Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database
Here in Yorkshire, people are very possessive (if that's the right word!) about the old county boundary (i.e. pre 1974). Many people are very aware of the problem (as they see it) that certain parts of Yorkshire have been transferred to (or 'stolen by') Lancashire, or other counties. They still think of the 3 Ridings as current in some cases. And Liverpool and Manchester are still parts of Lancashire according to some! Colin On 08/08/18 10:55, Mark Goodge wrote: On 07/08/2018 20:48, Dave F wrote: Hi User smb1001 is currently adding county boundary relations with boundary=historic through out the UK: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ASf (May take a while to run) Changeset discussion: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61410203 From the historic wiki page "historic objects should not be mapped as it is outside of scope of OSM" Frankly I don't buy his comments. The problem is where to stop? Do we have ever iteration of every boundary change since time immemorial? Then what about buildings, roads, or coastline changes etc? The database would become unmanageable for editors (it already is if zoomed out too far). I agree that "historic" boundaries don't belong in OSM. They have value for historic researchers, but, as you say, that's not what OSM is about. It's also flat out incorrect to say that historic boundaries are "immutable". Although it is true that there were massive changes in the 1970s and a lot more since then, the idea that the historic (or "traditional") counties were stable throughout history is just myth-making. A lot of what people think of as the historic county boundaries are, in fact, a Victorian creation. And even they didn't leave them alone! I do think, though, that there's a case for including the current ceremonial and preserved county boundaries. These have a defined and relevant meaning here and now, even if it's a less common one than administrative boundaries such as counties, districts and parishes. Maybe the people adding historic boundaries to OSM could be nudged in that direction instead. Mark ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Updates to 'Survey Me!' tool
Oh and another where the fhrs listing has the wrong postcode! Colin Sent from TypeApp On 23 Jul 2018, 21:55, at 21:55, Colin Spiller wrote: >I know of a local business which has closed but is still listed in >gregrs tool. What can I do about it? >Colin > >Sent from TypeApp > >On 23 Jul 2018, 21:38, at 21:38, Andrew Hain > wrote: >>Where I live businesses that are still open sometimes drop out of >FHRS. >>Your mileage may very. >> >>-- >>Andrew >> >> >>From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) >>Sent: 23 July 2018 10:52 >>To: talk-gb >>Subject: [Talk-GB] Updates to 'Survey Me!' tool >> >>A couple of minor updates to my 'Survey Me!' tool at >>http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/survey/ to tell you about: >> >>First there is a new category of FHRS (Food Hygiene Rating System) >>reference mismatches. This includes items where the number in the >>fhrs:id=* tag doesn't match a current number in the official FHRS >>database. The data comes from Greg's comparison tool at >>https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/ and wlil hopefully be >>updated daily. A small number of these mismatches may be typos in the >>original data entry, but the rest will either be because a business >>has closed (survey probably required) or because a business has >>changed in some way causing a new number to be issued (could possibly >>be fixed by reference to the FHRS comparison tool). >> >> >> >> >>___ >>Talk-GB mailing list >>Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Updates to 'Survey Me!' tool
I know of a local business which has closed but is still listed in gregrs tool. What can I do about it? Colin Sent from TypeApp On 23 Jul 2018, 21:38, at 21:38, Andrew Hain wrote: >Where I live businesses that are still open sometimes drop out of FHRS. >Your mileage may very. > >-- >Andrew > > >From: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) >Sent: 23 July 2018 10:52 >To: talk-gb >Subject: [Talk-GB] Updates to 'Survey Me!' tool > >A couple of minor updates to my 'Survey Me!' tool at >http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/survey/ to tell you about: > >First there is a new category of FHRS (Food Hygiene Rating System) >reference mismatches. This includes items where the number in the >fhrs:id=* tag doesn't match a current number in the official FHRS >database. The data comes from Greg's comparison tool at >https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs/ and wlil hopefully be >updated daily. A small number of these mismatches may be typos in the >original data entry, but the rest will either be because a business >has closed (survey probably required) or because a business has >changed in some way causing a new number to be issued (could possibly >be fixed by reference to the FHRS comparison tool). > > > > >___ >Talk-GB mailing list >Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] House of Fraser
The BBC are reporting 14 Mattressman stores closing too See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-44482882 for the list of stores Colin On 07/06/18 20:53, Andrew Hain wrote: House of Fraser today announced today that half their branches are to close, listing which ones. Although shops should not yet be removed does it make sense with this announcement (or others like it in the future) to put notes or fixmes in the 31 locations involved? -- Andrew ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Hull road renamed after rugby league star - BBC News
I see malcolmh has already renamed it. Now I know who Clive Sullivan Way is named after. I always wondered. Colin Sent from TypeApp On 27 Jan 2018, 09:36, at 09:36, Andy Mabbett wrote: >Road renamed in Hull: > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-42819078 > >Does anyone have the coordinates, or the ID of the way, please? > >-- >Andy Mabbett >@pigsonthewing >http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > > > >___ >Talk-GB mailing list >Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.
I have similar near here. Keep the address at least! Remove the fhrs:I'd seems sensible. Colin Sent from TypeApp On 20 Jan 2018, 22:42, at 22:42, Andrew Black wrote: >If a pub has been taken over by a chain (and changed name), should one >delete FHRS info. >My gut feeling is yes but. ... > > > > >___ >Talk-GB mailing list >Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations
I've been adding postcodes in the Bradford BD area using Robert & gregrs useful tools. I've just noticed that the Shell station at the Rooley Lane / Rooley Avenue junction BD5 8JR is now reported as having an incorrect postal unit (the final two letters of the postcode). This postcode appears widely on the internet for this site, but the RM postcode finder thinks it should be Rooley Avenue, BD6 1DA. The node Fuel #5210358416 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5210358416> has these tags: Tags addr:postcode <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:postcode?uselang=en-GB> BD5 8JR amenity <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity?uselang=en-GB> fuel <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=fuel?uselang=en-GB> brand <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brand?uselang=en-GB>Shell opening_hours <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening%20hours?uselang=en-GB> 24/7 phone <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:phone?uselang=en-GB> +44 1274 306188 ref:navads_shellNVDS353-12038573 but no street or city. The whole thing seems odd to me. Colin On 20/12/17 12:32, Ilya Zverev wrote: Hi folks, I have just uploaded the fuel stations: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/54785385 Thank you everyone who participated. I noticed there has been many "fixme" tags filled during the validation. You can see them all using Overpass API: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/tUW Ilya ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OpenRailwayMap
The link in the original email works fine to take you to a tweet, which links nicely to the map. Work OK for me with Android and Chrome, both on my phone and my tablet. Colin On 20/12/17 10:37, Phillip Barnett wrote: Actually, it doesn’t work on a phone Browser. (iOS, Safari) Sent from my iPhone On 20 Dec 2017, at 10:11, Paul Berry <mailto:pmberry2...@gmail.com>> wrote: David, Happily, nothing sinister. It's a url forwarder/shortener used by Twitter. Will work on a phone browser, but may be blocked by desktop browsers. Regards, /Paul/ On 19 December 2017 at 12:14, David Woolley mailto:for...@david-woolley.me.uk>> wrote: On 19/12/17 10:23, Steven Abrams (Brook Street) wrote: https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/942751174922555393 <https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/942751174922555393> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FMrTimDunn%2Fstatus%2F942751174922555393&data=02%7C01%7Ca- <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FMrTimDunn%2Fstatus%2F942751174922555393&data=02%7C01%7Ca->.. The URL in the HTML doesn't match the displayed one at all. At best I imagine it only works if you are subscribed to various services. At worst, Firefox is right, and it is a scam. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb> ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] NatWest / RBS Branch closures
Lloyds Banking Group will close some bank branches (listed at https://www.lloydsbank.com/contact-us/branch-closures.asp ) and Yorkshire Building Society will close more (listed at http://www.ybs.co.uk/changes/index.html ). It's a fairly general problem. Recording the list & annotating the OSM features sounds a good idea. Colin On 01/12/17 11:35, SK53 wrote: RBS are planning another massive round of branch closures (a full list here <http://metro.co.uk/2017/12/01/list-of-natwest-and-rbs-branches-closing-across-the-uk-7123401/>). I was wondering what the best approach might be to track these: * Notes on all relevant branches. We've done this in the past for smaller chains (Netto, American Apparel) and the notes do get closed eventually when someone re-surveys an area. Easier to spot now through phone apps like Vespucci & OSMAnd * Fixmes on the branches. As above, but a little less visible * A wiki page listing branches & their equivalent OSM Id * A umap instance Any thoughts? Jerry ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Tagging Schools with fhrs:id
I've recently been catching up with some fhrs:id tags. I've found several (most?) of the local schools have entries in the Food Standards agency lists. I must have missed something, because I'm now confused. Most of the school information is tagged to the school boundary. However, I would expect the fhrs:id tag to be on the relevant building within the boundary, but the comparison tool - thank you gregrs - expects both the postcode and the fhrs:id on the same object. So is that the standard - both on the boundary, and is it documented in the wiki anywhere? I thought I had better check before I did too many updates! Thanks in advance Colin -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Large swaths of "heath" on Dartmoor
Sounds sensible to me but I'm no expert. We have lots of moor here in Yorkshire Colin Sent from TypeApp On 25 Sep 2017, 12:31, at 12:31, ael wrote: >On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 10:10:07AM +, SK53 wrote: >> than anything they reflect that OSM as a project lacks good tags for >many >> of these boreo-temperate upland features, and whilst that is true >there > >I have been changing some "heath" areas of Dartmoor to "moor". But I >notice that the wiki claims that this is deprecated. > >Since most of these are large areas which really cover a variety of >vegetation, I can't see that any of the "established" tags are really >appropriate. "Moor" is exactly right. > >If forced to use the documentated tags, I would go for >natural = grassland;wetland as the best approximation despite the >fact that not everything is wet nor is grass. > >Of course, it only makes sense for coarse-grained approximate mapping, >and more localised accurate tags are the ideal. > >Should "moor" or something similar be restored and supported by >renderers? > >ael > >___ >Talk-GB mailing list >Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Museums in Berwick-upon-Tweed
Oops! I meant to send this to the lis. Colin Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [Talk-GB] Museums in Berwick-upon-Tweed Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 11:44:52 +0100 From: Colin Spiller Reply-To: co...@thespillers.org.uk To: Andrew Hain There are website which will convert for you e.g. http://www.nearby.org.uk/ It puts these 2 museums on Palace Green, Berwick on Tweed Colin On 28/05/17 11:28, Andrew Hain wrote: What is the easiest way to locate national grid references on the map? We could then put notes on the map if there is no-one to check. -- Andrew *From:* Frederik Ramm *Sent:* 28 May 2017 10:24:19 *To:* OSM GB mailing list *Subject:* [Talk-GB] Museums in Berwick-upon-Tweed Hi, someone from Berwick-upon-Tweed has written to the OSMF board, mainly to ask if it is ok to use our map in a local history book, but along the side pointed out two issues with the map: "The two Museum symbols at NU 00023 52563 and NT 99988 52538 are no longer relevant as the museums closed several years ago and the area is now private housing." I'll leave it to you to figure out what these coordinates mean and which museums may need to be checked ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Food Hygiene ratings
Good morning and Happy Christmas. I've just seen this link to my local paper via Twitter: *Telegraph and Argus* @*Bradford_TandA* <https://twitter.com/Bradford_TandA><https://twitter.com/Bradford_TandA/status/813934300085129216> Hundreds of food premises in Bradford have gone years without hygiene inspections http://dlvr.it/MzRZK0 <https://t.co/53NBoFijU7> I guess it just means the decision not to include current ratings was a good idea. And there are still lots of premises to be mapped! Colin -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Crediting OSM (was Birdtrack using OSM maps)
Interesting wiki entry. Very technical - at least for me. I have several webpages with OSM maps inserted via iframe. For example http://www.ourladyandstjoseph.org.uk/SacredHeart.htm When I followed the link on the wiki to the example , I just got "page not found". Can anyone show me a good example please? Thanks Colin On 25/04/16 22:16, ael wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 08:39:31PM +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: I noticed recently that it was using OpenStreetMap data; at my instigation, it now also prominently credits OSM. I noticed that my local library was using OSM but with no accreditation. When I looked (as I recall, on the wiki) for a link to send them, I had to dig deep and just found this: https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/48/can-i-use-these-maps-on-my-website I seem to remember that the request to credit OSM used to be prominent, but that no longer seems to be the case, so I could understand how it might be overlooked. I sent an polite email on 24th Feb asking them to add the credit, but have had no reply. So perhaps the request for credit needs to be more prominent? Meanwhile, perhaps others might also complain? The offending site is https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/cms/content/witney-library As you can see there, their email address is witney.libr...@oxfordshire.gov.uk . ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: now covers UK and Ireland
Isle of Man conspicuous by its absence Colin Edward Betts wrote: >I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata again. It now >covers all of the UK and Ireland. > >I used map data from http://download.geofabrik.de/europe/british-isles.html > >The results are grouped by region or county as well as by category. > >http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/gb-ie/ > >I'm going to figure out how to upload these matches to OSM. I've registered an >account with the username Wikidata to use for the uploads. > >There will be one changeset per county + category for any category with 10 or >more matches in that county. Categories with less than 10 matches in the >county will be combined into a single changeset. > >OSM objects with an existing wikidata tag won't be changed. >-- >Edward. > >___ >Talk-GB mailing list >Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Another curious school #OSMschools
Evening all Robert's excellent school comparison shows up w164792334 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/164792334> Menwith Hill Elementary and High School in 'my' BD postcode area as not being in the Edubase list. Well that's true - it isn't. it was an American facility located at RAF Menwith Hill <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Menwith_Hill> (really a USA base!). As it happens, it closed last summer so I can add 'disused' and clear it up - see http://www.stripes.com/news/europe/menwith-hill-lajes-schools-close-for-good-1.352059 It was originally added by Yorvik Prestigitator <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Yorvik%20Prestigitator> nearly 2 years ago and it has a wikipedia page of it's own at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menwith_Hill_Elementary/High_School I just wonder what I could have put for the Official ref! Colin in West Yorkshire -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: 27,232 matches found in England
Thank you. Are there no entries at all for West Yorkshire? Colin Edward Betts wrote: >Colin Spiller wrote: >> This looks good but doesn't seem to work well for Yorkshire and the Humber. >> West Yorkshire doesn't seem to be available at all, and when I select >> Schools (or anything else) i just get >> Internal Server Error >> >Sorry, there was a bug, it is now fixed. > >https://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/england/region/Yorkshire_and_the_Humber/Schools > >-- >Edward. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OSM with Wikidata: 27,232 matches found in England
Edward This looks good but doesn't seem to work well for Yorkshire and the Humber. West Yorkshire doesn't seem to be available at all, and when I select Schools (or anything else) i just get Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the application. Is there a problem or have I (as usual) done something wrong? Thanks Colin in West Yorkshire On 24/01/16 11:46, Edward Betts wrote: I've extended my search for matches between OSM and Wikidata. It now covers all of England instead of just the West Midlands. The results are grouped by region or county as well as by category. http://edwardbetts.com/osm-wikidata/england/ It should be possible to use this a basis for uploading. The results can be grouped by category and county when uploaded. -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project : Schools - Multiple Schools on one site
Here in West Yorkshire, I have a newly-rebuilt Beckfoot School, sharing the site and facilities with Hazelbeck Special School. As far as I know, there isn't anything dividing the two. Robert has these entries for them (thanks Robert - great job!): 139975 BD16 1EE <http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.841255&mlon=-1.829101&zoom=16> Beckfoot School 139977 BD16 1EE <http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=53.841255&mlon=-1.829101&zoom=16> Hazelbeck Special School They do have their own websites: http://www.beckfoot.org/ and http://www.hazelbeck.org/ ! Also nearby there are what used to be two separate single-sex schools which are now combined as a mixed school. Two sites about a mile apart. Any recommendations as to how I should map these two extremes gratefully received! Thanks Colin, West Yorks On 17/01/16 13:14, Lester Caine wrote: On 17/01/16 12:40, Dave F. wrote: Although I'm uncertain of a perfect solution as both the entrance and recreation ground appears to be shared in Ed's example, I find there's usually a defining boundary around schools that are adjacent to each other. Especially infant schools where they don't want the little ones wandering off. Looking at the site using a website that shall not be mentioned, it appears to use a fence & the school building itself as the barrier. On ground conformation will, of course, be required. Situations where a school has a secure play area which is used by Nursary and first school pupils at different times is not unusual, especially now the 'Nursery' provision for younger children is being added around the country. Ideally for us this would just extend the range of an existing school, but there seems to be financial advantages in creating a separate 'school'? Yes closer inspection may produce different results, but to get the key data in now would be nice, and it can be refined later? As mapped ATM both the fhrs:id & ref:edubase tags aren't associated with amenity=school which is not ideal for filtering data. Proper quoting would have included this comment in with mine about whether amenity=school was appropriate on the outer boundary when it is difficult to separate multiple edubase refs inside the area. Just as there are a number of ways off adding 'school' to an item, there may be a case for 'landuse=school' where one is then going to add 'amenity=school' to the internal elements? Be that simple nodes for each occupant of a high rise building, or the primary building of each where several other buildings and play areas are shared during the day. For filtering data I think that 'amenity=school' makes sense when linked with all the primary data for each school, which ever country is looked at, so some means of identifying the landuse for a multiple school area is the logical follow through. I'm very tempted at the moment to simply remove the Evesham boundary 'amenity=school' tag and replace it with on on each primary building which will at least allow the current verification to cross them off the list. What ever way things are progressed, something needs to be changed. ( And in relation to mass adding wikidata tags to the CURRENT school references, this is premature since in many cases the wrong area is tagged ) -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes
? Postcodes are GREAT for routing. It's far quicker to type the postcode as destination than a long address. If it takes me to the correct street I can usually find the building by myself, if I haven't entered the house number. Postcodes every time. Colin On 25/03/15 21:22, Pmailkeey . wrote: On 25 March 2015 at 18:25, Dan S <mailto:danstowell+...@gmail.com>> wrote: 2015-03-25 18:20 GMT+00:00 Pmailkeey . mailto:pmailk...@googlemail.com>>: > > > On 25 March 2015 at 17:55, Steve Doerr mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Surely the Royal Mail copyright precludes us from using these datasets? >> >> Steve >> >> On 25/03/2015 17:43, Mick Orridge wrote: >>> >>> On the subject of postcodes, I have generated approximate regions from >>> the ONS postcode data for postcode areas, districts and sectors which can be >>> downloaded as shp files here:- >> > > What do we want them for anyway? OSM seems to collect junk. Post box ref > numbers and collection times are prime examples. That's a bit rude. Postcodes are very valuable for routing - people outside OSM use them very heavily for that. Postcodes are not even a minority concern. Dan ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb What use are post box ref numbers ? Who is really bothered about collection times ? The nearest post box is useful info. I can't imagine anyone using postcodes for routing. Postcodes, I guess are only of use to Royal Mail for the purpose of organising delivery rounds and abbreviating locations inaccurately. -- Mike. @millomweb <https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction> - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * * * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property & pets* * * T&Cs <https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail> ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Tag for benches
I understand the benches in Leeds City Centre all had additional armrests fitted in the middle to prevent anyone lying on them to sleep overnight. Same comfort_rating ? On 10/04/14 17:57, Andy Mabbett wrote: comfort_rating=0 ? "Benches installed in the centre of a seaside town have been deliberately designed to be uncomfortable, council bosses have admitted." http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/10/dover-benches-designed-uncomfortable-council-bosses -- Colin Spiller co...@thespillers.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
