Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[Philip Barnes]

Thank you Andy,  have commented, waiting to see if they respond.

Phil (trigpoint) 

 

On Sunday, 5 January 2020, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 05/01/2020 21:33, Philip Barnes wrote:
> > I have just come across an armchair edit using Facebook AI data.
> >
> > They do seem to have failed to check that detections are accurate, or 
> > lack experience to identify common Midlands farmland features. They 
> > have mapped several hedges as tracks.
> >
> >
> The usual suggestions apply, I think - politely explain via a changeset 
> discussion comment what the problems are (e.g. that there are false 
> positives and false negatives, and issues with offsets).  If that 
> resolves things, great - if not raise it with the DWG.
> 
> I'm not convinced that false positives per se are a problem provided 
> that iD guides them through the process of agreeing that "yes, that 
> really does look like a sensible feature based on the context".  If that 
> isn't happening (and that's certainly a problem to some extent elsewhere 
> in iD with "automatic brand tagging", and with some Maproulette tasks 
> that appear to be just "community-washing" mechanical edits) then again, 
> raise it with the DWG.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Andy
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[Andy Townsend]

On 05/01/2020 21:33, Philip Barnes wrote:

I have just come across an armchair edit using Facebook AI data.

They do seem to have failed to check that detections are accurate, or 
lack experience to identify common Midlands farmland features. They 
have mapped several hedges as tracks.



The usual suggestions apply, I think - politely explain via a changeset 
discussion comment what the problems are (e.g. that there are false 
positives and false negatives, and issues with offsets).  If that 
resolves things, great - if not raise it with the DWG.


I'm not convinced that false positives per se are a problem provided 
that iD guides them through the process of agreeing that "yes, that 
really does look like a sensible feature based on the context".  If that 
isn't happening (and that's certainly a problem to some extent elsewhere 
in iD with "automatic brand tagging", and with some Maproulette tasks 
that appear to be just "community-washing" mechanical edits) then again, 
raise it with the DWG.


Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[Philip Barnes]

I have just come across an armchair edit using Facebook AI data. 
They do seem to have failed to check that detections are accurate, or
lack experience to identify common Midlands farmland features. They
have mapped several hedges as tracks.
Something I think we need to watch out for, this tech is not ready for
real use.
Phil (trigpoint)

On Sun, 2020-01-05 at 15:25 +, SK53 wrote:
> I was wondering if it was worth creating a wiki page to provide more
> of these examples. Clearly the value of the data and types of false
> positives vary across the country.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:12, Russ Garrett  wrote:
> > Given the obvious flaws in the data, I'm actually quite surprised
> > how
> > 
> > good it is at spotting unmapped service roads in London - including
> > 
> > those which pass beneath buildings. Most of them probably deserve a
> > 
> > survey though.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Russ
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson <
> > rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Thanks Jerry.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I'd also subsequently discovered the data dump but had not yet
> > got around to looking at it. What are you using here to view and
> > work with the data? Is QGIS and 6GB RAM sufficient?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I would be interested in Warwickshire if you can extract that.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > And yes, we probably are not expecting much for the UK given how
> > well we already have most roads mapped. It's a shame it only shows
> > missing roads as I suspect it has better geometry of some rural
> > roads in poorly mapped areas than us - I still find jagged roads
> > with source=npe.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Nevertheless, the AI stuff is an interesting one to keep an eye
> > on. If improvements can be made and additional datasets
> > incorporated, it could become a significant aid in the future. For
> > example I wonder if it could be good at building detections when
> > combined with other data such as LiDAR height data. There is also
> > the prospect of using AI to help find solar panels.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Best regards,
> > 
> > > Rob
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 14:07, SK53  wrote:
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Perhaps more useful is that one can download the UK data as a
> > geopackage from 
> > https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries
> > . It's 147Mb zipped in a tar which unpacked is around 400Mb.
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> I've had a very quick look and notice quite a few concentrations
> > of features which are obviously tractor lines in farmland. See this
> > area around Colston Bassett 
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Colston_basset_fb_rapid.png
> > .  Apparently such false positives can be marked as such in the
> > editor which ought to improve detections next time round. My
> > suspicion is that things which are actually roads are mainly
> > driveways to outlying houses & farms or farm tracks. Using OS
> > OpenRoads is more likely to help find significant missing adopted
> > roads.
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Jerry
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> I can potentially provide extracts for individual LAs if people
> > want them, send me an email. I personally found it easier to look
> > at the data as a whole rather than scanning around in the editor.
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > >> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 22:09, Rob Nickerson <
> > rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> Hi all,
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> I just spotted that Facebook have pushed an update to their map
> > with AI project:
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> "For our final release of 2019, we have released 84 new
> > countries for our AI road data with new coverage in the remainder
> > of Europe, Asia, and Oceania! AI roads are now available nearly
> > globally."
> > 
> > >>> Source: 
> > https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/blob/master/WHATSNEW.md
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> For those who don't know what MapWithAI is check out 
> > https://mapwith.ai
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> And to try it out in their RapID version of the iD editor: 
> > https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Bing_features=boundaries=18.60/53.40625/-2.13801
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> Just roads at the moment and not that easy to find a suggestion
> > that is worth adding (at least near me where roads are well mapped)
> > but this does demonstrate what is possible. Let us know if you have
> > a good or bad experience with this.
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> Would be great to see this extended to buildings but we may
> > have to wait for Microsoft for that.
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> P.S. A happy new year to all!
> > 
> > >>>
> > 
> > >>> Thank you,
> > 
> > >>> Rob
> > 
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mark Renn, sculptor

[Brian Prangle]

Thanks for this Andy. Any reason why he didn't justify an article whilst he
was alive? I'll try to fill in some of the gaps. BTW is Ben Mabbett a
relative?He's doing lots of mapping in the W Mids

Regards

Brian

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 5:41 PM Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> Happy New Year to you all.
>
> Those of you who appreciate public art might be interested in a
> Wikipedia article I've just written, on Birmingham sculptor Mark Renn,
> who sadly died last month:
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Renn
>
> Some of his works don't seem to be mapped, and some of those in the
> table on the article need coordinates and/ or photos.
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[SK53]

I was wondering if it was worth creating a wiki page to provide more of
these examples. Clearly the value of the data and types of false positives
vary across the country.

Jerry

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:12, Russ Garrett  wrote:

> Given the obvious flaws in the data, I'm actually quite surprised how
> good it is at spotting unmapped service roads in London - including
> those which pass beneath buildings. Most of them probably deserve a
> survey though.
>
> Russ
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jerry.
> >
> > I'd also subsequently discovered the data dump but had not yet got
> around to looking at it. What are you using here to view and work with the
> data? Is QGIS and 6GB RAM sufficient?
> >
> > I would be interested in Warwickshire if you can extract that.
> >
> > And yes, we probably are not expecting much for the UK given how well we
> already have most roads mapped. It's a shame it only shows missing roads as
> I suspect it has better geometry of some rural roads in poorly mapped areas
> than us - I still find jagged roads with source=npe.
> >
> > Nevertheless, the AI stuff is an interesting one to keep an eye on. If
> improvements can be made and additional datasets incorporated, it could
> become a significant aid in the future. For example I wonder if it could be
> good at building detections when combined with other data such as LiDAR
> height data. There is also the prospect of using AI to help find solar
> panels.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 14:07, SK53  wrote:
> >>
> >> Perhaps more useful is that one can download the UK data as a
> geopackage from
> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries.
> It's 147Mb zipped in a tar which unpacked is around 400Mb.
> >>
> >> I've had a very quick look and notice quite a few concentrations of
> features which are obviously tractor lines in farmland. See this area
> around Colston Bassett
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Colston_basset_fb_rapid.png.
> Apparently such false positives can be marked as such in the editor which
> ought to improve detections next time round. My suspicion is that things
> which are actually roads are mainly driveways to outlying houses & farms or
> farm tracks. Using OS OpenRoads is more likely to help find significant
> missing adopted roads.
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >> I can potentially provide extracts for individual LAs if people want
> them, send me an email. I personally found it easier to look at the data as
> a whole rather than scanning around in the editor.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 22:09, Rob Nickerson 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I just spotted that Facebook have pushed an update to their map with
> AI project:
> >>>
> >>> "For our final release of 2019, we have released 84 new countries for
> our AI road data with new coverage in the remainder of Europe, Asia, and
> Oceania! AI roads are now available nearly globally."
> >>> Source:
> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/blob/master/WHATSNEW.md
> >>>
> >>> For those who don't know what MapWithAI is check out
> https://mapwith.ai
> >>>
> >>> And to try it out in their RapID version of the iD editor:
> https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Bing_features=boundaries=18.60/53.40625/-2.13801
> >>>
> >>> Just roads at the moment and not that easy to find a suggestion that
> is worth adding (at least near me where roads are well mapped) but this
> does demonstrate what is possible. Let us know if you have a good or bad
> experience with this.
> >>>
> >>> Would be great to see this extended to buildings but we may have to
> wait for Microsoft for that.
> >>>
> >>> P.S. A happy new year to all!
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Rob
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Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[SK53]

I'm using QGiS 3.4 on a laptop with 8 Gb, but I'm sure much less will work
fine. Will send data separately.

I'm not sure Facebook have corrected for offsets in imagery so whereas the
topology may be better positioning may be worse. One of the simple quick
wins from using ML on imagery could be better alignment of multiple imagery
layers (provided one can extract the same types of features from them &
ones which are algorithmically easy to align - there's a huge literature on
this, colleagues were working on

matching stereo SPOT images in the '80s).

Using OS Open Roads (which looks to be slightly generalised so some slight
curves are straight lines) and the buffer clipping technique (e.g. as I
used for Northern Ireland townlands) is probably the best way to realign
NPE roads. I currently don't have the disk space to do this easily,
otherwise I would have done).

Jerry

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:03, Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> Thanks Jerry.
>
> I'd also subsequently discovered the data dump but had not yet got around
> to looking at it. What are you using here to view and work with the data?
> Is QGIS and 6GB RAM sufficient?
>
> I would be interested in Warwickshire if you can extract that.
>
> And yes, we probably are not expecting much for the UK given how well we
> already have most roads mapped. It's a shame it only shows missing roads as
> I suspect it has better geometry of some rural roads in poorly mapped areas
> than us - I still find jagged roads with source=npe.
>
> Nevertheless, the AI stuff is an interesting one to keep an eye on. If
> improvements can be made and additional datasets incorporated, it could
> become a significant aid in the future. For example I wonder if it could be
> good at building detections when combined with other data such as LiDAR
> height data. There is also the prospect of using AI to help find solar
> panels.
>
> Best regards,
> *Rob*
>
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 14:07, SK53  wrote:
>
>> Perhaps more useful is that one can download the UK data as a geopackage
>> from
>> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries.
>> It's 147Mb zipped in a tar which unpacked is around 400Mb.
>>
>> I've had a very quick look and notice quite a few concentrations of
>> features which are obviously tractor lines in farmland. See this area
>> around Colston Bassett
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Colston_basset_fb_rapid.png.
>> Apparently such false positives can be marked as such in the editor which
>> ought to improve detections next time round. My suspicion is that things
>> which are actually roads are mainly driveways to outlying houses & farms or
>> farm tracks. Using OS OpenRoads is more likely to help find significant
>> missing adopted roads.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> I can potentially provide extracts for individual LAs if people want
>> them, send me an email. I personally found it easier to look at the data as
>> a whole rather than scanning around in the editor.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 22:09, Rob Nickerson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just spotted that Facebook have pushed an update to their map with AI
>>> project:
>>>
>>> "For our final release of 2019, we have released 84 new countries for
>>> our AI road data with new coverage in the remainder of Europe, Asia, and
>>> Oceania! AI roads are now available nearly globally."
>>> Source:
>>> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/blob/master/WHATSNEW.md
>>>
>>> For those who don't know what MapWithAI is check out https://mapwith.ai
>>>
>>> And to try it out in their RapID version of the iD editor:
>>> https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Bing_features=boundaries=18.60/53.40625/-2.13801
>>>
>>> Just roads at the moment and not that easy to find a suggestion that is
>>> worth adding (at least near me where roads are well mapped) but this does
>>> demonstrate what is possible. Let us know if you have a good or bad
>>> experience with this.
>>>
>>> Would be great to see this extended to buildings but we may have to wait
>>> for Microsoft for that.
>>>
>>> P.S. A happy new year to all!
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> *Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[Philip Barnes]

On Sun, 2020-01-05 at 15:02 +, Rob Nickerson wrote:
> Thanks Jerry.
> 
> I'd also subsequently discovered the data dump but had not yet got
> around to looking at it. What are you using here to view and work
> with the data? Is QGIS and 6GB RAM sufficient? 
> 
> I would be interested in Warwickshire if you can extract that.
> 
> And yes, we probably are not expecting much for the UK given how well
> we already have most roads mapped. It's a shame it only shows missing
> roads as I suspect it has better geometry of some rural roads in
> poorly mapped areas than us - I still find jagged roads with
> source=npe.
> 
> Nevertheless, the AI stuff is an interesting one to keep an eye on.
> If improvements can be made and additional datasets incorporated, it
> could become a significant aid in the future. For example I wonder if
> it could be good at building detections when combined with other data
> such as LiDAR height data. There is also the prospect of using AI to
> help find solar panels.
> 
As Jerry says there is a lot of detection of tramlines in arable fields
but I am also seeing detection of already mapped features such as
runways and railways which I would expect to be filtered out.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[Russ Garrett]

Given the obvious flaws in the data, I'm actually quite surprised how
good it is at spotting unmapped service roads in London - including
those which pass beneath buildings. Most of them probably deserve a
survey though.

Russ

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
>
> Thanks Jerry.
>
> I'd also subsequently discovered the data dump but had not yet got around to 
> looking at it. What are you using here to view and work with the data? Is 
> QGIS and 6GB RAM sufficient?
>
> I would be interested in Warwickshire if you can extract that.
>
> And yes, we probably are not expecting much for the UK given how well we 
> already have most roads mapped. It's a shame it only shows missing roads as I 
> suspect it has better geometry of some rural roads in poorly mapped areas 
> than us - I still find jagged roads with source=npe.
>
> Nevertheless, the AI stuff is an interesting one to keep an eye on. If 
> improvements can be made and additional datasets incorporated, it could 
> become a significant aid in the future. For example I wonder if it could be 
> good at building detections when combined with other data such as LiDAR 
> height data. There is also the prospect of using AI to help find solar panels.
>
> Best regards,
> Rob
>
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 14:07, SK53  wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps more useful is that one can download the UK data as a geopackage 
>> from 
>> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries.
>>  It's 147Mb zipped in a tar which unpacked is around 400Mb.
>>
>> I've had a very quick look and notice quite a few concentrations of features 
>> which are obviously tractor lines in farmland. See this area around Colston 
>> Bassett 
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Colston_basset_fb_rapid.png.  
>> Apparently such false positives can be marked as such in the editor which 
>> ought to improve detections next time round. My suspicion is that things 
>> which are actually roads are mainly driveways to outlying houses & farms or 
>> farm tracks. Using OS OpenRoads is more likely to help find significant 
>> missing adopted roads.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> I can potentially provide extracts for individual LAs if people want them, 
>> send me an email. I personally found it easier to look at the data as a 
>> whole rather than scanning around in the editor.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 22:09, Rob Nickerson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just spotted that Facebook have pushed an update to their map with AI 
>>> project:
>>>
>>> "For our final release of 2019, we have released 84 new countries for our 
>>> AI road data with new coverage in the remainder of Europe, Asia, and 
>>> Oceania! AI roads are now available nearly globally."
>>> Source: 
>>> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/blob/master/WHATSNEW.md
>>>
>>> For those who don't know what MapWithAI is check out https://mapwith.ai
>>>
>>> And to try it out in their RapID version of the iD editor: 
>>> https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Bing_features=boundaries=18.60/53.40625/-2.13801
>>>
>>> Just roads at the moment and not that easy to find a suggestion that is 
>>> worth adding (at least near me where roads are well mapped) but this does 
>>> demonstrate what is possible. Let us know if you have a good or bad 
>>> experience with this.
>>>
>>> Would be great to see this extended to buildings but we may have to wait 
>>> for Microsoft for that.
>>>
>>> P.S. A happy new year to all!
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Rob
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Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[Rob Nickerson]

Thanks Jerry.

I'd also subsequently discovered the data dump but had not yet got around
to looking at it. What are you using here to view and work with the data?
Is QGIS and 6GB RAM sufficient?

I would be interested in Warwickshire if you can extract that.

And yes, we probably are not expecting much for the UK given how well we
already have most roads mapped. It's a shame it only shows missing roads as
I suspect it has better geometry of some rural roads in poorly mapped areas
than us - I still find jagged roads with source=npe.

Nevertheless, the AI stuff is an interesting one to keep an eye on. If
improvements can be made and additional datasets incorporated, it could
become a significant aid in the future. For example I wonder if it could be
good at building detections when combined with other data such as LiDAR
height data. There is also the prospect of using AI to help find solar
panels.

Best regards,
*Rob*


On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 14:07, SK53  wrote:

> Perhaps more useful is that one can download the UK data as a geopackage
> from
> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries.
> It's 147Mb zipped in a tar which unpacked is around 400Mb.
>
> I've had a very quick look and notice quite a few concentrations of
> features which are obviously tractor lines in farmland. See this area
> around Colston Bassett
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Colston_basset_fb_rapid.png.
> Apparently such false positives can be marked as such in the editor which
> ought to improve detections next time round. My suspicion is that things
> which are actually roads are mainly driveways to outlying houses & farms or
> farm tracks. Using OS OpenRoads is more likely to help find significant
> missing adopted roads.
>
> Jerry
>
> I can potentially provide extracts for individual LAs if people want them,
> send me an email. I personally found it easier to look at the data as a
> whole rather than scanning around in the editor.
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 22:09, Rob Nickerson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just spotted that Facebook have pushed an update to their map with AI
>> project:
>>
>> "For our final release of 2019, we have released 84 new countries for our
>> AI road data with new coverage in the remainder of Europe, Asia, and
>> Oceania! AI roads are now available nearly globally."
>> Source:
>> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/blob/master/WHATSNEW.md
>>
>> For those who don't know what MapWithAI is check out https://mapwith.ai
>>
>> And to try it out in their RapID version of the iD editor:
>> https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Bing_features=boundaries=18.60/53.40625/-2.13801
>>
>> Just roads at the moment and not that easy to find a suggestion that is
>> worth adding (at least near me where roads are well mapped) but this does
>> demonstrate what is possible. Let us know if you have a good or bad
>> experience with this.
>>
>> Would be great to see this extended to buildings but we may have to wait
>> for Microsoft for that.
>>
>> P.S. A happy new year to all!
>>
>> Thank you,
>> *Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[SK53]

Perhaps more useful is that one can download the UK data as a geopackage
from
https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries.
It's 147Mb zipped in a tar which unpacked is around 400Mb.

I've had a very quick look and notice quite a few concentrations of
features which are obviously tractor lines in farmland. See this area
around Colston Bassett
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Colston_basset_fb_rapid.png.
Apparently such false positives can be marked as such in the editor which
ought to improve detections next time round. My suspicion is that things
which are actually roads are mainly driveways to outlying houses & farms or
farm tracks. Using OS OpenRoads is more likely to help find significant
missing adopted roads.

Jerry

I can potentially provide extracts for individual LAs if people want them,
send me an email. I personally found it easier to look at the data as a
whole rather than scanning around in the editor.


On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 22:09, Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just spotted that Facebook have pushed an update to their map with AI
> project:
>
> "For our final release of 2019, we have released 84 new countries for our
> AI road data with new coverage in the remainder of Europe, Asia, and
> Oceania! AI roads are now available nearly globally."
> Source:
> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/blob/master/WHATSNEW.md
>
> For those who don't know what MapWithAI is check out https://mapwith.ai
>
> And to try it out in their RapID version of the iD editor:
> https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Bing_features=boundaries=18.60/53.40625/-2.13801
>
> Just roads at the moment and not that easy to find a suggestion that is
> worth adding (at least near me where roads are well mapped) but this does
> demonstrate what is possible. Let us know if you have a good or bad
> experience with this.
>
> Would be great to see this extended to buildings but we may have to wait
> for Microsoft for that.
>
> P.S. A happy new year to all!
>
> Thank you,
> *Rob*
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