Re: [Talk-es] Predefinido de JOSM para mapear Bienes de Interés Cultural

[dcapillae]

Buenos días.

Sí, es correcto. En el wiki se refieren a «patrimonio» en el sentido de un
bien, sea el que sea, que ha sido declarado y registrado como tal, sin
entrar en más consideraciones. A menudo las Administraciones confeccionan
los catálogos de lo que consideran debe ser patrimonio protegido sin
elaborar primero las leyes de protección o dejando éstas para más adelante.

En lo que se refiere al uso de la etiqueta «heritage=*» para mapear
patrimonio en OSM, lo único que hace falta es que haya sido declarado como
tal por un organismo oficial de gestión del patrimonio, en los casos que
estamos comentando, la Administración pública autonómica o nacional.

Atentamente,

Daniel



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Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

[Nuno Caldeira]

Yes it is and  when they reply:

The Livestream Platform does not utilize the Open Street Map site or 
any of the data that you're referring to. We have always used another 
mapping service to integrate locations within our event and have no 
ties to OpenStreetMap.
And then you send a OSM History Viewer link of when you added on OSM 
with a printscreen of that same element on their website.


Às 23:48 de 23/07/2019, James escreveu:
It's kind of funny when people deny osm data as it has it's own sort 
flavour that differentiates it from google, bing, here, etc. It's 
instantly recognizable.


On Tue., Jul. 23, 2019, 6:43 p.m. Nuno Caldeira, 
mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:


Months go by nothing happens. here's another example from
LiveStream, a Vimeo service.They have a map (example, press "i"
https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7200883 ) , asked
to add the attribution, they replied they do not use OSM tiles or
data, which i kindly asked how they had my contributions on their
map. They stopped replying, short after saying they would
investigate.

Guess what tiles they are using? Mapbox. Screenshot
https://i.ibb.co/0njPFyy/ssdasd.jpg

Does OSMF need these corporates member that keep acting like this?
Who are the first not complying with what the community wanted
when we switched from CC to ODbL? Still the board hasn't replied
to my request to terminate Facebook license
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082653.html

Funnily, Facebook shared this today

https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/

As a reminder of OSMF articles
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association



OBJECTS

3. The Foundation is established for the purposes listed below:

(1) encouraging the growth, development and distribution of
free geospatial data; and
(2) providing geospatial data for anybody to use and share.


Are these companies encouraging the use, the growth and
distribution of OSM, by repeatedly and after being asked several
times to show the attribution?

Do we need to ask the board to expel those corporate members
(equivalent to associate member)?


18. The board may only resolve to expel a person as member or
associate member if, in the board's reasonable opinion, that
person's conduct interferes or is likely to interfere with the
Foundation _*achieving one or more of its objects*_. 


Who's in need more of who? OpenStreetMap or these companies? this
is not acceptable and OSMF needs to act as companies, their
clients clearly do not care when contributors contact them asking
to comply. This is a snowball going downhill with more and more
companies doing what facebook does and not attribution and stop
replying to the contributors request to add the attribution. Guess
we or OSMF is too soft on this.

When we switch this was plain and explicit:
*Both licenses are “By Attribution”* and “Share Alike”.



Can I trust the OpenStreetMap Foundation ?

The Foundation is "dedicated to encouraging the growth,
development and distribution of free geospatial data and to
providing geospatial data for anybody to use and share.", (
http://www.osmfoundation.org ).

But what happens if the Foundation is taken over by people with
commercial interests?

  * You still own the rights to any data you contribute, not the
Foundation. In the new Contributor Terms, you license the
Foundation to publish the data for others to use and ONLY
under a free and open license.

  * The Foundation is not allowed to take your contribution and
release it under a commercial license.

  * If the Foundation fails to publish under only a free and open
license, it has broken its contract with you. A copy of the
existing data can be made and released by a different body.

  * If a change is made to another free and open license, it is
active contributors who decide yes or no, not the Foundation.


from

https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F



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Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

[James]

It's kind of funny when people deny osm data as it has it's own sort
flavour that differentiates it from google, bing, here, etc. It's instantly
recognizable.

On Tue., Jul. 23, 2019, 6:43 p.m. Nuno Caldeira, <
nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Months go by nothing happens. here's another example from LiveStream, a
> Vimeo service.They have a map (example, press "i"
> https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7200883 ) , asked to add
> the attribution, they replied they do not use OSM tiles or data, which i
> kindly asked how they had my contributions on their map. They stopped
> replying, short after saying they would investigate.
>
> Guess what tiles they are using? Mapbox. Screenshot
> https://i.ibb.co/0njPFyy/ssdasd.jpg
>
> Does OSMF need these corporates member that keep acting like this? Who are
> the first not complying with what the community wanted when we switched
> from CC to ODbL? Still the board hasn't replied to my request to terminate
> Facebook license
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082653.html
>
> Funnily, Facebook shared this today
> https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/
>
> As a reminder of OSMF articles
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association
>
> OBJECTS
>
> 3. The Foundation is established for the purposes listed below:
> (1) encouraging the growth, development and distribution of free
> geospatial data; and (2) providing geospatial data for anybody to use and
> share.
>
> Are these companies encouraging the use, the growth and distribution of
> OSM, by repeatedly and after being asked several times to show the
> attribution?
>
> Do we need to ask the board to expel those corporate members (equivalent
> to associate member)?
>
> 18. The board may only resolve to expel a person as member or associate
> member if, in the board's reasonable opinion, that person's conduct
> interferes or is likely to interfere with the Foundation *achieving one
> or more of its objects*.
>
>
> Who's in need more of who? OpenStreetMap or these companies? this is not
> acceptable and OSMF needs to act as companies, their clients clearly do not
> care when contributors contact them asking to comply. This is a snowball
> going downhill with more and more companies doing what facebook does and
> not attribution and stop replying to the contributors request to add the
> attribution. Guess we or OSMF is too soft on this.
>
> When we switch this was plain and explicit:
> *Both licenses are “By Attribution”* and “Share Alike”.
>
> Can I trust the OpenStreetMap Foundation ?
>
> The Foundation is "dedicated to encouraging the growth, development and
> distribution of free geospatial data and to providing geospatial data for
> anybody to use and share.", ( http://www.osmfoundation.org ).
>
> But what happens if the Foundation is taken over by people with commercial
> interests?
>
>- You still own the rights to any data you contribute, not the
>Foundation. In the new Contributor Terms, you license the Foundation to
>publish the data for others to use and ONLY under a free and open license.
>
>
>- The Foundation is not allowed to take your contribution and release
>it under a commercial license.
>
>
>- If the Foundation fails to publish under only a free and open
>license, it has broken its contract with you. A copy of the existing data
>can be made and released by a different body.
>
>
>- If a change is made to another free and open license, it is active
>contributors who decide yes or no, not the Foundation.
>
> from
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

[Nuno Caldeira]

Months go by nothing happens. here's another example from LiveStream, a 
Vimeo service.They have a map (example, press "i" 
https://livestream.com/accounts/23202872/events/7200883 ) , asked to add 
the attribution, they replied they do not use OSM tiles or data, which i 
kindly asked how they had my contributions on their map. They stopped 
replying, short after saying they would investigate.


Guess what tiles they are using? Mapbox. Screenshot 
https://i.ibb.co/0njPFyy/ssdasd.jpg


Does OSMF need these corporates member that keep acting like this? Who 
are the first not complying with what the community wanted when we 
switched from CC to ODbL? Still the board hasn't replied to my request 
to terminate Facebook license 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-June/082653.html


Funnily, Facebook shared this today 
https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/


As a reminder of OSMF articles 
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association




OBJECTS

3. The Foundation is established for the purposes listed below:

(1) encouraging the growth, development and distribution of free
geospatial data; and
(2) providing geospatial data for anybody to use and share.

Are these companies encouraging the use, the growth and distribution of 
OSM, by repeatedly and after being asked several times to show the 
attribution?


Do we need to ask the board to expel those corporate members (equivalent 
to associate member)?


18. The board may only resolve to expel a person as member or 
associate member if, in the board's reasonable opinion, that person's 
conduct interferes or is likely to interfere with the Foundation 
_*achieving one or more of its objects*_. 


Who's in need more of who? OpenStreetMap or these companies? this is not 
acceptable and OSMF needs to act as companies, their clients clearly do 
not care when contributors contact them asking to comply. This is a 
snowball going downhill with more and more companies doing what facebook 
does and not attribution and stop replying to the contributors request 
to add the attribution. Guess we or OSMF is too soft on this.


When we switch this was plain and explicit:
*Both licenses are “By Attribution”* and “Share Alike”.



Can I trust the OpenStreetMap Foundation ?

The Foundation is "dedicated to encouraging the growth, development 
and distribution of free geospatial data and to providing geospatial 
data for anybody to use and share.", ( http://www.osmfoundation.org ).


But what happens if the Foundation is taken over by people with 
commercial interests?


  * You still own the rights to any data you contribute, not the
Foundation. In the new Contributor Terms, you license the
Foundation to publish the data for others to use and ONLY under a
free and open license.

  * The Foundation is not allowed to take your contribution and
release it under a commercial license.

  * If the Foundation fails to publish under only a free and open
license, it has broken its contract with you. A copy of the
existing data can be made and released by a different body.

  * If a change is made to another free and open license, it is active
contributors who decide yes or no, not the Foundation.

from 
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F



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Re: [Talk-es] Predefinido de JOSM para mapear Bienes de Interés Cultural

[Lanxana .]

Buenas tardes,

he estado investigando sobre los diferentes niveles de protección en
Catalunya. A grosso modo se establecen 3 niveles:

BCIN (Bien Cultural de Interés Nacional). Declarado por la Generalitat e
incorporado al catálogo de Bienes de Interés Cultural (BIC)
BCIL (Bien Cultural de Interés Local). Declarado por la Generalitat en el
caso de bienes muebles, y por la administración local en el caso de los
inmuebles.
IPAC (Inventario del patrimonio arquitectónico de Catalunya), EPA (Espacio
de Protección Arqueológica) y otros inventarios. Son bienes inventariados
para su protección para los que aún no se han realizado los pasos
necesarios para convertirlos en BCIL o BCIN. En el caso de los espacios
arquitectónicos, son espacios susceptibles de contener restos arqueológicos
o paleontológicos de interés, pendientes de su exploración.

En los dos primeros casos estamos hablando de catálogos oficiales de bienes
protegidos, en el resto de casos de inventario de bienes de los que se
tiene conocimiento pero aún no han sido catalogados. La ley 9/1993 del
patrimonio cultural catalán [1] establece que estos bienes están protegidos
y forman parte del patrimonio cultural pero carecen de protección legal
específica.

Para los dos primeros entiendo que sería de aplicación el etiquetado de
heritage=2 o 4 en función de si es BCIN o BCIL, pero en el caso de los
inventarios tenía mis dudas.Tras revisar la entrada sobre "heritage" en la
wiki [2] creo que pueden incorporarse como heritage=4, dado que se habla de
patrimonio, sin entrar en el grado de protección al que está sujeto.

Qué opináis?

Saludos.

[1] https://www.boe.es/buscar/pdf/1993/BOE-A-1993-26497-consolidado.pdf
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:heritage

El sáb., 20 jul. 2019 a las 13:30, dcapillae ()
escribió:

> Buenos días.
>
> El número de referencia del BIC se debe indicar con la clave «ref:bic» [1].
> Si se trata de un identificador distinto que hace referencia a otra
> categoría de protección, en este caso, al Inventario del Patrimonio
> Arquitectónico de Cataluña, lo correcto sería (creo yo) situarlo en una
> etiqueta propia e independiente del número de referencia del BIC.
>
> Entiendo que podrías usar «ref:ipac=*». También es posible usar «ref:ipac»
> junto a «ref:bic» si se trata de un Bien de Interés Cultural incluido a su
> vez en el inventario IPAC. Sería un bien con doble categoría de protección
> y
> dos identificadores, uno como BIC y otro como IPAC.
>
> Hace tiempo me propuse mapear los Monumentos Naturales de Andalucía, pero
> no
> encontré tiempo de ponerme a pensar en un etiquetado adecuado para estos
> bienes. Conviene estudiar previamente cómo se mapea el patrimonio en OSM y
> diseñar un esquema de etiquetado compatible y sencillo que pueda ser
> utilizado por cualquiera sin entrar en contradicción con el etiquetado ya
> existente. El propio esquema de etiquetado de los BIC es una recopilación
> que hice en su día de lo que había disperso por el wiki. Se puede mejorar y
> ampliar.
>
> Por ejemplo, la denominación de «Bien de Interés Cultural» se usa en otros
> países, no solo en España. En el wiki aparece documentada la clave
> «ref:bic»
> únicamente para el caso de Bienes de Interés Cultural en España. Esto puede
> generar confusión en el futuro y habría que revisarlo, pero de momento es
> lo
> que tenemos.
>
> Atentamente,
> Daniel
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Key:ref:bic
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Tempesta VAIA

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

Il 23/07/19 20:14, scratera ha scritto:
> causa tempesta VAIA molti sentieri sono divenuti
> impraticabilepersonalmente sono dell'idea di lasciare le trace in osm
> togliendo il tag higway e aggiungendo un campo note con scritto
> impraticabile causa tempesta VAIA 
> 

Personalmente sono contrario, e dipende dalla situazione, e comunque non
specificherei causa Vaia.

Se sul posto è inagibile, si mette di solito il tag obstacle su tutto il
tratto tale, compreso il trail_visibility=no, ad indicare
l'impossibilità di proseguire, non tutti i sentieri sono totalmente
inagibili, mentre quelli proprio modificati causa smottamenti, o
valutati non più ripristinabili perchè magari interrotti per un tratto
causa cedimento, si termina la way dove finisce il sentiero, per me si
riporta la realtà, Vaia o no.

Si consideri anche che SAT/CAI riportano di solito i tratti interessati
dalla inagibilità, anche se non in maniera tempestiva, ma comunque nel
tempo la maggior parte, credo, saranno ripristinati da volontari, mentre
dove non è più possibile passare si faranno deviazioni con nuovi tratti,
per cui cancellare non mi sembra una buona cosa, anche se resta una
nota, che comunque non ho capito perchè deve restare, se non cè più si
cancella, resta nello storico di OSM.






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Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey OpenData

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Got it, thanks, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Ale

On 23/07/19 16:58, Simon Poole wrote:


There is no conflict.

The specific OS version of the OGL was/is incompatible, data released 
on generic OGL terms including such by OS is (compatible).


Am 23.07.2019 um 16:37 schrieb Colin Smale:



On 2019-07-23 16:05, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:

Just be careful that it seems that the OS OpenData license is not 
compatible with OSM, see 
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_Compatibility#Open_Government_Licence_.28OGL.29_based_licences


What about 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata which 
says the OGL licence is compatible? What to you know that others don't?



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[Talk-GB] Question from Amazon on tracks vs service roads

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

Please see the following diary post where help is sought in converting
ground surveys in to map edits.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jguthula/diary/390322

Best regards,
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Re: [Talk-uy] Retos de MapRoulette en Uruguay

[Andrew Wiseman via Talk-uy]

Hola,

He publicado otro reto de MapRoulette, para las líneas de costa en Uruguay. 
Este reto busca partes de la costa que están muy largas o con esquinas agudos, 
que pueden deberse a digitalización inexacta o a muy pocos vértices o esquinas 
como sea necesario. Hay más detalles y instrucciones en el reto: 
https://maproulette.org/challenge/8261

Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario. 

Saludos,

Andrew



Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 | andrew_wise...@apple.com 


> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:46 PM, Andrew Wiseman  wrote:
> 
> Hola,
> 
> Parece que los primeros desafíos están terminados, así que creé algunos más, 
> principalmente sobre problemas de enrutamiento y conectividad vial. 
> 
> Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario.
> 
> Los retos son:
> 
> Enrutamiento Imposible / Impossible Routing: 
> https://maproulette.org/challenge/4102 
> 
> Vías Flotando / Floating Ways: https://maproulette.org/challenge/4103 
> 
> Vías Cruzando / Crossing Ways: https://maproulette.org/challenge/4104 
> 
> Chequear de Conectividad / Connectivity Check: 
> https://maproulette.org/challenge/4106 
> 
> Gracias!
> 
> Andrew
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Andrew Wiseman via Talk-uy 
>> mailto:talk-uy@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hola OSM Uruguay,
>> 
>> Esto es Andrew del equipo de mapas de Apple. Llevamos algún tiempo 
>> trabajando en Uruguay (https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/24 
>> ) y recientemente usado 
>> nuestro herramienta Atlas para análisis de datos 
>> (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas ) para 
>> buscar algunos tipos de posibles problemas, como carreteras con ángulos 
>> agudos, intersecciones de edificios y carreteras, y lineas (frecuentemente 
>> vías) superpuestas. Pongo los resultados de los retos en MapRoulette 
>> (maproulette.org ), un herramienta que te permite 
>> pasar los problemas uno por uno y corregirlos o marcar que no son un 
>> problema. Quería hacerles saber que estaban disponibles en caso de que 
>> alguien quisiera intentar arreglarlos. Yo también arreglaré algunos.
>> 
>> En MapRoulette escoges un problema random o haz clic en un problema 
>> especifico. Si desea ver tareas en un lugar determinado, como en un lugar 
>> con el que está familiarizado, puede hacer clic en "más opciones" y luego en 
>> “load tasks by proximity” (cargar tareas por proximidad.)
>> 
>> Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario.
>> 
>> Los retos son:
>> 
>> Intersecciones de edificios y carreteras: 
>> https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3745 
>> 
>> Carreteras y vías de ángulo agudo: 
>> https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3743 
>> 
>> Superpuestas de lineas: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3744 
>> 
>>  
>> Muchas gracias,
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Talk-ec] Retos de MapRoulette de Ecuador

[Andrew Wiseman via Talk-ec]

Hola,

He publicado otro reto de MapRoulette, para las líneas de costa en Ecuador. 
Esta reto busca partes de la costa que están muy largas o con esquinas agudos, 
que pueden deberse a digitalización inexacta o a muy pocos vértices o esquinas 
como sea necesario. Hay más detalles y instrucciones en el reto: 
https://maproulette.org/challenge/8260

Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario. 

Saludos,

Andrew


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> On Jan 29, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Andrew Wiseman via Talk-ec 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hola OSM Ecuador,
> 
> Esto es Andrew del equipo de mapas de Apple. Llevamos algún tiempo trabajando 
> en el red vial (https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/25 
> ) y recientemente usado 
> nuestro herramienta Atlas para análisis de datos 
> (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas ) para 
> buscar algunos tipos de posibles problemas, como carreteras con ángulos 
> agudos, intersecciones de edificios y carreteras, vías superpuestas, y 
> lugares donde la clasificación de “highway_link” no coincide con la 
> clasificación más alta de las carreteras. Pongo los resultados de los retos 
> en MapRoulette (maproulette.org ), un herramienta 
> que te permite pasar los problemas uno por uno y corregirlos o marcar que no 
> son un problema. Quería hacerles saber que estaban disponibles en caso de que 
> alguien quisiera intentar arreglarlos. Yo también arreglaré algunos.
> 
> En MapRoulette escoges un problema random o haz clic en un problema 
> especifico. Si desea ver tareas en un lugar determinado, como en un lugar con 
> el que está familiarizado, puede hacer clic en "más opciones" y luego en 
> “load tasks by proximity” (cargar tareas por proximidad.)
> 
> Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario.
> 
> Los retos son:
> 
> Carreteras de ángulo agudo: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3576/ 
> 
> Intersecciones de edificios y carreteras: 
> https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3575 
>  
> Carreteras de enlaces: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3558 
> 
> Vías superpuestas: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3559 
> 
>  
> Muchas gracias,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
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Re: [OSM-co] Retos de MapRoulette para Colombia

[Andrew Wiseman via Talk-co]

Hola,

He publicado otro reto de MapRoulette, para las líneas de costa en Colombia. 
Esta reto busca partes de la costa que están muy largas o con esquinas agudos, 
que pueden deberse a digitalización inexacta o a muy pocos vértices o esquinas 
como sea necesario. Hay más detalles y instrucciones en el reto: 
https://maproulette.org/challenge/8251

Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario. 

Saludos,

Andrew


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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 6:27 PM, Andrew Wiseman  wrote:
> 
> Hola OSM Colombia,
> 
> Esto es Andrew del equipo de mapas de Apple. Llevamos algún tiempo trabajando 
> en el red vial (https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/43 
> ) y recientemente usado 
> nuestro herramienta Atlas para análisis de datos 
> (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas) para buscar algunos tipos de posibles 
> problemas, como carreteras con ángulos agudos, intersecciones de edificios y 
> carreteras, y lugares donde la clasificación de “highway_link” no coincide 
> con la clasificación más alta de las carreteras. Pongo los resultados de los 
> retos en MapRoulette, un herramienta que te permite pasar los problemas uno 
> por uno y corregirlos o marcar que no son un problema. Quería hacerles saber 
> que estaban disponibles en caso de que alguien quisiera intentar arreglarlos. 
> Yo también arreglaré algunos.
> 
> En MapRoulette escoges un problema random o haz clic en un problema 
> especifico. Si desea ver tareas en un lugar determinado, como en un lugar con 
> el que está familiarizado, puede hacer clic en "más opciones" y luego en 
> “load tasks by proximity” (cargar tareas por proximidad.)
> 
> Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario.
> 
> Los retos son:
> 
> Intersecciones de edificios y carreteras en Colombia (a cerca de Bogotá): 
> https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3389 
> 
> Carreteras de ángulo agudo en Colombia: 
> https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3358 
> 
> Carreteras de enlaces en Colombia: 
> https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3355 
> 
> 
> Muchas gracias,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-cl] Retos de MapRoulette en Chile

[Andrew Wiseman via Talk-cl]

Hola,

He publicado otro reto de MapRoulette, para las líneas de costa en Chile. Esta 
reto busca partes de la costa que están muy largas o con esquinas agudos, que 
pueden deberse a digitalización inexacta o a muy pocos vértices o esquinas como 
sea necesario. Hay más detalles y instrucciones en el reto: 
https://maproulette.org/challenge/8259 

Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario. 

Saludos,

Andrew

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> On Jan 29, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Andrew Wiseman via Talk-cl 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hola OSM Chile,
> 
> Esto es Andrew del equipo de mapas de Apple. Llevamos algún tiempo trabajando 
> en el red vial (https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/35 
> ) y recientemente usado 
> nuestro herramienta Atlas para análisis de datos 
> (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas ) para 
> buscar algunos tipos de posibles problemas, como carreteras con ángulos 
> agudos, intersecciones de edificios y carreteras, y lugares donde la 
> clasificación de “highway_link” no coincide con la clasificación más alta de 
> las carreteras. Pongo los resultados de los retos en MapRoulette 
> (maproulette.org ), un herramienta que te permite 
> pasar los problemas uno por uno y corregirlos o marcar que no son un 
> problema. Quería hacerles saber que estaban disponibles en caso de que 
> alguien quisiera intentar arreglarlos. Yo también arreglaré algunos.
> 
> En MapRoulette escoges un problema random o haz clic en un problema 
> especifico. Si desea ver tareas en un lugar determinado, como en un lugar con 
> el que está familiarizado, puede hacer clic en "más opciones" y luego en 
> “load tasks by proximity” (cargar tareas por proximidad.)
> 
> Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario.
> 
> Los retos son:
> 
> Carreteras y vías de ángulo agudo: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3573 
> 
> Intersecciones de edificios y carreteras: 
> https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3459 
> 
> Carreteras de enlaces: https://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3574 
> 
>  
> Muchas gracias,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-ar] Retos de MapRoulette en Argentina

[Andrew Wiseman via Talk-ar]

Hola,

He publicado otro reto de MapRoulette, para las líneas de costa en Argentina. 
Esta reto busca partes de la costa que están muy largas o con esquinas agudos, 
que pueden deberse a digitalización inexacta o a muy pocos vértices o esquinas 
como sea necesario. Hay más detalles y instrucciones en el reto: 
https://maproulette.org/challenge/8252

Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario. 

Saludos,

Andrew

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> On Dec 12, 2018, at 6:46 PM, Andrew Wiseman  wrote:
> 
> Hola OSM Argentina,
> 
> Esto es Andrew del equipo de mapas de Apple. Llevamos algún tiempo trabajando 
> en el red vial (https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues/34 
> ) y recientemente usado 
> nuestro herramienta Atlas para análisis de datos 
> (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas ) para 
> buscar algunos tipos de posibles problemas, como carreteras con ángulos 
> agudos, intersecciones de edificios y carreteras, y lugares donde la 
> clasificación de “highway_link” no coincide con la clasificación más alta de 
> las carreteras. Pongo los resultados de los retos en MapRoulette, un 
> herramienta que te permite pasar los problemas uno por uno y corregirlos o 
> marcar que no son un problema. Quería hacerles saber que estaban disponibles 
> en caso de que alguien quisiera intentar arreglarlos. Yo también arreglaré 
> algunos.
> 
> En MapRoulette escoges un problema random o haz clic en un problema 
> especifico. Si desea ver tareas en un lugar determinado, como en un lugar con 
> el que está familiarizado, puede hacer clic en "más opciones" y luego en 
> “load tasks by proximity” (cargar tareas por proximidad.)
> 
> Por favor, hágamelo saber si tiene alguna pregunta o comentario.
> 
> Los retos son:
> 
> Intersecciones de edificios y carreteras en Argentina: 
> https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3394/ 
> 
> Carreteras de ángulo agudo en Argentina: 
> https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3392/ 
> 
> Carreteras de enlaces en Argentina: 
> https://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/3393/ 
> 
> 
> Saludos,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | andrew_wise...@apple.com 
> 
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[Talk-it] Tempesta VAIA

[scratera]

causa tempesta VAIA molti sentieri sono divenuti
impraticabilepersonalmente sono dell'idea di lasciare le trace in osm
togliendo il tag higway e aggiungendo un campo note con scritto
impraticabile causa tempesta VAIA 



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Problème d'attribution sur une carte en ligne

[Vincent Bergeot]

Le 22/07/2019 à 16:57, Nicolas Moyroud a écrit :

Salut à tous,

Il me semble qu'il manque les bonnes attributions OSM sur cette carte 
non ?


https://climbingaway.fr/fr/site-escalade/carriere-de-boisseron

Vous connaissez ? Quelqu'un pour leur signaler ?


salut,

tu peux utiliser ce texte

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Lacking_proper_attribution et 
signaler le signalement, par la page contact par exemple.


à plus





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[OSM-talk-fr] Une secondary en zone de rencontre ?

[Phyks]

Bonjour à tous,

Montrouge nous a gratifié d'un aménagement de type zone de rencontre
(https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_de_rencontre) en plein milieu d'axes
départementaux structurants (à raison en highway=secondary pour
l'instant) : de part et d'autre de ce carrefour :
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/48.81614/2.31157.

En suivant le wiki, et pour annoter la spécificité de la zone de
rencontre (notamment la priorité absolue aux piétons, qui peuvent
marcher sur la chaussée), j'aurais utilisé
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:highway=living%20street?uselang=fr.
Ceci résulte en un rendu horrible avec une coupure franche de l'axe
(même si on ne tague pas pour le rendu), qui correspond finalement assez
bien à la réalisation.

On a un doute (https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1840402) et notamment
vis-à-vis de
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:France_roads_tagging#Grands_axes_de_circulation.2C_rues_principales
qui dit de maintenir les primary/secondary en tant que tels dans les
traversées de villes / villages.

Du coup, que faire sur cet aménagement ?

* Garder les living_street partout et les coupures de highway du coup ?
* Garder les secondary / tertiary sur tous les tronçons et ne rien
mettre en living_street ?

Dans le deuxième cas, comment décrire finement l'aménagement (au-delà de
la seule maxspeed=20) ?

Merci !
Bonne journée,
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Re: [Talk-ca] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

[dcapillae]

Hi,

The "WikiProject" prefixes have already been removed from pages related 
to the Canada mapping project. You can find the Canada mapping project 
page here:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada

Some cities in Canada have pages with special names. For example, 
"Canada:British Columbia:Vancouver", instead of just "Vancouver" [1]. It 
would be better to use the name of the city, as indicated by the wiki 
conventions for place pages.  For example, Québec [2].


I have not renamed these pages with special names because I'd need to 
ask you first. Is that okay?


Thank you for your collaboration.


Greetings from Spain.

Regards,

Daniel


[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:British_Columbia:Vancouver

[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Qu%C3%A9bec


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Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey OpenData

[Simon Poole]

There is no conflict.

The specific OS version of the OGL was/is incompatible, data released on
generic OGL terms including such by OS is (compatible).

Am 23.07.2019 um 16:37 schrieb Colin Smale:
>
>
> On 2019-07-23 16:05, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:
>
>> Just be careful that it seems that the OS OpenData license is not
>> compatible with OSM, see
>> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_Compatibility#Open_Government_Licence_.28OGL.29_based_licences
>>
> What
> about https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata which
> says the OGL licence is compatible? What to you know that others don't?
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Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey OpenData

[Colin Smale]

On 2019-07-23 16:05, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:

> Just be careful that it seems that the OS OpenData license is not compatible 
> with OSM, see 
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_Compatibility#Open_Government_Licence_.28OGL.29_based_licences

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Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey OpenData

[Dave F via talk]

On 23/07/2019 15:05, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:
Just be careful that it seems that the OS OpenData license is not 
compatible with OSM, see


It does not say that.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey OpenData

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Just be careful that it seems that the OS OpenData license is not 
compatible with OSM, see 
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_Compatibility#Open_Government_Licence_.28OGL.29_based_licences



Ale


On 23/07/19 14:39, Sérgio V. wrote:

Just to share news,
Ordnance Survey OpenData - OS Open Names etc
https://twitter.com/OrdnanceSurvey/status/1153593110129270784?s=20
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/products/opendata.html
Regards

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Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS

[Ewen Hill]

Just an update on Motorways. Australia has very few and most of these are
normally mapped correctly already. The Bass Highway in Victoria is not a
motorway as a number of roads enter at 90 degrees as well as driveways.
There is definitely no motorway through the townships of Cranbourne and
Tooradin as well as other towns. This is a Trunk road as it a key route to
west Gippsland towns.

The only time you would need to change to a motorway is for upgrades to
highways and local knowledge will do that for you.

Thanks for all your edits

Ewen

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 22:07, Andrew Harvey 
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> embedded images.
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Andrew Harvey 
> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 19:55
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS
> To: Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) 
> Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 
>
>
> Thanks for the examples.
>
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 19:27, Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) <
> v-maa...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> *Motorway or Trunk: **-38.3999033,145.5370408*
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Follow this Mapillary.
>>
>>
>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-38.3994248999=145.5372489=19.64334424490615=photo=QjkvLvLb1fNa_SNzVpbcgw
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is [M420], motorway which enters the town. Should the part
>> through the town be mapped as trunk or to keep it as motorway, because when
>> it leaves town it is for sure motorway but in town it does not fulfill the
>> description of motorway, also it has traffic signals.
>>
>
> According to the OSM wiki highway=motorway is for a controlled access
> highway, which wikipedia says:
>
> "A controlled-access highway provides an unhindered flow of traffic, with
> no traffic signals ,
> intersections  or property
> access . They are free of any at-grade
> crossings  with
> other roads, railways, or pedestrian paths, which are instead carried by
> overpasses  and underpasses
> . Entrances and exits to the
> highway are provided at interchanges
>  by slip roads (ramps),
> which allow for speed changes between the highway and arterials
>  and collector roads
> . On the controlled-access
> highway, opposing directions of travel are generally separated by a median
> strip  or central reservation
> containing a traffic barrier
>  or grass. Elimination of
> conflicts with other directions of traffic dramatically improves safety[1]
>  and
> capacity."
>
> Based on this, the Bass Highway is trunk not a motorway (it has traffic
> lights, roundabouts, it doesn't provide onramp/offramps), so I think you
> need to revert your recent tag change to this road, not just for the
> sections through towns, but for the whole road.
>
>
>>
>> *Trunk or Primary: **-34.8378323, 138.5029666*
>> 
>>
>>
>> We will follow the [A16] route from junction Victoria Road – Nelson
>> Street. These two roads are on the same [A16] route. Victoria Road is
>> mapped as Trunk, but Nelson Street is set as Primary Road.
>> These both roads look almost the same – two separate ways with two or three
>> lanes, no barrier in between:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Nelson Street*
>>
>>
>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo=kJLW93dqu0t4cM34Al4wtA=-34.83935459862475=138.4998110442043=17
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Victoria Road*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo=fqlFms86fTiE-ODwBcrHhQ=-34.83792630649351=138.50419954805196=1.874671732287
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The only difference is road type (Road vs Street). But, route [A16] then
>> continues in Semaphore Road, which also looks exactly the same as
>> previous two roads, but it is mapped as Primary Road. This street to me
>> also looks as trunk. Part of Semaphore Road which is not on [A16] route is
>> mapped as *secondary*, but it looks like a *primary* road. In this
>> case, should Semaphore Road be mapped as trunk – primary, instead of
>> primary – secondary?
>>
>
> It's not just the physical condition of the road, but also how important
> that road is from the road network perspective, so generally the more
> traffic the road gets and the more "important" it is in terms of linking
> major centres together, then the higher the classification. So in that way,
> two roads which look the same can 

[OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey OpenData

[Sérgio V .]

Just to share news,
Ordnance Survey OpenData - OS Open Names etc
https://twitter.com/OrdnanceSurvey/status/1153593110129270784?s=20
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/products/opendata.html
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Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS

[Andrew Harvey]

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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 19:55
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS
To: Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) 
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org 


Thanks for the examples.

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 19:27, Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) <
v-maa...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> *Motorway or Trunk: **-38.3999033,145.5370408*
> 
>
>
>
>
> Follow this Mapillary.
>
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-38.3994248999=145.5372489=19.64334424490615=photo=QjkvLvLb1fNa_SNzVpbcgw
>
>
>
>
> This is [M420], motorway which enters the town. Should the part
> through the town be mapped as trunk or to keep it as motorway, because when
> it leaves town it is for sure motorway but in town it does not fulfill the
> description of motorway, also it has traffic signals.
>

According to the OSM wiki highway=motorway is for a controlled access
highway, which wikipedia says:

"A controlled-access highway provides an unhindered flow of traffic, with
no traffic signals ,
intersections  or property
access . They are free of any at-grade
crossings  with other
roads, railways, or pedestrian paths, which are instead carried by
overpasses  and underpasses
. Entrances and exits to the
highway are provided at interchanges
 by slip roads (ramps),
which allow for speed changes between the highway and arterials
 and collector roads
. On the controlled-access
highway, opposing directions of travel are generally separated by a median
strip  or central reservation
containing a traffic barrier  or
grass. Elimination of conflicts with other directions of traffic
dramatically improves safety[1]
 and
capacity."

Based on this, the Bass Highway is trunk not a motorway (it has traffic
lights, roundabouts, it doesn't provide onramp/offramps), so I think you
need to revert your recent tag change to this road, not just for the
sections through towns, but for the whole road.


>
> *Trunk or Primary: **-34.8378323, 138.5029666*
> 
>
>
> We will follow the [A16] route from junction Victoria Road – Nelson
> Street. These two roads are on the same [A16] route. Victoria Road is
> mapped as Trunk, but Nelson Street is set as Primary Road.
> These both roads look almost the same – two separate ways with two or three
> lanes, no barrier in between:
>
>
>
> *Nelson Street*
>
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo=kJLW93dqu0t4cM34Al4wtA=-34.83935459862475=138.4998110442043=17
>
>
>
>
> *Victoria Road*
>
>
>
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo=fqlFms86fTiE-ODwBcrHhQ=-34.83792630649351=138.50419954805196=1.874671732287
>
>
>
>
> The only difference is road type (Road vs Street). But, route [A16] then
> continues in Semaphore Road, which also looks exactly the same as
> previous two roads, but it is mapped as Primary Road. This street to me
> also looks as trunk. Part of Semaphore Road which is not on [A16] route is
> mapped as *secondary*, but it looks like a *primary* road. In this
> case, should Semaphore Road be mapped as trunk – primary, instead of
> primary – secondary?
>

It's not just the physical condition of the road, but also how important
that road is from the road network perspective, so generally the more
traffic the road gets and the more "important" it is in terms of linking
major centres together, then the higher the classification. So in that way,
two roads which look the same can have different classification based on
their importance in the road network.


>
>
> Next case, on [A16] route, *Causeway Road* is definitely a primary road.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://openstreetcam.org/details/1341011/254/track-info
>
>
>
> Further on, [A16] continues to *Bower Road*, which looks like a trunk
> road, but it’s mapped as a primary.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo=_jlpimXN_-a17Mt8E92wRg=-34.852086664809406=138.49658016539593=17
>
>
>
>
> These all roads are on the same [A16] route.
>
>
>
> If we compare what is written here
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway with M, A, B, C routes
> then we find that A route, in most cases, primarily consists of trunks.
> Putting Causeway Road on a side, all other 

Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS

[Andrew Harvey]

me? Actually I myself have done very little mapping in VIC, so don't have
the local knowledge there.

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On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 21:21, Phil Wyatt  wrote:

> I suggest you point Andrew to some areas of concern before any reversions.
> He is a prolific mapper in Victoria (and many other areas).
>
>
> Cheers - Phil,
> On the road with his iPad
>
> On 23 Jul 2019, at 9:12 pm, Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au <
> talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply,
>
>
>
> I haven't followed Wiki blindly because it can be contradictory sometimes,
> that's the reason why I'm asking these questions here. Also, I think that
> gov routes are there to indicate importance of the road and flow of traffic.
>
>
>
> I would personally wait for couple of more opinions regarding this before
> reverting suggested road classification. If there are any local mapper for
> these areas It would be great if they could turn into conversation to give
> an opinion?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aleksandar
>
>
>
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Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Disclaimer: I never was in Australia
22 Jul 2019, 16:50 by talk-au@openstreetmap.org:
>
>
>  1. Do you change the classification of highway on the motorway route into 
> trunk through the city because it does not have a physical barrier in between 
> (not restricted access) or do you keep it as motorway because of consistency?
>
>
>
Yes, highway=motorway should not appear in roads without even dual
carriageway.
>
> 2. If we were to change the road classification several times during one 
> route way, should we ignore segments that are less than 3km (for example 
> motorway going through minor city in which it has a quality of trunk)? 
>
>
I would change classification, but
it seems dubious to me that it would be a
motorway.

Specific example would be helpful here.
>
> 3. Can motorway have some traffic signals when passing through city?
>
>
No. Though motorway link
connecting to roads may have traffic
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Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS

[Phil Wyatt]

I suggest you point Andrew to some areas of concern before any reversions. He 
is a prolific mapper in Victoria (and many other areas).


Cheers - Phil, 
On the road with his iPad 

> On 23 Jul 2019, at 9:12 pm, Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reply,
>  
> I haven't followed Wiki blindly because it can be contradictory sometimes, 
> that's the reason why I'm asking these questions here. Also, I think that gov 
> routes are there to indicate importance of the road and flow of traffic.
>  
> I would personally wait for couple of more opinions regarding this before 
> reverting suggested road classification. If there are any local mapper for 
> these areas It would be great if they could turn into conversation to give an 
> opinion?
>  
> Thanks,
> Aleksandar
>  
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Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS

[Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au]

Thanks for the reply,

I haven't followed Wiki blindly because it can be contradictory sometimes, 
that's the reason why I'm asking these questions here. Also, I think that gov 
routes are there to indicate importance of the road and flow of traffic.

I would personally wait for couple of more opinions regarding this before 
reverting suggested road classification. If there are any local mapper for 
these areas It would be great if they could turn into conversation to give an 
opinion?

Thanks,
Aleksandar


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[Talk-GB] Nottingham/East Midlands pub meeting tonight 23rd July

[SK53]

The July pub meetup for Nottingham and/or East Midlands will be tonight at
the Lincolnshire Poacher Nottingham:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup.

Mapping from 18:30, meet at Left Lion in the Market Square. I have hurt by
big toe so might not be actively mapping tonight.

Apologies for not updating the page until today, but have been away for the
past couple of weeks.

Jerry
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] End of an era at The Bull

[Andy Robinson]

That whole area is set to change. Lots of fond memories with Rose at the helm. 
See will be sorely missed. Thanks for posting.

Cheers
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Andy Mabbett [mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk] 
Sent: 22 July 2019 20:49
To: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] End of an era at The Bull

We've often held our winter meetings at The Bull, on Price Street in
Birmingham. I have just seen this announcement on Facebook;

"Today is Rose’s last day as landlady at The Bull.

"The new landlord will be taking over tomorrow.

"On Friday evening Rose will be at the pub if anyone would like to
come and see her, best thing about is it she won’t be working."

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Re: [Talk-es] Contenedor Docker para CatAtom2Osm

[Emilio Gómez Fernández]

Sí, por supuesto. Aquí le tienes:

https://github.com/egofer/dockerfiles/blob/master/catatom2osm/Dockerfile

Saludos.

El mar., 23 jul. 2019 a las 0:33, Javier Sánchez Portero (<
javiers...@gmail.com>) escribió:

> Gracias Emilio por el trabajo. Sin duda muy útil para facilitar el uso del
> programa.
> ¿Podrías compartir el archivo Dockerfile?
>
> Saludos.
>
> El sáb., 13 jul. 2019 a las 19:47, jmiguel sancho ()
> escribió:
>
>> Gran idea, gracias por el trabajo
>>
>> El sáb., 13 jul. 2019 15:10, Emilio Gómez Fernández <
>> emilio.gomez.f...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>
>>> Upp! El enlace correcto:
>>> https://hub.docker.com/r/egofer/catatom2osm
>>>
>>> El sáb., 13 jul. 2019 a las 12:43, Emilio Gómez Fernández (<
>>> emilio.gomez.f...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>>>
 Hola a todos.

 Dado que a algunos nos estaba dando problemas CatAtom2Osm, le he
 dedicado un poco de tiempo libre y he subido una imagen a Docker Hub [1]
 para poder crear un contenedor con CatATom2Osm y todos lo requisitos
 necesarios para poder ejecutarlo sin problemas.

 [1] https://cloud.docker.com/repository/docker/egofer/catatom2osm

 Un saludo.

 Emilio Gómez

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Re: [talk-au] Road classification in AUS

[Andrew Harvey]

Do you have any examples of some of the roads in question? Could you link
to those please?

On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 00:51, Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au <
talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My name is Aleksandar Matejevic, I work for Microsoft OSM Editorial team.
> In order to make the best decision in classifying roads across Australia, I
> need some help.
>
> In government data and on signposts you can find on mapillary and/or open
> street cam, you can track route numbers. I found out that routes mostly
> consist of:
>
> M route – motorways
>
> A route – trunks
>
> B route – primary roads
>
> C route - secondary roads
>
> As long you map in non-urban area this is 99.99% true, but when you map
> into city area it starts to get confusing.
>
> On this wiki page *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highways_in_Australia
> * there is no real
> explanation how to classify AUS roads in OSM
>
> If you strictly follow this page: 
> *https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
> * than you should change
> road classification several times on the same route way.
>
> Therefore I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Do you change the classification of highway on the motorway route into
> trunk through the city because it does not have a physical barrier in
> between (not restricted access) or do you keep it as motorway because of
> consistency?
>
> 2. If we were to change the road classification several times during one
> route way, should we ignore segments that are less than 3km (for example
> motorway going through minor city in which it has a quality of trunk)?
>
> 3. Can motorway have some traffic signals when passing through city?
>
> 4. How to classify State routes (for example in Melbourne)?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Aleksandar
>
>
>
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