[Talk-gb-midanglia] Minibus scheme

2009-07-16 Thread David Earl
I've had notification (via Cambridge Cycling Campaign) about a scheme 
whereby Cambridgeshire County Council will put community groups (which I 
think could very reasonably include OpenStreetMap in the Interest, 
hobbies and arts groups category) in touch with minibus operators 
(particularly other community groups who have them but don't use them 
all the time, and other county council owned ones) so that relatively 
cheap community transport can be arranged.

http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/around/communitytransport/Cambridgeshire+Minibus+Brokerage+Scheme.htm

It strikes me this might be useful for mapping parties on occasion - 
e.g. a Sudbury one, where public transport is very thin on the ground 
and transporting bikes by bus is not terribly practical.

I'll keep in touch with them. It may be easier to deal with this is we 
are formally constituted as part of one of the upcoming local OSMF 
chapters (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters)

David

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Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Hill
I asked the Boundary Committee for boundary data and, as you might 
guess, they say they don't hold any boundary data of their own.  All of 
their data is held by OS, so as usual we have the Crown Copyright 
argument.  They also say that all their published information is subject 
to Crown Copyright and that they are unable to help me further.  At 
least they were very quick to reply.

Since this is a Freedom of Information Act request, and they have 
refused to supply me the requested information I'll ask the Office of 
the Information Commissioner for a ruling.  Not expecting much, but you 
never know.


Cheers, Chris

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Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread David Earl
Chris Hill wrote:
 Since this is a Freedom of Information Act request, and they have 
 refused to supply me the requested information I'll ask the Office of 
 the Information Commissioner for a ruling.  Not expecting much, but you 
 never know.

Even if they did or do supply it, doesn't mean you could do anything 
useful with it - copyright still applies to data provided under FoI.

David


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Re: [Talk-GB] Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Hill
David Earl wrote:
 Chris Hill wrote:
 Since this is a Freedom of Information Act request, and they have 
 refused to supply me the requested information I'll ask the Office of 
 the Information Commissioner for a ruling.  Not expecting much, but 
 you never know.

 Even if they did or do supply it, doesn't mean you could do anything 
 useful with it - copyright still applies to data provided under FoI.

 David


I understand that copyright still applies, but part of the reason I'm 
doing this is to apply pressure to release this boundary information.  
There was a big push when OS asked for comments to release boundary 
information, partly for democratic reasons and partly because it is 
damned hard to gather accurately by any other means.  I think extra 
nudges of such bodies might just help.  Feel free to join in. :-)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread Peter Miller

On 16 Jul 2009, at 11:31, Chris Hill wrote:

 David Earl wrote:
 Chris Hill wrote:
 Since this is a Freedom of Information Act request, and they have  
 refused to supply me the requested information I'll ask the Office  
 of the Information Commissioner for a ruling.  Not expecting much,  
 but you never know.

 Even if they did or do supply it, doesn't mean you could do  
 anything useful with it - copyright still applies to data provided  
 under FoI.

 David


 I understand that copyright still applies, but part of the reason  
 I'm doing this is to apply pressure to release this boundary  
 information.  There was a big push when OS asked for comments to  
 release boundary information, partly for democratic reasons and  
 partly because it is damned hard to gather accurately by any other  
 means.  I think extra nudges of such bodies might just help.  Feel  
 free to join in. :-)

I suggest that documenting our efforts to collect data on the UK  
Boundaries page (be they successful or not) will help put pressure on  
the release of the official data that we need.

We did the same thing with the the Gaza project. It didn't immediately  
result in the necessary data being released, but has probably helped  
stir up a discussion. It is worth looking at how the wiki page was  
used to discuss data sources and requests - note that there was no  
talk list dedicated to the area so the wiki was the main medium of  
communication for this project.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Palestine_Gaza



Regards,


Peter



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Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website

2009-07-16 Thread Chris Fleming
On 15/07/09 19:36, Nicholas Barnes wrote:
 Tom Hughes wrote:

 Page splits will be entirely dependent on the size of your browser
 window
  
 Unless the 'print' link generated a PDF, of course!

Except this is overkill in most cases when you just want a quick print 
out. As a user if I click on a print link I don't expect to have a PDF 
downloaded which I then need to open in another bit of software before I 
can print.

We could link to a page with a fixed width map (I think this is what 
google maps do) rather than the variable width, but this fails as the 
width would need to depend on what paper is being used and the 
orientation of the page...

Cheers
Chris

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Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website

2009-07-16 Thread Nicholas Barnes

Chris Fleming wrote:
 Except this is overkill in most cases when you just want a quick print 
 out.

Yes. It was said with tongue planted firmly in cheek... Is there a 
smiley for that?

:-J   perhaps?

Nick.


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[Talk-GB] Dartford mapping party 25th/26th July 2009

2009-07-16 Thread TimSC
Hi all,

This is a reminder that the Dartford mapping party is happening soon 
25th/26th July 2009. (Saturday  Sunday).

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dartford_Mapping_Party

This would go another step further to getting London polished off. 
Hopefully see you there...

TimSC


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