Re: [Talk-es] Sobre Radares

2013-01-14 Por tema Alex Schultz
La web de Robser [1] es la más puesta en el tema radares en España. Tiene
bases de datos gratuitas y otras de pago, que son las más actualizadas.

Si no quieres saber nada sobre estas bases y sólo quieres ver un mapa, lo
tienes en la web antigua de Robser [2]

[1] http://www.robser.es/
[2] http://personal.telefonica.terra.es/web/kachoperro/Mapa.htm

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Re: [Talk-es] Sobre Radares

2013-01-14 Por tema Juanjo Pablos

El 14/01/13 10:38, Alex Schultz escribió:
La web de Robser [1] es la más puesta en el tema radares en España. 
Tiene bases de datos gratuitas y otras de pago, que son las más 
actualizadas.
Quizás ellos podían están interesados en que los radares antiguos 
estuvieran disponibles en OSM


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Re: [Talk-es] Sobre Radares

2013-01-14 Por tema Alex Schultz
Hay varias webs con bases de datos gratuitas, como son Puntodeinteres y La
Radio BBS.

Ésta última tiene una base de dato totalmente libre y que se puede
distribuir siempre que se indique la procedencia, creo que nos puede
interesar una importación.

Se podría hablar con ellos.

El 14 de enero de 2013 11:22, Juanjo Pablos jua...@apertus.es escribió:

 El 14/01/13 10:38, Alex Schultz escribió:

 La web de Robser [1] es la más puesta en el tema radares en España. Tiene
 bases de datos gratuitas y otras de pago, que son las más actualizadas.

 Quizás ellos podían están interesados en que los radares antiguos
 estuvieran disponibles en OSM

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[Talk-es] Streetnames of Catastro-wms

2013-01-14 Por tema Jan Tappenbeck

hi !

is it allow to get the streetnames of the spain-wms-catastro overlay for 
osm?


regards Jan :-)

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Re: [Talk-es] Streetnames of Catastro-wms

2013-01-14 Por tema Cruz Enrique Borges
On Monday 14 January 2013 15:48:40 Jan Tappenbeck wrote:
 hi !
 
 is it allow to get the streetnames of the spain-wms-catastro overlay for 
 osm?
 
 regards Jan :-)

Yes they are. But you should be aware that some times they are not very acurate.

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Re: [Talk-es] Streetnames of Catastro-wms

2013-01-14 Por tema Jan Tappenbeck

Am 14.01.2013 15:58, schrieb Cruz Enrique Borges:

On Monday 14 January 2013 15:48:40 Jan Tappenbeck wrote:

hi !

is it allow to get the streetnames of the spain-wms-catastro overlay for
osm?

regards Jan :-)


Yes they are. But you should be aware that some times they are not very acurate.




thanks... but when there is nothing to find or image of controlling 
worst to read.


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[Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema Jan Tappenbeck

Hola !

i tested OSMAND on spain holiday and there are many variantes of 
streetname-parts.


he probado OSMOND en España de vacaciones y hay muchas variantes del 
nombre de la calle-partes.


Avendia
Av.
Av
Avda.
Plaza
Pza.
Calle
C/
Pje

dr.
doctor


in german there are bots to make normalize the name-parts. would the 
spain-community to something like this.

so it was easier for software or other search-functions.
regards Jan :-)

En alemán hay robots para hacer normalizar los nombres-partes. sería el 
España-comunidad para algo como esto.

así que fue más fácil para el software u otras funciones de búsqueda.
se refiere Jan :-)
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Re: [Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema Rafael Avila Coya
Well, in Spain you would have to split the bot in several parts, as
there are different areas with different languages. For example, one bot
would have to stick to Galicia, another to Euskadi  Navarra (maybe
differences here again), others to Catalunya, Valencia  Illes Balears,
and so on.

I don't have any idea on how to set a bot, anyway.

Regards,

Rafael Ávila Coya.

On 14/01/13 16:59, Jan Tappenbeck wrote:
 Hola !
 
 i tested OSMAND on spain holiday and there are many variantes of
 streetname-parts.
 
 he probado OSMOND en España de vacaciones y hay muchas variantes del
 nombre de la calle-partes.
 
 Avendia
 Av.
 Av
 Avda.
 Plaza
 Pza.
 Calle
 C/
 Pje
 
 dr.
 doctor
 
 
 in german there are bots to make normalize the name-parts. would the
 spain-community to something like this.
 so it was easier for software or other search-functions.
 regards Jan :-)
 
 En alemán hay robots para hacer normalizar los nombres-partes. sería el
 España-comunidad para algo como esto.
 así que fue más fácil para el software u otras funciones de búsqueda.
 se refiere Jan :-)
 
 
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Re: [Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema José Luis Domingo López
 he probado OSMOND en España de vacaciones y hay muchas variantes del
 nombre de la calle-partes.
 
 Avendia
 Av.
 Av
 Avda.
 Plaza
 Pza.
 Calle
 C/
 Pje
 
 dr.
 doctor
 
Interesting and a simple thing to do, it seems. First thing is, in my
opinion, in OSM we should always use the full street denomination, without
using any abbreviations (most of the times those abbreviations are used in
the real world is because of the lack of space, something that is not a
problem in computer based data storage).

To me, using anything but the full street name denomination is simply a bad
practice, and should be avoided. Should rendering software believe the
type of way is too lengthy, they can choose to replace the whole text
with the official abbreviations. When searching for addresses, typing the
type of way can only bring too many irrelevant matches and slow down the
whole operation.

There are, however, places where the same name can be given to a variety of
ways (calle, avenida, pasaje, plaza, etc.). But even in those cases a
search for the name will only return a handful of matches.

In any case, as mentioned, to me using anything but the full text string
denominator for a way is just a poor practice.

A bot that replaces those strings would be much appreciated, but doing that
manually shouldn't be that painful, if using some end user tools (i.e. JOSM
and filters to apply some tag changes in batches).

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Re: [Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema Carlos Dávila

El 14/01/13 18:13, José Luis Domingo López escribió:

he probado OSMOND en España de vacaciones y hay muchas variantes del
nombre de la calle-partes.

Avendia
Av.
Av
Avda.
Plaza
Pza.
Calle
C/
Pje

dr.
doctor

 


A bot that replaces those strings would be much appreciated, but doing that
manually shouldn't be that painful, if using some end user tools (i.e. JOSM
and filters to apply some tag changes in batches).

   
I regularly extract all OSM elements containing C/, C. and Avda. 
and a few months ago I replaced most of them using JOSM. I only left 
those in East part of Spain, as I didn't know if the correct replacement 
would be calle or carrer, avenida or avinguda. I can send 
current file to anyone interested in have a look at it and continue the 
work.


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Re: [Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema Sergio García Villalonga
I've never using JOSM yet (I'm currently installing it), but I can try to
do some work on fixing the terminology in catalan. Anyway, doing a bot
should not be very hard, and it even may be funny.

Probably sent from an Android phone
...or a free/libre web browser running on a GNU/Linux operating system

Be free


2013/1/14 Carlos Dávila cdavi...@orangecorreo.es

 El 14/01/13 18:13, José Luis Domingo López escribió:

 he probado OSMOND en España de vacaciones y hay muchas variantes del
 nombre de la calle-partes.

 Avendia
 Av.
 Av
 Avda.
 Plaza
 Pza.
 Calle
 C/
 Pje
 
 dr.
 doctor




 A bot that replaces those strings would be much appreciated, but doing
 that
 manually shouldn't be that painful, if using some end user tools (i.e.
 JOSM
 and filters to apply some tag changes in batches).



 I regularly extract all OSM elements containing C/, C. and Avda. and
 a few months ago I replaced most of them using JOSM. I only left those in
 East part of Spain, as I didn't know if the correct replacement would be
 calle or carrer, avenida or avinguda. I can send current file to
 anyone interested in have a look at it and continue the work.


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Re: [Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema José Luis Domingo López
 I regularly extract all OSM elements containing C/, C. and
 Avda. and a few months ago I replaced most of them using JOSM. I
 only left those in East part of Spain, as I didn't know if the
 correct replacement would be calle or carrer, avenida or
 avinguda. I can send current file to anyone interested in have a
 look at it and continue the work.
 
Calle will be correct in Spanish, but Carrer will be the right one to
use in Catalan, or Rúa in Galician. OSM can store the street name in
several different tags, one for each language, so there is no need to
choose one language over the others.

What I don't know and I would have to check is if there is the need for a
primary name tag (name), or it is perfectly fine and correct to have one
or more language-specific name tags such as name:es and name:ca for a
given street, and there is no real need for a name tag is there is any
amount of name:xx present for the item.

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Re: [Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema Rafael Avila Coya
In Galicia, I use to edit the name tag (galician), name:gl (galician)
and name:xx for other languages. If I write only one (that is what I do
most of the times), I just write the galician one in the name tag.

The question is: if you don't put the name tag, what language does the
renderer (mapnik or whatever) choose for the rendering? I think you need
to put the name tag whatsoever.

Cheers,

Rafael Ávila Coya.

On 14/01/13 20:44, José Luis Domingo López wrote:
 I regularly extract all OSM elements containing C/, C. and
 Avda. and a few months ago I replaced most of them using JOSM. I
 only left those in East part of Spain, as I didn't know if the
 correct replacement would be calle or carrer, avenida or
 avinguda. I can send current file to anyone interested in have a
 look at it and continue the work.

 Calle will be correct in Spanish, but Carrer will be the right one to
 use in Catalan, or Rúa in Galician. OSM can store the street name in
 several different tags, one for each language, so there is no need to
 choose one language over the others.
 
 What I don't know and I would have to check is if there is the need for a
 primary name tag (name), or it is perfectly fine and correct to have one
 or more language-specific name tags such as name:es and name:ca for a
 given street, and there is no real need for a name tag is there is any
 amount of name:xx present for the item.
 
 Cheers.
 

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Re: [Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema Pepe Casado
No es por nada pero si esto es un grupo de discusión en español pediría,
por favor, que los comentarios fueran en esa lengua. Gracias
El 14/01/2013 21:21, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com escribió:

 In Galicia, I use to edit the name tag (galician), name:gl (galician)
 and name:xx for other languages. If I write only one (that is what I do
 most of the times), I just write the galician one in the name tag.

 The question is: if you don't put the name tag, what language does the
 renderer (mapnik or whatever) choose for the rendering? I think you need
 to put the name tag whatsoever.

 Cheers,

 Rafael Ávila Coya.

 On 14/01/13 20:44, José Luis Domingo López wrote:
  I regularly extract all OSM elements containing C/, C. and
  Avda. and a few months ago I replaced most of them using JOSM. I
  only left those in East part of Spain, as I didn't know if the
  correct replacement would be calle or carrer, avenida or
  avinguda. I can send current file to anyone interested in have a
  look at it and continue the work.
 
  Calle will be correct in Spanish, but Carrer will be the right one to
  use in Catalan, or Rúa in Galician. OSM can store the street name in
  several different tags, one for each language, so there is no need to
  choose one language over the others.
 
  What I don't know and I would have to check is if there is the need for a
  primary name tag (name), or it is perfectly fine and correct to have
 one
  or more language-specific name tags such as name:es and name:ca
 for a
  given street, and there is no real need for a name tag is there is any
  amount of name:xx present for the item.
 
  Cheers.
 

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Re: [Talk-es] normilize streetnames

2013-01-14 Por tema David Marín Carreño
Hola, Pepe.

Hay que tener en cuenta que, además de esta ser la lista de discusión
en español de
OSM, también es el punto de contacto de la comunidad internacional con la
comunidad de España...

Un poquito de paciencia O:-)


2013/1/15 Pepe Casado pcvalve...@gmail.com:
 No es por nada pero si esto es un grupo de discusión en español pediría, por
 favor, que los comentarios fueran en esa lengua. Gracias

 El 14/01/2013 21:21, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com escribió:

 In Galicia, I use to edit the name tag (galician), name:gl (galician)
 and name:xx for other languages. If I write only one (that is what I do
 most of the times), I just write the galician one in the name tag.

 The question is: if you don't put the name tag, what language does the
 renderer (mapnik or whatever) choose for the rendering? I think you need
 to put the name tag whatsoever.

 Cheers,

 Rafael Ávila Coya.

 On 14/01/13 20:44, José Luis Domingo López wrote:
  I regularly extract all OSM elements containing C/, C. and
  Avda. and a few months ago I replaced most of them using JOSM. I
  only left those in East part of Spain, as I didn't know if the
  correct replacement would be calle or carrer, avenida or
  avinguda. I can send current file to anyone interested in have a
  look at it and continue the work.
 
  Calle will be correct in Spanish, but Carrer will be the right one
  to
  use in Catalan, or Rúa in Galician. OSM can store the street name in
  several different tags, one for each language, so there is no need to
  choose one language over the others.
 
  What I don't know and I would have to check is if there is the need for
  a
  primary name tag (name), or it is perfectly fine and correct to have
  one
  or more language-specific name tags such as name:es and name:ca
  for a
  given street, and there is no real need for a name tag is there is any
  amount of name:xx present for the item.
 
  Cheers.
 

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