Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
On 15 July 2010 19:07, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > of course that will happen in the next weeks but shouting like this isn't > gonna motivate people i guess... > pavithran wrote: >>> yes, both tracks will be recorded. >> >> Could some one please take time to upload the videos ! >> >> Also those who have spoke but haven't uploaded slides please do upload >> your slides ( now that most of you have reached your home) >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010#Sessions_list >> has lot of red colour , no page links . do correct them ;) Well for starters avoid top posting in FOSS mailing lists . If you felt that I was shouting I don't mind . The motivation to upload videos has been lacking but I being in some distant land couldn't make it to SOTM but watched the stream which ran on a poor netbook ,was waiting for the high quality streams to get uploaded . I am *still* looking out for the videos and I hope OSM as a community could make something similar to what debian does . http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/ Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
True, from an end-user POV, its hard to see what goes on in the background. So its a toss-up, for time. Spending volunteer time and effort on remote attendence, or on the people who actually showed up in person. Having a remote attendence conference can probably be an event in its self. So ya, if i was actually there in person, i'd go for spending time actually meeting people in person. Afterall, we can connect with everyone using the mediums we already have. So i resind my comment, and hope to be able to be there next year. :-) and i look forward to seeing whatever videos soundbytes photos that were made :) Cheers, Sam On 7/15/10, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > of course that will happen in the next weeks but shouting like this isn't > gonna motivate people i guess... > > gr, > floris > > pavithran wrote: >> On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: >>> > If they can't be streamed live, are they still going to be recorded? >>> > >>> >>> yes, both tracks will be recorded. >> >> Could some one please take time to upload the videos ! >> >> Also those who have spoke but haven't uploaded slides please do upload >> your slides ( now that most of you have reached your home) >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010#Sessions_list >> has lot of red colour , no page links . do correct them ;) >> >> Regards, >> Pavithran >> >> >> >> -- >> pavithran sakamuri >> http://look-pavi.blogspot.com >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
of course that will happen in the next weeks but shouting like this isn't gonna motivate people i guess... gr, floris pavithran wrote: > On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: >> > If they can't be streamed live, are they still going to be recorded? >> > >> >> yes, both tracks will be recorded. > > Could some one please take time to upload the videos ! > > Also those who have spoke but haven't uploaded slides please do upload > your slides ( now that most of you have reached your home) > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010#Sessions_list > has lot of red colour , no page links . do correct them ;) > > Regards, > Pavithran > > > > -- > pavithran sakamuri > http://look-pavi.blogspot.com > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
hey, bandwidth was not the problem. it was on a wired connection with plenty of bandwidth. the plan was to try things out before friday but we didn't have the time to do that... we we're gonna use the firewire connection on the professional panasonic camera in the venue but didn't get that to work and we tried zillions of things. we spend most of the friday trying to work it out. so we had to come up with an alternative which was getting some usb video capture devices and plug them in via composite video signal. unfortunately the netbooks we used weren't fast enough to compress video realtime on a reasonable quality. we couldn't find other windows laptops (with audio in) which we could use all weekend. there are two ways to stream to ustream.tv, one is the dedicated app, which turned out te be a cpu-hogging app and the other through flash. unfortunately the flash app did some weird chopping of the video. but in the end (from saturday 12.00 or so) the audio was allright which is the most important thing if you ask me. i also didn't get much complaints after getting this to work so i thought it was ok. greetings, floris looijesteijn Sam Vekemans wrote: > Thanks, thats a good reason why it didnt work right. > There was only so much bandwidth going to the hall (from the outside) > so no matter how many 'stream boosters' are setup, its still alot of > volume. > Perhaps it should be on the list for the next SOTM11 ? To make sure > that there is multiple bandwith sources, since Ustream.tv 'could' > become a large part of the audience where remote attendence is > equal/greater to physical attendence. Multiple laptops can be set up > to stream the event live with 'co-hosting'. And tinychat.com can also > be used. (and different languages promoted with translators) :) > > Cheers, > Sam > > On 7/7/10, John F. Eldredge wrote: >> >> At a guess, there may not be enough bandwidth available for video >> streaming. >> I have seen the results of trying to stream video over an >> overly-congested >> connection; the results are annoyingly jerky. >> >> >> ---Original Email--- >> Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream? >> From :mailto:pavithra...@gmail.com >> Date :Wed Jul 07 16:13:55 America/Chicago 2010 >> >> >> On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: >>> yes, both tracks will be recorded. >> >> It would be nice to have video streaming . >> Anyways please update >> http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sotm10&result_type=recent second >> by second :P Atleast we will have a live text stream ;) >> >> Regards, >> Pavithran >> -- >> pavithran sakamuri >> http://look-pavi.blogspot.com >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> -- >> John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com >> "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than >> not >> to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > > > -- > Twitter: @Acrosscanada > Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ > http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans > Skype: samvekemans > IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) > @Acrosscanadatrails > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
On 15 July 2010 14:16, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Thanks, thats a good reason why it didnt work right. > There was only so much bandwidth going to the hall (from the outside) > so no matter how many 'stream boosters' are setup, its still alot of > volume. > Perhaps it should be on the list for the next SOTM11 ? To make sure > that there is multiple bandwith sources, since Ustream.tv 'could' > become a large part of the audience where remote attendence is > equal/greater to physical attendence. Multiple laptops can be set up > to stream the event live with 'co-hosting'. And tinychat.com can also > be used. (and different languages promoted with translators) :) > Sure we will hire translators next year More seriously, finding volunteer translators is not easy (understatement) and paying one let alone several is very expensive. As for bandwith, it is not cheap either if you really want good speed and some locations may not have the capacity to host our load. Emilie Laffray ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
Thanks, thats a good reason why it didnt work right. There was only so much bandwidth going to the hall (from the outside) so no matter how many 'stream boosters' are setup, its still alot of volume. Perhaps it should be on the list for the next SOTM11 ? To make sure that there is multiple bandwith sources, since Ustream.tv 'could' become a large part of the audience where remote attendence is equal/greater to physical attendence. Multiple laptops can be set up to stream the event live with 'co-hosting'. And tinychat.com can also be used. (and different languages promoted with translators) :) Cheers, Sam On 7/7/10, John F. Eldredge wrote: > > At a guess, there may not be enough bandwidth available for video streaming. > I have seen the results of trying to stream video over an overly-congested > connection; the results are annoyingly jerky. > > > -------Original Email--- > Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream? > From :mailto:pavithra...@gmail.com > Date :Wed Jul 07 16:13:55 America/Chicago 2010 > > > On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: >> yes, both tracks will be recorded. > > It would be nice to have video streaming . > Anyways please update > http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sotm10&result_type=recent second > by second :P Atleast we will have a live text stream ;) > > Regards, > Pavithran > -- > pavithran sakamuri > http://look-pavi.blogspot.com > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > -- > John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com > "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not > to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > > If they can't be streamed live, are they still going to be recorded? > > > > yes, both tracks will be recorded. Could some one please take time to upload the videos ! Also those who have spoke but haven't uploaded slides please do upload your slides ( now that most of you have reached your home) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010#Sessions_list has lot of red colour , no page links . do correct them ;) Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
At a guess, there may not be enough bandwidth available for video streaming. I have seen the results of trying to stream video over an overly-congested connection; the results are annoyingly jerky. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream? >From :mailto:pavithra...@gmail.com Date :Wed Jul 07 16:13:55 America/Chicago 2010 On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > yes, both tracks will be recorded. It would be nice to have video streaming . Anyways please update http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sotm10&result_type=recent second by second :P Atleast we will have a live text stream ;) Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
On 7 July 2010 04:09, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > yes, both tracks will be recorded. It would be nice to have video streaming . Anyways please update http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23sotm10&result_type=recent second by second :P Atleast we will have a live text stream ;) Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
John Smith wrote: > On 6 July 2010 23:07, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: >> We are actually planning to do this again, but no guarantees, that's why >> it's not mentioned yet :) > > If they can't be streamed live, are they still going to be recorded? > yes, both tracks will be recorded. greetings, floris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
On 6 July 2010 23:07, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: > We are actually planning to do this again, but no guarantees, that's why > it's not mentioned yet :) If they can't be streamed live, are they still going to be recorded? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
Hey, We are actually planning to do this again, but no guarantees, that's why it's not mentioned yet :) There are cameras in both rooms and we will be recording everything for viewing after the conference. We'll be testing the streaming in the following days. For now: keep your eye on www.stateofthemap.org ! If you are going to the SotM and want to volunteer to help out with videostreaming for a few hours, please let me know! Greets, Floris Looijesteijn SotM 2010 Organizing Committee Sam Vekemans wrote: > A donated netbook that is sitting in a chair and pointed to the > speaker podeum, with Ustream.tv running and capturing everything that > is going on is EASY to set up. > It just needs to be checked every so often to make sure its still > recording & airing live. > > You could even stick a nametag on it as 'Iama Mapper'. > > Cheers, > Sam > > > > On 7/6/10, maning sambale wrote: >> Are there plans to do this? Nothing was mentioned in the website >> >> (from someone who would love to attend but can't) >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> -- >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> -- >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > > > -- > Twitter: @Acrosscanada > Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ > http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans > Skype: samvekemans > IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) > @Acrosscanadatrails > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
A donated netbook that is sitting in a chair and pointed to the speaker podeum, with Ustream.tv running and capturing everything that is going on is EASY to set up. It just needs to be checked every so often to make sure its still recording & airing live. You could even stick a nametag on it as 'Iama Mapper'. Cheers, Sam On 7/6/10, maning sambale wrote: > Are there plans to do this? Nothing was mentioned in the website > > (from someone who would love to attend but can't) > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] sotm2010 video stream?
Are there plans to do this? Nothing was mentioned in the website (from someone who would love to attend but can't) -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
