Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

[Simon Poole]

I wouldn't expect much traffic till the existing forum content has been 
migrated, currently scheduled for the end of the month. That should then 
give some slightly more definite structure to things than there is now.


Simon

Am 02.05.2022 um 05:01 schrieb Sam Wilson:


It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and 
I think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being 
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that 
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other 
people know how one place is doing things.


I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I 
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large 
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.


—Sam


On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

So how's it going after this first month?

Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?

Thanks

Graeme


On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:

The new community.openstreetmap.org
 site is up and running.

It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
Australia 
subforum.

I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
amount of content relating to Australia.


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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

[Anthony Panozzo]

Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>
2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155>
 he has allowed u-turns




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It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other people
know how one place is doing things.

I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.

?Sam


On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> So how's it going after this first month?
>
> Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:
>
> The new community.openstreetmap.org
> <https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.
>
> It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
> Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
> subforum.
>
> I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
> created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
> amount of content relating to Australia.
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

[Luke Stewart]

Hi, if you look at the intersection you will see that there are 4 valid
no_u_turn restrictions in place. Modelling the intersection with diagonals
like that is contrary to established practice, but modelling it correctly
rendered 45 of the restrictions redundant.

Cheers,
Luke

On Mon, 2 May 2022 at 22:57, Anthony Panozzo  wrote:

> Reporting user TheSwavu | OpenStreetMap
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> It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).
>
> It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
> think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
> discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
> benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other people
> know how one place is doing things.
>
> I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
> think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
> at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.
>
> ?Sam
>
>
> On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > So how's it going after this first month?
> >
> > Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Graeme
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:
> >
> > The new community.openstreetmap.org
> > <https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.
> >
> > It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
> > Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
> > subforum.
> >
> > I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
> > created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
> > amount of content relating to Australia.
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 4

[Anthony Panozzo]

The u-turn restriction are only valid from 1 nodes at 2 nodes it allows 
u-turns, I built waterloo corner road from one end the the other, this guy just 
goes around clicking buttons lol.




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Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 14:36:03 +0200
From: Simon Poole 
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
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I wouldn't expect much traffic till the existing forum content has been
migrated, currently scheduled for the end of the month. That should then
give some slightly more definite structure to things than there is now.

Simon

Am 02.05.2022 um 05:01 schrieb Sam Wilson:
>
> It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).
>
> It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and
> I think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
> discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
> benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other
> people know how one place is doing things.
>
> I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
> think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
> at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.
>
> ?Sam
>
>
> On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> So how's it going after this first month?
>>
>> Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:
>>
>> The new community.openstreetmap.org
>> <https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.
>>
>> It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
>> Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
>> subforum.
>>
>> I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
>> created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
>> amount of content relating to Australia.
>>
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Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>
2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155>
 he has allowed u-turns




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[Dean Scott]

Hi, what section of road has TheSwavu allowed u-turns? If you are referring to 
the intersection with traffic lights, the u-turn’s are correctly tagged. If 
not, please point it out to us so we can better understand

Regards,
Scottie0001


From: Anthony Panozzo 
Date: Monday, 2 May 2022 at 10:57 pm
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3
Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>
2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155>
 he has allowed u-turns




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It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other people
know how one place is doing things.

I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.

?Sam


On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> So how's it going after this first month?
>
> Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:
>
> The new community.openstreetmap.org
> <https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.
>
> It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
> Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
> subforum.
>
> I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
> created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
> amount of content relating to Australia.
>
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

[Anthony Panozzo]

Yes martins road/waterloo corner road/bagster theswavu and randomly clicked 
buttons again and allowed u-turns from 2 nodes away, I think his little 
validator tool only works from 1 node or something, either way he has no local 
knowledge of this area



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Hi, what section of road has TheSwavu allowed u-turns? If you are referring to 
the intersection with traffic lights, the u-turn’s are correctly tagged. If 
not, please point it out to us so we can better understand

Regards,
Scottie0001


From: Anthony Panozzo 
Date: Monday, 2 May 2022 at 10:57 pm
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3
Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>
2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155>
 he has allowed u-turns




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It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other people
know how one place is doing things.

I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.

?Sam


On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> So how's it going after this first month?
>
> Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:
>
> The new community.openstreetmap.org
> <https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.
>
> It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
> Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
> subforum.
>
> I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
> created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
> amount of content relating to Australia.
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

[Anthony Panozzo]

And also, if you really look hard enough into it, you will realise those 
crosses at intersections do not break any OSM rules or policys. The no physical 
divide argument is not valid because they do not represent two different roads, 
this person is reverting edits he really knows nothing about.




From: Dean Scott 
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 11:03:51 PM
To: Anthony Panozzo ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org 

Subject: Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3


Hi, what section of road has TheSwavu allowed u-turns? If you are referring to 
the intersection with traffic lights, the u-turn’s are correctly tagged. If 
not, please point it out to us so we can better understand

Regards,

Scottie0001





From: Anthony Panozzo 
Date: Monday, 2 May 2022 at 10:57 pm
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>

2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155>
 he has allowed u-turns









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It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other people
know how one place is doing things.

I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.

?Sam


On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> So how's it going after this first month?
>
> Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:
>
> The new community.openstreetmap.org
> <https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.
>
> It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
> Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
> subforum.
>
> I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
> created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
> amount of content relating to Australia.
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>
> It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
> Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
> subforum.
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> created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
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To: Dean Scott , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3
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And also, if you really look hard enough into it, you will realise those 
crosses at intersections do not break any OSM rules or policys. The no physical 
divide argument is not valid because they do not represent two different roads, 
this person is reverting edits he really knows nothing about.




From: Dean Scott 
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 11:03:51 PM
To: Anthony Panozzo ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org 

Subject: Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3


Hi, what section of road has TheSwavu allowed u-turns? If you are referring to 
the intersection with traffic lights, the u-turn?s are correctly tagged. If 
not, please point it out to us so we can better understand

Regards,

Scottie0001





From: Anthony Panozzo 
Date: Monday, 2 May 2022 at 10:57 pm
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>

2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155>
 he has allowed u-turns









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Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 11:01:40 +0800
From: Sam Wilson 
To: Graeme Fitzpatrick 
Cc: OSM-Au 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
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It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other people
know how one place is doing things.

I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.

?S

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 7

[Anthony Panozzo]

t line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..."


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To: Graeme Fitzpatrick 
Cc: OSM-Au 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
Message-ID: <2f617c9d-0456-971b-233c-90d2e54ea...@samwilson.id.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other people
know how one place is doing things.

I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.

?Sam


On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> So how's it going after this first month?
>
> Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:
>
> The new community.openstreetmap.org
> <https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.
>
> It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
> Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
> subforum.
>
> I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
> created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
> amount of content relating to Australia.
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And also, if you really look hard enough into it, you will realise those 
crosses at intersections do not break any OSM rules or policys. The no physical 
divide argument is not valid because they do not represent two different roads, 
this person is reverting edits he really knows nothing about.




From: Dean Scott 
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 11:03:51 PM
To: Anthony Panozzo ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org 

Subject: Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3


Hi, what section of road has TheSwavu allowed u-turns? If you are referring to 
the intersection with traffic lights, the u-turn?s are correctly tagged. If 
not, please point it out to us so we can better understand

Regards,

Scottie0001





From: Anthony Panozzo 
Date: Monday, 2 May 2022 at 10:57 pm
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>

2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155>
 he has allowed u-turns









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Yes martins road/waterloo corner road/bagster theswavu and randomly clicked 
buttons again and allowed u-turns from 2 nodes away, I think his little 
validator tool only works from 1 node or something, either way he has no local 
knowledge of this area



From: Dean Scott<mailto:deanscott...@outlook.com>
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To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>; 
talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

Hi, what section of road has TheSwavu allowed u-turns? If you are referring to 
the intersection with traffic lights, the u-turn?s are correctly tagged. If 
not, please point it out to us so we can better understand

Regards,
Scottie0001


From: Anthony Panozzo 
Date: Monday, 2 May 2022 at 10:57 pm
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3
Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>
2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155>
 he has allowed u-turns




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To: Graeme Fitzpatrick 
Cc: OSM-Au 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
Message-ID: <2f617c9d-0456-971b-233c-90d2e54ea...@samwilson.id.au>
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It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
think one advantage is being able to get a feel for what's being
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other people
know how one place is doing things.

I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.

?Sam


On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> So how's it going after this first month?
>
> Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:
>
> The new community.openstreetmap.org
> <https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.
>
> It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
> Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
> subforum.
>
> I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
> created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
>     amount of content relating to Australia.
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On Mon, 2 May 2022, 13:04 Sam Wilson,  wrote:

> It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).
>
> It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and I
> think one
>

How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't used
Discource enough to picture how it works.
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Re: [talk-au] user TheSwavu

[Dian Ågesson]

t a feel for what's being
discussed elsewhere. Also to have location-specific discussions that
benefit either from the input of people elsewhere or to let other 
people

know how one place is doing things.

I don't like the notification system that much, but part of that is I
think that the ratio of meta posts to real topical ones is quite large
at the moment. It is decreasing though, as more people take part.

?Sam

On 1/5/22 06:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:

So how's it going after this first month?

Any marked advantages / disadvantages over the existing mailing list?

Thanks

Graeme


On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 at 12:52, Sam Wilson  wrote:

The new community.openstreetmap.org
<https://community.openstreetmap.org> site is up and running.

It's going to replace the old forum, including the users:
Australia <https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=24>
subforum.

I'm not sure if we should ask for an Australia category to be
created on the new site. Probably not worth it until there's some
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To: Dean Scott , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

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And also, if you really look hard enough into it, you will realise 
those crosses at intersections do not break any OSM rules or policys. 
The no physical divide argument is not valid because they do not 
represent two different roads, this person is reverting edits he really 
knows nothing about.



From: Dean Scott 
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 11:03:51 PM
To: Anthony Panozzo ; talk-au@openstreetmap.org 


Subject: Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

Hi, what section of road has TheSwavu allowed u-turns? If you are 
referring to the intersection with traffic lights, the u-turn?s are 
correctly tagged. If not, please point it out to us so we can better 
understand


Regards,

Scottie0001

From: Anthony Panozzo 
Date: Monday, 2 May 2022 at 10:57 pm
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 3

Reporting user TheSwavu | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheSwavu>


2 hours ago he made this changeset Changeset: 120456255 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/120456255#map=17/-34.75536/138.63155> 
he has allowed u-turns




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To: Graeme Fitzpatrick 
Cc: OSM-Au 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
Message-ID: <2f617c9d-0456-971b-233c-90d2e54ea...@samwilson.id.au>
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It's growing in use, I think (not with Australia-specific discussion).

It feels like a pretty good site, I check the headlines most days, and 
I

think one advantage

Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

[Andy Townsend]

On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:


How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't 
used Discource enough to picture how it works.


If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed 
all messages and can reply to them by email too.  What you can't yet do 
is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to 
e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click 
"new topic".


Best Regards,

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[talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)

[Andrew Davidson]

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:

>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap 
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)

[Anthony Panozzo]

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn’t know the laws, 
he doesn’t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine



From: Andrew Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo
Cc: OpenStreetMap
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)

[Anthony Panozzo]

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn’t know the laws, 
he doesn’t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine

And he didn’t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is a 
complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going about 
his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would rather win an 
argument than care 1 bit about the map




From: Andrew Davidson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:

 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)

[Andrew Davidson]

On 3/5/22 08:18, Anthony Panozzo wrote:
Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me 
it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections


Gmail will send an email to both the mail list and the original sender 
by default on reply. You will have noticed the list email address in the 
CC:. Or maybe you didn't notice?


By the way, the link you sent me off-list:

https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/

says exactly the same thing I was trying to explain to you. Perhaps this 
video might make it clearer:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0SzfStP1nE

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[talk-au] TheSwavu

[Anthony Panozzo]

openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>

And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is a 
complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going about 
his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would rather win an 
argument than care 1 bit about the map




From: Andrew Davidson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:

 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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[Anthony Panozzo]

To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:

>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

>
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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>



From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>

And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is a 
complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going about 
his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would rather win an 
argument than care 1 bit about the map




From: Andrew Davidson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 202

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Anthony Panozzo]

Contents of Talk-au digest..."


Today's Topics:

   1. Re: New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org (Andy Townsend)
   2. U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au Digest, Vol
  179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson)
   3. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
  Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
   4. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
  Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100
From: Andy Townsend 
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>
> How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
> used Discource enough to picture how it works.
>
If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
"new topic".

Best Regards,

Andy





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Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
From: Andrew Davidson 
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:

>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

>
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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>



From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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Re: [talk-au] TheSwavu

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 08:41, Anthony Panozzo  wrote:

> By directly emailing me he trying to mess up the way au-talk is
> formatting, no one here gets to see what he is emailing me, he has no clue
> about the laws/rules or the areas, this is a joke
>

Anthony

Sorry, but you seem to be a bit confused about how the AU mailing list
works.

If you only click Reply to any message, then that reply e-mail will only go
to the person that created the message that you are replying to.

If you Reply-All, then it will go to the mailing list as well as directly
to that person, but they should only get 1 copy, not 2.

If Andrew (Swavu) is using reply all (which is the best thing to do, as
that way the list is across all discussions), then he is doing things
properly, he is not picking on you.

Thanks

Graeme
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[Luke Stewart]

gt; Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> Message-ID:
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> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it
> is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the
> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
> hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA
> Magazine<
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
> >
>
>
>
> From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com >
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
> To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com >
> Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> >
> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
> it or traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:30:13 +
> From: Anthony Panozzo 
> To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
> 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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>
> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it
> is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the
> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
> hope DWG see this
> Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA Magazine<
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
> >
>
> And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is
> a complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going
> about his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would
> rather win an argument than care 1 bit about the map
>
>
>
>
> From: Andrew Davidson 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
> To: Anthony Panozzo 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>
>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
> it or traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?p

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Luke Stewart]

736691/history>
>> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
>> service
>> > road.
>> >
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
>> The
>> road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
>> median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
>> traffic lights:
>>
>> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>>
>> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
>> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>>
>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +
>> From: Anthony Panozzo 
>> To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"
>> 
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
>> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>
>> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
>> it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know
>> the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click
>> buttons but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his
>> edits I hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The
>> RAA Magazine<
>> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com >
>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
>> To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com >
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
>> >
>> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
>> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>>
>> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, > pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
>> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
>> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
>> road.
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
>> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
>> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
>> it or traffic lights:
>>
>> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>>
>> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are
>> allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated
>> rules:
>>
>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:30:13 +
>> From: Anthony Panozzo 
>> To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
>> 
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
>> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>> Message-ID:
>> <
>> pr3p192mb092790d283dcddd9a624249dcc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com
>> >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>
>> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
>> it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know
>> the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click
>> buttons but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his
>> edits I hope DWG see this
>> Do you know the U-turn road rules? | sam

[talk-au] TheSwavu

[Anthony Panozzo]

=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>



From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

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Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>

And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is a 
complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going about 
his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would rather win an 
argument than care 1 bit about the map




From: Andrew Davidson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:

 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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[Dian Ågesson]

esday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au 
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)


On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 
13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> 
he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the 
service road.


I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. 
The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the 
end of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign 
prohibiting it or traffic lights:


https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are 
allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other 
associated rules:


https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me 
it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t 
know the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly 
click buttons but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go 
about his edits I hope DWG see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>


And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this 
is a complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep 
going about his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you 
would rather win an argument than care 1 bit about the map


From: Andrew Davidson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au 
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)


On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:


I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 
13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> 
he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the 
service road.


I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. 
The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the 
end of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign 
prohibiting it or traffic lights:


https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are 
allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other 
associated rules:


https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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Re: [talk-au] TheSwavu

[Ian Steer]

Anthony,

While I have not examined the technical merits of your case;

1. I wish you would follow the talk-au guidelines and have the subject more
specific than " Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13" - as it says at the top
of *every* digest

2. I wish you would delete most of the ancient correspondence and just leave
the small part you are responding to

3. Looking at the balance of the discussion, it would seem that you perhaps
ought to be sitting back and having second thoughts about your mapping
practices.  There have been several users who have explained in an
un-emotional manner that they seem to think TheSwavu is correct.  You seem
to be quite emotional about the matter and maybe should take a step back and
consider what others have been saying.

Ian


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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 12

[Andrew Davidson]

On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 8:49 AM Anthony Panozzo  wrote:
> traffic lights:” which is 100% incorrect, you can only do a u-turn if there 
> is a sign permitting you to do so.

That rule only applies at intersections with traffic lights:

http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/sa/consol_reg/arr210/s40.html

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Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

[Sam Wilson]

On 3/5/22 05:50, Andy Townsend wrote:

On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:


How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I 
haven't used Discource enough to picture how it works.


If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed 
all messages and can reply to them by email too.  What you can't yet 
do is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go 
to e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and 
click "new topic".




And it sounds like there is a plan to at some point enable new posts via 
email, and when that time comes we will need a category (so it can have 
its own email address). Maybe we should go ahead and request an 
Australia category now?




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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Anthony Panozzo]

alia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>



From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>

And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is a 
complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going about 
his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would rather win an 
argument than care 1 bit about the map




From: Andrew Davidson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:

 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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Re: [talk-au] TheSwavu

[Phil Wyatt]

Anthony,

 

I would suggest stopping the personal attacks on the email list and
concentrating on the actual issues, specifically in changeset comments with
the actual issue discussed. Expend your energy on the actual edits. 

 

Cheers - Phil

 

 

From: Anthony Panozzo  
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:01 AM
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [talk-au] TheSwavu

 

Notice how TheSwavu himself has stopped replying... that's because he has
just learnt he really doesn't have a clue and is waiting for one of these
vocal people in his small group to come to rescue his arguments. If what he
said about trying to correct me on the road rules and he didn't even realize
he does understand them properly, does he even have his licence?

 

 

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Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

[Andrew Davidson]

On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 9:31 AM Sam Wilson  wrote:
> And it sounds like there is a plan to at some point enable new posts via
> email, and when that time comes we will need a category (so it can have
> its own email address). Maybe we should go ahead and request an
> Australia category now?

Sounds like a good idea.

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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Anthony Panozzo]

ion, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>



From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:



Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>

And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is a 
complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going about 
his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would rather win an 
argument than care 1 bit about the map




From: Andrew Davidson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:

 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Luke Stewart]

nStreetMap 
> Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
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> > | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history
> >
> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> service
> > road.
> >
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
> road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
> median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
> traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
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> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
> hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA
> Magazine<
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
> >
>
>
>
> From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com >
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
> To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com >
> Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> >
> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
> it or traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:30:13 +
> From: Anthony Panozzo 
> To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
> 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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>
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>
> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it
> is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the
> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
&g

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Anthony Panozzo]

y.osm.org<http://community.osm.org>
Message-ID: 
mailto:fff4b3e7-9fae-1404-764d-5c0566a11...@gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>
> How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
> used Discource enough to picture how it works.
>
If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
"new topic".

Best Regards,

Andy





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From: Andrew Davidson mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>>
To: Anthony Panozzo mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>
Cc: OpenStreetMap mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:

>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

>
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From: Anthony Panozzo mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>
To: 
"talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>"

mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>>
Cc: OpenStreetMap mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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mailto:pr3p192mb09279d6fa3e2149215c9cb55cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com>>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>



From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com><mailto:pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>>
 wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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From: An

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 21

[Anthony Panozzo]

 3. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
>   Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
>4. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
>   Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100
> From: Andy Townsend 
> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> >
> > How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
> > used Discource enough to picture how it works.
> >
> If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
> all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
> is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
> e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
> "new topic".
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
> From: Andrew Davidson 
> To: Anthony Panozzo 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> Message-ID:
> <
> cacxr7k04v4tzc+sr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc+hjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:
>
> >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> > | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history
> >
> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> service
> > road.
> >
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
> road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
> median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
> traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +
> From: Anthony Panozzo 
> To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"
> 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> Message-ID:
> <
> pr3p192mb09279d6fa3e2149215c9cb55cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it
> is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the
> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
> hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA
> Magazine<
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
> >
>
>
>
> From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com >
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
> To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com >
> Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> >
> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
> it or traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approv

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Luke Stewart]

rough email? I haven't
> > used Discource enough to picture how it works.
> >
> If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
> all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
> is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
> e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
> "new topic".
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
> From: Andrew Davidson 
> To: Anthony Panozzo 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> Message-ID:
> <
> cacxr7k04v4tzc+sr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc+hjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:
>
> >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> > | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history
> >
> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> service
> > road.
> >
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
> road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
> median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
> traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +
> From: Anthony Panozzo 
> To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"
> 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it
> is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the
> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
> hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA
> Magazine<
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
> >
>
>
>
> From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com >
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
> To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com >
> Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> >
> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
> it or traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>
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> 
> Cc: O

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Anthony Panozzo]

.."


Today's Topics:

   1. Re: New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org<http://community.osm.org> 
(Andy Townsend)
   2. U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au Digest, Vol
  179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson)
   3. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
  Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
   4. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
  Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100
From: Andy Townsend mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com>>
To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: 
community.osm.org<http://community.osm.org>
Message-ID: 
mailto:fff4b3e7-9fae-1404-764d-5c0566a11...@gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>
> How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
> used Discource enough to picture how it works.
>
If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
"new topic".

Best Regards,

Andy





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Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
From: Andrew Davidson mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>>
To: Anthony Panozzo mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>
Cc: OpenStreetMap mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:

mailto:cacxr7k04v4tzc%2bsr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc%2bhjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:

>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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To: 
"talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>"

mailto:talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>>
Cc: OpenStreetMap mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:

mailto:pr3p192mb09279d6fa3e2149215c9cb55cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com>>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>



From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com><mailto:pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>>
 wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Dian Ågesson]

rom: Andrew Davidson 
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:

I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 
13736691
| OpenStreetMap 
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the 
service

road.



I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. 
The
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end 
of a
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it 
or

traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are 
allowed

to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473




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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me 
it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t 
know the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly 
click buttons but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go 
about his edits I hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? 
| samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>


From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au 
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)


On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 
13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> 
he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the 
service road.


I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. 
The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the 
end of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign 
prohibiting it or traffic lights:


https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are 
allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other 
associated rules:


https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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From: Anthony Panozzo 
To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"

Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:


Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me 
it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t 
know the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly 
click buttons but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go 
about his edits I hope DWG see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>


And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this 
is a complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep 
going about his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you 
would rather win an argument than care 1 bit about the map


From: Andrew Davidson 
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo 
Cc: OpenStreetMap 
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au 
Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)


On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@o

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Anthony Panozzo]

tons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>



From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com><mailto:pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>>
 wrote:
 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473

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From: Anthony Panozzo mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>
To: Andrew Davidson mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>>, 
"talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>"
mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
Cc: OpenStreetMap mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
Message-ID:

mailto:pr3p192mb092790d283dcddd9a624249dcc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com>>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it is 
perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the laws, 
he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons but so 
many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I hope DWG 
see this
Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA 
Magazine<https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.>

And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is a 
complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going about 
his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would rather win an 
argument than care 1 bit about the map




From: Andrew Davidson mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
To: Anthony Panozzo mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>
Cc: OpenStreetMap mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 
179, Issue 6)

On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, 
mailto:pan...@outlook.com><mailto:pan...@outlook.com<mailto:pan...@outlook.com>>>
 wrote:

 I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691 | 
OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history> he 
deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service road.

I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The 
road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a 
median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or 
traffic lights:

https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/

There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed to 
do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13

[Luke Stewart]

o clue
> about the laws/rules or the areas, this is a joke
>
>
>
> From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:04 AM
> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 11
>
> Send Talk-au mailing list submissions to
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> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Re: New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org (Andy Townsend)
>2. U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au Digest, Vol
>   179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson)
>3. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
>   Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
>4. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
>   Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100
> From: Andy Townsend 
> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> >
> > How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
> > used Discource enough to picture how it works.
> >
> If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
> all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
> is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
> e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
> "new topic".
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
> From: Andrew Davidson 
> To: Anthony Panozzo 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> Message-ID:
> <
> cacxr7k04v4tzc+sr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc+hjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:
>
> >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> > | OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history
> >
> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> service
> > road.
> >
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit. The
> road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
> median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
> traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +
> From: Anthony Panozzo 
> To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"
> 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> Message-ID:
> <
> pr3p192mb09279d6fa3e2149215c9cb55cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it
> is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the
> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
> hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA
> Magazine<
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 28

[Anthony Panozzo]

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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +
> From: Anthony Panozzo 
> To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"
> 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> Message-ID:
> <
> pr3p192mb09279d6fa3e2149215c9cb55cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it
> is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the
> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
> hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA
> Magazine<
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
> >
>
>
>
> From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com >
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
> To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com >
> Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> >
> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
> it or traffic lights:
>
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>
> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>
> -- next part --
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:30:13 +
> From: Anthony Panozzo 
> To: Andrew Davidson , "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
> 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> Message-ID:
> <
> pr3p192mb092790d283dcddd9a624249dcc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me it
> is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know the
> laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click buttons
> but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his edits I
> hope DWG see this
> Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA Magazine<
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
> >
>
> And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is
> a complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going
> about his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would
> rather win an argument than care 1 bit about the map
>
>
>
>
> From: Andrew Davidson 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
> To: Anthony Panozzo 
> Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>
>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
> road.
>
> I'm not sure I understand wha

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 28

[Luke Stewart]

t; From: Andy Townsend 
> > To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> > >
> > > How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
> > > used Discource enough to picture how it works.
> > >
> > If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
> > all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
> > is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
> > e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
> > "new topic".
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
> > From: Andrew Davidson 
> > To: Anthony Panozzo 
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> > Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
> > Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> > cacxr7k04v4tzc+sr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc+hjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:
> >
> > >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History:
> 13736691
> > > | OpenStreetMap <
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history
> > >
> > > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> > service
> > > road.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The
> > road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of
> a
> > median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it
> or
> > traffic lights:
> >
> >
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
> >
> > There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are
> allowed
> > to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
> >
> > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
> >
> > >
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> >
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> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +
> > From: Anthony Panozzo 
> > To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"
> > 
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> > Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> >
> pr3p192mb09279d6fa3e2149215c9cb55cc...@pr3p192mb0927.eurp192.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
> it
> > is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know
> the
> > laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click
> buttons
> > but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his
> edits I
> > hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA
> > Magazine<
> >
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location
> .
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com >
> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
> > To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com >
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > >
> > Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> > Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> >
> > On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  > pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> > | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> service
> > road.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what yo

Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

[Sam Wilson]

We need to specify who will be category moderators, in the new-category 
proposal.


Who would like to be? Come to think of it, who are the mailing list admins?


On 3/5/22 07:49, Andrew Davidson wrote:

On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 9:31 AM Sam Wilson  wrote:

And it sounds like there is a plan to at some point enable new posts via
email, and when that time comes we will need a category (so it can have
its own email address). Maybe we should go ahead and request an
Australia category now?

Sounds like a good idea.


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Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org

[Ben Kelley]

I am a mailing list admin.

 - Ben.

On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 12:39, Sam Wilson  wrote:

> We need to specify who will be category moderators, in the new-category
> proposal.
>
> Who would like to be? Come to think of it, who are the mailing list admins?
>
>
> On 3/5/22 07:49, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 9:31 AM Sam Wilson  wrote:
> >> And it sounds like there is a plan to at some point enable new posts via
> >> email, and when that time comes we will need a category (so it can have
> >> its own email address). Maybe we should go ahead and request an
> >> Australia category now?
> > Sounds like a good idea.
>
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> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 30

[Anthony Panozzo]

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> >1. Re: New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org (Andy Townsend)
> >2. U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au Digest, Vol
> >   179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson)
> >3. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
> >   Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
> >4. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
> >   Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
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> > Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100
> > From: Andy Townsend 
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> > On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
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> > > How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
> > From: Andrew Davidson 
> > To: Anthony Panozzo 
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap 
> > Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
> > Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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> > On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo,  wrote:
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> > >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History:
> 13736691
> > > | OpenStreetMap <
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history
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> > > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> > service
> > > road.
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> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The
> > road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of
> a
> > median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it
> or
> > traffic lights:
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> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
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> > There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are
> allowed
> > to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
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Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 30

[Luke Stewart]

Point is, the restrictions that you added in the case of the motorway
on/offramp was incorrect, it was broken by you at some point. In addition
to being broken, there was also a duplicate no_u_turn that was added by you
(which was in fact valid). So there is no problem in deleting something
invalid as long as you can ascertain what it is meant to be. This can very
easily be achieved by looking at object history for many times where iD has
broken the relation. Do you seriously think that TheSwavu (and many other
people for that matter) have been blinding looking at objects without
imagery, object history, or other sources to confirm? There is no universe
where keeping that invalid relation was a good idea, and it was doing
nothing for routing whatsoever.
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