Re: [Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)
Tim Dobson wrote: Perhaps the people who are nearish the top of OSM, and I feel sheepish that I don't really know who I'm talking about, might like to put out a pressrelease or press statement about how OSM is helping put *real* maps back on the internet and allow cool mashups etc. I'm OSMF press person until the weekend. From what I can tell Mary (who, incidentally, taught me everything I know about cartography :) ) actually mentioned OSM in her address: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7586789.stm Projects such as Open Street Map, through which thousands of Britons have contributed their local knowledge to map pubs, landmarks and even post boxes online, are the first step in the fight back against 'corporate blankwash', she added. Which is smashing, but also suggests to me that most of the newspapers have chosen not to mention us... this time. cheers Richard trying not to get too annoyed with the glib enthusiasm of Adrian Miles on the BBC interview ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)
Richard Fairhurst wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7586789.stm We're also in the Daily Mail (eek)[1]: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1050408/Is-satnav-turning-dunces-map-reading.html cheers Richard [1] for our overseas readers, this is possibly the most reactionary newspaper in Britain. It almost certainly doesn't like you :( ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)
Steve wrote: I was under the impression that the local authorities generally used an OS base map, so their own data may well be derived from the OS data. A few years ago now (5 or 6) the bungalow next door was knocked down and two put on the plot in it's place. After they were built, an OS surveyor knocked on our door to ask permission to survey the new properties relative to ours (to give him the known fixed points on their existing data), which he surveyed entering the information straight onto a touch screen device and could presumably have been uploaded directly to the OS database if it had some sort of mobile data connection. I'm not sure this project currently supports that kind of accuracy, though perhaps if accurate GPS devices (there was something on TV about a harvester which drives itself to within 1 inch accuracy), and/or low level aerial photography become widely available we could aim towards it. I suspect for some users this accuracy is probably important. Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Ed Loach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve wrote: I was under the impression that the local authorities generally used an OS base map, so their own data may well be derived from the OS data. A few years ago now (5 or 6) the bungalow next door was knocked down and two put on the plot in it's place. After they were built, an OS surveyor knocked on our door to ask permission to survey the new properties relative to ours He didn't need to ask permission either. The Ordnance Survey Act of 1841 gives him the right to from time to time, after notice in writing of the intention ... to enter into and upon any estate or property of any county ... for the purpose of making and carrying on any survey... The full scoop is here: http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+PrimaryPageNumber=98NavFrom=2parentActiveTextDocId=1149277activetextdocid=1149281 (to give him the known fixed points on their existing data), which he surveyed entering the information straight onto a touch screen device and could presumably have been uploaded directly to the OS database if it had some sort of mobile data connection. I'm not sure this project currently supports that kind of accuracy, though perhaps if accurate GPS devices (there was something on TV about a harvester which drives itself to within 1 inch accuracy), and/or low level aerial photography become widely available we could aim towards it. I suspect for some users this accuracy is probably important. Ed ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)
On 8/29/08, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He didn't need to ask permission either. The Ordnance Survey Act of 1841 gives him the right to from time to time, after notice in writing of the intention ... to enter into and upon any estate or property of any county ... for the purpose of making and carrying on any survey... The full scoop is here: http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+PrimaryPageNumber=98NavFrom=2parentActiveTextDocId=1149277activetextdocid=1149281 I heard somewhere that they no longer hold this legal right? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)
Hi guys, I'm a relative newbie to OSM(I understand it - I just haven't been involved long), but I just noticed this on the news sites: http://news.google.co.uk/?ncl=1240671745 I'm seeing articles like this: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4629602.ece saying things like: Corporate cartographers are demolishing thousands of years of history, not to mention Britain's geography, at a stroke, by not including them on maps, she said. We're in danger of losing what makes maps unique; giving us a feel for a place. It seems someone has made a speech condemning online map providors with being obsessed with directions etc. There are headlines like Is cartography a dying art? and technologists from google saying: Whereas Ordnance Survey maps were designed for the military, and churches were added simply as useful landmarks, digital maps could now be customised to reveal the location of fish-and-chip shops in any given district, he said. “If you want to know exactly where Doctor Who episodes were produced around the UK, that can be put on to a map,” Perhaps the people who are nearish the top of OSM, and I feel sheepish that I don't really know who I'm talking about, might like to put out a pressrelease or press statement about how OSM is helping put *real* maps back on the internet and allow cool mashups etc. I'm not sure of the vein exactly, all I can see if a press opportunity that should not be missed. Cheers Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
