Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2012-04-06 Thread Daniel Begin
Forwarding an email that did not reach talk-ca list - 

 

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From: Bégin, Daniel [mailto:daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca] 
Sent: April 6, 2012 13:24
To: 'talk-ca@openstreetmap.org'
Cc: 'David Groom'
Subject: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running! 

Bonjour OSMers! 

Canvec.osm product conversion is still running. However, we have found some
problems in the database with the hydrographic network (at least in Ontario)
where there are nodes every meter!

 

We are working to circumscribe the problem and the concerned files will be
reprocessed. If you ever find some files having this problem, please do not
hesitate to contact me.

 

In the meantime...

I've been asked some questions about the coastline - Thanks to David Groom.
Digging further on the answers I provided, I've found that it is now
possible to differentiate between a coastline and a waterbody for BC and
most of the Nunavut. I've adjusted the process and will provide real Osm
coastline when available.

 

Furthermore...

Our database is ready to manage maxspeed and oneway information. As soon the
provinces provide the information, the Canvec.osm product will have it.

 

Let me know if you find unexpected problems in the data. 

Cheers, 
Daniel 

 

 

 

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[Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2012-04-04 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour OSMers!

Canvec.osm product conversion is running since 08:30 - Sherbrooke time. It is 
based on Canvec Release 10.
All files will be reprocessed. From south to north, east to west, except for a 
few priorities.
What is new:
*   There is no more Here be Dragons areas in the Canvec product! NRCan 
completed mapping Canada at 50K scale about 2 months ago. Almost 100 years 
after Canada started mapping at this scale (approximately!-)
  * Municipal Boundaries for SK,MB,NB,YT,NT and NU - linear - are available

Changes from previous release:
*   Water definition (natural=water) now fits the Osm coastline definition 
(high water level).
  * Format of the ZippedOsm.txt in ftp site has changed.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#CanVec_10http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
Thanks to those who are maintaining this wiki page :-)
Let me know if you find unexpected problems in the data.
Cheers,
Daniel


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[Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2011-08-11 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour OSMers!
 
Canvec.osm product conversion is running since 07:30 - Sherbrooke time. It is 
based on Canvec release 8.0.

All files will be reprocessed. From south to north, east to west, except for a 
few priorities.

What is new:
*   Updated road for BC,AB,SK,ON,NS,YK,NT
*   New files very far up north

Changes from previous release: 
*   Swapped amenity=school/prison tag values corrected 
*   Misspelled tag value on highway=unclassified corrected. 
*   Duplicated railway=rail features removed. 
*   Single node natural=land within natural=water inner polygon created 
only if a name tag is attached to it. 
*   Multiple consecutive spaces in name tag are removed. 
*   name:fr/name:en applied on all features when available. 
*   Surface orientation respects right-hand rule. 
*   Missing large polygons should have been corrected (to confirm).
 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec#CanVec_8

Thanks to those who are maintaining this wiki page :-)

Let me know if you find unexpected problems in the data. I'll be out of the 
office for a week. I'll check/answer your emails when I'm back.

Cheers, 
Daniel 

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-11-30 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Bégin, Daniel
daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:
 Bonjour OSMers!

 Canvec.osm Product conversion is running since 16:10 - Sherbrooke time.
 It is based on the new Canvec release (7.0).

Thank you, Daniel!

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Shand
Thanks  Daniel!

So if I'm working on importing canvec data - should I wait until the tiles I'm 
importing are complete before I continue?

B

On 2010-11-30, at 5:46 PM, Richard Weait wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Bégin, Daniel
 daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:
 Bonjour OSMers!
 
 Canvec.osm Product conversion is running since 16:10 - Sherbrooke time.
 It is based on the new Canvec release (7.0).
 
 Thank you, Daniel!
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-11-30 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Hi Robert,

It depends on you !-)
 
If you are not concerned by updates in Quebec and in Manitoba, and if you like 
to remove natural=land areas manually, and convert runway to apron before 
capturing corresponding runway and taxiway, then I guess you should resume your 
imports.

You can also check the status of the conversion for your area using the 
following link ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub/ZippedOsm.txt instead of 
waiting that the entire country is finished!

Cheers,

Daniel



-Original Message-
From: Robert Shand [mailto:b...@shand.org.uk] 
Sent: November 30, 2010 16:56
To: Richard Weait
Cc: Bégin, Daniel; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

Thanks  Daniel!

So if I'm working on importing canvec data - should I wait until the tiles I'm 
importing are complete before I continue?

B

On 2010-11-30, at 5:46 PM, Richard Weait wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Bégin, Daniel 
 daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:
 Bonjour OSMers!
 
 Canvec.osm Product conversion is running since 16:10 - Sherbrooke time.
 It is based on the new Canvec release (7.0).
 
 Thank you, Daniel!
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-23 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Bégin, Daniel
daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:
 Hi all,

 Actually, Canvec files conversion is completed!

Bravo!

 - The process ran for 46 days;
 - 114828 .osm files were created and ...
 - Compressed into 13117 .zip files

 If the community import the whole Canvec content, there will be white spaces
 remaining on the map because some area have never been mapped at 50K scale -
 around 450 NTS maps are still missing on Ellesmere and Baffin Island.  It
 should be completed within the next few years.  Be patient!

Thank you so much, Daniel, and NRCan!

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-23 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour Sam,

The total file size is about 17Gb.

I would suggest you to wait a bit before copying them all.  I've just found 
that the datasets produced after 10-08-18 06:00:00 doesn't have tags on it. I'm 
reprocessing them.  It sould take less than 24hrs.  However the rest of the 
files are ok.  

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: samvekem...@gmail.com [mailto:samvekem...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam 
Vekemans
Sent: 23 août 2010 10:48
To: Bégin, Daniel; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

hi,
Great work! and ahead of schedual too (i think)


What is the total file size of the entire canvec-osm.zip file set?



i ask as i want to download the entire set for the garminmapset of Canada.


thanks,
sam

On 8/23/10, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:
 Hi all,

 Actually, Canvec files conversion is completed!

 - The process ran for 46 days;
 - 114828 .osm files were created and ...
 - Compressed into 13117 .zip files

 If the community import the whole Canvec content, there will be white 
 spaces remaining on the map because some area have never been mapped 
 at 50K scale - around 450 NTS maps are still missing on Ellesmere and 
 Baffin Island.  It should be completed within the next few years.  Be patient!

 Next Canvec delivery is planned for this fall, including ...
 - Updated Road Network for Quebec
 - Road Network Addressing for Manitoba
 - Updated hydrography in BC for coastal area

 Have fun!

 Daniel

 Note: French Canvec wiki pages are coming slowly.  I still hope to 
 complete them before the end of the summer!

 English - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
 French - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:CanVec
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:CanVec




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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-23 Thread Sam Vekemans
17gigs, cool.  I thought it would be bigger.

So a 500 gig external hd should be sufficient to get everything i need done.


Thanks,
Sam

On 8/23/10, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:
 Bonjour Sam,

 The total file size is about 17Gb.

 I would suggest you to wait a bit before copying them all.  I've just found
 that the datasets produced after 10-08-18 06:00:00 doesn't have tags on it.
 I'm reprocessing them.  It sould take less than 24hrs.  However the rest of
 the files are ok.

 Daniel

 -Original Message-
 From: samvekem...@gmail.com [mailto:samvekem...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam
 Vekemans
 Sent: 23 août 2010 10:48
 To: Bégin, Daniel; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
 Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

 hi,
 Great work! and ahead of schedual too (i think)


 What is the total file size of the entire canvec-osm.zip file set?



 i ask as i want to download the entire set for the garminmapset of Canada.


 thanks,
 sam

 On 8/23/10, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:
 Hi all,

 Actually, Canvec files conversion is completed!

 - The process ran for 46 days;
 - 114828 .osm files were created and ...
 - Compressed into 13117 .zip files

 If the community import the whole Canvec content, there will be white
 spaces remaining on the map because some area have never been mapped
 at 50K scale - around 450 NTS maps are still missing on Ellesmere and
 Baffin Island.  It should be completed within the next few years.  Be
 patient!

 Next Canvec delivery is planned for this fall, including ...
 - Updated Road Network for Quebec
 - Road Network Addressing for Manitoba
 - Updated hydrography in BC for coastal area

 Have fun!

 Daniel

 Note: French Canvec wiki pages are coming slowly.  I still hope to
 complete them before the end of the summer!

 English - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
 French - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:CanVec
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:CanVec




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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-23 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Steve Singer ssinger...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Bégin, Daniel wrote:

 Hi all,

 Actually, Canvec files conversion is completed!

 Thanks for all your work on this and keeping the community involved at each
 step.  Also thanks to NRCan for supporting this.

 50K scale - around 450 NTS maps are still missing on Ellesmere and Baffin
 Island.  It should be completed within the next few years.  Be patient!

Why is there no addressing for tile 030M14 (covers northern Toronto
and parts of York and Durham Regions)?

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-17 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour Adam and all,
 
The listing of all zipped .osm files is now available on ftp site.  The listing 
is updated each time a new .zip file gets available.  If a .zip file is 
replaced, the corresponding information is also replaced. The listing has more 
than 100 thousands entries (4Mb).
 
The listing can be found at ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub/ZippedOsm.txt  
It contains the size in bytes, creation date/time and the name of each .osm 
file. The entries are sorted by creation date/time.
 
  Length Date   TimeName 
  ...
   682094  10-08-17 10:17   057F11.1.osm
   916134  10-08-17 10:17   057F11.0.osm
  1372948  10-08-17 10:17   057F11.3.osm
  2365038  10-08-17 10:17   057F11.2.osm
   833421  10-08-17 10:20   057F12.2.osm
   972300  10-08-17 10:20   057F12.1.osm
  1350751  10-08-17 10:20   057F12.0.osm
   644138  10-08-17 10:20   057F12.3.osm
   528423  10-08-17 11:07   057F13.0.osm
  1099678  10-08-17 11:07   057F13.3.osm
  1471351  10-08-17 11:07   057F13.2.osm
   571030  10-08-17 11:07   057F13.1.osm
 
Hope it helps
 
Daniel



From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org 
[mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Bégin, Daniel
Sent: 16 août 2010 15:38
To: Adam Dunn
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!


Hi Adam,  
 
I understand the expected usage but It will not be possible on short terms. 
 
However, I will try to create a listing of all .osm files using a time field.  
If possible, it should be updated at each .zip file creation for the next 
release - a new .zip file should triggered an update of the listing for each 
.osm subtitle.
 
Daniel
 




From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 16 août 2010 14:46
To: Bégin, Daniel
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!


I was intending for the file listing to be sorted alphabetically, while the rss 
one would be sorted chronologically. Having a timestamp field in the file 
listing could work though.
The advantage to having the RSS/Atom format is that people can plug it into 
RSS/Atom/xml readers if they use any.

Adam


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca 
wrote:


Bonjour Adam,
 
About point 1...
I'll see what can be done and, if possible, I will produce it for this 
release.
 
About point 2...
If the text file proposed on point 1 have a date and time field, you 
could get all the information you are looking for in a single .txt file. Am I 
right?
 
Cheers,
 
Daniel







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[Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-16 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Hi all, an update on product conversion.  So far ...
 
- The process have been running for 42 days;
- 11415 files have been processed - an average of 270 files a day;
 
To come this week ...
- 052A06
- The rest of the files
 
 
Miscellaneous ...
 
natural=peak
It was supposed to be there but obviously it is not.  I'll find the problem and 
it will be included in the next release.
 
natural=land
area features are a duplicate of natural=water inner polygon. It will be 
removed for the next release.  Point features will still be there.
 
Canvec Product Description
- Features, geometry and tiling description: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
 
French Canvec wiki pages
I still hope to produce it before the end of the summer!
 
 
Cheers,
 
Daniel
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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-16 Thread Adam Dunn
For the next release, would it be possible to get:
1. A text file (stored on the ftp) that lists all the quadtree-tiles output.
Some people might want to write scripts that can do work based on available
CanVec osm files, but it would help to know how much subdividing occurred.
Currently, we must download the zip file to determine if 092H04.0.1.2 exists
or if the tiling stopped at 092H04.0.1.

2. An RSS or Atom feed of the tiles that have been processed. Not as useful
as (1), but some people might be interested in knowing the latest without
searching around the ftp. This would be most useful when already processed
tiles get re-processed, or when tiles get processed in a different order
(such as 052A06).

Thanks for the great releases!

Adam

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bégin, Daniel 
daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:

   Hi all, an update on product conversion.  So far ...

 - The process have been running for 42 days;
 - 11415 files have been processed - an average of 270 files a day;

 To come this week ...
 - 052A06
  - The rest of the files


 Miscellaneous ...

 natural=peak
 It was supposed to be there but obviously it is not.  I'll find the problem
 and it will be included in the next release.

 natural=land
 area features are a duplicate of natural=water inner polygon. It will be
 removed for the next release.  Point features will still be there.

 Canvec Product Description
  - Features, geometry and tiling description:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec

  French Canvec wiki pages
 I still hope to produce it before the end of the summer!


 Cheers,

 Daniel

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-16 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour Adam,
 
About point 1...
I'll see what can be done and, if possible, I will produce it for this release.
 
About point 2...
If the text file proposed on point 1 have a date and time field, you could get 
all the information you are looking for in a single .txt file. Am I right?
 
Cheers,
 
Daniel



From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 16 août 2010 12:08
To: Bégin, Daniel
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!


For the next release, would it be possible to get:
1. A text file (stored on the ftp) that lists all the quadtree-tiles output. 
Some people might want to write scripts that can do work based on available 
CanVec osm files, but it would help to know how much subdividing occurred. 
Currently, we must download the zip file to determine if 092H04.0.1.2 exists or 
if the tiling stopped at 092H04.0.1.

2. An RSS or Atom feed of the tiles that have been processed. Not as useful as 
(1), but some people might be interested in knowing the latest without 
searching around the ftp. This would be most useful when already processed 
tiles get re-processed, or when tiles get processed in a different order (such 
as 052A06).

Thanks for the great releases!

Adam


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca 
wrote:



Hi all, an update on product conversion.  So far ...
 
- The process have been running for 42 days;
- 11415 files have been processed - an average of 270 files a day;
 
To come this week ...
- 052A06

- The rest of the files
 
 
Miscellaneous ...
 
natural=peak
It was supposed to be there but obviously it is not.  I'll find the 
problem and it will be included in the next release.
 
natural=land
area features are a duplicate of natural=water inner polygon. It will 
be removed for the next release.  Point features will still be there.
 
Canvec Product Description
- Features, geometry and tiling description: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
 

French Canvec wiki pages
I still hope to produce it before the end of the summer!
 
 
Cheers,
 

Daniel

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-16 Thread Adam Dunn
I was intending for the file listing to be sorted alphabetically, while the
rss one would be sorted chronologically. Having a timestamp field in the
file listing could work though.
The advantage to having the RSS/Atom format is that people can plug it into
RSS/Atom/xml readers if they use any.

Adam

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Bégin, Daniel 
daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:

  Bonjour Adam,

 About point 1...
 I'll see what can be done and, if possible, I will produce it for this
 release.

 About point 2...
 If the text file proposed on point 1 have a date and time field, you could
 get all the information you are looking for in a single .txt file. Am I
 right?

 Cheers,

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-16 Thread Michael Barabanov
When should we expect the next release?
Anyone has an idea on how to reconcile the next release with what has been
imported so far?

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Bégin, Daniel 
daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:

   Hi all, an update on product conversion.  So far ...

 - The process have been running for 42 days;
 - 11415 files have been processed - an average of 270 files a day;

 To come this week ...
 - 052A06
  - The rest of the files


 Miscellaneous ...

 natural=peak
 It was supposed to be there but obviously it is not.  I'll find the problem
 and it will be included in the next release.

 natural=land
 area features are a duplicate of natural=water inner polygon. It will be
 removed for the next release.  Point features will still be there.

 Canvec Product Description
  - Features, geometry and tiling description:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec

  French Canvec wiki pages
 I still hope to produce it before the end of the summer!


 Cheers,

 Daniel

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-08-16 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Hi Adam,  
 
I understand the expected usage but It will not be possible on short terms. 
 
However, I will try to create a listing of all .osm files using a time field.  
If possible, it should be updated at each .zip file creation for the next 
release - a new .zip file should triggered an update of the listing for each 
.osm subtitle.
 
Daniel
 




From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 16 août 2010 14:46
To: Bégin, Daniel
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!


I was intending for the file listing to be sorted alphabetically, while the rss 
one would be sorted chronologically. Having a timestamp field in the file 
listing could work though.
The advantage to having the RSS/Atom format is that people can plug it into 
RSS/Atom/xml readers if they use any.

Adam


On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca 
wrote:


Bonjour Adam,
 
About point 1...
I'll see what can be done and, if possible, I will produce it for this 
release.
 
About point 2...
If the text file proposed on point 1 have a date and time field, you 
could get all the information you are looking for in a single .txt file. Am I 
right?
 
Cheers,
 
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[Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-27 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Hi all, an update on product conversion.  So far ...
 
- The process have been running for 22 days;
- 6021 files have been processed - an average of 300 files a day;
 
To come this week ...
- Yukon and Northwest territories
 
To come later ...
The rest of the 13116 Canvec files
 
 
Miscellaneous ...
 
Duplicated vegetation was found on 337 original Canvec.gml files. - see attached
- Original Canvec.gml files have been replaced;
- Osm version will be reprocessed this week;
 
XY coordinates swap was found on 366 original Canvec.gml files. - see attached
- Original Canvec.gml files have been replaced;
- Osm version will be reprocessed this week;
 
Canvec Product Description
- Features, geometry and tiling description: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
 
Tag value set to -1
- Means that the value is not know by the provider (usually the provincial 
government)
 
Cheers,
 
Daniel
 
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[Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-27 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Hi all, an update on product conversion.  So far ...
 
- The process have been running for 22 days;
- 6021 files have been processed - an average of 300 files a day;
 
To come this week ...
- Yukon and Northwest territories
 
To come later ...
The rest of the 13116 Canvec files
 
 
Miscellaneous ...
 
Duplicated vegetation was found on 337 original Canvec.gml files. - see attached
- Original Canvec.gml files have been replaced;
- Osm version will be reprocessed this week;
 
XY coordinates swap was found on 366 original Canvec.gml files. - see attached
- Original Canvec.gml files have been replaced;
- Osm version will be reprocessed this week;
 
Canvec Product Description
- Features, geometry and tiling description: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec
 
Tag value set to -1
- Means that the value is not know by the provider (usually the provincial 
government)
 
Cheers,
 
Daniel
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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-23 Thread Sam Vekemans
and the canvec wiki page has a cool diagram too :)


cheers,
sam

On 7/22/10, Victor Bielawski bielaws...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 07:41, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, anyone out there know what the extra numbers tacked on the end
 of the tile number represent?

 083H11.0.0.3.osm

 083H11 is the tile number, but what is the 0.0.3 portion? I can't seem
 to make any sense as to how they are to be interpreted. They seem to
 start in the upper left corner of the tile, but if I'm on 0.3.0,
 what's the number of the tile to the left?

 0.0.3 would be to the left of 0.3.0 – here's a quick diagram of how
 the tile splitting works:

 +-+-+
 | 1   | 2   |
 | | |
 | | |
 +--+--+-+
 | 0.1  | 0.2  | 3   |
 +--+--+ |
 | 0.0  | 0.3  | |  and so on.
 +-+-+


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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-22 Thread Jim Shaver
Awesome, does this mean we are going to see a more complete map in SK?  I
must apologize as I haven't been paying as much attention to the list of
late.  I  tried to work with some of the data in some months ago in JOSM for
learning purposes with the eventual goal of helping with the import.  I
didn't really get anywhere with it.  I think i managed to create a black
hole in JOSM.  I assume there will still need to be a lot of editing to
connect up the existing data with the new data once the import is done as
well as road name/type corrections?

Sorry I am obviously a bit of a noob still and am only now interested when I
hear the province that I live in mentioned.  Haha

Jim

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Bégin, Daniel 
daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:

  Hi all, an update on product conversion.  So far ...

 - The process have been running for 15 days;
 - 4129 files have been processed;

 To come this week ...
 - MB SK, AB and BC (Northern part of the provinces)

 To come later...
 - The entire country should be covered for septembre.

 Cheers

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-22 Thread Sam Vekemans
hi Jim,
welcome!
what nts tiles # are you in/interested in?, happy to help find it, and
see where i can be working.
im working on the tiles closest to the Trans Canada trail ...
eventually i'll mapit all across the country.
on the canvec wiki page is links you'll need, and people are in the
#osm-ca irc chat and able to help where they can.

cheers,
sam

On 7/21/10, Jim Shaver dcyph...@gmail.com wrote:
 Awesome, does this mean we are going to see a more complete map in SK?  I
 must apologize as I haven't been paying as much attention to the list of
 late.  I  tried to work with some of the data in some months ago in JOSM for
 learning purposes with the eventual goal of helping with the import.  I
 didn't really get anywhere with it.  I think i managed to create a black
 hole in JOSM.  I assume there will still need to be a lot of editing to
 connect up the existing data with the new data once the import is done as
 well as road name/type corrections?

 Sorry I am obviously a bit of a noob still and am only now interested when I
 hear the province that I live in mentioned.  Haha

 Jim

 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Bégin, Daniel 
 daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca wrote:

  Hi all, an update on product conversion.  So far ...

 - The process have been running for 15 days;
 - 4129 files have been processed;

 To come this week ...
 - MB SK, AB and BC (Northern part of the provinces)

 To come later...
 - The entire country should be covered for septembre.

 Cheers

 Daniel


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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-22 Thread James Ewen
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Sam Vekemans
acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:

 what nts tiles # are you in/interested in?

Sam, you mentioned the NTS tile number WMS server the other day...
perhaps a URL for it might be of use.

I've been poking at the NTS tiles around Edmonton, and they aren't
lining up with the NTS tile sheet numbers that I am familiar with.

James
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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-22 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:18 AM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Sam Vekemans
 acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:

 what nts tiles # are you in/interested in?

 Sam, you mentioned the NTS tile number WMS server the other day...
 perhaps a URL for it might be of use.

 I've been poking at the NTS tiles around Edmonton, and they aren't
 lining up with the NTS tile sheet numbers that I am familiar with.


I made a cool wiki page about Canada WMS layers
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toporama_WMS

and this is the JOSM link, just right-click and change resolution when
you have the WMS layer running, you'll see all the tile #s
http://wms.ess-ws.nrcan.gc.ca/wms/indexcouverture_cantopo?LAYERS=background%2Creference%2Ccoverage%2Cgrid%2Cboundaries%2CplacenameVERSION=1.1.0FORMAT=image/pngSERVICE=WMSREQUEST=GetMapSTYLES=EXCEPTIONS=application%2Fvnd.ogc.se_inimageTRANSPARENT=TRUE;

and Edmonton is 083H12
http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/browse.do?produit=cdeddecoupage=50kmap=083H
(looking at the geobase map)

ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub/083/H/
ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub/083/H/083H12.zip

and it would be 083H12.3.3.2.osm  (which is just to the west of
Edmonton (downtown)

ftp://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/pub/083/H/083H11.zip
and 083H11.0.0.1.osm (which looks to be the downtown core) ... it has
the Central Station  the City hall... so i think thats the downtown
area.

Ya... it was a little hard to find.  As there is lots of tiles in the region.
Some of the stuff is out-dated especially in the city. .. as there's
lots of construction. (i think)
So ya.. it'll take time to work in.

I'd recommend starting in the area you know and work outwards.
As others in the region will most probably be starting to help out.

Looking at the data, it looks like it will be a manual copy/paste of
the house numbers/addresses. So starting in 1 corner, getting all the
features needed in and going city-block by city-block.  And uploading
bits at a time.
That way, when someone else wants to help out, you can easily share
where you've left off, and others can continue on.

Feel free jump on the #OSM-Ca irc chat, the more people online, the
better chance someone will be able to help out :)


Cheers,
Sam

 James
 VE6SRV

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-22 Thread Victor Bielawski
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 07:41, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, anyone out there know what the extra numbers tacked on the end
 of the tile number represent?

 083H11.0.0.3.osm

 083H11 is the tile number, but what is the 0.0.3 portion? I can't seem
 to make any sense as to how they are to be interpreted. They seem to
 start in the upper left corner of the tile, but if I'm on 0.3.0,
 what's the number of the tile to the left?

0.0.3 would be to the left of 0.3.0 – here's a quick diagram of how
the tile splitting works:

+-+-+
| 1   | 2   |
| | |
| | |
+--+--+-+
| 0.1  | 0.2  | 3   |
+--+--+ |
| 0.0  | 0.3  | |  and so on.
+-+-+


 James
 VE6SRV
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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-14 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Hi all,  

an update on canvec.osm conversion

Last Monday I wrote:
 To come this week ...
 - MB, SK, AB and BC (southern part of each province)

It should be completed today :-)

Next to come: latitudes 52.0 to 56.0, from east to west.

Cheers,

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org 
[mailto:talk-ca-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Bégin, Daniel
Sent: 12 juillet 2010 11:30
To: James Ewen
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

Ooops! Sorry James - and other westerners (lol),  

I wrote:
 To come this week ...
 - MA, SK, AL and BC southern part

I mean:
 - MB, SK, AB and BC (southern part of each province)

Cheers 

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: James Ewen [mailto:ve6...@gmail.com]
Sent: 12 juillet 2010 10:05
To: Bégin, Daniel
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca 
wrote:

 To come this week ...
 - MA, SK, AL and BC southern part

Look at that... those nasty government types out east are going to convert 
Canvec data for Massachusets and Alabama, leaving out Manitoba and Alberta!

sniff sniff No wonder we always feel left out and unappreciated!

Daniel: a GIS geek that doesn't know his two letter provincial abbreviations? 
For shame! 8)

James
VE6SRV

PS if you had screwed up the two letter abbreviation for British Columbia, we 
would have had to slap you!

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Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!

2010-07-05 Thread Bégin , Daniel
Bonjour Adams,
 
Attempting to estimate how many days until your area gets uploaded?
 
Common!  Very difficult to predict, and too soon to do that...
 
- I can tell you that it is a 24h/7days process.  
- I can tell you, from my experience, that you never know when it is finished 
until it's finished!
 
But, let supposed everything keeps going right, it should be finished in two 
month.
 
The process is ordered using the file name (NTS) first 3 digit in a way that 
files are roughly processed from South to North and East to West.
 
By the way, I mentioned in an earlier email that files can be prioritise - if 
you ask for :-)
 
Regards,
 
Daniel
 




From: Adam Dunn [mailto:dunna...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 5 juillet 2010 15:14
To: Bégin, Daniel
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product - Running!


Will this be running only during office hours, or overnight? I'm attempting to 
estimate how many days until my area gets uploaded :)

Adam


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Bégin, Daniel daniel.be...@rncan-nrcan.gc.ca 
wrote:


Bonjour OSMers!

Canvec.osm product conversion is running since 08:00 this morning 
(Sherbrooke time).

- So far 010xxx, 020xxx, and 030xxx NTS files have been processed - 
including Toronto (030M11);
- We should be able to complete 030xxx and 040xxx today;
- To come 001xxx, 011xxx, 021xxx, and so on;

What is comming on...
- Quebec road network will be updated in the next release;
- Manitoba road network will get addressing in the next release;
- The vegetation should be updated for the entire country next year.

Thanks to all of you that have looked and gave comments on the product. 
We will eventually get a very nice Osm map coverage over Canada.

Cheers,

Daniel

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