[OSM-talk] Two questions about routing

2009-11-26 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi all,
  Looks like the routing list doesn't get much traffic, so hope it's
ok to ask two routing questions here:

1) I've ordered a Garmin Oregon 550. Will it be possible to do live
routing with OSM data, including bike paths?

(I'm pretty sure the first part is yes. It's the second bit I'm
worried about - will it be able to route from roads to off-road bike
paths back to roads... I mean doing the routing on the GSPr itself,
not precomputing it.)

2) I'm using the CloudMade site to test routing and fix bike paths in
my local area accordingly. But they only update their data once a week
or so. Is there a better way? What would I have to download and
install to be able to have a shorter turnaround time?


A bit of context: I only just discovered that with cloudmade, you can
route along bike paths. Incredible. I tested it for a couple of rides
I've done in the last year or two, and it instantly figured out
virtually the exact same route I used (including major roads, bike
paths, rail trails...) I find this extremely cool and have been fixing
up the bike paths, adding more links to roads etc. And now I want this
routing with me all the time! :)

Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] Two questions about routing

2009-11-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/11/2009 18:55, Steve Bennett wrote:
 2) I'm using the CloudMade site to test routing and fix bike paths in
 my local area accordingly. But they only update their data once a week
 or so. Is there a better way? What would I have to download and
 install to be able to have a shorter turnaround time?

(for UK only:) try CycleStreets: www.cyclestreets.net updated daily.

David


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Re: [OSM-talk] Two questions about routing

2009-11-26 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 6:01 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
 (for UK only:) try CycleStreets: www.cyclestreets.net updated daily.

Whoops, should have specified. Melbourne, Australia.

Steve

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Re: [OSM-talk] Two questions about routing

2009-11-26 Thread Tomáš Tichý

 2) I'm using the CloudMade site to test routing and fix bike paths in
 my local area accordingly. But they only update their data once a week
 or so. Is there a better way? What would I have to download and
 install to be able to have a shorter turnaround time?



There is routing plugin for JOSM:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/JOSM/Plugins/Routing
but I'm not sure, if it can route along bike ways.

TT

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Re: [OSM-talk] Two questions about routing

2009-11-26 Thread Craig Wallace
On 26/11/2009 18:55, Steve Bennett wrote:
 Hi all,
Looks like the routing list doesn't get much traffic, so hope it's
 ok to ask two routing questions here:

 1) I've ordered a Garmin Oregon 550. Will it be possible to do live
 routing with OSM data, including bike paths?

 (I'm pretty sure the first part is yes. It's the second bit I'm
 worried about - will it be able to route from roads to off-road bike
 paths back to roads... I mean doing the routing on the GSPr itself,
 not precomputing it.)

Simple answer is yes. Set the Calculate routes for option to bicycle, 
and it should create routes that use bike paths. Though I've not used 
the Oregon, but on most Garmin's the bicycle routing is not very good 
IME. It has a tendency to take huge detours to avoid small sections of 
main roads.
You could try Openmtbmap - its OSM maps for Garmins, but with the road 
types edited so bicycle routing works better: http://openmtbmap.org/

 2) I'm using the CloudMade site to test routing and fix bike paths in
 my local area accordingly. But they only update their data once a week
 or so. Is there a better way? What would I have to download and
 install to be able to have a shorter turnaround time?

Seeing as you want the data on your Garmin, you could download it in OSM 
format, and test routing in Garmin Mapsource (assuming you have it 
installed).
There's quite a few places that provide OSM data in Garmin format (eg 
Openmtbmap as above), but most are only updated weekly or so.

Or you can download the OSM data for your area, then use mkgmap to 
convert it to Garmin format, and use it in Mapsource. This means it can 
be more up to date, though its more complicated. Instructions here: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin

Craig

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Re: [OSM-talk] Two questions about routing

2009-11-26 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Simple answer is yes. Set the Calculate routes for option to bicycle,
 and it should create routes that use bike paths. Though I've not used
 the Oregon, but on most Garmin's the bicycle routing is not very good
 IME. It has a tendency to take huge detours to avoid small sections of
 main roads.
 You could try Openmtbmap - its OSM maps for Garmins, but with the road
 types edited so bicycle routing works better: http://openmtbmap.org/

Looks like Openmtbmap is only europe/africa, but there are some useful
links from there. Plenty to play with, thanks!

 Seeing as you want the data on your Garmin, you could download it in OSM
 format, and test routing in Garmin Mapsource (assuming you have it
 installed).
 There's quite a few places that provide OSM data in Garmin format (eg
 Openmtbmap as above), but most are only updated weekly or so.

Yeah, looks like there are quite a few options. Now to find one that works...

Thanks again,
Steve

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