[talk-au] Tagging help
Hi all, if anyone could give me some assistance with a few tags that would be great. I'm trying to get St Ives showground mapped ( http://osm.org/go/uYqBCJiO6- ). I can do about 45 minutes of wandering around there every few weeks, so it is slowly getting better. There are a couple of things it has, which I don't know how to tag. Or I think I know, but the tags used have long been abandoned on the wiki. I took photos today, so I would have something to ask about. If they are useful enough to go on the wiki, then I'm happy for them to be licensed whatever. Don't count on this url being available in a month though. http://www.ultra-premium.com/scratch/whatarethese/index.html 1) A dog training area. The best I can see is: sport=dog_training http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Dog_training 2-3) Model plane flying field. The best I can see is: sport=model_aerodrome http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Model%27s_Aerodrome 4) Horse saddling thing. I don't really know what this would be called. There are a couple around the place, most are on concrete. 5) Horse exercise area. This is what they call it on the map (which I forgot to photograph). According to the wiki for sport=equestrian: Equestrianism, sports involving the skill of riding or driving horses. Often associated internationally with show jumping and dressage, but also including endurance riding, eventing, reining, tent pegging, vaulting, polo, horse racing, driving, rodeo and more. But this seems to throw away a whole lot of information if I just tag it as sport=equestrian, because it looks nothing like the actual equestrian centre just to the north of it. I'm happy to leave it tagged as sport=equestrian though. 6) This was a fenced off thing, which might have been a scaled topographic map of the area... but I'm not really sure. 7) Remote control car racing. Currently tagged as leisure=track sport=rc_car_racing ... I'm fairly sure this one is wrong :) Any assistance appreciated. Andy ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today
We had a pretty good turn out today of 7 people, include 2 geocachers that were introduced to OSM. Additionally a person came over to talk to us while we were trying to figure out a plan of attack at mcdonalds, they took a copy of the walking paper print out I had made and they seemed interested in walking tracks. After that we all headed out and were going to meet up about 4, although I'm not sure where Jeff ended up. I'm still going through fixing up streets from traces and also using the traces to re-aligning the yahoo sat imagery so other streets no one traced can be more accurate hopefully. Just before heading back to meet up with Ashley and David at the park I mapped out a model railway, I've tagged it railway=rail but that seems like something meant for heavy rail not model rail. http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=18lat=-26.625656303179lon=152.95586003249 All in all I think it was worth putting together, especially publicity wise and getting others aware of OSM. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] List of potential datasources
On 13/08/2009, at 11:18 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: If anybody knows any federal government datasources that would be useful, the Government 2.0 taskforce is looking for data sources that the community would find useful but currently aren't available for technical reasons [1]. This will form part of a series of contests to encourage innovation. I already suggested the Postcode boundaries being released with a more open licence, although it's hard to tell if that's due to technical reasons or a risk adverse culture. I've got a couple that I think would be interesting, but I don't know if anyone has talked to these departments yet. http://www.toiletmap.gov.au/ Over 16k toilet POIs http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/ Great Barrier Reef marine park boundaries and reef features. Their spatial data is free for non-commercial/educational use, but they change for commercial use. The various Parks departments, for the boundaries of National Parks, State Forests and so on. I've seen some of them show up around the place, but not everywhere. For example I don't think any are tagged in Tassie apart from the trivial case I added of the Maria Island National Park being Maria Island. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] I've been trying to fix the highway shields and came across this....
Also they talk about only adding ref's to relations that have the entire highway. I've been playing about with this marking a tourist route and this makes a lot of sense. When highways and/or tourist routes share the same physical piece of road you can have each with it's own relation route, with the ref and name, instead of trying to cram information about both, or more, routes into the same tags in a haphazard way. It also means you can tag streets with the street name and not have to worry about should you add the highway name, or should you use alt_name or what to do. I copied information from some of the US tagged interstates, and it looks like this is how they ended up deciding to tag things. The highway itself if it doesn't have a street name is blank, then you add all the ways from the same highway segment into a relation with the following information: addr:country=Australia addr:state=QLD network=T ref=20 route=road type=route They tag the ways with north/east/south/west because that's what appears on signs over there, I couldn't think of a good local equivalent so I had all the roles on all the ways set to 'member' ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today
Good to meet some fellow mappers. We arrived back about 3:30 and left about 4:15. Spent the time in Macca's showing Neek how to use Potlatch and start adding some of the bits we marked out (yesterday was her first OSM/GPS experience). Neek will be using this towards a Scout badge activity so will slowly fill in the blanks over the next week. Jeff. After that we all headed out and were going to meet up about 4, although I'm not sure where Jeff ended up.___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today
There is a narrow-gauge tag which I used for the Big Pineapple railway. Maybe that's a better one? From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Saturday, 15 August, 2009 8:07:31 PM Subject: [talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today We had a pretty good turn out today of 7 people, include 2 geocachers that were introduced to OSM. Additionally a person came over to talk to us while we were trying to figure out a plan of attack at mcdonalds, they took a copy of the walking paper print out I had made and they seemed interested in walking tracks. After that we all headed out and were going to meet up about 4, although I'm not sure where Jeff ended up. I'm still going through fixing up streets from traces and also using the traces to re-aligning the yahoo sat imagery so other streets no one traced can be more accurate hopefully. Just before heading back to meet up with Ashley and David at the park I mapped out a model railway, I've tagged it railway=rail but that seems like something meant for heavy rail not model rail. http://maps.bigtincan.com/?zoom=18lat=-26.625656303179lon=152.95586003249 All in all I think it was worth putting together, especially publicity wise and getting others aware of OSM. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Highway page and Aus tagging guidelines page is inconsistent
Hi all, While looking at the wiki page describing the highway tag[0] recently, I noticed that the Australian entry in International Equivalence doesn't match what is on the Australian Tagging Guidelines page, and what actually gets mapped. For example it says that in states with MABC classifications, A should be primary not trunk, and B should be secondary not primary, and so on. I'm not sure if the other bits in the entry are correct, such as which are state maintained and so on, so I haven't changed anything yet. Does anyone know which of the other bits are correct and which aren't? [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Routable map displaying incorrect states
I have downloaded the NSW routable map from http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php only to find most addresses in my GPS 6ocsx assigned the state of Vic - when they should be NSW. Any reason for this? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Jeff Price jeff.pr...@rocketmail.com wrote: There is a narrow-gauge tag which I used for the Big Pineapple railway. Maybe that's a better one? That's still twice the width or more of this model railway track: http://scrms.org.au/ I've seen another one like it in Casino, NSW ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 26, Issue 48
On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 09:20 +0700, Denise or Gavin wrote: I have downloaded the NSW routable map from http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php only to find most addresses in my GPS 6ocsx assigned the state of Vic - when they should be NSW. Any reason for this? I've just downloaded the routable dataset for NSW on my garmin unit (etrex vista HCx) and it works fine for me. Did you download http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute/AU/NSW_route.img.zip ? After you've downloaded this file, you can unzip it, then rename the file to: GMAPSUPP.IMG and place the file within the GARMIN folder on your garmin gps unit. (You can combine multiple IMG files into one big IMG file using some other tools if need be). Once that's done, you should have a lot of the OSM details and roads on your garmin unit. What do you mean by most addresses in my GPS 6ocsx assigned the state of Vic - when they should be NSW ? Could you be more specific - what do you mean by addresses? - Road names? and how are they assigned the state? - Rhubarb -- cam_...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Jeff Price jeff.pr...@rocketmail.com wrote: There is a narrow-gauge tag which I used for the Big Pineapple railway. Maybe that's a better one? Took me a bit, but I found another minature railway line traced, it's in the UK and they used railway=narrow_guage http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.95727lon=-1.3661zoom=17layers=B000FTF ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 26, Issue 48
I've had the same issue. When searching for cities or suburbs it will come up with results such as Newcastle, VIC Newtown, VIC etc. I just switched on my Legend HCx and did a search for nearest cities. Currently I'm in Lismore and despite most of the results being in NSW it still came up with: Bora Ridge, VIC 25.03km Rileys Hill, VIC 26.38km Swan Bay, VIC 28.71km *6 other results within 50km which are supposedly in Victoria* There's probably a consistent pattern in there somewhere, about 70% of the results are shown correctly to be in NSW. - Original Message - From: cam_...@fastmail.fm Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009 2:22 pm Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 26, Issue 48 To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 09:20 +0700, Denise or Gavin wrote: I have downloaded the NSW routable map from http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute.php only to find most addresses in my GPS 6ocsx assigned the state of Vic - when they should be NSW. Any reason for this? I've just downloaded the routable dataset for NSW on my garmin unit (etrex vista HCx) and it works fine for me. Did you download http://www.osmaustralia.org/garminroute/AU/NSW_route.img.zip ? After you've downloaded this file, you can unzip it, then rename the file to: GMAPSUPP.IMG and place the file within the GARMIN folder on your garmin gps unit. (You can combine multiple IMG files into one big IMG file using some other tools if need be). Once that's done, you should have a lot of the OSM details and roads on your garmin unit. What do you mean by most addresses in my GPS 6ocsx assigned the state of Vic - when they should be NSW ? Could you be more specific - what do you mean by addresses? - Road names? and how are they assigned the state? - Rhubarb -- cam_...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today
Alternatively if the area is named model railway and tagged recreation/hobby, and the rail route just marked as a recreation track? I was thinking along similar lines as the remote controlled race car track question yesterday/today. From: John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Jeff Price jeff.pr...@rocketmail.com Sent: Sunday, 16 August, 2009 2:47:24 PM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today --- On Sun, 16/8/09, Jeff Price jeff.pr...@rocketmail.com wrote: There is a narrow-gauge tag which I used for the Big Pineapple railway. Maybe that's a better one? Took me a bit, but I found another minature railway line traced, it's in the UK and they used railway=narrow_guage http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.95727lon=-1.3661zoom=17layers=B000FTF___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nambour mapping party that was held today
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Jeff Price jeff.pr...@rocketmail.com wrote: Alternatively if the area is named model railway and tagged recreation/hobby, and the rail route just marked as a recreation track? I was thinking along similar lines as the remote controlled race car track question yesterday/today. I've been reading up on this a little, model railway is under 2.5 (6cm), the little electric trains on the indoor tracks and some slightly larger outdoors ones but I don't think any are big/strong enough for passengers. Then there is miniature railway which is from 2.5 to 7.25(18.4cm), these ones can carry passengers although all the pics I've seen the passengers ride on top of the cars not in them like typical narrow_gauge line, ie old cane trains. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
