Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Andrew Harvey]

Those suggestions look fine to me. For flags it means maps can render the
flag graphic, some is a bit redundant but not wrong.

On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 10:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 17:01, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>
>>
>> I can see us using wikidata for other similar situations. Thank you for
>> also pointing that out.
>>
>
> OT to roads but on the subject of Wikidata
>
> Have noticed recently that iD has upped it's "suggestions" for various
> features to include a lot more Wikidata, but I'm not sure about their ideas?
>
> e.g. for Flagpoles, they now include:
> + country=AU (instead of au)
> + flag:name=Australia
> + flag:wikidata=Q81676
> + subject=Australia
> + subject:wikidata=Q408
>
> Do we really need a link to Australia?
>
> They also now have optional presets (including short names & Wikidata) for
> "Qld Ambulance Service" when you enter Ambulance, "Qld Police Service" for
> Police, & "Qld Fire & Emergency Services, but to get that one, you have to
> enter Queensland, not Fire?
>
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 17:01, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

>
> I can see us using wikidata for other similar situations. Thank you for
> also pointing that out.
>

OT to roads but on the subject of Wikidata

Have noticed recently that iD has upped it's "suggestions" for various
features to include a lot more Wikidata, but I'm not sure about their ideas?

e.g. for Flagpoles, they now include:
+ country=AU (instead of au)
+ flag:name=Australia
+ flag:wikidata=Q81676
+ subject=Australia
+ subject:wikidata=Q408

Do we really need a link to Australia?

They also now have optional presets (including short names & Wikidata) for
"Qld Ambulance Service" when you enter Ambulance, "Qld Police Service" for
Police, & "Qld Fire & Emergency Services, but to get that one, you have to
enter Queensland, not Fire?

Thanks

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Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Andrew Harvey]

You can "use any tag you like"
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like

To put forward another suggestion, you could consider using
operator:type:admin_level=4 for state, =6 for LGA and =2 for commonwealth.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#Table_1:_Countries_using_admin_level_3.E2.80.9310

The admin_level tag I feel does a better job at coding the administrative
hierarchy globally, and ensures we don't need to consider the distinction
between a state/territory, or a shire/council. Plus it's already documented
and in use.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 12:38, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

>   Thanks yet AGAIN Andrew,
>
> I believe ...
>
> *operator:type:government=state*
>
> ...best suits.
>
> I can see us using wikidata for other similar situations. Thank you for
> also pointing that out.
>
> Thanks again,
> Andrew
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 07:00, Andrew Harvey 
> wrote:
>
>> My opinion is it's better to keep the values high level as listed at
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type.
>>
>> I'd opt to instead use operator:wikidata=* to specify which government or
>> government agency is the operator and use wikidata to record other details.
>>
>> eg. operator:wikidata=Q1735793 (Main Roads Western Australia),
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1735793 which is recorded as part of
>> Government of Western Australia, which in turn is recorded as instance of
>> state government.
>>
>> operator:wikidata can similarly be used for Local Governments, Airports,
>> Ports, Forestry Corporations, private mine site operators, private retail
>> companies eg https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18378048
>>
>> If you preferred to store this directly in OSM, then something like your
>> second option operator:type:government=state could work.
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 03:20, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone,  I just learnt a whole lot.
>>>
>>> operator:type = private
>>> operator:type = government
>>>
>>> Is a nice fit (thanks again Andrew).
>>>
>>> Now, to probably extend the question a little bit (sorry). What if I
>>> tried to add more specific info about the type, for example
>>>
>>> operator:type=
>>>
>>> government:state
>>> government:lga
>>> government:airport
>>> government:port
>>> government:forestry
>>> private:mine
>>> private:retail
>>> private:industrial
>>> 
>>>
>>> Or coule a new key (suffix?) such as ":subtype" get used...
>>>
>>> operator:type:subtype=
>>>
>>> state
>>> lga
>>> airport
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the answers so far!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 9:36 pm Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>

 On 9/11/21 9:57 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:

 We have a tag for this
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type

 +1.

 Housing estates are simply pieces of land that have been developed and
 sub divided by a 'developer' - once finished the houses are sold off and
 the roads, water pipes, sewage pipes, electricity supply etc etc and
 'given' by the 'developer' to the respective bodies - thus the maintenance
 is no longer the 'developers'. The council may also require parklands, a
 local library as part of the development. If the community is gated then
 they may have to maintain things, do rubbish collection and disposal ...


 On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are
> belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not
> belong to the public sector.
>
> Some examples would be ways within:
>
>- housing estates
>- gated communities
>- within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility
>
> Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.
>
> One example:
>
>- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244
>-
>
> https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg
>- https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/
>
>
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> Andrew
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Andrew Hughes]

  Thanks yet AGAIN Andrew,

I believe ...

*operator:type:government=state*

...best suits.

I can see us using wikidata for other similar situations. Thank you for
also pointing that out.

Thanks again,
Andrew


On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 07:00, Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

> My opinion is it's better to keep the values high level as listed at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type.
>
> I'd opt to instead use operator:wikidata=* to specify which government or
> government agency is the operator and use wikidata to record other details.
>
> eg. operator:wikidata=Q1735793 (Main Roads Western Australia),
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1735793 which is recorded as part of
> Government of Western Australia, which in turn is recorded as instance of
> state government.
>
> operator:wikidata can similarly be used for Local Governments, Airports,
> Ports, Forestry Corporations, private mine site operators, private retail
> companies eg https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18378048
>
> If you preferred to store this directly in OSM, then something like your
> second option operator:type:government=state could work.
>
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 03:20, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone,  I just learnt a whole lot.
>>
>> operator:type = private
>> operator:type = government
>>
>> Is a nice fit (thanks again Andrew).
>>
>> Now, to probably extend the question a little bit (sorry). What if I
>> tried to add more specific info about the type, for example
>>
>> operator:type=
>>
>> government:state
>> government:lga
>> government:airport
>> government:port
>> government:forestry
>> private:mine
>> private:retail
>> private:industrial
>> 
>>
>> Or coule a new key (suffix?) such as ":subtype" get used...
>>
>> operator:type:subtype=
>>
>> state
>> lga
>> airport
>> ...
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all the answers so far!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 9:36 pm Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 9/11/21 9:57 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>>>
>>> We have a tag for this
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type
>>>
>>> +1.
>>>
>>> Housing estates are simply pieces of land that have been developed and
>>> sub divided by a 'developer' - once finished the houses are sold off and
>>> the roads, water pipes, sewage pipes, electricity supply etc etc and
>>> 'given' by the 'developer' to the respective bodies - thus the maintenance
>>> is no longer the 'developers'. The council may also require parklands, a
>>> local library as part of the development. If the community is gated then
>>> they may have to maintain things, do rubbish collection and disposal ...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>>>
 Hi All,

 I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are
 belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not
 belong to the public sector.

 Some examples would be ways within:

- housing estates
- gated communities
- within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility

 Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.

 One example:

- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244
-

 https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg
- https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/


 Thank you,
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Andrew Harvey]

My opinion is it's better to keep the values high level as listed at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type.

I'd opt to instead use operator:wikidata=* to specify which government or
government agency is the operator and use wikidata to record other details.

eg. operator:wikidata=Q1735793 (Main Roads Western Australia),
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1735793 which is recorded as part of
Government of Western Australia, which in turn is recorded as instance of
state government.

operator:wikidata can similarly be used for Local Governments, Airports,
Ports, Forestry Corporations, private mine site operators, private retail
companies eg https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18378048

If you preferred to store this directly in OSM, then something like your
second option operator:type:government=state could work.

On Fri, 12 Nov 2021 at 03:20, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

> Thanks everyone,  I just learnt a whole lot.
>
> operator:type = private
> operator:type = government
>
> Is a nice fit (thanks again Andrew).
>
> Now, to probably extend the question a little bit (sorry). What if I tried
> to add more specific info about the type, for example
>
> operator:type=
>
> government:state
> government:lga
> government:airport
> government:port
> government:forestry
> private:mine
> private:retail
> private:industrial
> 
>
> Or coule a new key (suffix?) such as ":subtype" get used...
>
> operator:type:subtype=
>
> state
> lga
> airport
> ...
>
>
> Thanks for all the answers so far!
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 9:36 pm Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 9/11/21 9:57 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>>
>> We have a tag for this
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type
>>
>> +1.
>>
>> Housing estates are simply pieces of land that have been developed and
>> sub divided by a 'developer' - once finished the houses are sold off and
>> the roads, water pipes, sewage pipes, electricity supply etc etc and
>> 'given' by the 'developer' to the respective bodies - thus the maintenance
>> is no longer the 'developers'. The council may also require parklands, a
>> local library as part of the development. If the community is gated then
>> they may have to maintain things, do rubbish collection and disposal ...
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are
>>> belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not
>>> belong to the public sector.
>>>
>>> Some examples would be ways within:
>>>
>>>- housing estates
>>>- gated communities
>>>- within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility
>>>
>>> Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.
>>>
>>> One example:
>>>
>>>- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244
>>>-
>>>
>>> https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg
>>>- https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Andrew
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Andrew Hughes]

Thanks everyone,  I just learnt a whole lot.

operator:type = private
operator:type = government

Is a nice fit (thanks again Andrew).

Now, to probably extend the question a little bit (sorry). What if I tried
to add more specific info about the type, for example

operator:type=

government:state
government:lga
government:airport
government:port
government:forestry
private:mine
private:retail
private:industrial


Or coule a new key (suffix?) such as ":subtype" get used...

operator:type:subtype=

state
lga
airport
...


Thanks for all the answers so far!


On Wed, 10 Nov 2021, 9:36 pm Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 9/11/21 9:57 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
> We have a tag for this
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type
>
> +1.
>
> Housing estates are simply pieces of land that have been developed and sub
> divided by a 'developer' - once finished the houses are sold off and the
> roads, water pipes, sewage pipes, electricity supply etc etc and 'given' by
> the 'developer' to the respective bodies - thus the maintenance is no
> longer the 'developers'. The council may also require parklands, a local
> library as part of the development. If the community is gated then they may
> have to maintain things, do rubbish collection and disposal ...
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are
>> belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not
>> belong to the public sector.
>>
>> Some examples would be ways within:
>>
>>- housing estates
>>- gated communities
>>- within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility
>>
>> Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.
>>
>> One example:
>>
>>- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244
>>-
>>
>> https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg
>>- https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Andrew
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Warin]

On 9/11/21 9:57 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
We have a tag for this 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type 



+1.

Housing estates are simply pieces of land that have been developed and 
sub divided by a 'developer' - once finished the houses are sold off and 
the roads, water pipes, sewage pipes, electricity supply etc etc and 
'given' by the 'developer' to the respective bodies - thus the 
maintenance is no longer the 'developers'. The council may also require 
parklands, a local library as part of the development. If the community 
is gated then they may have to maintain things, do rubbish collection 
and disposal ...




On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes > wrote:


Hi All,

I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they
are belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets
and do not belong to the public sector.

Some examples would be ways within:

  * housing estates
  * gated communities
  * within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility

Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.

One example:

  * https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244

  * 
https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg


  * https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/



Thank you,
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Andrew Harvey]

We have a tag for this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are
> belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not
> belong to the public sector.
>
> Some examples would be ways within:
>
>- housing estates
>- gated communities
>- within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility
>
> Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.
>
> One example:
>
>- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244
>-
>
> https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg
>- https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/
>
>
> Thank you,
> Andrew
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Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

[Phil Wyatt]

In regard to those images

 

https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S010_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R2-web.jpg

 

This one MAY be for residents only in which case it could be a driveway with 
access=private BUT I would wait for any signage post construction just to be 
sure. They are often behind gates if private.

 

Cheers - Phil

 

From: Benjamin Ceravolo  
Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2021 5:38 PM
To: Andrew Hughes 
Cc: OSM Australian Talk List 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Tagging non-govt (road) ways

 

In a subdivision (like in the example given) once completed the road will be 
'given' over to the local council to meaning thereby becoming government roads. 
At least in Victoria.

 

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes mailto:ahhug...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi All,

 

I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are 
belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not belong 
to the public sector.

 

Some examples would be ways within:

*   housing estates
*   gated communities
*   within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility

Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.

 

One example:

*   https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244
*   
https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg
*   https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/

 

Thank you,

Andrew

 

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On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:37, Benjamin Ceravolo 
wrote:

> In a subdivision (like in the example given) once completed the road will
> be 'given' over to the local council to *manage* thereby becoming
> government roads. At least in Victoria.
>
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are
>> belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not
>> belong to the public sector.
>>
>> Some examples would be ways within:
>>
>>- housing estates
>>- gated communities
>>- within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility
>>
>> Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.
>>
>> One example:
>>
>>- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244
>>-
>>
>> https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg
>>- https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/
>>
>>
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>> Andrew
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[Benjamin Ceravolo]

In a subdivision (like in the example given) once completed the road will
be 'given' over to the local council to meaning thereby becoming government
roads. At least in Victoria.

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 17:31, Andrew Hughes  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I was wondering how I could tag ways that would indicate that they are
> belonging to "non-government" - aka these are private assets and do not
> belong to the public sector.
>
> Some examples would be ways within:
>
>- housing estates
>- gated communities
>- within an 'industrial'/'commercial' facility
>
> Note: this is not related to access=private that is different.
>
> One example:
>
>- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/853338244
>-
>
> https://inpg.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/82-96_HAMPSTEAD_RD_S020_EXT_STREETSCAPE_FINAL_R-web-1920x1279.jpg
>- https://inpg.com.au/project/hampstead-park/
>
>
> Thank you,
> Andrew
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