Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Friday 27 Nov 2009 10:06:01 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Friday 27 Nov 2009 10:00:36 am Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: Can we have a link to detailed disclaimer page on http://xlquest.net about the borders used. Since we are calling it Indian OSM Server running out of NRC-FOSS money, We should put up something to avoid any noises against OSM in general.There has been quite a few noises in wikipedia against Arun's map and more people(govt officials) getting caught for using them. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India_roadway_map.svg Notes included in this has a detailed disclaimer. OR To be inline with patriotic folks without NPOV, Indian Server should reflect legal borders mentioned by Survey of India,GoI. Personally, I would like to have the map in present form with a disclaimer. Thoughts please. I will put a disclaimer - I just saw 'Azad Kashmir' on the map. btw - where is the disclaimer? or do you have the text for a disclaimer? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Friday 27 Nov 2009 10:06:01 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Friday 27 Nov 2009 10:00:36 am Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: Can we have a link to detailed disclaimer page on http://xlquest.net Personally, I would like to have the map in present form with a disclaimer. Thoughts please. I will put a disclaimer - I just saw 'Azad Kashmir' on the map. btw - where is the disclaimer? or do you have the text for a disclaimer? Sorry the disclaimer is on the Template box and additional notes below. Put it out on your source control. We can work it out and put one. You must be able to get a better one being a lawyer. The frontiers depicted on the Indian maps in s*Wikipedia*/s OSM are from a neutral point of view and may differ from official government map of India,s *Pakistan and China.*/s Please consult local laws governing publication of maps before usage. On a slightly related note, Since the map is editable by anyone and we may not have the time to look at OSM data day in and day out, we must put some additional disclaimers about editable map so disclaimer will be complete covering an act of editing by some chinese guy / govt editing OSM to claim arunachal pradesh. -- Regards Srikanth.L http://j.mp/SrikanthL ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Friday 27 Nov 2009 10:20:13 am PlaneMad wrote: i personally feel that the indian server should show the claimed boundary of entire jk in addition to the present line of control (which btw is not yet an official boundary). maybe this can be added to the osm db as a historical border? we would need to discuss this with the folks across the border as well. all data on the Indian server is taken from OSM. The idea of separate data is too scary to contemplate. However the boundaries are from a separate file, I will take a look at that and see what can be done. kenneth, the disclaimer is below the license: The frontiers depicted on the Indian maps in Wikipedia are from a neutral point of view and may differ from official government maps of India, Pakistan and China. Please consult local laws governing publication of maps before usage. ok - will put this up -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Friday 27 Nov 2009 10:24:00 am Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: The frontiers depicted on the Indian maps in s*Wikipedia*/s OSM are from a neutral point of view and may differ from official government map of India,s *Pakistan and China.*/s Please consult local laws governing publication of maps before usage. On a slightly related note, Since the map is editable by anyone and we may not have the time to look at OSM data day in and day out, we must put some additional disclaimers about editable map so disclaimer will be complete covering an act of editing by some chinese guy / govt editing OSM to claim arunachal pradesh. hows this: The frontiers depicted on this map come from the OSM database and differ from the official government map of India. We are making efforts to depict the official boundaries. Until such time please consult the authorities before using those parts of the map which vary from the official boundaries. Users may note that since this map is editably by anyone, at times there will be inaccuracies caused by spammers and other anti-social elements. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
i guess you got me wrong, i suggested adding the historical borders of kashmir kingdom after consulting the pakistani editors into osm. but this would be rendered only on the indian server as a dotted line or whatever. for indian use its important to indicate that border without which you cant publish the map here. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Friday 27 Nov 2009 10:20:13 am PlaneMad wrote: i personally feel that the indian server should show the claimed boundary of entire jk in addition to the present line of control (which btw is not yet an official boundary). maybe this can be added to the osm db as a historical border? we would need to discuss this with the folks across the border as well. all data on the Indian server is taken from OSM. The idea of separate data is too scary to contemplate. However the boundaries are from a separate file, I will take a look at that and see what can be done. kenneth, the disclaimer is below the license: The frontiers depicted on the Indian maps in Wikipedia are from a neutral point of view and may differ from official government maps of India, Pakistan and China. Please consult local laws governing publication of maps before usage. ok - will put this up -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Friday 27 Nov 2009 10:43:19 am PlaneMad wrote: i guess you got me wrong, i suggested adding the historical borders of kashmir kingdom after consulting the pakistani editors into osm. but this would be rendered only on the indian server as a dotted line or whatever. for indian use its important to indicate that border without which you cant publish the map here. anyway I found a solution - although I need help. The boundaries are *not* in the OSM database. They are in a separate set of files called 'world_boundaries' which is used by osm2pgsql to populate the database. Those files are available here: $ wget http://tile.openstreetmap.org/world_boundaries-spherical.tgz (50M) we need someone to open these files in grass or qgis and edit the Indian boundaries to reflect the official position. Of course we will still have 'Azad Kashmir', but it will be shown as inside India. Or we can add some xml rule not to render it. So can someone with GIS expertise please do the needful? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: hows this: The frontiers depicted on this map come from the OSM database*[1]* and differ from the official government map of India. We are making efforts to depict the official boundaries. Until such time please consult the authorities before using those parts of the map which vary from the official boundaries. Users may note that since this map is editabl*e* by anyone, at times there will be inaccuracies caused by spammers and other anti-social elements. *-- XLQUEST team / OSM Contributors in India and link to OSM page? *(Clarifies We, Things where a foundation will help) *[1] location to OSM database * Thats good. added few updates to it. -- Regards Srikanth.L http://www.google.com/profiles/srik.lak ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Friday 27 Nov 2009 11:51:39 am Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: *-- XLQUEST team / OSM Contributors in India and link to OSM page? *(Clarifies We, Things where a foundation will help) *[1] location to OSM database * Thats good. added few updates to it. please see my other post regarding boundaries in this thread - if we show the official boundaries, we do not need a disclaimer -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Friday 27 Nov 2009 11:51:39 am Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: *-- XLQUEST team / OSM Contributors in India and link to OSM page? *(Clarifies We, Things where a foundation will help) *[1] location to OSM database * Thats good. added few updates to it. please see my other post regarding boundaries in this thread - if we show the official boundaries, we do not need a disclaimer Agreed.It would still be nice to have this part atleast. Users may note that since this map is editably by anyone, at times there will be inaccuracies caused by spammers and other anti-social elements. Irrespective of borders, we can still have spammers cause damage. Preparing for digital wars :P -- Regards Srikanth.L http://www.google.com/profiles/srik.lak ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Border Disclaimer
On Friday 27 Nov 2009 12:36:45 pm Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: Agreed.It would still be nice to have this part atleast. Users may note that since this map is editably by anyone, at times there will be inaccuracies caused by spammers and other anti-social elements. Irrespective of borders, we can still have spammers cause damage. Preparing for digital wars :P but not for boundaries - that will be sitting firmly on my hard disk and no one can mess with them. And the map is not editable - OSM is, and a link is given, so their disclaimer suffices. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
