[talk-ph] Marawi City: post war mapping

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi,

The war in Marawi City, Lanao DelNorte started on May 23, 2017 between 
terrorist groups and Government troops.After 5 months of fighting, the 
Government has officially announced today theend of all military operations.  
This warhas displaced more than thousands of people and has left the city 
heavily damaged and destroyed particularly inside the main battle area.  

As OSM volunteers we have seen how our effortshave been useful and helpful 
during a crisis. In the case of the case of the war Marawi, wecould help out in 
digiziting satellite imagery and provide maps that will supportGovernment, 
NGO’s, Aid organizations and other related groups in their workthat is focused 
on the assistance of its residents and in the recovery,reconstruction and 
rehabilitation of Marawi City.
Ihave initially talked to OSM members like Ervin, Erwin and Manning about this 
and I am also sharing it here to OSMmembers for us to discuss what we can do. I 
am looking forward to hearing yourvaluable inputs.  

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[talk-ph] verifying a road in South Western Palawan

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi all,
Anybody here who can verify the existence of a road that starts from the 
southern most town of Rizal, Palawan that passes tru the western side towards 
the town of Canipaan? This road is reflected in Bing maps as "Buliluyan-Taburi 
Coastal road" . OSM data does not reflect this road and that is why any field 
information about it would be very helpful.
Thanks in advance!
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Re: [talk-ph] Forest landcover

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi, 

I think it is OK to extend the tree cover areas if the basis of mapping is the 
present forest land cover. The mapped areas would be actually close to what is 
existing on the ground.

On a related note. I just observed that some mapped ares of existing land use = 
forest, were based on elevation data rather than the actual extent of the 
forest cover.  Although there is a relationship between the type of vegetation 
that can be present in a given elevation range, I think it is not always 
automatic that the area of the forest cover boundary would follow the line 
boundary of a specific elevation.  

--bunny


On Thursday, 4 February 2016, 19:33, Eugene Alvin Villar  
wrote:
 

 I agree. I actually admire the detailed landcover areas found in many
places in Europe in OSM and I can't see how such a level of detail
would be problematic here in the Philippines.

As for the saw-tooth coastlines, I'm actually surprised they still
exist to a large degree since we did a mini-project back in 2010 to
improve those coastlines:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Coastline_corrections

~Eugene

On 2/4/16, Ronny Ager-Wick  wrote:
> I'm not an authority on this, but I can't see a reason why not. The current
> lines are unlikely to be accurate the way you describe them and matches what
> I've seen elsewhere in the Philippines.
> Ronny.
>
> On 2016-02-02 18:17, David Groom wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Firstly let me introduce myself, I'm based in the UK.  I've been involed
>> with
>> OSM pretty much from the start, (I attended the first ever mapping party),
>> was
>> responsible for a large part of the original worldwide coastline import,
>> spent a lot of time fixing coastline errors, did most of the original
>> mapping
>> of Baghdad from Bing & Yahoo imagery, and have done of lot of other mappng
>> from imagery worldwide, as well as mapping from my own GPX tracks here in
>> th
>> UK and wherever I vacation.
>>
>> I have recently started mapping parts of Leyte. Initially focusing on some
>> of
>> the smaller scale mapping ( tracing builings etc) .
>>
>> I then noticed that some areas of coastline on the west of the island
>> needed
>> updating from imagery since it had the typical "saw-tooth" effect
>> resulting
>> from imports of coastline data. so have been working on that.  I'm not
>> finished yet!
>>
>> Anyway, the purpose of my post to the list is to ask about landuse =
>> forest
>> areas.  If you look at the central part of Leyte some large areas have
>> been
>> mapped and tagged for the forest, but :
>>
>> (1) these seem to have arbitary boundaries (long strainght lines where the
>> areas simply have not been accuarely mapped to any natural feature)
>>
>> (2) The areas so far mapped with tree cover (either "natural = wood", or
>> "landuse = forest" represent a smnall proportion of the actual forest
>> cover on
>> the island.
>>
>> My question is, is it OK if as I map other things I extend the tree cover
>> areas .  This may result in a large part of Leyte "turning green" on the
>> map.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David Groom
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Re: [talk-ph] Orienteering in the Philippines

[Leonard Soriano]

Count me in.
On a related note, for those who are in to the sport, there will be an 
orienteering competition on December 6 in the province of 
Rizal.http://mitmc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/poster1.jpg

--bunny

 


 On Tuesday, 29 September 2015, 20:41, maning sambale 
 wrote:
   

 Dear Murray,

You need to subscribe to be able to post.  Anyway, forwarded to the
list already.
I think we can collaborate on a lot of things.

@osm-ph, this is an interesting possibility.


On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Murray Cowan
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to send the message below but it got blocked - can you help please?
>
> thanks,
>
> Murray Cowan
>
>
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> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:06:11 +0800
> Subject: Orienteering in the Philippines
> Hi,
>
> reaching out to the Open Street Mappers to see if there is any interest in
> meeting to discuss production of orienteering maps using the OSM data.
>
> Sport orienteering is a new sport to the Philippines and we really need maps
> :-)  There has been some navigation type activities before and presently
> which are similar to orienteering but not quite the same.
>
> Hope to hear from you and maybe we can meet up somewhere convenient in
> Manila.
> Would also love to hear from anyone in the community from other parts of the
> Philippines like Baguio, Cebu and Davao - and more ...
>
> kind regards,
>
> Murray Cowan
>
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[talk-ph] Philippine Heritage Map

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi Folks,
Sharing this inventory of cultural properties and historic events across the 
Philippines.  I think this project and OSM can both compliment.
--bunny

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Re: [talk-ph] DAICHI/ALOS derived 30m DEM available to the public

[Leonard Soriano]

It will be also interesting to compare this product with the 30m DEM of SRTM 
and Aster.
--bunny
 


 On Tuesday, 23 June 2015, 11:42, maning sambale 
 wrote:
   

 FYI,
Might be of interest to those doing topographic mapping.

DAICHI/ALOS derived 30m DEM available to the public:
http://www.eorc.jaxa.jp/ALOS/en/aw3d30/index.htm



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Re: [talk-ph] Roads to Baler

[Leonard Soriano]

Maning,
The road via Pantabangan is the main road use going to Baler by buses and cars. 
The road via Bongabon, will pass tru Sierra Madre and along this road, there is 
a memorial marker for Aurora Quezon (wife of Pres. Quezon). This route is 
scenic but some parts are prone to landslide. And due to the road condition 
several years ago, a 4x4  car was more suitable to use.
--bunny 


 On Wednesday, 17 June 2015, 14:36, Ervin Malicdem  
wrote:
   

 I haven't been to Baler through Bongabon (only through Pantabangan) but a 
follower in my blog suggested that it is better that the GPS map routes to 
Pantabangan instead of Bongabon. Judging from his suggestion, Pantabangan might 
be better to be a trunk than the one through Bongabon. Ervin Malicdem
for Schadow1 Expeditions 
a Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. 
http://www.s1expeditions.comOn Jun 17, 2015 1:39 PM, "maning sambale" 
 wrote:

Hi,

I'm improving road geomatery over Baler and surrounding areas:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/15.7367/121.3412

Currently there are two main roads going to Baler. One via Pantabangan
which was marked as highway=primary.  The other one is via Bongabon
which was marked as trunk.  Both have very good GPS tracks.  But
looking at the surface from imagery, it seems the Pantabangan route is
better.

I haven't been to Baler so I'm wondering which road is better (by car)
routing wise.

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Re: [talk-ph] Missing Maps Project

[Leonard Soriano]

Dear Robert,
I am also interested in this project. Perhaps if you are here in Manila next 
month it would be good to organize a meet up where you could share and explain 
possible collaboration work with OSM-PH.
Cheers,
--bunny


 On Saturday, 18 October 2014, 3:27, Eugene Alvin Villar  
wrote:
   

 Hi Robert,

There is a planned project to complete the basic map of the province of Bohol. 
Unlike Cebu, Iloilo, Leyte, and Negros Occidental, more than half of Bohol 
still doesn't have readily available satellite imagery which can help with 
completing the map so either we try to procure imagery for the province or use 
the old-fashioned method of collecting GPS tracks. There was a huge earthquake 
almost exactly a year ago in Bohol and a fairly complete map would have been 
very useful back then.

~Eugene

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Robert Banick  wrote:

Hi Eugene,
Fantastic! We think that all three phases of Missing Maps would work in the 
Philippines, though the exact arrangement would depend on the site(s). There 
are a lot of people here in America who would like to contribute via 
digitization and we want to be open to that. But the real impressive work will 
always happen in the field and in the classroom afterwards when we digitize. To 
the extent possible we want to do as much of our work out of the Philippines as 
we can.
I'll be back in the Philippines later this month and would be delighted to 
speak more with you all about potential opportunities. We're still lining up 
funding and hence can't make any promises yet, but we're very hopeful.
Best,Robert
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

Hi Robert,I'm interested in bringing Missing Maps here in the Philippines. What 
phase of the project do you think would be best done here? If I understand 
correctly, the Missing Maps project can have 3 phases: an initial digitization 
of satellite imagery, then on-the-field data collection (names, etc.), then 
finally inputting the collected data.~Eugene
Hi Jim et al,
I work in GIS for the American Red Cross. We're one of the founding agencies 
behind Missing Maps and are working with the Philippines Red Cross on recovery 
programs for Typhoon Yolanda. We'd be interested in working with OSM-PH on 
Missing Maps collaboations here if there's any interest on your side. We really 
like the idea of partnering with local OSM communities and y'all have really 
built a good one here.
Any takers?

Best,Robert Banick
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Jim Morgan  wrote:

Saw this in the Guardian and thought I'd share it

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/oct/06/missing-maps-human-genome-project-unmapped-cities

Jim

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[talk-ph] Fw: Drones for Good

[Leonard Soriano]

Dear all,

I thought this is worth sharing with the list.

It seems to me that the newly crafted memorandum of CAAP does not support the 
good that drones contribute to mapping. 

cheers,

--bunny





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[talk-ph] Online NAMRIA 1:50k topo maps

[Leonard Soriano]

Discovered this new resource today.

http://www.namria.gov.ph/topo50Index.aspx


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[talk-ph] UNOSAT maps of Typhoon Yolanda

[Leonard Soriano]

Available maps focusing on the towns of Dulag and Tabontabon, Leyte.

http://www.unitar.org/unosat/node/44/1859

http://www.unitar.org/unosat/node/44/1858

http://www.unitar.org/unosat/node/44/1857
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Re: [talk-ph] video mapping

[Leonard Soriano]

In synchronizing a GPS and digital camera before going out to the field,  I do 
this manually. I set the time of the camera as sync as possible with the GPS.  

Probably it might be the same process for video cameras. Video mapping might 
require a more perfect timing because since you are moving relatively fast, a 
difference in time between the two hardware could result to a mismatch of GPS 
coordinate and the captured video.

--bunny




 From: Jim Morgan 
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] video mapping
 

maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 25 September, 2013 11:02 PM:
> Nice article by Ervin on video mapping.
> http://www.s1expeditions.com/2013/09/102-videomapping.html?m=1
> I didnt know its possible to add gps coordinates as subtitles in a video.

That is interesting. I'd probably seen that GPSbabel could export in SRT 
format, but it didn't occur to me that this was subtitles as it was out of 
context. Question: how do you get the timing of the video and GPX to 
sychronise? For a start you'd have to make sure the video recording device and 
the gpx recording device had their time set the same. Do you sync them up just 
by switching them on at the same time, or is there a way to embed the time in 
the video? GPX has time information included of course.

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Re: [talk-ph] recommended csv format

[Leonard Soriano]

Also to add a bit even it may sound obvious. For easier plotting of the 
coordinates , the lat/long field should be in Decimal Degrees format.

--bunny



 From: maning sambale 
To: osm-ph  
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] recommended csv format
 

The problem with lat,long is that it will be confusing when you plot
it in a cartesian plane.
Mathematics convention is x,y (hence long,lat) and this becomes more
confusing if you use a projected coordinate system like UTM (Easting,
Northing).

For a bit of history, the lat, long order came from its roots in sea
navigation.  During those days (where there are no GPS or even marine
chronometer) only latitude (north and south) could be measured with
great accuracy.

My suggestion, stick to the one you prefer and use it consistently.




On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
> I also used lat-long ever since.  My GPS devices displays them in that
> order, downloads them in that order too.  my android GPS apps (GPS
> Essentials, One Touch Location, etc) displays them in that order too.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Wayne Manuel  wrote:
>>
>> Personally, I prefer lat-long. Easier to tell people that it should be
>> alphabetical. And that at least in the PHL, the smaller number comes before
>> the bigger number.
>>
>> Also, when copying latitude longitude from Google Maps urls (the ll
>> parameter), it's lat long.
>>
>> When you want to quickly check where your lat longs are, you can just
>> paste it into the Google Maps search box as lat,long
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne Manuel
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Rally de Leon  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Which is the more common / preferred format for csv
>>> lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the other?
>>> (eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS softwares)
>>>
>>> If I am to recommend to ordinary people a free conversion utility, which
>>> one? (my 2 preferred utility have different csv format)
>>>
>>> If i use "gpsbabel's" generic (Comma separated values) option (eg. kml to
>>> csv conversion)---> gpsbabel -w -i kml -f filename.kml -o csv -F
>>> filename.csv
>>> csv will be in this order---> lat,long,name
>>>
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>>> http://choonchernlim.com/kmlcsv/ )
>>> kml to csv conversion will give you---> long,lat,name
>>>
>>> KMLCSV is very easy to use and allows ordinary people to view the POI's
>>> on built-in google maps for quick verification. easy to install, easy to
>>> distribute, virtually idiot-proof.
>>>
>>> GPSBabel is universal, has gui and  command line, but has too many
>>> option-buttons that can be confusing for ordinary user.
>>>
>>> or is there a way gpsbabel can convert (kml to csv) or (osm to csv) in
>>> long,lat,name csv format?
>>>
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>>> Rally
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Re: [talk-ph] "3D" OSM

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Husay ng detalye. Pati yung "fertility tree" sa LB nasama.

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 From: maning sambale 
To: osm-ph  
Sent: Friday, 21 June 2013 10:37 AM
Subject: [talk-ph] "3D" OSM
 

UPLB - Nice work by Ian Lopez on the buildings, fences, fountains and trees
http://map.f4-group.com/#lon=13496735&lat=1593388&zoom=19&camera.theta=67.739&camera.phi=156.36

Quiapo -  Building levels collected by local church volunteers.  The
Quiapo Church itself looks very low since we only collected
building:level and not actual height.
http://map.f4-group.com/#lon=13467844&lat=1643086&zoom=19&camera.theta=80&camera.phi=-5.454

Makati - CBD doesn't look very high-rise. :)
http://map.f4-group.com/#lon=13472457&lat=1637534&zoom=18&camera.theta=71.635&camera.phi=51.212

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM session at the National Remote Sensing Conference on May 29, 2013

[Leonard Soriano]

Willing ako to help out kung ano man. email lang ang details.

--bunny



 From: maning sambale 
To: Eugene Alvin Villar  
Cc: osm-ph  
Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM session at the National Remote Sensing Conference on 
May 29, 2013
 

Thanks again Eugene.
I talked the organizer and they said its up to us if we want a half or
full day workshop.  They are providing a conference room so
participants should bring along their own machine.

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
> I'll see if I can take a leave from work for this.
>
> Rally, can you help out too?
>
> Others, would you be interested in helping out with this whole-day workshop?
>
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM, maning sambale 
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear everyone,
>>
>> We are invited to manage a workshop on OSM at the
>> PhilRSS National Remote Sensing Conference on May 29, 2013.
>>
>> Sorry for the very short as I got this email a few minutes ago.
>> I can't join due to some scheduled conflict.  If anyone wants to manage
>> this,
>> I'll put you in touch with the organizer.
>>
>> Draft website
>> here:http://philrss.noahsark.webfactional.com/nrsc2013/preconference
>>
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[talk-ph] Typhoon Pablo Unitar-Unosat Map

[Leonard Soriano]

http://www.unitar.org/unosat/node/44/1701
http://unosat-maps.web.cern.ch/unosat-maps/PH/TC20121205PHL/UNOSAT_A3_TRMM_071212_PHL_v1.pdf
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Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Pablo (Bopha)

[Leonard Soriano]

I could just assume it will be print maps that will be useful. NDRMC regularly 
releases an update bulletin. The conversion of these tables to map form 
requires a quick  turnaround. 



 From: Mikel Maron 
To: Leonard Soriano ; maning sambale 
; osm-ph  
Cc: Kate Chapman  
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Pablo (Bopha)
 

What sort of map products will be useful to responders? Custom web maps? Print 
maps?
Someone in the HOT community might be able to help...
 
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


>
> From: Leonard Soriano 
>To: maning sambale ; osm-ph 
> 
>Cc: Kate Chapman ; Mikel Maron 
> 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:31 PM
>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Pablo (Bopha)
> 
>
>
>
>Hi Maning,
>
>
>NDRMC website has a lot of information about Typhoon Pablo but all of it is in 
>tabular format. (eg. affected provinces, municipalities, casualties, damaged 
>houses, etc etc).. One possible mapping work that we could do is to visualize 
>these tabular data in forms of maps. It is easier to understand these types of 
>information if it were in the form of maps. But I am also thinking on how we 
>can disseminate the map once we finish them. 
>
>
>
>--bunny
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: maning sambale 
>To: osm-ph  
>Cc: Kate Chapman ; Mikel Maron 
> 
>Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 11:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Pablo (Bopha)
> 
>Dear everyone,
>
>Collecting some news related to the recent Typhoon Pablo/Bopha.
>Provinces that was heavily affected are Compostela Valley and Davao
>del Norte [0].
>
>There are several crowdsourcing mapping initiatives happening around,
>I listed them and other map resources in my blog [1].
>
>If you are interested to participate in some initiatives, I urge you
>to join the Crisis Mapper's Standby Task Force for geolocating and
>classifying tweets and photos which will be used for UN's disaster
>response [2 and 3].
>
>Related to OSM, most of what was covered by Bing in Eastern Mindanao
>has a good coverage for roads.  However, one important natural feature
>we sorely lack in these areas are natural features like rivers
 which
>are
 important data for such kind of disasters.  I encourage you all to
>include river and waterways in your mapping list.
>
>Of course there is the usual donations for relief operations.
>
>[0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.358&lon=126.259&zoom=11&layers=M
>[1] http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2012/12/04/typhoon-pablo-bopha-map-sources/
>[2] http://irevolution.net/2012/12/05/help-microtask-pablo/
>[3] 
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArYTPzrmJuWWdGZjb2ZXSTluaFQ3cko3S2k1dllNbVE#gid=4
>
>
>On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:09 AM, maning sambale
> wrote:
>> Thanks for reminding jgc.
>>
>> I found an area
 whom I suspect as a small-scale mining operation and
>> potentially a geohazard area:
>>
>> http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#7.818396,126.184979,17
>>
>> (Select osm.arkemie.org as the satellite layer)
>>
>> Can someone familiar with the area confirm?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton  
>> wrote:
>>>
 Le 04/12/2012 03:01, maning sambale a écrit :
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Hope all are mappers in Visayas and Mindanao are safe and dry.  If you
>>>> need help with remote mapping, let us know.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> For what is worth, this is a reminder that there is a strip of OrbView-3
>>> imagery available over part of Compostela Valley, east of New Bataan,
>>> that includes areas not covered by Bing in high resolution, and covers
>>> some roads and villages unmapped in OSM.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>> http://osm.arkemie.org/ousm/philippines/?zoom=14&lat=7.55219&lon=126.12762&layers=0B00TFFTF
>>>
>>> JOSM TMS URL :
>>> tms:http://osm.arkemie.org/cgi-bin/tiles/1.0.0/philippines/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes to affected people,
>>>
>>> Jean-Guilhem
>>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Pablo (Bopha)

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi Maning,

NDRMC website has a lot of information about Typhoon Pablo but all of it is in 
tabular format. (eg. affected provinces, municipalities, casualties, damaged 
houses, etc etc).. One possible mapping work that we could do is to visualize 
these tabular data in forms of maps. It is easier to understand these types of 
information if it were in the form of maps. But I am also thinking on how we 
can disseminate the map once we finish them. 


--bunny





 From: maning sambale 
To: osm-ph  
Cc: Kate Chapman ; Mikel Maron  
Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Pablo (Bopha)
 
Dear everyone,

Collecting some news related to the recent Typhoon Pablo/Bopha.
Provinces that was heavily affected are Compostela Valley and Davao
del Norte [0].

There are several crowdsourcing mapping initiatives happening around,
I listed them and other map resources in my blog [1].

If you are interested to participate in some initiatives, I urge you
to join the Crisis Mapper's Standby Task Force for geolocating and
classifying tweets and photos which will be used for UN's disaster
response [2 and 3].

Related to OSM, most of what was covered by Bing in Eastern Mindanao
has a good coverage for roads.  However, one important natural feature
we sorely lack in these areas are natural features like rivers which
are important data for such kind of disasters.  I encourage you all to
include river and waterways in your mapping list.

Of course there is the usual donations for relief operations.

[0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.358&lon=126.259&zoom=11&layers=M
[1] http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2012/12/04/typhoon-pablo-bopha-map-sources/
[2] http://irevolution.net/2012/12/05/help-microtask-pablo/
[3] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArYTPzrmJuWWdGZjb2ZXSTluaFQ3cko3S2k1dllNbVE#gid=4


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:09 AM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> Thanks for reminding jgc.
>
> I found an area whom I suspect as a small-scale mining operation and
> potentially a geohazard area:
>
> http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#7.818396,126.184979,17
>
> (Select osm.arkemie.org as the satellite layer)
>
> Can someone familiar with the area confirm?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton  wrote:
>> Le 04/12/2012 03:01, maning sambale a écrit :
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Hope all are mappers in Visayas and Mindanao are safe and dry.  If you
>>> need help with remote mapping, let us know.
>>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> For what is worth, this is a reminder that there is a strip of OrbView-3
>> imagery available over part of Compostela Valley, east of New Bataan,
>> that includes areas not covered by Bing in high resolution, and covers
>> some roads and villages unmapped in OSM.
>>
>> For example:
>> http://osm.arkemie.org/ousm/philippines/?zoom=14&lat=7.55219&lon=126.12762&layers=0B00TFFTF
>>
>> JOSM TMS URL :
>> tms:http://osm.arkemie.org/cgi-bin/tiles/1.0.0/philippines/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.jpg
>>
>>
>> Best wishes to affected people,
>>
>> Jean-Guilhem
>>
>> --
>> gpg 0x5939EAE2
>>
>>
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>
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[talk-ph] LF: GPS repair shop

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi,

Anyone who can recommend a repair shop for Garmin units? Salamat!

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Re: [talk-ph] sendong HOT mapping report

[Leonard Soriano]

related to this report, i came across with this related ppt presentation 

http://www.slideshare.net/mikel_maron/mikelmaron-humanitarianworkshop

--bunny



 From: maning sambale 
To: osm-ph  
Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:58 PM
Subject: [talk-ph] sendong HOT mapping report
 
Sharing with you sendong mapping efforts by the humanitarian osm team:
http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2012-01-25_hot_mapping_for_flash_flood_affected_areas_in_northern_mindanao_philippines

Many things happened behind the scenes especially on the coordination
efforts among relief and international organization to use OSM data.

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Re: [talk-ph] cheap and reliable field data collection equipment

[Leonard Soriano]

Maning,

Personally I think the Garmin Units with built in cameras can be an option.  
These units are more expensive than the other models. It comes with a price but 
it has a relatively big and expandable memory. So potentially it can cut the 
cost of a data logger. It also removes the post-geotagging procedure which 
involves synchronizing the time and embedding the actual GPS coordinates in the 
pictures. This is with the assumption, the LGU is willing to buy the more 
expensive GPS model and does not need high resolution pictures. But if they do 
need higher res, the digital cam plus a free geo-tagging software (ex. easygps) 
can do the job.

--bunny




 From: Jim Morgan 
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] cheap and reliable field data collection equipment
 
maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 18 January, 2012 03:42 PM:
>  - data logger and digital cam - photos can be synchronized with gps
> tracks, has long battery life suitable for long fieldwork

I believe all you have to do is make sure that the camera time and date is set 
accurately and you can use the captured time and date of the photo to associate 
it with the GPX file. 

>  - a cheap droid phone - all in one device for fieldnotes,
> phototagging and gps tracklogging, limited battery life.  Jim
> mentioned a while ago Cherry mobile cosmo [0].  @Jim, based on your
> experience, do still suggest we look at this phone?

The camera is not so good (wasn't really expecting it to be in fact), so it 
would only be good for shots in daylight, and when the detail wasn't 
imperative. Battery life might be an issue, so you'd need to pack an external 
power source or have a method of recharging. But yes, its still working as 
advertised, and does anything Android will let it do. 

Finding one app to do everything would be tricky, so it might be a bit fiddly 
switching between mapping and photo app. 

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Re: [talk-ph] mapping news/pr0n: AusAid donates 3D disaster map of Manila to NDRRMC

[Leonard Soriano]

In PRINCIPLE, by the least i think the output products (maps,3d data,etc)  
should be shared to civil society.


--bunny




From: maning sambale 
To: osm-ph 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011 6:49 PM
Subject: [talk-ph] mapping news/pr0n: AusAid donates 3D disaster map of Manila 
to NDRRMC

Would they share this to the public?

3d map of Metro Manila using Lidar:

AusAid donates 3D disaster map of Manila to NDRRMC

Almost two years after the destructive typhoon Ondoy wrought havoc on
Metro Manila, the country can now be more prepared for similar
disasters thanks to a high-resolution geohazard map granted by the
Australian government to the Philippines.

Under a P260 million grant awarded by the Australian Government
Overseas Aid Program (AusAID) and Geoscience Australia, a
high-resolution 1,300-square kilometer map of Metro Manila has been
turned over to the National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management
Council (NDRRMC) and the National Mapping and Resource Information
Authority (NAMRIA) on Friday.

newslink: 
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/232621/technology/ausaid-donates-3d-disaster-map-of-manila-to-ndrrmc

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Re: [talk-ph] map with geo-tagged photos

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi Rem,

Nice example.Simple but effective. It would be good if lines could also be part 
of the visible features.

--bunny
--- On Tue, 5/7/11, Noli Sicad  wrote:

> From: Noli Sicad 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] map with geo-tagged photos
> To: "rem zamora" 
> Cc: "osm-ph" 
> Received: Tuesday, 5 July, 2011, 9:39 AM
> Finally, found good example with
> OpenLayers with Popup Photo.
> 
> http://gis.ibbeck.de/ginfo/apps/OLExamples/OL26/examples/styles_unique_with_group.html
> 
> The blue pentagons have slide / photo popup. Click it to
> view.
> 
> BTW, jQuery works well with OpenLayers.
> 
> View source to see how it is implemented.
> 
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[talk-ph] Who to feed? The open vs. the commercial race for data

[Leonard Soriano]

Very true and interesting article. Kudos to openstreetmap. 

http://www.crisscrossed.net/2011/05/12/who-to-feed-the-open-vs-the-commercial-race-for-data/

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Re: [talk-ph] Recording POI's with a camera

[Leonard Soriano]

one procedure to do before leaving for your trip is to try to synchronize the 
time of the digital camera  with the GPS. this will be helpful when the 
pictures are being geo-tagged.

cheers,

--bunny

--- On Tue, 15/3/11, tutubi  wrote:

> From: tutubi 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Recording POI's with a camera
> To: "Ian Haylock" 
> Cc: "Openstreetmap Philippines" 
> Received: Tuesday, 15 March, 2011, 3:56 AM
> geotaggging, something i was looking
> for last year but found the
> add-on expensive
> 
> i did some sort of crude mapping last weekend. while
> looking for some
> shops on Roosevelt Ave, QC, i took pictures of the road and
> signages
> so that i don't have to make mental notes...
> several shops visited while wifey did some shopping...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/15/11, Ian Haylock 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > You probably know this already, but I only discovered
> it a few weeks ago.
> >
> > I knew if you had a digital camera with GPS that you
> could load pictures
> > from it into JOSM and the would apear at the correct
> location on the map.
> >
> > What I did not realize was that you can also use a
> digital camera even if it
> > doesn't have a built in GPS receiver. This is because
> the camera records the
> > time that the picture was taken.
> >
> > To make this work you need to start your GPS
> recording. Then just take
> > photo's of any POI's that take your fancy.
> > When you get home load the recorded track into JOSM.
> > Then right click on the GPS layer (in the layer list),
> and import the
> > photo's you took on the trip.
> > The POI photo's are then imported at the correct
> location on the map.
> > If the locations are slightly off, they can be
> manually adjusted, by
> > adjusting the time offset.
> >
> > This could save a lot of note taking on mapping
> parties, as you could just
> > take a photo of a road, and later use that to enter
> details of road type,
> > surface type, etc.
> >
> > I find this technique works well riding shotgun in a
> car when on some
> > mundane trip  to the supermarket,as it enables me
> to record subdivision
> > names, road names, etc without having to stop at each
> location.
> >
> > Cheers Ian
> >
> 
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Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers

[Leonard Soriano]

Maning,

--- On Thu, 17/2/11, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers
> To: "Leonard Soriano" 
> Cc: "Eugene Alvin Villar" , "rem zamora" 
> , talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> Received: Thursday, 17 February, 2011, 4:28 AM
> Bunny,
> 
> We have a few mountain trails already added in OSM. 
> Most mountain
> peaks are also there (coming from GNS so this needs
> correction).
> Using the default map and contour, I believe this is useful
> already
> for mountaineers.
> 
> What we need from the mountaineers are:
>  - more trail/hiking data along with the trail classes
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale)
>  - location of peaks/viewpoints/trail stops and other
> amenities
> 
> I don't know if UPM or other mountaineering groups are
> aware of our
> project or the osmph garmin maps.  We can of course
> design a garmin
> map for them, all we need are inputs on how they classify
> trails.
> Perhaps we can have a session with these group to share how
> to
> contribute in osm and then compile their own maps?
>

I think given the accessibility of GPS units now compared before, a lot of 
people in the outdoor community are aware of this technology. We need to find a 
way to inform the existence of OSM garmin maps and how the outdoor community 
can contribute. Through e-groups is already an easy way for this.

Good idea of having a GPS/trail mapping/workshop/skill share or whatever we 
call it. I think we could talk to ROX about this. There is a regular discussion 
of outdoor topics such as first aid, trail running, kayaking, etc that they 
organize in their store. I think proposing a skill share on GPS for outdoor 
people and mountaineering groups in collaboration with ROX fits in well. 

--bunny
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Leonard Soriano
> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Eugene,
> >
> > Magandang project yan! This is actually important as
> it can be used not only for recreation purposes but even for
> search and rescue efforts.
> >
> > I am thinking, if we could start on a case site like a
> national park that is frequently visited by  visitors both
> seasoned and not seasoned climbers. For example Mt. Pulag
> National Park. Given the traffic it gets the whole year, the
> benefits of having a gps map of the park complete with trail
> and waypoints has a very high potential.  For the past
> years, I was doing trail survey data with the UP
> Mountaineers and we have covered Ambangeg/Ambaguio/Akiki/
> and just recently Tinoc trail.
> >
> > For those people who might be interested, a DRAFT
> result of the trail survey can be downloaded from this
> link:
> >
> > https://www.yousendit.com/download/MzZFblFKbWdoeVpjR0E9PQ
> > password: @MtPNP_Draft
> >
> > The trails are already in OSM and some of the
> waypoints.
> >
> > For the contour data, I do have a digital files based
> from NAMRIA 1:50K topo maps and if our mappers would want to
> compile this, I can upload it somewhere for downloads.
> >
> > Napapanahon itong idea na ito.
> >
> > --bunny
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 16/2/11, rem zamora 
> wrote:
> >
> > From: rem zamora 
> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor
> lovers
> > To: "Eugene Alvin Villar" 
> > Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> > Received: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011, 4:18 PM
> >
> > eugene,
> > you got my point exactly!
> > been climbing mountains myself recently. last data
> uploaded by me in osm was trail to summit in kanlaon via
> guintubdan trail. trail tracks are very useful particularly
> in the outdoors. you need not rely 100 percent on the gps
> but i feel safer with this info uploaded to my gps.
> > this is also helpful in search and rescue operations
> particularly in the mountains where road maps are not that
> important. we need topo maps in these mountains plus trail
> maps and waypoints.
> > i still havent uploaded my waypoints but i usually
> save campsites, water source, rest stops, and other
> important points along the trail sucj as landmarks. and of
> course the summits. (so when i hike with people who keep on
> asking "are we there yet?" i can easily say we are about so
> and so kilometers away and it will take us about so and so
> hours hehe) was able to do this during recent climb to pulag
> :)
> > anyway i hope you guys (the compilers) hear me on
> this. :) i dont know if i can learn the process but you can
> rely on me for data gathering :)
> > rem
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Vil

Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers

[Leonard Soriano]

Eugene, 

Magandang project yan! This is actually important as it can be used not only 
for recreation purposes but even for search and rescue efforts.

I am thinking, if we could start on a case site like a national park that is 
frequently visited by  visitors both seasoned and not seasoned climbers. For 
example Mt. Pulag National Park. Given the traffic it gets the whole year, the 
benefits of having a gps map of the park complete with trail and waypoints has 
a very high potential.  For the past years, I was doing trail survey data with 
the UP Mountaineers and we have covered Ambangeg/Ambaguio/Akiki/ and just 
recently Tinoc trail.

For those people who might be interested, a DRAFT result of the trail survey 
can be downloaded from this link:

https://www.yousendit.com/download/MzZFblFKbWdoeVpjR0E9PQ
password: @MtPNP_Draft

The trails are already in OSM and some of the waypoints.

For the contour data, I do have a digital files based from NAMRIA 1:50K topo 
maps and if our mappers would want to compile this, I can upload it somewhere 
for downloads.

Napapanahon itong idea na ito.

--bunny



--- On Wed, 16/2/11, rem zamora  wrote:

From: rem zamora 
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers
To: "Eugene Alvin Villar" 
Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Received: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011, 4:18 PM

eugene,
you got my point exactly!
been climbing mountains myself recently. last data uploaded by me in osm was 
trail to summit in kanlaon via guintubdan trail. trail tracks are very useful 
particularly in the outdoors. you need not rely 100 percent on the gps but i 
feel safer with this info uploaded to my gps.

this is also helpful in search and rescue operations particularly in the 
mountains where road maps are not that important. we need topo maps in these 
mountains plus trail maps and waypoints. 

i still havent uploaded my waypoints but i usually save campsites, water 
source, rest stops, and other important points along the trail sucj as 
landmarks. and of course the summits. (so when i hike with people who keep on 
asking "are we there yet?" i can easily say we are about so and so kilometers 
away and it will take us about so and so hours hehe) was able to do this during 
recent climb to pulag :)

anyway i hope you guys (the compilers) hear me on this. :) i dont know if i can 
learn the process but you can rely on me for data gathering :)
rem


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

Well, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually DIY! The

Garmin maps are compiled using mkgmap and you just need the raw OSM

data (Geofabrik provides Philippine data extracts), the contour data

(maybe Maning can share his data, but they were made using Groundtruth

from NASA's SRTM data), and mkgmap itself (plus some learning time).



But, we could additionally adopt your suggestion and consider adding

another Garmin map download which has the consolidated contours for

selected mountaineering peaks, and make the hiking/trekking trails

more prominent. A mountaineer's map anyone?



Hmmm, thinking about it, I actually like the idea! Instead of

targeting only the car owners with the OSM Garmin map, we could also

"expand the market" and target also the mountaineering clubs. A Garmin

map that still contains roads (so the mountaineers can drive to the

base camps and jump-off points) plus prominent hiking trails and

contours would be a perfect addition. And if this map becomes popular,

then we have another potential source of contributors who can map the

rural and mountainous areas. :-D





On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, rem zamora  wrote:

> hey! just thinking aloud here. i know we have our osm map. and we also have

> the 10m elevation contour map of the country. what if... we can consolidate

> the two. in maning's page (http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin)

> there is already an osm map with contour. i havent checked it yet but the

> note says it is only metro manila map and it might get too cluttered.

> maybe, we can, put osm map for the whole country, and then put contour maps

> for special places/mountains like apo, kanlaon, pulag, mayon, et.al. im not

> sure how this can be implemented but maybe, just maybe there is a way to put

> contour maps (just for certain areas where it can be useful) with street

> maps from osm.

> this will eliminate me having to put two maps in my gpsr and

> enabling/disabling the mamp whic is needed/not needed.

> just a suggestion guys :)

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Re: [talk-ph] Sun Cruises is using OSM!

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi Jim,

I agree, it was probably just someone who did not know about their policy 
regarding bicycles. 

Regardless of size, both folding and MTB bikes are allowed. To explore or map 
the island, a day trip might not be enough due to the schedule of the boat. 
Practically,you are actually left for just half a day unless you opt to stay 
overnight in the island and continue to the next day to explore the place.

regards,

--bunny. 
--- On Thu, 30/12/10, Jim Morgan  wrote:

> From: Jim Morgan 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Sun Cruises is using OSM!
> To: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" 
> Received: Thursday, 30 December, 2010, 2:22 AM
> Leonard Soriano wrote, On Wednesday,
> 29 December, 2010 10:31 PM:
> > Just this year also, I had several friends who brought
> their MTB bikes to Corregidor island using sun cruise.
> Sometimes it depends who you were able to talk to.
> 
> True ... I think I probably dealt with someone who didn't
> have the knowledge or authority to answer me correctly then.
> Or possibly they didn't understand my Brit accent. That
> happens a lot ... :-)
>  
> > Here is an interesting blog of Corregidor travel on
> folding bikes.
> > http://www.thelonerider.com/2010/jan/corregidor/corregidor.shtml
> 
> Interesting. Maybe folding bikes are acceptable whereas the
> big ones are not? I notice as well that the ferry schedule
> isn't very friendly as it caters for the package tourists -
> you only have 4 hours actually on the island, unless you pay
> to stay overnight, and that brings the cost up to 2,000
> pesos or so. 
> 
> Anyway, I'll try again. Maybe I'll enlist the help of my
> girlfriend as translator. 
> 
> Jim
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Re: [talk-ph] Sun Cruises is using OSM!

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi Jim,

Just this year also, I had several friends who brought their MTB bikes to 
Corregidor island using sun cruise. Sometimes it depends who you were able to 
talk to.

Here is an interesting blog of Corregidor travel on folding bikes.
http://www.thelonerider.com/2010/jan/corregidor/corregidor.shtml

--bunny




--- On Wed, 29/12/10, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

> From: Eugene Alvin Villar 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Sun Cruises is using OSM!
> To: "Jim Morgan" 
> Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" 
> Received: Wednesday, 29 December, 2010, 10:54 AM
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Jim
> Morgan 
> wrote:
> > Eugene Alvin Villar wrote, On Wednesday, 29 December,
> 2010 10:54 AM:
> >> I'll try to talk to them and maybe we can finally
> push through with
> >> the Corregidor Mapping Party.
> >
> > I'd definitely be on for that. I talked to Sun Cruises
> last year, and I was trying to figure out a way to get
> mountain bikes across to the island. Their response was a
> flat out "No. You can't take bikes on the boat". I guess
> they make money from the transport and tours the other side.
> Maybe if we talked to them about what we're doing, they'd
> let us loose on the island with bikes, which would make
> things much easier. Maybe they'd also waive the boat fare?
> >
> > Alternately, I heard there's another boat company who
> has trips to Corregidor, but who _will_ let bikes on their
> boat. Forgot the name though ... I'll research this again if
> anyone's interested.
> >
> > Jim
> 
> 
> Please do, it's easier to map out Corregidor on bikes. :-)
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[talk-ph] UNOSAT map of Divilacan and Maconanon

[Leonard Soriano]

FYI,

UNOSAT recently just published a map of Isabela.

Here is the link: http://unosat.web.cern.ch/unosat/asp/prod_free.asp?id=46

Description:

"This map illustrates satellite-detected stream networks, roads and urban areas 
around Divilacan in the Isabela Province, Philippines. analysis is based on 
detection methods using FORMOSAT & SPOT acquired over the area on 26 October 
2010. ASTER global elevation model (GDEM) was also used in the stream analysis. 
This base data assessment is a preliminary analysis & has not yet been 
validated in the field.

The depiction and use of boundaries, geographic names and related data shown 
here are not warranted to be error-free nor do they imply official endorsement 
or acceptance by the United Nations. UNOSAT is a program of the United Nations 
Institute for Training and Research (UNITAR), providing satellite imagery and 
related geographic information, research and analysis to UN humanitarian & 
development agencies & their implementing partners." 

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Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi Maning, 

To answer the question if we bought the maps from NAMRIA, yes the maps was 
bought from them and then scanned them. 

Good news that we could use their topo maps as long as we put them in our data 
reference.

--bunny
--- On Tue, 26/10/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation 
> request
> To: "Eugene Alvin Villar" 
> Cc: "Leonard Soriano" , "osm-ph" 
> 
> Received: Tuesday, 26 October, 2010, 6:10 AM
> Here's NAMRIA's response to my
> inquiry (I forgot to send to the list
> ASAP because it was marked as spam):
> 
> Dear Sir,
> 
> Did you buy the maps from the NAMRIA Map Sales Office?
> 
> You can use the maps, but please acknowledge NAMRIA as the
> source and
> mention the process you did on the maps (i.e scan,
> georeference/georegister and trace)
> 
> For more info. please call us at 8105466.
> 
> Truly yours,
> 
> Alvin Laurio
> 
> My original message:
> Hi, I would like to ask legal clarification on the use of
> the NAMRIA
> 1:50k topographic maps. If I manually scan the maps and
> distribute
> them for free to colleagues on the internet and allow then
> to trace
> features in the image, am I infringing NAMRIA's copyright
> over the
> maps? Please provide clarification. The paper maps do not
> clearly
> indicate restrictions of use of the map. Thank you very
> much.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
> > Are these maps kosher for tracing?
> >
> > The Intellectual Property Code of the Philippines
> (Republic Act No.
> > 8293) has this to say:
> >
> > "Section 176.1. No copyright shall subsist in any work
> of the
> > Government of the Philippines. However, prior approval
> of the
> > government agency or office wherein the work is
> created shall be
> > necessary for exploitation of such work for profit.
> [...]"
> >
> > The Wikipedia community has taken this to mean that
> government works
> > are still copyrighted because of the non-commercial
> clause.
> >
> > But, additionally, copyright in the Philippines
> generally persist for
> > the author's life + 50 years or 50 years after
> publication/making
> > depending on the work. So maps published in the 1950s
> *might* be OK.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:33 PM, maning sambale
> > 
> wrote:
> >> Bunny,
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Leonard Soriano
> >> 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maning rectified. However naka Transverse
> Mercator/Luzon Datum. I can re-project kung kinakailangan
> pero madami dami rin yun.
> >>
> >> If possible please re-project to lat/lon wgs84
> (EPSG:4326).  Upload it
> >> somewhere we can fetch the data.
> >>
> >>> CI produced a dataset ng rivers based on the
> Namria 125.000k. Pero They also produced a Philippine
> shoreline that includes main rivers (eg. Cagayan River)
> based on 1:50k topo maps.  Extracting the polylines of the
> rivers might is easy and can be used temporarily while the
> Landsat river system is on the way being digitized.
> >> The CI dataset requires a whole lot of data
> request processing (data
> >> holders are a combination of NGO, and national
> agencies, which
> >> requires everyone's approval).
> >>
> >>> May specific province ba pagsisimulan ng focus
> ng mapping? or lahat basta na apektuhan ng bagyo?
> >> I'm still collating information on the heavily
> affected areas.  Please
> >> help in sorting the information.
> >> NDCC has soem good reports on provincial site
> reports:
> >> http://www.ndcc.gov.ph/
> >>
> >> Make sure to update the wiki:
> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines_Tropical_Storm_2010
> >>
> >>> --bunny
> >>>
> >>> --- On Mon, 18/10/10, maning sambale 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: maning sambale 
> >>>> Subject: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan
> Humanitarian OSM Team activation request
> >>>> To: "osm-ph" ,
> "osm-talk" 
> >>>> Received: Monday, 18 October, 2010, 10:55
> AM
> >>>> Dear everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> I created an activation request for
> mapping affected areas
> >>>> Typhoon
> >>>> Megi/Juan in the Philippines.  At the
> moment, there
> >>>> are no high-res
>

Re: [talk-ph] Proposal: Intramuros Mapping Party

[Leonard Soriano]

ayos! pwede naman dumating with or without bikes.

--bunny

--- On Mon, 25/10/10, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

> From: Eugene Alvin Villar 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Proposal: Intramuros Mapping Party
> To: "Leonard Soriano" 
> Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> Received: Monday, 25 October, 2010, 5:51 AM
> Hi Bunny,
> 
> Maning would be interested in that. :-)
> 
> Eugene
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Leonard Soriano
> 
> wrote:
> > maganda ito. para sa interesado, set up tayo ng
> mapping team na mga naka-bike. :-)
> >
> > --bunny
> > --- On Sun, 24/10/10, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Eugene Alvin Villar 
> >> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Proposal: Intramuros
> Mapping Party
> >> To: "Rally de Leon" 
> >> Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <>
> >> Received: Sunday, 24 October, 2010, 1:27 AM
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I guess there are no objections to this proposal?
> >>
> >> I think we can have it on December 11, 2010,
> Saturday.
> >> There will be
> >> minimal planning needed here. Just show up in the
> morning
> >> and we'll
> >> provide the rest (walking papers, assignment, GPS
> units if
> >> needed,
> >> etc). :-)
> >>
> >> Eugene
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Rally de Leon
> 
> >> wrote:
> >> > sige sige. we need walking papers (paper
> & pen)
> >> for this mapping.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Eugene Alvin
> Villar
> >> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi guys,
> >> >>
> >> >> For the 4th quarter OSM Mapping Party, I
> propose
> >> we tackle Intramuros,
> >> >> Rizal Park and adjacent areas. <http://osm.org/go/4zhFffkR> The basic
> >> >> data is already there but we could add
> more
> >> details, buildings, POIs,
> >> >> and improve/confirm the routing near the
> Post
> >> Office.
> >> >>
> >> >> Let's also make this a small Christmas
> Party for
> >> the Philippine OSM
> >> >> community. Heck, maybe we can even get
> Carlos
> >> Celdran to help us out.
> >> >> What do you guys think? :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Eugene
> >> >>
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Re: [talk-ph] Proposal: Intramuros Mapping Party

[Leonard Soriano]

maganda ito. para sa interesado, set up tayo ng mapping team na mga naka-bike. 
:-)

--bunny
--- On Sun, 24/10/10, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

> From: Eugene Alvin Villar 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Proposal: Intramuros Mapping Party
> To: "Rally de Leon" 
> Cc: "OpenStreetMap Philippines" <>
> Received: Sunday, 24 October, 2010, 1:27 AM
> Hi guys,
> 
> I guess there are no objections to this proposal?
> 
> I think we can have it on December 11, 2010, Saturday.
> There will be
> minimal planning needed here. Just show up in the morning
> and we'll
> provide the rest (walking papers, assignment, GPS units if
> needed,
> etc). :-)
> 
> Eugene
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Rally de Leon 
> wrote:
> > sige sige. we need walking papers (paper & pen)
> for this mapping.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar
> 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> For the 4th quarter OSM Mapping Party, I propose
> we tackle Intramuros,
> >> Rizal Park and adjacent areas.  The basic
> >> data is already there but we could add more
> details, buildings, POIs,
> >> and improve/confirm the routing near the Post
> Office.
> >>
> >> Let's also make this a small Christmas Party for
> the Philippine OSM
> >> community. Heck, maybe we can even get Carlos
> Celdran to help us out.
> >> What do you guys think? :-)
> >>
> >> Eugene
> >>
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Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

[Leonard Soriano]

Salamat Maning for rectifying the topo maps.  Just to clarify a bit, the topo 
maps that I uploaded is collaborative effort with my previous colleagues in an 
organization called Anthrowatch based in Quezon City. We had a scanner that 
everytime we would have a new topo map, we would scan and archive it. I do not 
even remember now which specific maps that I scanned personally. Anyway, I plan 
to upload more maps when time allows.

--bunny

--- On Wed, 20/10/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation 
> request
> To: "osm-ph" 
> Received: Wednesday, 20 October, 2010, 12:19 PM
> Today's update on the Typhoon
> Megi/Juan mapping.
> 
> 1. 1:250k topomaps are now available as WMS which you can
> use as
> basemap in JOSM and Merkator.
> 2. We made a quick rectification of Bunny's donated 1:50K
> and also
> available as WMS.
> 
> More info in the wiki:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines_Tropical_Storm_2010#Other_data_sources
> 
> A word of caution on using the WMS, these maps are really
> old and only
> useful as additional reference for naming features. 
> Many of the shape
> of features (i. e. rivers) have changed through the
> years.  However,
> this still useful to verify Landsat traced features.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:40 PM, maning sambale
> 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > A couple of updates to our efforts.  All in the
> wiki:
> >
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines_Tropical_Storm_2010
> >
> > 1. Typhoon Megi/Juan is about to leave the Philippines
> Area of
> > Responsiblity, fortunately, very few casualties.  But
> the extent of
> > damage needs to be monitored.
> > 2. River mapping is continuing.
> > 3.  Bunny donated scanned topographic maps (1:50k).
>  You can use the
> > maps for adding names in the landsat derived rivers.
>  The maps are not
> > georeferenced you can do this via mapwarper, once
> rectified you can
> > now use it in josm and merkator.  Note that the
> topomaps are
> > copyrighted by NAMRIA, bunny scanned them personally
> and is allowing
> > the use for OSM.
> > 4. I identified possible SPOT5 2.5 color imagery.  We
> need to
> > prioritize which images we should request for
> donation.  Please edit
> > the wiki and provide a description why we should
> request the specific
> > image tile.
> >
> > As of this time, we have very little data we can offer
> to relief and
> > rescue workers, but given the resources in the wiki.
>  I believe we can
> > provide good data soon.
> > Thanks to everyone.
> >
> > --
> > cheers,
> > maning
> >
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Re: [talk-ph] Cordillera Topomaps Typhoon Megi/Juan

[Leonard Soriano]

Para sa lahat, 

Second set for the Cordilleras. 

Download link: http://www.4shared.com/dir/8CI8Nulj/Juan_Topomaps.html
Folder Juan_topomaps
Password: juan_topo_maps
Uploaded topo maps
7075 I Aringay
7174 I San Jose
7175 I Kayapa
7175 II San Nicolas
7175 IV Baguio City
7176 I Mankayan
7176 II Kabayan
7176 III Atok
7177 II Bontoc
7177 III Salcedo
7178 II Licuan
7275 I Kasibu
7275 III Burgos
7275 IV Bayombong
7276 I Bunhian
7276 III Solano
7276 IV Lagawe

I do not mind seeing these maps in public domain. Just use responsibly and  for 
non-commercial purposes. Ayos!

--bunny

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[talk-ph] Cagayan Topomaps Typhoon Megi/Juan

[Leonard Soriano]

Para sa lahat,

Download link: http://www.4shared.com/dir/8CI8Nulj/Juan_Topomaps.html
Folder Juan_topomaps
Password: juan_topo_maps
Uploaded topo maps
1. 7180 II Claveria 
2. 7276 II Cordon
3. 7278 I Piat
4. 7280 III Sanches Mira
5. 7476 II Dinapique Pt
6. 7476 III Mt Dos Hermanos
7. 7476 IV San Mariano
8. 7477 I Divilacan Bay
9. 7477 IV Mount Cresta
10. 7478 III Baguio Point
11. 7478 IV Twin Peaks
12. 7480 III San Vicente


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Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

[Leonard Soriano]

Maning rectified. However naka Transverse Mercator/Luzon Datum. I can 
re-project kung kinakailangan pero madami dami rin yun.

CI produced a dataset ng rivers based on the Namria 125.000k. Pero They also 
produced a Philippine shoreline that includes main rivers (eg. Cagayan River) 
based on 1:50k topo maps.  Extracting the polylines of the rivers might is easy 
and can be used temporarily while the Landsat river system is on the way being 
digitized.

May specific province ba pagsisimulan ng focus ng mapping? or lahat basta na 
apektuhan ng bagyo?

--bunny

--- On Mon, 18/10/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request
> To: "osm-ph" , "osm-talk" 
> Received: Monday, 18 October, 2010, 10:55 AM
> Dear everyone,
> 
> I created an activation request for mapping affected areas
> Typhoon
> Megi/Juan in the Philippines.  At the moment, there
> are no high-res
> available in the area.  What we can for now is to map
> large rivers
> visible in Landsat which is likely to be flooded.
> 
> As the event progresses, we will evaluate specific areas
> needing
> high-res imagery.
> 
> Thanks in advance for supporting the initiative.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_juan
> 
> -- 
> cheers,
> maning
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Re: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

[Leonard Soriano]

Manning, 

May mga scanned NAMRIA topo maps ako ng northern luzon. The maps are not up to 
date but in any case there is a need I can upload it somewhere for downloads.

--bunny

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> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request
> To: "osm-ph" , "osm-talk" 
> Received: Monday, 18 October, 2010, 10:55 AM
> Dear everyone,
> 
> I created an activation request for mapping affected areas
> Typhoon
> Megi/Juan in the Philippines.  At the moment, there
> are no high-res
> available in the area.  What we can for now is to map
> large rivers
> visible in Landsat which is likely to be flooded.
> 
> As the event progresses, we will evaluate specific areas
> needing
> high-res imagery.
> 
> Thanks in advance for supporting the initiative.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_juan
> 
> -- 
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> maning
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Re: [talk-ph] Digital Topographic Mapping of Mindanao

[Leonard Soriano]

Further information about the terms of reference of this project is in this link

http://medco.gov.ph/medcoweb/uploads/mtmp/mtmp_tor_psc&tcc.pdf

--bunny

--- On Tue, 12/10/10, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

> From: Eugene Alvin Villar 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Digital Topographic Mapping of Mindanao
> To: "maning sambale" 
> Cc: "osm-ph" 
> Received: Tuesday, 12 October, 2010, 12:54 PM
> Deja vu: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ph@openstreetmap.org/msg01656.html
> 
> Does this mean that this project is still in the planning
> stage after 1 year?
> 
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:24 PM, maning sambale
> 
> wrote:
> > Found this news on Sorbi's news blog:
> > http://www.geomanila.com/2010/09/digital-topographic-mapping-of-mindanao.html
> >
> > Finally, our half-a-century old topo maps will be
> updated.
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Re: [talk-ph] C6

[Leonard Soriano]

manning, maganda yan plano na yan at nakapanghihinyan di ako makapunta. 

Maganda siguro na may mga mapping party sa future kahit pa minsan minsan na ang 
gamit ang bike para less ang carbon footprint. Nakadagdag na ng GPS data at 
naka exercise pa! :-)

--bunny


--- On Wed, 13/10/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] C6
> To: "osm-ph" 
> Received: Wednesday, 13 October, 2010, 3:29 AM
> Hmm.  The pictures and comments
> from the forum gave me the urge to
> track it. Anyone interested to bike this Saturday morning?
> 
> > http://motorcyclephilippines.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120615
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [talk-ph] Laurel - Tagaytay Road that pass through "disneyland" Fwd: talk-ph post from banito_pi...@yahoo.com requires approval

[Leonard Soriano]

Hi Ed,

I am just actually looking at the possible  way from tagaytay ridge going down 
to laurel. i do remember that there is this road that pass through "disneyland" 
but I'm not sure which was it. thanks for the info.   

--- On Fri, 1/10/10, Ed Garcia  wrote:

From: Ed Garcia 
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Laurel - Tagaytay Road that pass through "disneyland" 
Fwd: talk-ph post from banito_pi...@yahoo.com requires approval
To: "Rally de Leon" 
Cc: "osm-ph" 
Received: Friday, 1 October, 2010, 10:48 AM

If you really must go to Laurel via the Diokno Highway (also known as the 
Payapa route), there is a sign a little after Canyon Woods that points to 
Laurel.  it would basically be all downhill from there.  So, From travelling 
from Canyon Woods to Laurel would be easier that from Laurel to Canyon Woods.  
Still, rough roads though.





On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Rally de Leon  wrote:

I know there's a barangay community and a road that crosses in the middle of 
Canyon Woods, which appears on osm map leading to Laurel's poblacion. It is 
best to ask local people if this road is safe or passable during rainy season.



On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Rally de Leon  wrote:


2 years ago, my cousins got lost coming from Laurel going up to Tagaytay ridge
 via these roads (they became narrower as they went up the mountain,  enough to 
fit one car only). So, I don't recommend any of the barangay roads mentioned 
going down to Laurel via 
tagaytay ridge. It's rainy season. Someone needs to verify first if they're 
slippery 
or 'tracks only' (4x4 trail). 


The safer road to use is the one with disney-like castle, which is "Diokno 
Highway" (green-color southwards). 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.0415573120117&lon=120.857334136963&zoom=13




Driving Directions:
Coming from Tagaytay, along Tagaytay-Nasugbu Road, turn left to Diokno Hwy at 
the intersection just before reaching Nasugbu boundary. This road will pass by 
Canyon Woods gate & Fantasy World (castles). At the end of Diokno Highway, turn 
left to the provincial road going to Lemery. 





On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:11 PM, maning sambale  
wrote:



Bunny,



We don't allow attachment in the talk-ph list.  Best to link images on

another image repo.  Or if you are showing osm maps, simply give the

url to the osm map.

For bunny's inquiry, the link to the map is here: http://osm.org/go/4zKqgcHm-



-- Forwarded message --

From: Leonard Soriano 

To: OpenStreetMap Philippines 

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:37:42 -0700 (PDT)



Hi All,



Anyone familiar which road from Laurel to Tagaytay (vice-versa) that

pass through  some kind of "disneyland castle" along the road. Attach

is the map which shows 3 roads that links laurel-tagaytay. In this

map, is it the road on the Left, Middle or Right? Thanks.



--bunny



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Re: [talk-ph] Laurel - Tagaytay Road that pass through "disneyland" Fwd: talk-ph post from banito_pi...@yahoo.com requires approval

[Leonard Soriano]

salamat Rally. very useful info and advice.

--bunny

--- On Fri, 1/10/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Laurel - Tagaytay Road that pass through "disneyland" 
> Fwd: talk-ph post from banito_pi...@yahoo.com requires approval
> To: "Rally de Leon" 
> Cc: "osm-ph" , "Leonard Soriano" 
> 
> Received: Friday, 1 October, 2010, 9:44 AM
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Rally
> de Leon 
> wrote:
> > 2 years ago, my cousins got lost coming from Laurel
> going up to Tagaytay
> > ridge via these roads (they became narrower as they
> went up the mountain,
> > enough to fit one car only). So, I don't recommend any
> of the barangay roads
> > mentioned going down to Laurel via tagaytay ridge.
> It's rainy season.
> > Someone needs to verify first if they're slippery or
> 'tracks only' (4x4
> > trail).
> Correct, which is why it was tagged as highway=track
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=track?uselang=en
> The three roads in question should have an additional
> tracktype grades
> to identify the exact type of surface.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype?uselang=en
> 
> > The safer road to use is the one with disney-like
> castle, which is "Diokno
> > Highway" (green-color southwards).
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.0415573120117&lon=120.857334136963&zoom=13
> >
> > Driving Directions:
> > Coming from Tagaytay, along Tagaytay-Nasugbu Road,
> turn left to Diokno Hwy
> > at the intersection just before reaching Nasugbu
> boundary. This road will
> > pass by Canyon Woods gate & Fantasy World
> (castles). At the end of Diokno
> > Highway, turn left to the provincial road going to
> Lemery.
> 
> Is this the road you are referring to:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31846623
> 
> It has a tracktype=grade4 which means:
> "Unpaved track; prominently dirt/sand/grass, but with some
> hard
> materials, or compressed materials mixed in. "
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:11 PM, maning sambale 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Bunny,
> >>
> >> We don't allow attachment in the talk-ph list.
>  Best to link images on
> >> another image repo.  Or if you are showing osm
> maps, simply give the
> >> url to the osm map.
> >> For bunny's inquiry, the link to the map is here:
> >> http://osm.org/go/4zKqgcHm-
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message --
> >> From: Leonard Soriano 
> >> To: OpenStreetMap Philippines 
> >> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Anyone familiar which road from Laurel to Tagaytay
> (vice-versa) that
> >> pass through  some kind of "disneyland castle"
> along the road. Attach
> >> is the map which shows 3 roads that links
> laurel-tagaytay. In this
> >> map, is it the road on the Left, Middle or Right?
> Thanks.
> >>
> >> --bunny
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> cheers,
> >> maning
> >>
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> -N.Branden
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> >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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> >> maning
> >>
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Re: [talk-ph] request for testing 10m contour for garmin (was Re: Groundtruth.)

[Leonard Soriano]

Maning,

Nadownload ko na yung .exe file. Laki ng file. Eksperimentuhan ko yung points 
na tinatanong mo. Mas interesado ako actually kung papano yung  usefulness nya 
na kung gamitin siya sa field.

As 10meter interval, naturally mas masinsin at detailed yung info but I would 
want to know later  kung kaya  ba basahin  ng mabilis or yung pag refresh ng 
GPS unit yung contour data. Lets see. Baka rin possible na instead  of having a 
10meter interval, a 15m or 20m could suffice as a future dataset but this needs 
to be assessed and evaluated further.

On the quality of the contour data itself, this might be asking a lot. Possible 
rin siguro at some point of the processing to run a smooth filter that will 
remove some of the corners of the contours. 

I thinks its a good product to start with. Elevation information is very 
important sa fieldwork or outdoors. It could be a potential "openstreet contour 
mapping project". Ayos man.

--bunny
--- On Wed, 28/7/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: [talk-ph] request for testing 10m contour for garmin (was Re: 
> Groundtruth.)
> To: "osm-ph" 
> Received: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010, 1:31 PM
> Anyone interested to test this?
> 
> 10m contour interval for Garmin devices.  Download the
> link below (~200 MB):
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/607635/osm-ph_gps_maps/10mcontour_ph_winmapsource_latest.exe
> 
> The contour were generated from SRTM data using
> Groundtruth.  The data
> was divided into 0.75 grid tile.
> 
> Beware: Loading the full Philippine map crashed my
> device!  Please
> test if this works for your own device.
> I am interested in the following scenarios:
> 1.  If you only add a limited number of contour tiles,
> does it crash your unit?
> 2.  If you add only the contour and not the osm-ph
> map, does it crash as well?
> 3. At what zoom level does it crash (watch the map scale)?
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, maning sambale
> 
> wrote:
> > Last time I checked, groudtruth uses the cgpsmapper to
> compile garmin
> > maps.  The free cgpsmapper has a lot of limitations
> (i.e. limited
> > routing), unless you but the pro version.  However, I
> used groundtruth
> > to generate contour maps based on SRTM.  I intend to
> provide free
> > download soon.  If anyone wants them for testing, let
> me know.  My
> > unit crashed when I loaded the whole country's 10m
> elevation contour!
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar
> 
> wrote:
> >> Here's the original blog post (Dec. '08) by Ground
> Truth's creator about the
> >> difference between his tool and the popular mkgmap
> tool, which maning uses
> >> to create the OSM-PH Garmin maps.
> >>
> >> http://igorbrejc.net/openstreetmap/groundtruth-a-new-garmin-mapmaking-tool
> >>
> >> Take note that the post is back in 2008. Things
> probably changed a lot since
> >> then.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Jim Morgan 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just found this tool for making Garmin images
> from OSM data
> >>>
> >>>        GroundTruth v1.0.0.0 by Igor Brejc
> >>>        Generates Garmin maps from
> OpenStreetMap data
> >>>        Visit http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GroundTruth for more
> info
> >>>
> >>> Also a helpful step-by-step guide.
> >>>
> >>>        http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GroundTruth_For_Dummies
> >>>
> >>> I don't have a Garmin. But I thought it might
> be useful. Looks quite
> >>> customisable as well. You can make eg a hiking
> map using a different set of
> >>> rules.
> >>>
> >>>        groundtruth makemap
> >>> -rules="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GroundTruth_Hiking_Map";
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
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