Re: [Talk-ca] Canada Building imports wiki page

[Nate Wessel]

John,

I mentioned several times in the various email threads that I planned to 
make substantial changes to the wiki. If you think something I added is 
a value judgment, I encourage you to point it out, on the wiki itself 
ideally. I think I've mostly been restructuring the page (without 
deleting much) and adding content on data quality.


Best,

Nate Wessel
Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning
NateWessel.com 

On 1/24/19 12:56 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote:

On Jan 24, 2019, at 9:29 AM, john whelan  wrote:

You seem to have made rather large changes without consultation including 
changing the title of the project.  You have also added some value judgments.  
A number of people were involved in the original and it might have been nice to 
consult with them before making such drastic changes.  The word consensus 
springs to mind.

I make no comment on whether the changes are good or bad merely extensive 
without apparent consultation.

John, much consensus is achieved in wiki Discussion(s), simply click the 
Discussion tab, https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_Building_Import and 
notice that there are four threads/sections under Discussion there already.

If some "number of people" were involved in the original, they are perfectly 
welcome to join there.

I'm not saying "don't do this in talk-ca" I am saying "there are often 
more-appropriate (vs. less-appropriate) places to have a discussion to achieve consensus."  
Sometimes, it makes sense to have an off-list email conversation in a one-on-one or one-on-many 
fashion.  Thanks.

SteveA
California


On Jan 24, 2019, at 9:40 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea  
wrote:

On Jan 24, 2019, at 9:29 AM, john whelan  wrote:

You seem to have made rather large changes without consultation including 
changing the title of the project.  You have also added some value judgments.  
A number of people were involved in the original and it might have been nice to 
consult with them before making such drastic changes.  The word consensus 
springs to mind.

I make no comment on whether the changes are good or bad merely extensive 
without apparent consultation.

John, much consensus is achieved in wiki Discussion(s), simply click the 
Discussion tab, https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_Building_Import and 
notice that there are four threads/sections under Discussion there already.

If some "number of people" were involved in the original, they are perfectly 
welcome to join there.

I'm not saying "don't do this in talk-ca" I am saying "there are often 
more-appropriate (vs. less-appropriate) places to have a discussion to achieve consensus."  
Sometimes, it makes sense to have an off-list email conversation in a one-on-one or one-on-many 
fashion.  Thanks.

SteveA
California


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Re: [Talk-ca] Canada Building imports wiki page

[OSM Volunteer stevea]

On Jan 24, 2019, at 9:29 AM, john whelan  wrote:
> You seem to have made rather large changes without consultation including 
> changing the title of the project.  You have also added some value judgments. 
>  A number of people were involved in the original and it might have been nice 
> to consult with them before making such drastic changes.  The word consensus 
> springs to mind.
> 
> I make no comment on whether the changes are good or bad merely extensive 
> without apparent consultation. 

John, much consensus is achieved in wiki Discussion(s), simply click the 
Discussion tab, https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_Building_Import and 
notice that there are four threads/sections under Discussion there already.

If some "number of people" were involved in the original, they are perfectly 
welcome to join there.

I'm not saying "don't do this in talk-ca" I am saying "there are often 
more-appropriate (vs. less-appropriate) places to have a discussion to achieve 
consensus."  Sometimes, it makes sense to have an off-list email conversation 
in a one-on-one or one-on-many fashion.  Thanks.

SteveA
California

> On Jan 24, 2019, at 9:40 AM, OSM Volunteer stevea  
> wrote:
> 
> On Jan 24, 2019, at 9:29 AM, john whelan  wrote:
>> You seem to have made rather large changes without consultation including 
>> changing the title of the project.  You have also added some value 
>> judgments.  A number of people were involved in the original and it might 
>> have been nice to consult with them before making such drastic changes.  The 
>> word consensus springs to mind.
>> 
>> I make no comment on whether the changes are good or bad merely extensive 
>> without apparent consultation. 
> 
> John, much consensus is achieved in wiki Discussion(s), simply click the 
> Discussion tab, https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Talk:Canada_Building_Import and 
> notice that there are four threads/sections under Discussion there already.
> 
> If some "number of people" were involved in the original, they are perfectly 
> welcome to join there.
> 
> I'm not saying "don't do this in talk-ca" I am saying "there are often 
> more-appropriate (vs. less-appropriate) places to have a discussion to 
> achieve consensus."  Sometimes, it makes sense to have an off-list email 
> conversation in a one-on-one or one-on-many fashion.  Thanks.
> 
> SteveA
> California


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Re: [Talk-ca] Canada Building imports wiki page

[john whelan]

You seem to have made rather large changes without consultation including
changing the title of the project.  You have also added some value
judgments.  A number of people were involved in the original and it might
have been nice to consult with them before making such drastic changes.
The word consensus springs to mind.

I make no comment on whether the changes are good or bad merely extensive
without apparent consultation.

Cheerio John

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:13, Nate Wessel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just a heads up that I've moved the page documenting the plan to import
> buildings across Canada, much discussed on this list of late. The idea is
> that the new title is more concise, easily searchable, and clearly explains
> what we're trying to do. All page history has been preserved and a redirect
> has been put in place.
>
> Previous:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Canada/Canada_Stats_Canada_Building_Outlines_Import/Plan=no
>
> Current: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada_Building_Import
>
> If you haven't looked at the wiki lately, there have been some big
> changes, and more on the way. The goal is to get this page to clearly and
> explicitly document the import plan, not only to guide editors, but also to
> set people's minds at ease, answer any questions, and as a useful
> description of where all this data came from once the import is over.
>
> Please feel encouraged to edit the page to get it in line with the
> documentation required for import as described on the import guidelines
> page.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
>
> Best,
> --
> Nate Wessel
> Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning
> NateWessel.com 
>
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[Talk-ca] Canada Building imports wiki page

[Nate Wessel]

Hi all,

Just a heads up that I've moved the page documenting the plan to import 
buildings across Canada, much discussed on this list of late. The idea 
is that the new title is more concise, easily searchable, and clearly 
explains what we're trying to do. All page history has been preserved 
and a redirect has been put in place.


Previous: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=WikiProject_Canada/Canada_Stats_Canada_Building_Outlines_Import/Plan=no 



Current: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada_Building_Import

If you haven't looked at the wiki lately, there have been some big 
changes, and more on the way. The goal is to get this page to clearly 
and explicitly document the import plan, not only to guide editors, but 
also to set people's minds at ease, answer any questions, and as a 
useful description of where all this data came from once the import is over.


Please feel encouraged to edit the page to get it in line with the 
documentation required for import as described on the import guidelines 
page.


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

Best,

--
Nate Wessel
Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning
NateWessel.com 

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