming from where is creating some bad publicity for openstreetmap .
I hope atleast some volunteers who havse ios6 can check and report
their countries/regions are carrying/not carrying OSM data .

What about the license ? Does no one bother about it anymore ?

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Re: [OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response

2012-09-21 Thread pavithran
On 21 September 2012 16:09, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
> Does this mean that all of those maps are now under OdbL? (At least,
> if they use up to date data only available under ODbL?)

That raises some interesting questions because ODBL planet was
available only recently , Did apple wait till last minute to get them
? Or are they mixing the old planet(CC by SA) with new datasets(ODBL)
?

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[OSM-talk] [possibly OT] Apples IOS 6 Maps and the response

2012-09-20 Thread pavithran
The new map replacement from apple in its IOS has drawn a lot of criticism .

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/20/apple-maps-ios6-station-towe>
Within minutes of the launch of the iOS6 operating system, which comes
preloaded with Apple Maps, users were reporting that London had been
relocated to Ontario, Paddington station had vanished, the Sears Tower
in Chicago had shrunk, and Helsinki railway station had been turned
into a park.



Having said that How much is it OSM data?  There have been messages
saying its the TomTom data but if you look at
http://gspa21.ls.apple.com/html/attribution.html
there is a line "(OSM)
OpenStreetMap contributors, http://www.openstreetmap.org/ "

Pretty confusing and sad to say that many of the comments were against
the map app and suggesting that they would hardly  accept anything
other than google maps .

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Re: [OSM-talk] New study on OSM from the University of Heidelberg (OpenStreetMap study shows around 192, 000 active users)

2012-08-01 Thread pavithran
On 1 August 2012 03:20, Michael Kugelmann  wrote:
> FYI: there is a new study available from the university of Heidelberg
> regarding OSM. Please see
> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenStreetMap-study-shows-around-192-000-active-users-1656609.html

72% of users who had contributed data to the project at least
once were from Europe. North America came a distant second at 12%,
followed by Asia (8%), South America (3%), Australia (2%), Africa (2%)
and Oceania (1%). 
More SOTM's in Asia and more GPS devices could change things in Asia
which contains 60 % of human population .

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model

2011-12-07 Thread pavithran
On 7 December 2011 13:08, Kate Chapman  wrote:
> Frans, there have been other projects working with highschool students
> to map in OSM.  The problems and mistakes made can be cleaned up by
> the community
+ 1  . Frans could lead the community to correct all those pranks(if
done) made by the kid , provided that all kid usernames are monitored
.


> and there are tools that the teacher could use to
> monitor who is doing what.  Since there is a user account associated
> with each student you could even associate their edits with a grade if
> you wanted to.

Grade with edit sounds nice ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM streaming!

2011-09-14 Thread pavithran
On 15 September 2011 10:30, Toby Murray  wrote:
> I just linked all of my videos on the SOTM 2011 wiki page:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2011
Thanks a lot :)

> Enjoy! As for the parts that aren't good enough to be enjoyable...
> well... you should have come to SOTM in person!  :)

Well if SOTM was somewhere in asia and near to India  I would surely
try to attend if I dont get stuck in any of those damned visa hassles
.
Until then its videos, blogs and presentations for me .

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[OSM-talk] SOTM blog collection

2011-09-14 Thread pavithran
can someone post all the blog links here on their SOTM posts ?
Its sad that I can't find any in http://www.openstreetmap.org/diary

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Re: [OSM-talk] Happy SysAdmin Day

2011-07-29 Thread pavithran
On 29 July 2011 18:21, Richard Weait  wrote:
> Happy SysAdmin Day to all of the System Administrators on the list.
>
> And especially to our very own admins for OpenStreetMap.

Yeah JBurgess, Firefishy , TomH and all others at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/System_Administrators  a very happy
sys admin day to you .

Its great to have you guys @ OSM :) You rock !

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Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-21 Thread pavithran
On 21 July 2011 21:12, Andreas Labres  wrote:
> it's just a matter of time doing the mixing &
> encoding (in contrast to the Matterhorn system, which ran automatically, this
> has to be done manually...).
Ohh thats an extra work . Will patiently wait :)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Sotm-EU11: thanks to the organisation committee

2011-07-20 Thread pavithran
On 19 July 2011 18:39, Patrick Weber  wrote:
> Yes, would be great to be able to download the videos!
+1 the flash player doesnt load on chrome browser plus it is very slow
and I can't see it paused. Woder why its not caching .

If a direct link for video is given . I could wget video.flv and watch
it on vlc or some local player .

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Re: [OSM-talk] Leaflet 0.2 released

2011-06-22 Thread pavithran
On 22 June 2011 03:03, Vladimir Agafonkin  wrote:
> Leaflet, a new JavaScript library for interactive maps by CloudMade,
> recently reached version 0.2.

Thank you .
 /me likes # Improved panning performance in Chrome and FF
considerably with the help of requestAnimationFrame. #130

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Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-11 Thread pavithran
On 11 June 2011 19:40, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> I'll let you into a secret. The real power in OSM _isn't_ Steve's secret
> portal in his basement. Nor even Fake Steve's. It's here:
> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/ [1]

Good one :)

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Re: [OSM-talk] tile downloads

2011-06-10 Thread pavithran
On 10 June 2011 05:06, Geza Gyuk  wrote:
> Thanks to all who answered so quickly,
> I've gotten a lot of great advice, suggestions, leads and offers of help!
> This will really help out our program and make the experience for the kids
> much better. I'll be sure to credit OSM data and the OSM community for its
> assistance!


Glad to hear that . I could also generate custom tiles for you with
any styling requirements . Like change road colours , land colours etc
.
again I am happy to hear that you are using OSM for your project .

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Re: [OSM-talk] The White House uses OpenStreetMap

2011-05-27 Thread pavithran
On 27 May 2011 16:27, Vladimir Agafonkin  wrote:
> It also uses CloudMade by the way :) http://www.whitehouse.gov/change

Not completely cloudmade , it uses mapbox at
http://www.whitehouse.gov/mapping_service/inventory/14 and uses
OSM_mapnik tiles at
http://www.whitehouse.gov/mapping_service/inventory/525
Hmm 3 things !
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Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Tracing

2010-11-26 Thread pavithran
On 26 November 2010 22:56, Nic Roets  wrote:
> The devil may still be in the detail. Such as limits on zoom levels and / or
> coverage or even a requirement that tracing can only be done in Silverlight.

You mean moonlight ?

Anyways , just waiting for it to be available to trace via JOSM .

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Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-24 Thread pavithran
On 25 November 2010 00:03, Emilie Laffray  wrote:
>> But on the other OSM should not be as a big companies wants it to be.
>
> I agree with the statement that OSM should be what OSM wants to be. If the
> goal of OSM coincides with those companies, good, else we should not move
> out of our way to serve those companies interest.

Exactly , I am afraid of these big names and their influence . Oracle
and the set of forks which evolved from the FOSS projects it bought
out (call it ownership ! ) should be a eye opener !

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Re: [OSM-talk] license change map

2010-11-11 Thread pavithran
On 11 November 2010 22:11, Fabian Schmidt
 wrote:
>
> As the license thermometer[1] turns greener I was interested in how far this
> already effects the map data. So using the planet history I took a closer
> look on the ways.

Thanks . Nice map and stats .

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data and Google Maps

2010-11-02 Thread pavithran
On 2 November 2010 14:11, Ed Parsons  wrote:
> Although we feel unable to license OSM data at
> present, we remain supporters of the project, and we will without question
> act in a similar way if the rights of the OSM community and your data is
> abused.

Thats cool . Glad to hear from you ed .  you guys are doing
great .. we will catch up some day ;) 

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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM11 will be held in Denver.

2010-10-24 Thread pavithran
On 24 October 2010 14:15, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
>> In one of the following years, I think we should go to Asia for the same
>> reasons.
>
> +1. Yes, please. :-)

Atleast US had SOTM USA and both CM and Mapquest pushing mapping with
lot of AVAILABLE data from tiger or other Govt areas .

In Asia we rarely get data sources . I think the focus should be
turned towards asia .  Hope to see the event at bangalore,singapore or
shanghai ;)

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[OSM-talk] Bangalore mapping Party

2010-09-23 Thread pavithran
Hey guys .. I am almost done packing my GPS device off to bangalore .

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Inpycon_2010_Bangalore

OSM Mapping party is happening right in the Python Conference at MS
Ramaiah Inst of Technology , Bangalore , India .

We also have a talk on OSM and Python
http://in.pycon.org/2010/talks/27-openstreetmap.org-and-python

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: SFK100 Press Release

2010-09-22 Thread pavithran
On 22 September 2010 23:25, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
> Overall, over 20 topics will be discussed, ranging from issues
> associated with the Free Encyclopedia Wikipedia, GNU/Linux,
> intellectual property licenses, building of communities,
> OpenStreetMap, Sugar, and many other topics in the field of free
> software.
> The conference is free to participants during the two days. The
> presentations and detailed information on the conference can be found
> at www.kosovasoftwarefreedom.org

Criticism:
http://www.kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/index.php/travelling/about-kosovo.html
There is a flash based interactive map , though is of flash , was OSM
used to prepare that map ?


http://www.kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/index.php/travelling/how-to-get-to-prishtina.html
Again what about this map ?


Also surprised to see a "facebook connect" link right beside "what is
free software" link ?

>Copyright © 2010 Software Freedom Kosova Conference. All Rights Reserved.
>Joomla! is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL License.

Thanfully you are crediting free software. Anyways the website uses
free software propogates free software but has problem practising it !

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: SFK100 Press Release

2010-09-22 Thread pavithran
On 22 September 2010 23:25, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

> The conference is held under the auspices of the Office of the Prime
> Minister of the Republic of Kosovo and is supported by a number of
> donors from whom it is worth mentioning: the Ministry of Energy and
> Mining, Mozilla, Rrota, PC World Albanian and the University of
> Prishtina Student Center.

Wow thats a good number of people from the govt. I think this is a
chance to push the libre stack into every aspect of Govt operations .
There would be lot of  'NO' , 'We can't ' nevertheless is an
opportunity and we need to patiently spread the message keeping in
mind that it would make a lot of impact .

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Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-20 Thread pavithran
On 21 September 2010 01:53, Valent Turkovic  wrote:
> I really need so spell it out to them what is the advantage for them
> locally. To be blunt they probably don't care what we did on Haiti or
> other parts of the world, but they would like to know how OSM could be
> used locally for our town. Project documentation is clear that they will
> support only projects that benefit local population.

Completely agree . You need to cleverly give the benefits almost like
you are convincing a business client .

One thing I could give is Apart from croud sourcing , data
availability you could definitely pitch for localised maps . Localised
for that town council . If there is huge support from the Town council
I bet we(you me or anyone) could make a huge change in the way local
data is presented and harnessed by websites,print etc !

Go for it . Its a good initiative and All the best :)

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Re: [OSM-talk] How to view villages etc., at lesser zoom levels

2010-09-20 Thread pavithran
On 20/09/2010, Tanveer Singh  wrote:
>  Sadly, it does not run properly on linux. Is there some way to make this
> happen on openstreetmap web page or something?

Hmm its definitely hard to get all the POI's in mapnik . But
Osmarender (t...@h) can accommodate new Points of Interest .

1. See that the tag which is used for that particular point is in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_features
You can file a ticket for both the rendering engines if it is available .
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/

2. Is the tag widely used ?
  Yes = Do mention them here .
  No = Than see if an appropriate tag could be used , If not propose a new tag .

Its a bit of tiring/long process to get new stuff into the map hosted
at OSM website . The easiest thing you could do is to have your own
rendering .
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rendering
Since you have mentioned Jammu & Kashmir .Lawgon has been running a
mapnik instance for India .
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India#Rendering_Server

You can ask him to include our desi tags on the map :)

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Re: [OSM-talk] how to track a nokia E 71

2010-09-07 Thread pavithran
On 8 September 2010 10:32, Kenneth Gonsalves  wrote:
> What I want to do is to be
> able to track the movement of the E71 on my map on the server - I know
> it is something to do with gpsd - any one can give me some pointers on
> how to do this or where to look for resources on this?

You want to track it live right ?

Use tangogps which takes input from a gpsd process and tracks :)
http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/About

I couldn't make it( tangogps on Debian sid) download tiles from a
separate rendering server or for that matter not even from osm or
google maps . It just tries and tries and gives up .

Anyways on your distribution and hardware it  mostly might be working .

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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM.us videos

2010-08-28 Thread pavithran
On 29 August 2010 00:39, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason  wrote:
> That's great. What was the status of the non-US SOTM videos, are those
> up somewhere yet?

The last I heard there was some lack of volunteers to edit and time
frame the videos .

I hope it could be croudsourced .

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik (was: Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad)

2010-08-20 Thread pavithran
On 20 August 2010 19:20, Klaus Hartl  wrote:
> Basically, i'd really like to find out which group of people contributes to
> the mapnik rendering styles. Is there a specific mailing list for graphic
> style discussions somewhere?

There is none listed at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo but
for minor Osmarender discussions we use
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tilesathome

AFAIK to communicate with them(mapnik on OSM)
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&component=mapnik&order=priority
is a list of tickets . You can add one .

Also come to #osm on irc://irc.oftc.net  to directly talk if you want
a quick response.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik rendering of nature reserve is very, very bad

2010-08-20 Thread pavithran
On 20 August 2010 14:53, Vladimir Vyskocil  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For example, look at this :
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.3229&lon=-61.5603&zoom=13&layers=M
>
> The green overlay with NR letter cover almost everything, lands and sea ! It 
> is hard to even distinguish what is the sea around the island.
> Can't this be fixed ? Prehaps make it render like natural parc : green 
> boundary, very light green filling and no NR letter ? prehaps only render the 
> boundary

Osmarendering is better
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.3315&lon=-61.554&zoom=13&layers=O

By the way what kind of nature reserve is that inside water ? some
protected waters ?

Re: "NR" for natural reserve . IMHO using names for landuses doesn't
look good . Replacing it with some other art work which converys the
same meaning would be a better idea.

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Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?

2010-08-11 Thread pavithran
On 15 July 2010 19:07, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:
> of course that will happen in the next weeks but shouting like this isn't
> gonna motivate people i guess...

> pavithran wrote:
>>> yes, both tracks will be recorded.
>>
>> Could some one please take time to upload the videos !
>>
>> Also those who have spoke but haven't uploaded slides please do upload
>> your slides ( now that most of you have reached your home)
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010#Sessions_list
>> has lot of red colour , no page links . do correct them ;)


Well for starters avoid top posting in FOSS mailing lists . If you
felt that I was shouting I don't mind .

The motivation to upload videos has been lacking but I being in some
distant land couldn't make it to SOTM but watched the stream which ran
on a poor netbook ,was waiting for the high quality streams to get
uploaded .

I am *still* looking out for the videos and I hope OSM as a community
could make something similar to what debian does .
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Shameless Promotion/New OSM Renderer

2010-08-11 Thread pavithran
On 12 August 2010 00:45, John Harvey  wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I'm one of the many people who make "offline" maps for the iPhone/iPad/iPod
> Touch.  I charge for my products but for a limited time, I'm making one
> (Atlanta) free:

I am more shameless to ask if you can make one for India or Indian
cities please and release it as free beer .

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Re: [OSM-talk] Bing

2010-08-03 Thread pavithran
On 4 August 2010 05:34, Ben Last  wrote:
> Actually, NearMap already do OSM tiles for the whole world, down to
> z=24, if you really want to zoom in that far...
> Cheers

Well first of all nice to see someone doing the whole world in Z=24 .
I am being a critic here to say that you guys haven't properly styled
the mapnik to adapt for higher zoom levels .
Ex: at z22 the cluttering algo still works when two POI's are more far
than needed for cluttering .
Also at Z22 a name on the secondary road was not properly displayed ..
the distance  between letters as too huge.

Anyways its hard to check every line for every style sheet . Good
effort :) Hope it encourages others.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Bing

2010-08-03 Thread pavithran
On 4 August 2010 01:52, Nathan Edgars II  wrote:
> I was hoping they'd give us an extra zoom level. Oh well.

I bet they have even resources to give z20 or z19 . C'mon Bing you can
rock ! Do something new :P

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Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for participants to test OSM-based audio maps

2010-07-17 Thread pavithran
On 18 July 2010 04:53, Esther Loeliger  wrote:
>
> To play the game, please download the installer from
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/team/. It should install without problems
> on Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 (32-bit and 64-bit).

Ahh windoze.. Sorry I use free software as in Debian GNU/Linux . Can't
run a non-free distro .

> The game has been designed with accessibility in mind, so blind and
> partially sighted participants are very much encouraged to take part.
> I'd be delighted if you'd be happy to play the game.

Very happy to see some one working on accessibility . All the best
with your project .

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Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?

2010-07-14 Thread pavithran
On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:
> > If they can't be streamed live, are they still going to be recorded?
> >
>
> yes, both tracks will be recorded.

Could some one please take time to upload the videos !

Also those who have spoke but haven't uploaded slides please do upload
your slides ( now that most of you have reached your home)

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010#Sessions_list
has lot of red colour , no page links . do correct them ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread pavithran
On 10 July 2010 03:39, Fabio Alessandro Locati  wrote:
> I hope AOL will put people (paid by them, obviously) to improve all
> the maps and merge the changes into the OSM db... it would be
> wonderful :)

+1
Upstream contributions are very much welcome and promotes a healthy
relationship between projects :)

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Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?

2010-07-07 Thread pavithran
On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn  wrote:
> yes, both tracks will be recorded.

It would be nice to have video streaming .
Anyways please update
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sotm10&result_type=recent second
 by second :P Atleast we will have a live  text stream ;)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-06-06 Thread pavithran
On 6 June 2010 18:33, Fabio Alessandro Locati  wrote:
> After close to a month... no news.. so... will this happens or not?

I wish it happens . So that I could see( see as in
get_rendered_officially) bazaars on the map!
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbazaar

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Re: [OSM-talk] Planet file now at 10 GB

2010-06-04 Thread pavithran
On 4 June 2010 14:43, Werner Hoch  wrote:
> On Donnerstag, 3. Juni 2010, John Smith wrote:
>
>> I'd still like to know the actual stats of users v accounts, to me a

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stats

Wow nice numbers !

Avg of 600,000 nodes per day !
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/0/0b/Osmdbstats7A.png

Avg 5 % of total users contributing ( last month)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osmdbstats8.png

BTW I don't understand this stats
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osmdbstats1.png could some one
break it down for me in simple words ?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Flash and open source

2010-05-19 Thread pavithran
On 15 May 2010 13:59, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> Adobe has explicitly said in the past that they can't open source it
>> because they've used a lot of parts in in that they've licensed from
>> somewhere else.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/de/products/eula/third_party/flashplayer/
>
> Pretty much all the "all rights reserved" stuff is codecs. Like I say,
> video is moving to HTML5 anyway and shouldn't distract from the wider
> Flash Player.

On a related note Google,Mozilla and Opera have joined to announce[1]
a new open video format called webm [2].
It’s licensed using a BSD-style license. “WebM and the codecs it
supports (VP8 video and Vorbis audio) require no royalty payments of
any kind.

Chromium, Firefox, and Opera builds are available today[3]. Chrome
builds will shortly follow. No statement yet from Microsoft or Apple
regarding support in their platforms.
1.http://webmproject.blogspot.com/2010/05/introducing-webm-open-web-media-project.html
2. http://www.webmproject.org/about/
3. http://www.webmproject.org/users/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Extra zoom level needed?

2010-05-17 Thread pavithran
On 17 May 2010 17:32, Gregory  wrote:
> Now a lot of places are full of pro-mappers, we are doing house numbers,
> shops, football pitch lines...
> Do we need an extra zoom level?

YES and I was thinking of posting about it but waited because I want
to learn about simple tiles generation for small area using osmarender
(where I could set my own zoom level and was suggested by amm at diary
http://bit.ly/8Z6ieY ) . Openstreetmap could enrich the map experience
like never before, now that some experienced mappers have started
mapping shops inside a shopping mall .

It definitely makes mapping easy in developing areas where most of the
shops are situated side by side in a small area which is in contrast
to UK/european shops which occupy large areas .

Here is a small Tale of two shops : One nice lane in a bazaar of a
small town I found two bakeries . One lies almost opposite to other .
The nice bakery is called 'Taj bakery'  other one is 'Golden Bakery '
Mapnik in a lower zoom level shows it as Golden bakery . I actually
zoomed to a higher zoom level witha hope to see both bakeries .
Unfortunately it could show only golden bakery :( Seeing it with data
only shows the POI .  I stopped mapping all the bazaars because Indian
streets unfortunately are constructed as bazaars with sometimes
collection of similar selling item. And I am forced to NOT map
selectively some shop when I am mapping those bazaars . Selecting some
shop as important and some shop as not important is very daunting task
:(  Higher population areas have close knit shops I am wondering why
someone has not demanded for detailed mapping in those areas.

Coming to extra processing power & bandwidth  I think its time to move
ahead . I think that atleast osmarender which has a lower zoom level
when compared to mapnik and should immediately set to mapnik  zoom
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Re: [OSM-talk] Flash and open source

2010-05-15 Thread pavithran
On 14 May 2010 22:38, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> I would encourage people to sign the petition at http://openplayer.net/
> encouraging Adobe to make the Flash Player open source.

Increasing the pressure on adobe ?
Adobe has open sourced flex . There is a video player from flash which
is opensource . Overall some of them might not be purely free software
but adobe definitely is being careful ;)

Other than AJAX is there an opensource alternative in widespread usage ?

Re:flash video I think its going to die as most popular browsers like
FF ,IE,chrome and Safari are supporting HTML5 (M$ and Apple to support
their own codecs/formats )

There are huge set of multimedia & graphic designers living on Adobe
and its products . If they are educated and are made to sign this
petition maybe adobe will listen .

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Re: [OSM-talk] Map internationalisation

2010-05-10 Thread pavithran
On 10 May 2010 14:57, Gregory  wrote:
> I see the town/city named with some Arabic-like script, until zoom 15 where
> it is "Nizampet".
> So I think your browser has cached the map tiles.

Yes that seems to be the case .  I could see the town name in telugu.
But there are problems
* The shape of the font is bad
* Font rendering has its share of problems which are common to all
indic fonts .

I have found http://trac.mapnik.org/ticket/112

If the above is the case with mapnik ,its quite strange that there is
no fallback option for osmarender which is not displaying any name (
neither name=nameintelugu nor name:en=nameinenglish)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Map internationalisation

2010-05-10 Thread pavithran
On 10 May 2010 01:27, Peter Körner  wrote:
> Am 09.05.2010 20:00, schrieb pavithran:
>>
>> I have waited days to see it in action . But nothing has changed the
>> name is still getting displayed in english . Has it got anything to do
>> with web admin marking an area for that language ?
>
> Can you please give a link to that area? Sometimes the tiles for an area are
> cached in your browser or on the server for days..

I marked some tiles as dirty to get the tiles refreshed . But there
was no use .
Here is the link for that place http://osm.org/go/y8IVFhG-
and link for the node http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/571122168

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Re: [OSM-talk] Map internationalisation

2010-05-09 Thread pavithran
On 30 April 2010 13:35, Emilie Laffray  wrote:
> The map is rendering elements only when they are in name. You would need
> to specify name:te for rendering to make use of the name:te. If the
> Telugu is the established name for this area, I would put the text in
> name in addition to name:te.

I have added the tags

Name=nameintelegu
Name:te=nameintelegu
Name:en=nameinenglish

I have waited days to see it in action . But nothing has changed the
name is still getting displayed in english . Has it got anything to do
with web admin marking an area for that language ?

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[OSM-talk] Map internationalisation

2010-04-30 Thread pavithran
Hi all ,

I would like to display a Telugu name for some places. Telugu is an Indian
language with  ISO code 'te' . I tried keeping  name:te=ఖమ్మం   I mean in
english name:te=citynameintelugu
This is not getting displayed in local language .  Is this due to some
rendering issue ?  I am asking cause I could see other languages like
Tamil,hindi and Kannada (neighbouring states ) getting properly rendered.
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