Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
2009/11/13 John Henderson : > Let's say I add a road, upload the data, and then quickly go back and > reclassify it. A week later, I will download > http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/australia-oceania.osm.bz2 and mkgmap it > into a routable Garmin map. Often that road simply doesn't appear on > the Garmin, and won't appear for many more weekly downloads. Does the problem happen with rendering or only when you build something from the geofabrik files? Until recently there wasn't a perfect replication method that didn't miss changes, I'm not sure if geofabrik have switched so what might be happening is they pull down the whole planet file every couple of weeks to catch up on missed changes. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
John Smith wrote: > Are you talking about tiles being rendered? If that's the case you > just need to clear your browser cache. Tiles being rendered is only part of the story. I'm aware of caching at my end, and believe I've eliminated that as the sole cause. Let's say I add a road, upload the data, and then quickly go back and reclassify it. A week later, I will download http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/australia-oceania.osm.bz2 and mkgmap it into a routable Garmin map. Often that road simply doesn't appear on the Garmin, and won't appear for many more weekly downloads. This has happened to me so many times that I've come to think there's a pattern emerging. John ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
All I do to update the tiles quicker is get the permalink of the current view, load the permalink in the browser window, then do a deep refresh (usually shift+F5), which will then load the page like you have never visited it before (does not use the cache). Hope that helps. On 13/11/2009, at 1:02 AM, John Smith wrote: > 2009/11/12 John Henderson : >> If I make changes to a particular area, they're usually rendered within >> a few minutes or hours. But if I go back quickly and change something, >> it might take weeks or months for any of the changes to render. > > Are you talking about tiles being rendered? If that's the case you > just need to clear your browser cache. > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
2009/11/12 John Henderson : > If I make changes to a particular area, they're usually rendered within > a few minutes or hours. But if I go back quickly and change something, > it might take weeks or months for any of the changes to render. Are you talking about tiles being rendered? If that's the case you just need to clear your browser cache. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
Jonathan Trott wrote: > Hopefully I have done this successfully this time. I'll wait a few > weeks and see if the routing is updated at Cloudmade. Maybe this has been covered, but I haven't noticed it in discussion. I've found that re-editing OSM changes before they get time to permeate through the system often seems to stop them dead in their tracks. If I make changes to a particular area, they're usually rendered within a few minutes or hours. But if I go back quickly and change something, it might take weeks or months for any of the changes to render. John ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
On 12/11/2009, at 12:23 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: >>> Looks correct to me, although I would make the relations only >>> applicable for the section from the last intersection to the >>> intersection where the restriction occurs. >> I can't seem to find out where I can do this in the JOSM interface? >> All the selection options just give me the entire Pacific Highway (37 >> nodes) selection or the entire Military Road selection. > > Select the node where you want to split the way, if the node is on > more than one way (ie intersection) then you have to select the way > as well. > > Then Tools-->Split Way or hit P > > Then remove the relation from the section where it's not required. Hopefully I have done this successfully this time. I'll wait a few weeks and see if the routing is updated at Cloudmade. Thanks for your help! JT ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
> > Looks correct to me, although I would make the relations only > > applicable for the section from the last intersection to the > > intersection where the restriction occurs. > I can't seem to find out where I can do this in the JOSM interface? > All the selection options just give me the entire Pacific Highway (37 > nodes) selection or the entire Military Road selection. Select the node where you want to split the way, if the node is on more than one way (ie intersection) then you have to select the way as well. Then Tools-->Split Way or hit P Then remove the relation from the section where it's not required. -- Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
On 11/11/2009, at 18:01, Ross Scanlon wrote: >> The two turns that I have to pass almost every day are the following: >> Point 31395304 (Holt Avenue and Military Road in Cremorne, NSW) >> should >> be no right turn both directions here. >> Point 13877590 (Christie Street and Pacific Highway in St Leonards. >> NSW) should be no right turn both directions here also. > > Looks correct to me, although I would make the relations only > applicable for the section from the last intersection to the > intersection where the restriction occurs. I can't seem to find out where I can do this in the JOSM interface? All the selection options just give me the entire Pacific Highway (37 nodes) selection or the entire Military Road selection. >> Another problem I just recently discovered is Robsons Rd, Keiraville, >> NSW is duplicated. One with 17 nodes and one with 4. What's the best >> way to clean this up as there are roads that are joined to one and >> not >> the other. >> I'm hoping there is an easy way to fix this? > > Delete the least appropriate way and reconnect the roads. Sorry I > don't know of any easy fix. OK, I think I've fixed all this, and other errors that cropped up in the validator at the time. Thanks, JT ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:16:01 +1100 Sam Couter wrote: > Ross Scanlon wrote: > > a fence and medium strip dividing the two. > > That's median, meaning in the middle. Not medium, which means average. > > Pet peeve. > -- > Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au > OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C Yeah, should not do things late at night. -- Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
Ross Scanlon wrote: > a fence and medium strip dividing the two. That's median, meaning in the middle. Not medium, which means average. Pet peeve. -- Sam Couter | mailto:s...@couter.id.au OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
> The two turns that I have to pass almost every day are the following: > Point 31395304 (Holt Avenue and Military Road in Cremorne, NSW) should > be no right turn both directions here. > Point 13877590 (Christie Street and Pacific Highway in St Leonards. > NSW) should be no right turn both directions here also. There is also the issue here that military road is a dual carriage way, even though a it's only a fence and medium strip dividing the two. If you changed Military Road to a dual carriage road and then just connect the side roads as appropriate then there is no need for relations except possibly like at Rangers Road where there is time restriction. Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
> The two turns that I have to pass almost every day are the following: > Point 31395304 (Holt Avenue and Military Road in Cremorne, NSW) should > be no right turn both directions here. > Point 13877590 (Christie Street and Pacific Highway in St Leonards. > NSW) should be no right turn both directions here also. Actually I just ran the JOSM validator across these and there is a painting problem. The via nodes are incorrect. I suggest updating JOSM and add the validator plugin then see what it has to say to correct the problem. -- Cheers Ross ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Help with a couple of things
> I think I have done the right thing when setting the no_right_turn > restriction using JOSM 2186 but I have waited over a month without > seeing updated results using Roadee or on the cloudmade.com website. > Can someone check my work and see if I am doing anything wrong? This may just be a lack of being updated by Roadee and/or cloudmade. > The two turns that I have to pass almost every day are the following: > Point 31395304 (Holt Avenue and Military Road in Cremorne, NSW) should > be no right turn both directions here. > Point 13877590 (Christie Street and Pacific Highway in St Leonards. > NSW) should be no right turn both directions here also. Looks correct to me, although I would make the relations only applicable for the section from the last intersection to the intersection where the restriction occurs. > Another problem I just recently discovered is Robsons Rd, Keiraville, > NSW is duplicated. One with 17 nodes and one with 4. What's the best > way to clean this up as there are roads that are joined to one and not > the other. > I'm hoping there is an easy way to fix this? Delete the least appropriate way and reconnect the roads. Sorry I don't know of any easy fix. -- Ross Scanlon ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Help with a couple of things
Hi everyone. I'm pretty new to the openstreetmap project and have been lurking on this list for a while. I'm mainly using openstreetmap via Roadee on my iPhone and in various apps that use the data. My primary driver for editing the maps is to fix the routing problems that I see when using Roadee. These are mostly right turn restrictions and one way road issues. I think I have done the right thing when setting the no_right_turn restriction using JOSM 2186 but I have waited over a month without seeing updated results using Roadee or on the cloudmade.com website. Can someone check my work and see if I am doing anything wrong? The two turns that I have to pass almost every day are the following: Point 31395304 (Holt Avenue and Military Road in Cremorne, NSW) should be no right turn both directions here. Point 13877590 (Christie Street and Pacific Highway in St Leonards. NSW) should be no right turn both directions here also. Another problem I just recently discovered is Robsons Rd, Keiraville, NSW is duplicated. One with 17 nodes and one with 4. What's the best way to clean this up as there are roads that are joined to one and not the other. I'm hoping there is an easy way to fix this? Thanks, JT ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
