Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
On 15/07/09 19:36, Nicholas Barnes wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: Page splits will be entirely dependent on the size of your browser window Unless the 'print' link generated a PDF, of course! Except this is overkill in most cases when you just want a quick print out. As a user if I click on a print link I don't expect to have a PDF downloaded which I then need to open in another bit of software before I can print. We could link to a page with a fixed width map (I think this is what google maps do) rather than the variable width, but this fails as the width would need to depend on what paper is being used and the orientation of the page... Cheers Chris ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
Chris Fleming wrote: Except this is overkill in most cases when you just want a quick print out. Yes. It was said with tongue planted firmly in cheek... Is there a smiley for that? :-J perhaps? Nick. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
Tom Hughes wrote: Page splits will be entirely dependent on the size of your browser window Unless the 'print' link generated a PDF, of course! Nick. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
I agree a decent link near the permalink area for printing would help a lot. Printing extra pages is annoying too and should be taken into consideration as well, a trap that i've seen happen a lot is that the output is formatted for the US letter format and not A4, so local country considerations need to be thought about. Cheers Bob --- On Mon, 13/7/09, WessexMario wessexmario-...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: WessexMario wessexmario-...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 1:57 PM Mario Caves wrote: I agree with Jack on this one, I'm a long in the tooth IT pro and as choosing the browser print option is often a waste of paper, it took me months before I found out how well OSM formatted the browser print option, so a 'print this map' link/icon/tag/button would go a long way to helping 'ordinary' map users get more out of OSM. Jack Stringer wrote: Not all websites are not as well designed as OSM. Often when you click print you get 2 blank pages plus 3 with the adverts on them and 1 page of the map, cut right in half on the area you wanted to see. Jack Stringer ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
On 14/07/09 09:12, Bob Kerr wrote: I agree a decent link near the permalink area for printing would help a lot. Printing extra pages is annoying too and should be taken into consideration as well, a trap that i've seen happen a lot is that the output is formatted for the US letter format and not A4, so local country considerations need to be thought about. Such a link would just be a javascript call that triggered the browser's print dialog - there isn't much more it can do really. Certainly it can't influence paper choice - after all only you know what printer you have and what paper it has in it. The way to influence that is to use the page/printer setup options in your browser and/or operating system. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
In firefox, the 'view image' - 'print preview' commands on a static map works very well -- the map image is scaled by firefox to fit whatever paper you are using. Of course, the resolution of the image doesn't necessarily match that of your printer... ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
On 14/07/09 12:07, OJ W wrote: In firefox, the 'view image' - 'print preview' commands on a static map works very well -- the map image is scaled by firefox to fit whatever paper you are using. Of course, the resolution of the image doesn't necessarily match that of your printer... ___ I find that the print in firefox works very well. The print stylesheet ensures that only the required parts of the page get printed. The only caveat, is that if I switch from portrait to landscape mode then the attribution is printed on the second page, and there could be a little tidying up of the fonts to match the fonts used on the front page. My print output: Portrait Format: http://www.chrisfleming.org/osm_print_portrait.pdf Landscape Format: http://www.chrisfleming.org/osm_print_landscape.pdf Cheers Chris ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
On 14/07/09 18:21, Chris Fleming wrote: I find that the print in firefox works very well. The print stylesheet ensures that only the required parts of the page get printed. The only caveat, is that if I switch from portrait to landscape mode then the attribution is printed on the second page, and there could be a little tidying up of the fonts to match the fonts used on the front page. Page splits will be entirely dependent on the size of your browser window - it will scale the map to fit the width of the page and then if there isn't enough vertical space for everything it will wrap to a new page. That's entirely a browser thing though, so different browsers may not do exactly the same thing. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
Tom Hughes wrote: On 14/07/09 18:21, Chris Fleming wrote: I find that the print in firefox works very well. The print stylesheet ensures that only the required parts of the page get printed. The only caveat, is that if I switch from portrait to landscape mode then the attribution is printed on the second page, and there could be a little tidying up of the fonts to match the fonts used on the front page. Page splits will be entirely dependent on the size of your browser window - it will scale the map to fit the width of the page and then if there isn't enough vertical space for everything it will wrap to a new page. That's my experience in printing from Firefox too - a single sheet with one line. (Doesn't it reformat the map to fill the page as it would on screen, hence making this inevitable?) You could do an @media print in the CSS and set the attribution to absolute positioning top and left some suitable value to avoid intruding on the image much. [There really ought to be a name for these single sheets that so often are just one line of legal stuff (or even save the environment, don't print this) - how about dregsheet] David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
Tom Hughes wrote: That's entirely a browser thing though, so different browsers may not do exactly the same thing. Curiously, IE8 produces 3 (!) pages in landscape, but all map - the area you were seeing plus 1.5 pages worth to the south - BUT omits the attribution completely. David ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
On 14/07/09 21:10, David Earl wrote: That's my experience in printing from Firefox too - a single sheet with one line. (Doesn't it reformat the map to fill the page as it would on screen, hence making this inevitable?) The map you get is exactly the same map you see on screen at the time that you choose to print. If that is too wide to fit on the page then Firefox will scale it down until it fits across the page. It then considers how much space there is for the other things that need printing and throws a new page if needed. You could do an @media print in the CSS and set the attribution to absolute positioning top and left some suitable value to avoid intruding on the image much. We have a whole separate stylesheet for print already - that is what turns off all the bits around the edge and turns on the attribution. If you can suggest changes to that sheet to make it produce better output then please do so... Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Jack Stringer wrote: Something that tells you that trick. I'm not sure that clicking on your browser's print button in order to print the thing you're currently looking at in the browser qualifies as a trick does it? Seems like SOP for anyone using a computer to me? - Steve xmpp:st...@nexusuk.org sip:st...@nexusuk.org http://www.nexusuk.org/ Servatis a periculum, servatis a maleficum - Whisper, Evanescence ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
Not all websites are not as well designed as OSM. Often when you click print you get 2 blank pages plus 3 with the adverts on them and 1 page of the map, cut right in half on the area you wanted to see. Jack Stringer ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
Mario Caves wrote: I agree with Jack on this one, I'm a long in the tooth IT pro and as choosing the browser print option is often a waste of paper, it took me months before I found out how well OSM formatted the browser print option, so a 'print this map' link/icon/tag/button would go a long way to helping 'ordinary' map users get more out of OSM. Jack Stringer wrote: Not all websites are not as well designed as OSM. Often when you click print you get 2 blank pages plus 3 with the adverts on them and 1 page of the map, cut right in half on the area you wanted to see. Jack Stringer ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] printing from website
I don't think I expressed myself clearly in the lazyosm session.[1] I would like to see a simple 'Print' button or tab . This tab would show something like the walking-papers.org 'Make a Print interface' centered on current point at current zoom. So that a regular someone coming to the website can see obviously that they can print the maps well and find it _easily_ and _intuitively. imho the export tab is too complicated for that. Regards, Daniel [1] and I'm embarrassed because I'd forgotten how to print using the export tab - but that kinda illustrates this point. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
If you use your browser's print option you get a full page (on landscape) map of the current zoom area. What else would you like to see? Cheers, Chris Daniel Glassey wrote: I don't think I expressed myself clearly in the lazyosm session.[1] I would like to see a simple 'Print' button or tab . This tab would show something like the walking-papers.org 'Make a Print interface' centered on current point at current zoom. So that a regular someone coming to the website can see obviously that they can print the maps well and find it _easily_ and _intuitively. imho the export tab is too complicated for that. Regards, Daniel [1] and I'm embarrassed because I'd forgotten how to print using the export tab - but that kinda illustrates this point. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website
2009/7/12 Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk: If you use your browser's print option you get a full page (on landscape) map of the current zoom area. What else would you like to see? Cheers, Chris Something that tells you that trick. Does anyone currently offer a service to print OSM for people? Jack Stringer ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
