Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-03 Thread Harald Kleiner

 Shaun wrote:
 
 This crossing of a highway and a railway needs to 
 be tagged as railway=level_crossing

 Is not quite right as it should also allow 
 railway=crossing. a crossing is a crossing just for 
 pedestrians, while level_crossing is a crossing where 
 larger vehicles can cross too.
 

Thank you, Shaun for the clarification! The check does allow 
'railway=crossing' as well as 'railway=level_crossing', but it was not 
documented that way. I've added that now.


 Hi Harald,
 
 Do you use the saved comments against false positives to improve the
 checks at all? For example I noted against one such highlighted
 problem that railway=abandoned meeting a highway=footway probably
 doesn't need to be tagged as a level_crossing (indeed part of the
 footway runs along a section of the abandoned railway line).

Yes of course, I will use the comments! In fact that's the only purpost 
of the comment field.

Thank you for the hint, I excluded abandoned railways by now. Please 
note that this change will take effect in the next but one update, as 
the check process is already running...

 
 Having said that I've found a few things to correct around here as
 well as the false positives, and there are a few things that are
 highlighted as places I meant to go and finish but forgot about...
 
 Ed
 

Thank you,
Harald


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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Ed Avis wrote:
 [Add Keep Right! to Template:places]

Done (anyone can do this, it's a wiki). I think it's a potentially
useful tool, even if it does use the deprecated phrase deprecated for
perfectly reasonable tags like abutters=retail (how else do you tag
shopfronts in an otherwise predominantly residential area?)

 At the moment 'Keep right!' has data only for Europe, because running the
 check for the whole planet file would take two weeks.  But I suggest linking 
 to
 it now, and perhaps some better hardware could be sorted out later to expand 
 it
 to the whole world.

I've marked it Europe-only.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Peter Miller

On 2 Mar 2009, at 15:48, Ed Avis wrote:

 [I sent a message about this to the list last week, but it got lost  
 somewhere]

 Most of the individual country pages on the OSM wiki have a box on  
 the right
 generated using the 'place' template.  This gives a link to view the  
 country on
 the main slippy map and also to view it in various external 'lint'  
 tools such as
 OpenStreetBugs.

 I'd like to request that 'Keep right!' http://keepright.ipax.at/  
 be added to
 this list.  It checks various map errors, not all of which are  
 covered by
 maplint or the other tools.  For example, here is the report for the  
 Regent's
 Park area:
 http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?lat=51.53011lon=-0.15456zoom=15layers=B0T
  
 .

 I have contacted the maintainer Harald Kleiner e9625...@gmx.at and  
 he is
 enthusiastic for the site to be used.  Although the tabular download  
 can cause
 a high server load if downloading a large area, the slippy map is  
 limited to
 showing 100 error markers, so it is safe to link to at any size.

 At the moment 'Keep right!' has data only for Europe, because  
 running the
 check for the whole planet file would take two weeks.  But I suggest  
 linking to
 it now, and perhaps some better hardware could be sorted out later  
 to expand it


In Potlatch you can enter edit mode with a particular feature already  
selected. We do this with OSM Mapper and it works very well and  
Geofabrik do it as well. You should add this to Keep Right.

For example
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lon=8.10411lat=51.05425zoom=18way=29411858

There is also a way to do this with JOSM as long as it is already  
running.


Regards,


Peter



 to the whole world.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Ed Avis
Andrew Chadwick (email lists andrewc-email-lists at piffle.org writes:

[Add Keep Right! to Template:places]

Done (anyone can do this, it's a wiki).

Thanks - I didn't want to risk breaking every single country page without
discussing it on the list first :-p.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Ed Avis
However I don't see a link to 'Keep right!' in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom... did adding it take 
effect?

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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Ed Avis wrote:
 However I don't see a link to 'Keep right!' in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom... did adding it take 
 effect?

It seems to take rather variable effect, which is odd. From where I'm
sitting:

  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bradford - works
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom - nothing
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Oxford - still contains my typo :/

Possibly some caching issue here. Hopefully it'll all shake itself out
eventually.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Renaud MICHEL
Le lundi 02 mars 2009 à 16:48, Ed Avis a écrit :
 I'd like to request that 'Keep right!' http://keepright.ipax.at/ be
 added to this list.  It checks various map errors, not all of which are
 covered by maplint or the other tools.

Hey, I just discovered this site, it's great!
I've quickly corrected many small problems in Liège, so many of the bugs 
present here
http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=15lat=50.64151lon=5.57285layers=B0T
should be gone by the next update ;-)

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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Milenko
Such a cool tool.  I wish it worked for the rest of the world.  :(

Is the source available that it could be run on another site?  I have a
server sitting doing nothing that might be good for something like this.

-Jeremy

 -Original Message-
 From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-
 boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Renaud MICHEL
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:08 PM
 To: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in
 the 'place' template
 
 Le lundi 02 mars 2009 à 16:48, Ed Avis a écrit :
  I'd like to request that 'Keep right!' http://keepright.ipax.at/ be
  added to this list.  It checks various map errors, not all of which
 are
  covered by maplint or the other tools.
 
 Hey, I just discovered this site, it's great!
 I've quickly corrected many small problems in Liège, so many of the
 bugs
 present here
 http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=15lat=50.64151lon=5.5728
 5layers=B0T
 should be gone by the next update ;-)
 
 --
 Renaud Michel
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Harald Kleiner
Hi!

 
 Done (anyone can do this, it's a wiki). I think it's a potentially
 useful tool, even if it does use the deprecated phrase deprecated for
 perfectly reasonable tags like abutters=retail (how else do you tag
 shopfronts in an otherwise predominantly residential area?)

Just don't take every so called error on keepright as error; some of 
them are just warnings ;-)

I took the page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Deprecated_features
as reference and I wanted to point people to items tagged the old way 
to help them adapt the tags to the new way

Best regards,
Harald



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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Harald Kleiner
Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for the hint to that great feature!
Just added that to keepright

Have fun with it!

Harald

 
 
 In Potlatch you can enter edit mode with a particular feature already  
 selected. We do this with OSM Mapper and it works very well and  
 Geofabrik do it as well. You should add this to Keep Right.
 
 For example
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lon=8.10411lat=51.05425zoom=18way=29411858
 
 There is also a way to do this with JOSM as long as it is already  
 running.
 
 


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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Harald Kleiner
Hi Milenko!

Watch out, I could take you at your word!

I am surprised that there is so much response and demand to run checks 
by many people.

Up to now I've tried to run the checks on the whole planet but that just 
crashed the server. You need at least 4GB RAM and 400GB hard disk, built 
  up as RAID0 preferably, if you want to try that.

Hardware requirements are less if you just check part of the planet 
obviously.

Now here is my proposal:

As configuring PostGIS and setting up my scripts is quite a hassle, I 
could prepare a virtualBox image file for download. Then you could just 
configure the location where the planet file is to be downloaded and 
then you could get started within minutes.

For the experts I could provide the script sources as well, but I'm 
afraid of drowning in mails later on...

What do you think?

Best regards,
Harald

 Such a cool tool.  I wish it worked for the rest of the world.  :(
 
 Is the source available that it could be run on another site?  I have a
 server sitting doing nothing that might be good for something like this.
 
 -Jeremy
 



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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Shaun McDonald


On 2 Mar 2009, at 20:51, Harald Kleiner wrote:


Hi!



Done (anyone can do this, it's a wiki). I think it's a potentially
useful tool, even if it does use the deprecated phrase deprecated  
for

perfectly reasonable tags like abutters=retail (how else do you tag
shopfronts in an otherwise predominantly residential area?)


Just don't take every so called error on keepright as error; some of
them are just warnings ;-)

I took the page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Deprecated_features
as reference and I wanted to point people to items tagged the old  
way

to help them adapt the tags to the new way



This crossing of a highway and a railway needs to be tagged as  
railway=level_crossing


Is not quite right as it should also allow railway=crossing. a  
crossing is a crossing just for pedestrians, while level_crossing is a  
crossing where larger vehicles can cross too.


Shaun

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Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Ed Loach
Shaun wrote:

 This crossing of a highway and a railway needs to 
 be tagged as railway=level_crossing
 
 Is not quite right as it should also allow 
 railway=crossing. a crossing is a crossing just for 
 pedestrians, while level_crossing is a crossing where 
 larger vehicles can cross too.

Hi Harald,

Do you use the saved comments against false positives to improve the
checks at all? For example I noted against one such highlighted
problem that railway=abandoned meeting a highway=footway probably
doesn't need to be tagged as a level_crossing (indeed part of the
footway runs along a section of the abandoned railway line).

Having said that I've found a few things to correct around here as
well as the false positives, and there are a few things that are
highlighted as places I meant to go and finish but forgot about...

Ed



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