Re: [Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

[Jonay Santana]

Hello again, Sylvaine. I would copy and paste this thread to that user,
that way he should understand that his effort would be more useful in other
areas. Luckily he or she would understand. And then revert.

Best luck with that... Cheers.
El 14/04/2014 17:19, "sly (sylvain letuffe)"  escribió:

> Hola,
>
> Thanks you all for your answers.
>
> That only leave the questions :
> - should we act and revert that user's edits about adding a name tag ?
> or
> - should we don't care and let it as is ?
>
>
> On samedi 12 avril 2014, Carlos Dávila wrote:
> > I'm also of the same opinion.
> >
> > El 12/04/14 19:49, Jonay Santana escribió:
> > > I entirely agree. There's no need to give a name to a boundary, it is
> > > just a relation between the entities involved. It would be redundant
> > > for me.
> > >
> > > But as always, everyone has its opinion...
> > >
> > > El 12/04/2014 03:31, "Xuacu"  > >
> > > > escribió:
> > > Hi Sylvain, all
> > >
> > > My best guess is that it isn't necessary to give a name to the
> common
> > > border. It should be a member of two relations (España and France)
> > > which have at least one name tag in it, so renderers will take care
> > > of displaying such name on the correct side of the border. Adding
> > > such "Espagne--France" tag only adds clutter and/or confuses
> > > renderers. Just my 2¢ :)
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > > --
> > > Xuacu
> > >
> > > 2014-04-10 23:00 GMT+02:00 sly (sylvain letuffe)
> > >
> > > mailto:lis...@letuffe.org>>:
> > > > Holla Jonay,
> > > >
> > > > Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 22:32:00, Jonay Santana a écrit :
> > > >> Hello, Sylvain. I'm not very sure about what the problem is. I
> > >
> > > mean, what
> > >
> > > >> are you both disagreeing at?
> > > >
> > > > He adds on boudary ways :
> > > > name:es = espana -- france
> > > > name:en = spain -- france
> > > > name:fr = espagne -- france
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > While other think we should either :
> > > > - add no name at all on boundary ways
> > > > - or at least don't use -- as separator
> > > >
> > > >> And don't worry about your spanish, it would be great to read
> > >
> > > you in
> > >
> > > >> spanish besides an English version.
> > > >
> > > > So sorry, but it was one year, 20 years ago without practice at
> > >
> > > all ;-(
> > >
> > > > google translate would be by far better than me ;-)
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Sletuffe
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Re: [Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

[sly (sylvain letuffe)]

Hola,

Thanks you all for your answers.

That only leave the questions :
- should we act and revert that user's edits about adding a name tag ?
or 
- should we don't care and let it as is ?


On samedi 12 avril 2014, Carlos Dávila wrote:
> I'm also of the same opinion.
> 
> El 12/04/14 19:49, Jonay Santana escribió:
> > I entirely agree. There's no need to give a name to a boundary, it is
> > just a relation between the entities involved. It would be redundant
> > for me.
> > 
> > But as always, everyone has its opinion...
> > 
> > El 12/04/2014 03:31, "Xuacu"  > 
> > > escribió:
> > Hi Sylvain, all
> > 
> > My best guess is that it isn't necessary to give a name to the common
> > border. It should be a member of two relations (España and France)
> > which have at least one name tag in it, so renderers will take care
> > of displaying such name on the correct side of the border. Adding
> > such "Espagne--France" tag only adds clutter and/or confuses
> > renderers. Just my 2¢ :)
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > --
> > Xuacu
> > 
> > 2014-04-10 23:00 GMT+02:00 sly (sylvain letuffe)
> > 
> > mailto:lis...@letuffe.org>>:
> > > Holla Jonay,
> > > 
> > > Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 22:32:00, Jonay Santana a écrit :
> > >> Hello, Sylvain. I'm not very sure about what the problem is. I
> > 
> > mean, what
> > 
> > >> are you both disagreeing at?
> > > 
> > > He adds on boudary ways :
> > > name:es = espana -- france
> > > name:en = spain -- france
> > > name:fr = espagne -- france
> > > etc.
> > > 
> > > While other think we should either :
> > > - add no name at all on boundary ways
> > > - or at least don't use -- as separator
> > > 
> > >> And don't worry about your spanish, it would be great to read
> > 
> > you in
> > 
> > >> spanish besides an English version.
> > > 
> > > So sorry, but it was one year, 20 years ago without practice at
> > 
> > all ;-(
> > 
> > > google translate would be by far better than me ;-)
> > > 
> > > --
> > > sly (sylvain letuffe)
> > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Sletuffe
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Re: [Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

[Carlos Dávila]

I'm also of the same opinion.

El 12/04/14 19:49, Jonay Santana escribió:


I entirely agree. There's no need to give a name to a boundary, it is 
just a relation between the entities involved. It would be redundant 
for me.


But as always, everyone has its opinion...

El 12/04/2014 03:31, "Xuacu" > escribió:


Hi Sylvain, all

My best guess is that it isn't necessary to give a name to the common
border. It should be a member of two relations (España and France)
which have at least one name tag in it, so renderers will take care of
displaying such name on the correct side of the border. Adding such
"Espagne--France" tag only adds clutter and/or confuses renderers.
Just my 2¢ :)

Kind regards
--
Xuacu

2014-04-10 23:00 GMT+02:00 sly (sylvain letuffe)
mailto:lis...@letuffe.org>>:
> Holla Jonay,
>
> Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 22:32:00, Jonay Santana a écrit :
>> Hello, Sylvain. I'm not very sure about what the problem is. I
mean, what
>> are you both disagreeing at?
>
> He adds on boudary ways :
> name:es = espana -- france
> name:en = spain -- france
> name:fr = espagne -- france
> etc.
>
> While other think we should either :
> - add no name at all on boundary ways
> - or at least don't use -- as separator
>
>
>> And don't worry about your spanish, it would be great to read
you in
>> spanish besides an English version.
>
> So sorry, but it was one year, 20 years ago without practice at
all ;-(
> google translate would be by far better than me ;-)
>
> --
> sly (sylvain letuffe)
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Sletuffe
>




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Re: [Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

[Jonay Santana]

I entirely agree. There's no need to give a name to a boundary, it is just
a relation between the entities involved. It would be redundant for me.

But as always, everyone has its opinion...
El 12/04/2014 03:31, "Xuacu"  escribió:

> Hi Sylvain, all
>
> My best guess is that it isn't necessary to give a name to the common
> border. It should be a member of two relations (España and France)
> which have at least one name tag in it, so renderers will take care of
> displaying such name on the correct side of the border. Adding such
> "Espagne--France" tag only adds clutter and/or confuses renderers.
> Just my 2¢ :)
>
> Kind regards
> --
> Xuacu
>
> 2014-04-10 23:00 GMT+02:00 sly (sylvain letuffe) :
> > Holla Jonay,
> >
> > Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 22:32:00, Jonay Santana a écrit :
> >> Hello, Sylvain. I'm not very sure about what the problem is. I mean,
> what
> >> are you both disagreeing at?
> >
> > He adds on boudary ways :
> > name:es = espana -- france
> > name:en = spain -- france
> > name:fr = espagne -- france
> > etc.
> >
> > While other think we should either :
> > - add no name at all on boundary ways
> > - or at least don't use -- as separator
> >
> >
> >> And don't worry about your spanish, it would be great to read you in
> >> spanish besides an English version.
> >
> > So sorry, but it was one year, 20 years ago without practice at all ;-(
> > google translate would be by far better than me ;-)
> >
> > --
> > sly (sylvain letuffe)
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Sletuffe
> >
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Re: [Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

[Xuacu]

Hi Sylvain, all

My best guess is that it isn't necessary to give a name to the common
border. It should be a member of two relations (España and France)
which have at least one name tag in it, so renderers will take care of
displaying such name on the correct side of the border. Adding such
"Espagne--France" tag only adds clutter and/or confuses renderers.
Just my 2¢ :)

Kind regards
--
Xuacu

2014-04-10 23:00 GMT+02:00 sly (sylvain letuffe) :
> Holla Jonay,
>
> Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 22:32:00, Jonay Santana a écrit :
>> Hello, Sylvain. I'm not very sure about what the problem is. I mean, what
>> are you both disagreeing at?
>
> He adds on boudary ways :
> name:es = espana -- france
> name:en = spain -- france
> name:fr = espagne -- france
> etc.
>
> While other think we should either :
> - add no name at all on boundary ways
> - or at least don't use -- as separator
>
>
>> And don't worry about your spanish, it would be great to read you in
>> spanish besides an English version.
>
> So sorry, but it was one year, 20 years ago without practice at all ;-(
> google translate would be by far better than me ;-)
>
> --
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Re: [Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

[sly (sylvain letuffe)]

Holla Jonay,

Le jeudi 10 avril 2014 22:32:00, Jonay Santana a écrit :
> Hello, Sylvain. I'm not very sure about what the problem is. I mean, what
> are you both disagreeing at?

He adds on boudary ways :
name:es = espana -- france
name:en = spain -- france
name:fr = espagne -- france
etc.

While other think we should either :
- add no name at all on boundary ways
- or at least don't use -- as separator


> And don't worry about your spanish, it would be great to read you in
> spanish besides an English version.

So sorry, but it was one year, 20 years ago without practice at all ;-(
google translate would be by far better than me ;-)

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Re: [Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

[Jonay Santana]

Hello, Sylvain. I'm not very sure about what the problem is. I mean, what
are you both disagreeing at?

And don't worry about your spanish, it would be great to read you in
spanish besides an English version.
El 10/04/2014 20:57, "sly (sylvain letuffe)"  escribió:

> Hellow fellow spanish neighbours !
>
> (First, I'm sorry to write this email in english on a spanish list, but if
> I
> try to remember how to speak spanish, that would only be a masacre !)
>
> I'm from France and I am currently having an argument with another french
> guy
> about how should national (and to some extents, internal) boundaries
> should be
> tagged and I'd like your opinion of things and how do you usually do.
>
> One of serveral other examples is this :
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/41362407/history
>
> This way is one of several ways forming the spanish/french boundary. Has
> you
> can see in the history, we have an edit war about tags that should or
> shouldn't be there, and if we should keep them, what syntax should be used.
>
> According to the spanish community (or, the majority of its member in case
> you
> are not all agreeing about it ;-) )
>
> what are your prefered practices about names (and internationnal names) on
> boudaries between france and spain (or between spain and portugal or spain
> and
> england) ?
> about the name beeing there, about the separator caracters between two
> countries's names ? about the use of it ?
>
> The idea behing my request is, should we continue reverting edits of user
> verdy_p or should we just let it be ?
>
>
>
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[Talk-es] national way boundary names and -- caracters

[sly (sylvain letuffe)]

Hellow fellow spanish neighbours !

(First, I'm sorry to write this email in english on a spanish list, but if I 
try to remember how to speak spanish, that would only be a masacre !)

I'm from France and I am currently having an argument with another french guy 
about how should national (and to some extents, internal) boundaries should be 
tagged and I'd like your opinion of things and how do you usually do.

One of serveral other examples is this :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/41362407/history

This way is one of several ways forming the spanish/french boundary. Has you 
can see in the history, we have an edit war about tags that should or 
shouldn't be there, and if we should keep them, what syntax should be used.

According to the spanish community (or, the majority of its member in case you 
are not all agreeing about it ;-) )

what are your prefered practices about names (and internationnal names) on 
boudaries between france and spain (or between spain and portugal or spain and 
england) ?
about the name beeing there, about the separator caracters between two 
countries's names ? about the use of it ?

The idea behing my request is, should we continue reverting edits of user 
verdy_p or should we just let it be ?



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