Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas
I tend to use the combination of service/driveway, for roads that lead to residential buildings or farm houses, even when they have other farm buildings around them. Tracks i tend to use for roads that go just to barns, farm out buildings, or to fields. Jason (Unieagle) Connected by Motorola Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi This may be a matter of style but it seems that both Highway=Service and Highway=Track are used for the access highways to farms and also residential properties in rural areas. I must admit I was using High=Track based on whether it was paved (tarmac) or not. i.e. tarmac would suggest Highway=Service but looking closer at the wiki it appears that Highway=Service isn't dependent on this. It would also appear that there has been an import (source tag) that has tagged Highway=Service in some areas for Farm access. Is there a correct answer for this or is it a matter of mapping style? I am leaning towards using Highway=Service for these and keeping Highway=Track for tracks that link from fields to farms or roads to fields (i.e. not from roads to farmyards or residential properties). It would seem to suggest this in the wiki on Track. The wiki would also suggest the use of Service=Driveway when using Highway=Service. Has anyone come to a conclusion on this? Many Thanks Dudley ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas
Dudley, On 11 Mar 2013 21:27, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: Is there a correct answer for this or is it a matter of mapping style? I am leaning towards using Highway=Service for these and keeping Highway=Track for tracks that link from fields to farms or roads to fields (i.e. not from roads to farmyards or residential properties... Modern farms are more like industrial estates with access designed for 40t trucks and massive farm machinery so in those cases I favour highway=service for the main farm access road even if it has a central divide like a track might have. Highway=track is better for typical bridleways, green lanes, etc that only a tractor or 4x4 could use. Kevin ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas
Kevin Peat wrote: On 11 Mar 2013 21:27, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com mailto:dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: Is there a correct answer for this or is it a matter of mapping style? I am leaning towards using Highway=Service for these and keeping Highway=Track for tracks that link from fields to farms or roads to fields (i.e. not from roads to farmyards or residential properties... Modern farms are more like industrial estates with access designed for 40t trucks and massive farm machinery so in those cases I favour highway=service for the main farm access road even if it has a central divide like a track might have. Highway=track is better for typical bridleways, green lanes, etc that only a tractor or 4x4 could use. I tend to follow the same rule. As soon as there is a diversity of premises on the way then it tends to get 'service'. A single residence would not normally have it's drive shown, but where it may have public access to walk down, 'track' seems less formal? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas
This may be a matter of style but it seems that both Highway=Service and Highway=Track are used for the access highways to farms and also residential properties in rural areas. I must admit I was using High=Track based on whether it was paved (tarmac) or not. i.e. tarmac would suggest Highway=Service but looking closer at the wiki it appears that Highway=Service isn't dependent on this. It would also appear that there has been an import (source tag) that has tagged Highway=Service in some areas for Farm access. I would generally always use highway=surface for these, plus surface=unpaved if necessary. The exception is where it appears to be a public road rather than private drive. Diagnostic features for this would include Give Way markers on the road, the T no through road sign, or a road name. In these cases I would use highway=unclassified. Ncik ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas
Oops - highway=service, not surface... -Nick Whitelegg/FT/Solent wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Nick Whitelegg/FT/Solent Date: 12/03/2013 11:46AM Subject: Re: Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas This may be a matter of style but it seems that both Highway=Service and Highway=Track are used for the access highways to farms and also residential properties in rural areas. I must admit I was using High=Track based on whether it was paved (tarmac) or not. i.e. tarmac would suggest Highway=Service but looking closer at the wiki it appears that Highway=Service isn't dependent on this. It would also appear that there has been an import (source tag) that has tagged Highway=Service in some areas for Farm access. I would generally always use highway=surface for these, plus surface=unpaved if necessary. The exception is where it appears to be a public road rather than private drive. Diagnostic features for this would include Give Way markers on the road, the T no through road sign, or a road name. In these cases I would use highway=unclassified. Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas
Many thanks for the comments. I will now stick to Highway=Service for direct access from roads to Farmyards. I will also use this for residential properties set back from the road as there are quite a few old farms/farm buildings being converted into residential use. I will also try and remember to use Access=Private when there is no public right of way designation. I doubt that there will every be rendering for UK public rights of way on the main OSM map but it does render Highways that are tagged as private differently and it is helpful to know when a path goes through a Farmyard etc if the Highway connecting the Farmyard is a public right of way or not. Regards Dudley From: nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:47:18 + Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas Oops - highway=service, not surface... -Nick Whitelegg/FT/Solent wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Nick Whitelegg/FT/Solent Date: 12/03/2013 11:46AM Subject: Re: Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas This may be a matter of style but it seems that both Highway=Service and Highway=Track are used for the access highways to farms and also residential properties in rural areas. I must admit I was using High=Track based on whether it was paved (tarmac) or not. i.e. tarmac would suggest Highway=Service but looking closer at the wiki it appears that Highway=Service isn't dependent on this. It would also appear that there has been an import (source tag) that has tagged Highway=Service in some areas for Farm access. I would generally always use highway=surface for these, plus surface=unpaved if necessary. The exception is where it appears to be a public road rather than private drive. Diagnostic features for this would include Give Way markers on the road, the T no through road sign, or a road name. In these cases I would use highway=unclassified. Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Gaps in Barriers
Hi I could also do with some comments on the use of barrier=entrance or entrance=yes when there is a gap in a barrier (i.e hedge or wall) i.e. no gate or stile. I appreciate you could just draw two ways with a gap but sometimes the gap is quite small and a node would seem more suitable. The former (barrier=entrance) seems more sensible in the context and is described in the context of a barrier but the latter is more widely used. The wiki however very much describes (entrance=yes) in relation to an urban context i.e. entrances to buildings etc. I am wondering whether there is a need to distinguish between these types of entrance or whether to stick to the more widely used entrance=yes? Many Thanks Dudley ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode data
Aidan I've had a look at your list and would say it's way under - you only have 3 B27 codes and I've completed addressing this whole postcode area - I've not got every one complete but I'm sure there's far more than the 3 you're showing, including the one for my own house which is missing! Similarly for B72 which I know is also complete with every address mapped Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode data
Brian, The list was of invalid postcodes. Hopefully everything you entered was a valid postcode (it seems that way given that only 3 invalid B27 postcodes appear in the list). Rob On 12 March 2013 22:37, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Aidan I've had a look at your list and would say it's way under - you only have 3 B27 codes and I've completed addressing this whole postcode area - I've not got every one complete but I'm sure there's far more than the 3 you're showing, including the one for my own house which is missing! Similarly for B72 which I know is also complete with every address mapped Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
