Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM
We do have permissions to use this data it's listed in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Sources#New_South_Wales, however from looking at their changeset history, it looks like 1. They are conducting an import by en-mass blindly adding and replacing existing data with the imported data 2. They may be engaging in directed mapping (being employed to make these changes), since their changesets are all the same, importing speed limits, except for one Local Knowledge changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/131210459 in India. If they want to conduct an import like this, they need to go through the proper process, so based on and the issues you've rased it should be fine to revert all their affected changes and then ask going forward to go through the import guidelines https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_guidelines. On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 at 21:32, Mark Pulley wrote: > Does the NSW Government Speed Zone data have a licence suitable for > importing into OSM? Also, is it generally accurate? > https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/speed-zones > > https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/road-segment-data-from-datansw > > The reason I ask is that I recently came across a few roads with speed > zones updated based on this data. The biggest problem is that the changes > made in these three changesets were incorrect (i.e. the previously surveyed > maxspeeds were updated from this data, but on survey in December 2023 the > original surveyed maxspeed was the correct one). > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129760120 > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129759614 > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129759603 > > Other changesets have been made based on this data, but I haven’t checked > the accuracy of them. > > Mark P. > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS
No, nothing that I have heard. Tony Just following up on this - has there been any further input from National Parks regarding these paths? Mark P. On 3 Jan 2024, at 3:28â¯pm, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi I was able to talk to the Parks ranger for this park. He identified himself as Patrick and I have his calling phone number which I would share off list. He identified himself as having deleted trails from Open Street Map. But that does not necessarily mean they are the same trails that Mark is reverting. He was definite that the trails that he deleted did not exist on the ground, not just that they were unauthorised or social or illegal. I encouraged him to join the discussion here. Tony I?ve prepared a partial revert for Apsley Falls, ready for upload. (Keeping the trail near the cliff, leaving the eastern non-visible trail deleted) Any objections / changes before I go ahead? Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS
Just following up on this - has there been any further input from National Parks regarding these paths? Mark P. > On 3 Jan 2024, at 3:28 pm, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > Hi > > I was able to talk to the Parks ranger for this park. He identified himself > as Patrick and I have his calling phone number which I would share off list. > > He identified himself as having deleted trails from Open Street Map. But that > does not necessarily mean they are the same trails that Mark is reverting. > > He was definite that the trails that he deleted did not exist on the ground, > not just that they were unauthorised or social or illegal. > > I encouraged him to join the discussion here. > > Tony > >> I?ve prepared a partial revert for Apsley Falls, ready for upload. (Keeping >> the trail near the cliff, leaving the eastern non-visible trail deleted) >> >> Any objections / changes before I go ahead? >> >> Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM
Bottom of the Speed Zones page has a link to CC-BY 4.0, so it’s okay only if we have a waiver for not being able to directly attribute them. There’s one for DataSA on the wiki as an example. Thanks, Andrew Welch m...@andrewwelch.net On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 at 9:01 pm, Mark Pulley wrote: > Does the NSW Government Speed Zone data have a licence suitable for > importing into OSM? Also, is it generally accurate? > https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/speed-zones > > https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/road-segment-data-from-datansw > > The reason I ask is that I recently came across a few roads with speed > zones updated based on this data. The biggest problem is that the changes > made in these three changesets were incorrect (i.e. the previously surveyed > maxspeeds were updated from this data, but on survey in December 2023 the > original surveyed maxspeed was the correct one). > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129760120 > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129759614 > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129759603 > > Other changesets have been made based on this data, but I haven’t checked > the accuracy of them. > > Mark P. > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM
Does the NSW Government Speed Zone data have a licence suitable for importing into OSM? Also, is it generally accurate? https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/speed-zones https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/road-segment-data-from-datansw The reason I ask is that I recently came across a few roads with speed zones updated based on this data. The biggest problem is that the changes made in these three changesets were incorrect (i.e. the previously surveyed maxspeeds were updated from this data, but on survey in December 2023 the original surveyed maxspeed was the correct one). https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129760120 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129759614 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/129759603 Other changesets have been made based on this data, but I haven’t checked the accuracy of them. Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
