Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[maning sambale]

There is a similar detector with osmlint. AFAIR, we postprocess the result
and expose the overlap as a single feature for tasking.

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 05:30 Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> Please refer to the following three tasks (note that I have already fixed
> these, but the history/data should still be accessible in MapRoulette):
> https://maproulette.org/challenge/14203/task/62821584
> https://maproulette.org/challenge/14203/task/62821585
> https://maproulette.org/challenge/14203/task/62821586
>
> These three tasks all have the same instructions: "Duplicate Highway found
> for way id 245363417. Overlapping way id(s) 245363412."
>
> The instructions are the same because they each refer to different
> overlapping segments (a line segment between two nodes) of the same two
> ways, but with different pairs of endpoint nodes.
>
> It would be great for future overlapping ways challenges if these can be
> combined into just one task. But as noted by Erwin, it is okay if the task
> generation process remains the same (especially if it makes it too
> complicated on Apple's side) because we can use MapRoulette's multi-task
> widget to select these and work on them all at once. So please consider my
> suggestion as a nice-to-have and not as a must-have.
>
> Thanks!
> Eugene
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:40 AM Andrew Wiseman 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Eugene and Erwin,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback and the tips for doing multiple tasks at once!
>> Eugene, can you share an example task or two that are duplicated, I can
>> share them with our team to see if we can adjust the outputs going forward.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 |
>> andrew_wise...@apple.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2020, at 6:26 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Erwin,
>>
>> Thanks for the tip! I never did bother to look at the layout
>> customization feature. I've now taken a look at the multi-task widget and I
>> agree that this would make working on the overlapping ways challenge faster.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eugene
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:26 PM Erwin Olario  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It's actually possible to work on multiple tasks [0] on MapRoulette for
>>> the same challenge without having to make any changes on how the challenges
>>> are made
>>>
>>> You only need to edit your layout and then select the multiple tasks [3]
>>> as a "bundle." The only caveat here is that if you need to change the
>>> individual status of the tasks (e.g. one is fixed, another is too hard),
>>> you need to unbundle them and set then individually. Otherwise, a  task
>>> status change is applied to the whole bundle.
>>>
>>> This is very useful when tasks are in the same vicinity, and it's more
>>> practical to work on some of them at the same time.
>>>
>>> [0]:
>>> https://github.com/osmlab/maproulette3/wiki/Solving-Multiple-Tasks-Together
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:19 AM Eugene Alvin Villar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Andrew,

 Thank you again for providing these MapRoulette challenges. I've been
 going through some of these and I do have one feedback regarding the
 overlapping ways challenge which I hope can be improved on in the future.
 Right now, if there are two roads that are overlapping each other, a
 MapRoulette task is created for each segment that those two ways overlap.
 Fixing one task is quite simple but then it results in a lot of clicking in
 MapRoulette to mark the adjacent tasks as fixed as well. It would be nice
 if these adjacent tasks could be merged into just one MR task showing the
 whole extent of the overlap.

 Regards,
 Eugene


 On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:39 AM Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph <
 talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we
> just updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in
> the Philippines with new OSM data.
>
> You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project:
> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 and they include things
> like overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, 
> roads
> that aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions,
> roads that are close but not connected to others, and other similar 
> issues.
> I plan to work on some of them myself too.
>
> If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through
> potential issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or 
> indicate
> they are not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas
> 

Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Andrew,

Please refer to the following three tasks (note that I have already fixed
these, but the history/data should still be accessible in MapRoulette):
https://maproulette.org/challenge/14203/task/62821584
https://maproulette.org/challenge/14203/task/62821585
https://maproulette.org/challenge/14203/task/62821586

These three tasks all have the same instructions: "Duplicate Highway found
for way id 245363417. Overlapping way id(s) 245363412."

The instructions are the same because they each refer to different
overlapping segments (a line segment between two nodes) of the same two
ways, but with different pairs of endpoint nodes.

It would be great for future overlapping ways challenges if these can be
combined into just one task. But as noted by Erwin, it is okay if the task
generation process remains the same (especially if it makes it too
complicated on Apple's side) because we can use MapRoulette's multi-task
widget to select these and work on them all at once. So please consider my
suggestion as a nice-to-have and not as a must-have.

Thanks!
Eugene



On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:40 AM Andrew Wiseman 
wrote:

> Hi Eugene and Erwin,
>
> Thanks for the feedback and the tips for doing multiple tasks at once!
> Eugene, can you share an example task or two that are duplicated, I can
> share them with our team to see if we can adjust the outputs going forward.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 |
> andrew_wise...@apple.com
>
> On Oct 1, 2020, at 6:26 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
>
> Hi Erwin,
>
> Thanks for the tip! I never did bother to look at the layout customization
> feature. I've now taken a look at the multi-task widget and I agree that
> this would make working on the overlapping ways challenge faster.
>
> Regards,
> Eugene
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:26 PM Erwin Olario  wrote:
>
>>
>> It's actually possible to work on multiple tasks [0] on MapRoulette for
>> the same challenge without having to make any changes on how the challenges
>> are made
>>
>> You only need to edit your layout and then select the multiple tasks [3]
>> as a "bundle." The only caveat here is that if you need to change the
>> individual status of the tasks (e.g. one is fixed, another is too hard),
>> you need to unbundle them and set then individually. Otherwise, a  task
>> status change is applied to the whole bundle.
>>
>> This is very useful when tasks are in the same vicinity, and it's more
>> practical to work on some of them at the same time.
>>
>> [0]:
>> https://github.com/osmlab/maproulette3/wiki/Solving-Multiple-Tasks-Together
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:19 AM Eugene Alvin Villar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Andrew,
>>>
>>> Thank you again for providing these MapRoulette challenges. I've been
>>> going through some of these and I do have one feedback regarding the
>>> overlapping ways challenge which I hope can be improved on in the future.
>>> Right now, if there are two roads that are overlapping each other, a
>>> MapRoulette task is created for each segment that those two ways overlap.
>>> Fixing one task is quite simple but then it results in a lot of clicking in
>>> MapRoulette to mark the adjacent tasks as fixed as well. It would be nice
>>> if these adjacent tasks could be merged into just one MR task showing the
>>> whole extent of the overlap.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Eugene
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:39 AM Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph <
>>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we
 just updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in
 the Philippines with new OSM data.

 You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project:
 https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 and they include things
 like overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads
 that aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions,
 roads that are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues.
 I plan to work on some of them myself too.

 If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through
 potential issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate
 they are not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas
 data analysis tool: https://github.com/osmlab/atlas.

 If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing
 roads are probably the easiest but they should all be fairly
 straightforward.

 Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you!

 Andrew

 Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: 

Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph]

Hi Eugene and Erwin,

Thanks for the feedback and the tips for doing multiple tasks at once! Eugene, 
can you share an example task or two that are duplicated, I can share them with 
our team to see if we can adjust the outputs going forward.

Thanks,

Andrew 

Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 | andrew_wise...@apple.com 


> On Oct 1, 2020, at 6:26 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
> 
> Hi Erwin,
> 
> Thanks for the tip! I never did bother to look at the layout customization 
> feature. I've now taken a look at the multi-task widget and I agree that this 
> would make working on the overlapping ways challenge faster.
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:26 PM Erwin Olario  > wrote:
> 
> It's actually possible to work on multiple tasks [0] on MapRoulette for the 
> same challenge without having to make any changes on how the challenges are 
> made 
> 
> You only need to edit your layout and then select the multiple tasks [3] as a 
> "bundle." The only caveat here is that if you need to change the individual 
> status of the tasks (e.g. one is fixed, another is too hard), you need to 
> unbundle them and set then individually. Otherwise, a  task status change is 
> applied to the whole bundle.
> 
> This is very useful when tasks are in the same vicinity, and it's more 
> practical to work on some of them at the same time.
> 
> [0]: 
> https://github.com/osmlab/maproulette3/wiki/Solving-Multiple-Tasks-Together 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:19 AM Eugene Alvin Villar  > wrote:
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> Thank you again for providing these MapRoulette challenges. I've been going 
> through some of these and I do have one feedback regarding the overlapping 
> ways challenge which I hope can be improved on in the future. Right now, if 
> there are two roads that are overlapping each other, a MapRoulette task is 
> created for each segment that those two ways overlap. Fixing one task is 
> quite simple but then it results in a lot of clicking in MapRoulette to mark 
> the adjacent tasks as fixed as well. It would be nice if these adjacent tasks 
> could be merged into just one MR task showing the whole extent of the overlap.
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:39 AM Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph 
> mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we just 
> updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in the 
> Philippines with new OSM data. 
> 
> You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project: 
> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 
>  and they include things like 
> overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads that 
> aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions, roads 
> that are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues. I plan 
> to work on some of them myself too.
> 
> If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through potential 
> issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate they are 
> not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas data analysis tool: 
> https://github.com/osmlab/atlas .
> 
> If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing roads are 
> probably the easiest but they should all be fairly straightforward.
> 
> Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you! 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Erwin,

Thanks for the tip! I never did bother to look at the layout customization
feature. I've now taken a look at the multi-task widget and I agree that
this would make working on the overlapping ways challenge faster.

Regards,
Eugene


On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:26 PM Erwin Olario  wrote:

>
> It's actually possible to work on multiple tasks [0] on MapRoulette for
> the same challenge without having to make any changes on how the challenges
> are made
>
> You only need to edit your layout and then select the multiple tasks [3]
> as a "bundle." The only caveat here is that if you need to change the
> individual status of the tasks (e.g. one is fixed, another is too hard),
> you need to unbundle them and set then individually. Otherwise, a  task
> status change is applied to the whole bundle.
>
> This is very useful when tasks are in the same vicinity, and it's more
> practical to work on some of them at the same time.
>
> [0]:
> https://github.com/osmlab/maproulette3/wiki/Solving-Multiple-Tasks-Together
>
>
>
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>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:19 AM Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Andrew,
>>
>> Thank you again for providing these MapRoulette challenges. I've been
>> going through some of these and I do have one feedback regarding the
>> overlapping ways challenge which I hope can be improved on in the future.
>> Right now, if there are two roads that are overlapping each other, a
>> MapRoulette task is created for each segment that those two ways overlap.
>> Fixing one task is quite simple but then it results in a lot of clicking in
>> MapRoulette to mark the adjacent tasks as fixed as well. It would be nice
>> if these adjacent tasks could be merged into just one MR task showing the
>> whole extent of the overlap.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eugene
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:39 AM Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph <
>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we
>>> just updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in
>>> the Philippines with new OSM data.
>>>
>>> You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project:
>>> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 and they include things
>>> like overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads
>>> that aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions,
>>> roads that are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues.
>>> I plan to work on some of them myself too.
>>>
>>> If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through potential
>>> issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate they are
>>> not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas data analysis
>>> tool: https://github.com/osmlab/atlas.
>>>
>>> If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing roads
>>> are probably the easiest but they should all be fairly straightforward.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 |
>>> andrew_wise...@apple.com
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Erwin Olario]

It's actually possible to work on multiple tasks [0] on MapRoulette for the
same challenge without having to make any changes on how the challenges are
made

You only need to edit your layout and then select the multiple tasks [3] as
a "bundle." The only caveat here is that if you need to change the
individual status of the tasks (e.g. one is fixed, another is too hard),
you need to unbundle them and set then individually. Otherwise, a  task
status change is applied to the whole bundle.

This is very useful when tasks are in the same vicinity, and it's more
practical to work on some of them at the same time.

[0]:
https://github.com/osmlab/maproulette3/wiki/Solving-Multiple-Tasks-Together



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On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:19 AM Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:

> Hello Andrew,
>
> Thank you again for providing these MapRoulette challenges. I've been
> going through some of these and I do have one feedback regarding the
> overlapping ways challenge which I hope can be improved on in the future.
> Right now, if there are two roads that are overlapping each other, a
> MapRoulette task is created for each segment that those two ways overlap.
> Fixing one task is quite simple but then it results in a lot of clicking in
> MapRoulette to mark the adjacent tasks as fixed as well. It would be nice
> if these adjacent tasks could be merged into just one MR task showing the
> whole extent of the overlap.
>
> Regards,
> Eugene
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:39 AM Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph <
> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we
>> just updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in
>> the Philippines with new OSM data.
>>
>> You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project:
>> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 and they include things
>> like overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads
>> that aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions,
>> roads that are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues.
>> I plan to work on some of them myself too.
>>
>> If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through potential
>> issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate they are
>> not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas data analysis
>> tool: https://github.com/osmlab/atlas.
>>
>> If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing roads
>> are probably the easiest but they should all be fairly straightforward.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you!
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 |
>> andrew_wise...@apple.com
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hello Andrew,

Thank you again for providing these MapRoulette challenges. I've been going
through some of these and I do have one feedback regarding the overlapping
ways challenge which I hope can be improved on in the future. Right now, if
there are two roads that are overlapping each other, a MapRoulette task is
created for each segment that those two ways overlap. Fixing one task is
quite simple but then it results in a lot of clicking in MapRoulette to
mark the adjacent tasks as fixed as well. It would be nice if these
adjacent tasks could be merged into just one MR task showing the whole
extent of the overlap.

Regards,
Eugene


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:39 AM Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph <
talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we
> just updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in
> the Philippines with new OSM data.
>
> You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project:
> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 and they include things
> like overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads
> that aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions,
> roads that are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues.
> I plan to work on some of them myself too.
>
> If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through potential
> issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate they are
> not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas data analysis
> tool: https://github.com/osmlab/atlas.
>
> If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing roads
> are probably the easiest but they should all be fairly straightforward.
>
> Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you!
>
> Andrew
>
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph]

Hi Eugene,

Thanks for the feedback and for noting that, I just disabled the older 
challenge to prevent that going forward.

Andrew

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> On Sep 8, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Thank you for providing additional MR tasks. I've been looking at these new 
> challenges and I think that two of the challenges seem to have a large amount 
> of duplicate tasks with each other: "Philippines - Overlapping Ways" (12768) 
> and "Philippines - Overlapping Ways / Vías superpuestas" (14203). This means 
> that if a mapper fixes a task in one challenge, another mapper would 
> encounter the exact same task in the other challenge but it is already fixed 
> leading to confusion and wasted time.
> 
> Regards,
> Eugene
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 6:11 AM Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph 
> mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I updated the MapRoulette challenges with new OSM data again, they are all 
> posted here:  https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> Andrew Wiseman |  Maps | iPhone: +1.202.270.4464 | andrew_wise...@apple.com 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph 
>> mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we just 
>> updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in the 
>> Philippines with new OSM data. 
>> 
>> You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project: 
>> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 
>>  and they include things like 
>> overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads that 
>> aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions, roads 
>> that are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues. I plan 
>> to work on some of them myself too.
>> 
>> If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through potential 
>> issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate they are 
>> not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas data analysis 
>> tool: https://github.com/osmlab/atlas .
>> 
>> If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing roads are 
>> probably the easiest but they should all be fairly straightforward.
>> 
>> Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you! 
>> 
>> Andrew 
>> 
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for providing additional MR tasks. I've been looking at these new
challenges and I think that two of the challenges seem to have a large
amount of duplicate tasks with each other: "Philippines - Overlapping Ways"
(12768) and "Philippines - Overlapping Ways / Vías superpuestas" (14203).
This means that if a mapper fixes a task in one challenge, another mapper
would encounter the exact same task in the other challenge but it is
already fixed leading to confusion and wasted time.

Regards,
Eugene


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talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I updated the MapRoulette challenges with new OSM data again, they are all
> posted here:  https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286
>
> Thanks!
>
> Andrew
>
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> andrew_wise...@apple.com
>
> On Feb 25, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph <
> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we
> just updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in
> the Philippines with new OSM data.
>
> You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project:
> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 and they include things
> like overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads
> that aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions,
> roads that are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues.
> I plan to work on some of them myself too.
>
> If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through potential
> issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate they are
> not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas data analysis
> tool: https://github.com/osmlab/atlas.
>
> If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing roads
> are probably the easiest but they should all be fairly straightforward.
>
> Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you!
>
> Andrew
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph]

Hi everyone,

I updated the MapRoulette challenges with new OSM data again, they are all 
posted here:  https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 


Thanks!

Andrew 

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> On Feb 25, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we just 
> updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in the 
> Philippines with new OSM data. 
> 
> You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project: 
> https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 
>  and they include things like 
> overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads that 
> aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions, roads 
> that are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues. I plan 
> to work on some of them myself too.
> 
> If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through potential 
> issues in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate they are 
> not a problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas data analysis tool: 
> https://github.com/osmlab/atlas .
> 
> If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing roads are 
> probably the easiest but they should all be fairly straightforward.
> 
> Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you! 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph]

Hi everyone,

This is Andrew again from Apple. I wanted to let everyone know that we just 
updated the MapRoulette challenges related to road network issues in the 
Philippines with new OSM data. 

You can find all of the challenges in this MapRoulette project: 
https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/39286 
 and they include things like 
overly sharp road angles, roads that cross but aren’t connected, roads that 
aren’t connected to anything, overlapping roads, turn restrictions, roads that 
are close but not connected to others, and other similar issues. I plan to work 
on some of them myself too.

If you haven’t used it before, MapRoulette lets you go through potential issues 
in OSM data one by one and either correct them or indicate they are not a 
problem. The challenges were created with our Atlas data analysis tool: 
https://github.com/osmlab/atlas .

If you aren’t sure what challenge to try, sharp angles or crossing roads are 
probably the easiest but they should all be fairly straightforward.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions or feedback. Thank you! 

Andrew 

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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph]

Hi Maning,

We aren’t currently planning to work on these, but may in the future. I’ve done 
a few myself for fun though. We ran this analysis for a number of countries, 
and I figured I should let the communities know about them sooner rather than 
later so the data doesn’t get too stale.

Andrew 

> On Sep 12, 2019, at 5:54 AM, maning sambale  
> wrote:
> 
> hi andrew,
> 
> Thank you for preparing these challenges. Are there plans for your team to 
> fix them?
> 
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 05:48 Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph 
> mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
> Hi OSM Philippines,
> 
> My name is Andrew, I work for Apple on the Maps team. We recently used our 
> Atlas data analysis tool (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas 
> ) to look at a few types of potential issues 
> related to roads and routing on OpenStreetMap, such as roads that have overly 
> sharp angles, roads that cross but don't connect, routing problems, turn 
> restrictions, places where navigation is impossible due to missing 
> connections or potentially incorrect one-way roads, and other similar issues.
> 
> I've posted the results of those checks on MapRoulette, a tool that lets you 
> go through potential issues one by one and either correct them or indicate 
> they are not a problem. I wanted to let you know they are available in case 
> others wanted to try fixing some of them — I also plan to go through some of 
> them myself.
> 
> In MapRoulette you can either pick a random task to fix or click on a 
> specific one. If you want to do tasks around a certain location, such as 
> somewhere you are familiar with, you can click on one from the map view, and 
> then click Next task: Nearby when you finish it.
> 
> The checks are:
> 
> Crossing roads: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8807 
> Routing problems: 
> https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8804 
> 
> Floating and disconnected roads: 
> https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8810 
> 
> Sharp angles: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8808 
> 
> Road connectivity check: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8806 
> 
> Invalid lanes: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8814 
> 
> Invalid turn restriction: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8815 
> 
> Malformed roundabouts: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8809 
> 
> Road links: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8813 
> 
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Andrew
> 
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for setting up these MapRoulette challenges!

I'm happy to see that Apple is interested in helping out improve OSM data
in the Philippines. On the other hand, we never seem to run out of OSM
notes, fixme=* tagged objects, and Osmose and Keep Right bugs to fix, so
another set of potential OSM data errors is not helping. 

~Eugene

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talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi OSM Philippines,
>
> My name is Andrew, I work for Apple on the Maps team. We recently used our
> Atlas data analysis tool (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas) to look at a
> few types of potential issues related to roads and routing on
> OpenStreetMap, such as roads that have overly sharp angles, roads that
> cross but don't connect, routing problems, turn restrictions, places where
> navigation is impossible due to missing connections or potentially
> incorrect one-way roads, and other similar issues.
>
> I've posted the results of those checks on MapRoulette, a tool that lets
> you go through potential issues one by one and either correct them or
> indicate they are not a problem. I wanted to let you know they are
> available in case others wanted to try fixing some of them — I also plan to
> go through some of them myself.
>
> In MapRoulette you can either pick a random task to fix or click on a
> specific one. If you want to do tasks around a certain location, such
> as somewhere you are familiar with, you can click on one from the map view,
> and then click Next task: Nearby when you finish it.
>
> The checks are:
>
> Crossing roads: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8807
> Routing problems: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8804
> Floating and disconnected roads:
> https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8810
> Sharp angles: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8808
> Road connectivity check: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8806
> Invalid lanes: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8814
> Invalid turn restriction: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8815
> Malformed roundabouts: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8809
> Road links: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8813
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Andrew
>
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Re: [talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[maning sambale]

hi andrew,

Thank you for preparing these challenges. Are there plans for your team to
fix them?

On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 05:48 Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph <
talk-ph@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi OSM Philippines,
>
> My name is Andrew, I work for Apple on the Maps team. We recently used our
> Atlas data analysis tool (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas) to look at a
> few types of potential issues related to roads and routing on
> OpenStreetMap, such as roads that have overly sharp angles, roads that
> cross but don't connect, routing problems, turn restrictions, places where
> navigation is impossible due to missing connections or potentially
> incorrect one-way roads, and other similar issues.
>
> I've posted the results of those checks on MapRoulette, a tool that lets
> you go through potential issues one by one and either correct them or
> indicate they are not a problem. I wanted to let you know they are
> available in case others wanted to try fixing some of them — I also plan to
> go through some of them myself.
>
> In MapRoulette you can either pick a random task to fix or click on a
> specific one. If you want to do tasks around a certain location, such
> as somewhere you are familiar with, you can click on one from the map view,
> and then click Next task: Nearby when you finish it.
>
> The checks are:
>
> Crossing roads: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8807
> Routing problems: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8804
> Floating and disconnected roads:
> https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8810
> Sharp angles: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8808
> Road connectivity check: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8806
> Invalid lanes: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8814
> Invalid turn restriction: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8815
> Malformed roundabouts: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8809
> Road links: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8813
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Andrew
>
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[talk-ph] Help fix the road network in the Philippines with MapRoulette challenges

[Andrew Wiseman via talk-ph]

Hi OSM Philippines,

My name is Andrew, I work for Apple on the Maps team. We recently used our 
Atlas data analysis tool (https://github.com/osmlab/atlas 
) to look at a few types of potential issues 
related to roads and routing on OpenStreetMap, such as roads that have overly 
sharp angles, roads that cross but don't connect, routing problems, turn 
restrictions, places where navigation is impossible due to missing connections 
or potentially incorrect one-way roads, and other similar issues.

I've posted the results of those checks on MapRoulette, a tool that lets you go 
through potential issues one by one and either correct them or indicate they 
are not a problem. I wanted to let you know they are available in case others 
wanted to try fixing some of them — I also plan to go through some of them 
myself.

In MapRoulette you can either pick a random task to fix or click on a specific 
one. If you want to do tasks around a certain location, such as somewhere you 
are familiar with, you can click on one from the map view, and then click Next 
task: Nearby when you finish it.

The checks are:

Crossing roads: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8807
Routing problems: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8804
Floating and disconnected roads: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8810
Sharp angles: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8808
Road connectivity check: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8806
Invalid lanes: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8814
Invalid turn restriction: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8815
Malformed roundabouts: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8809
Road links: https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/8813

Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions.

Thanks!

Andrew

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[talk-ph] Help Improve Candaba data

[maning sambale]

Hi,

As you all know, we are currently in Candaba, Pampanga for our first
LGU training.
Other than the limited connectivity, everything is working out fine.
We've covered a few areas today and added many POIs.  One appeal from
the Candaba LGU is for the OSM-PH community to help in improving the
map.  I created a tasking manager job for this:

http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/323

Please take a task and edit whatever you can to improve the map.  The
imagery is fairly recent (October 2012, negligible offset) and the
Candaba mappers think very little has changed since.  Priority
features they want added are:

- roads and bridges - for routing during emergency
- waterways - to understand probable paths of floods
- location of settlements (landuse=residential) - for locating
population centers at risk
- landuse (mostly agriculture) – for understanding damages to the economy
- buildings – minor priority for now but good to have this data

We will also use the tasking manager tomorrow.  Advance thanks you for helping.

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Re: [talk-ph] Help in geolocating evacuation centers for DSWD (Habagat 2013 response)

[maning sambale]

Dear everyone,

So here it goes.  DSWD have a list of Evacuation Centers (EC) for
several regions.  The list is in this Google Spreadsheet [0].
The ECs highlighted in yellow are those which has a geolocation, you
can see the geolocated ECs in the map [1].

How to help:
1. Go over the list of ECs in the spreadsheet and look for the EC you
know the location.
2. Copy the EC name (Select  Ctrl+C).
3. Go the the map and go to the location of the EC.
4. Click the Edit on the top left sidebar.
5. Add a placemark where the EC is located (placemark icon on the top
left corner of the map).
6. Paste the name of the EC in the Title of the baloon popo-up.
7. Hit the Save button.
8.  Go back to the spreadsheet and highlight the name celle of the
geolocated ECs in yellow.

cc'ed here are the DSWD team in charge of the location.  Please send
them a message if you need write access to the spreadsheet and map.
You can also drag the existing placemarks to improve the location.  Thanks!

[0] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At4Gri8h4AtPdFZuZU9xdWEyenJaMmRNR3JFekVublE#gid=7
[1] 
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=2ie=UTF8hl=enoe=UTF8msa=0msid=211052725515545818730.0004e47f815dc7212744c


PS.  You might be wondering why I am asking you to map using Google
Maps, very simply, this is what DSWD is using right now.  We can help
them by adopting existing tools they use.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear everyone,

 We were requested by the DSWD IT Central Office to help in geolocating
 evacuation centers.  Currently, they have a list of centers, it would
 be helpful if we can find time to locate them.

 I'm still working on the proposed workflow, so that they can easily
 use the data we contribute.

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[talk-ph] Help in geolocating evacuation centers for DSWD (Habagat 2013 response)

[maning sambale]

Dear everyone,

We were requested by the DSWD IT Central Office to help in geolocating
evacuation centers.  Currently, they have a list of centers, it would
be helpful if we can find time to locate them.

I'm still working on the proposed workflow, so that they can easily
use the data we contribute.

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Re: [talk-ph] Help

[Bart Bartolome]

I should say weekly in my case, but most of the time I update if I am 
going out the next day.  I also update when I've made any changes.

On Wednesday, 16 June, 2010 10:29 AM, maning sambale wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com  wrote:
 You should expect this update in the Garmin map in about 2 days. :-)

 Out of curiosity, how frequent do osm-ph garmin users update their maps?
 a. daily
 b. weekly
 c. monthly
 d. not at all, I'm satisfied with the data six months ago
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[talk-ph] Help

[jc tn]

I noticed an error in my Garmin OSM Map.
But it is a bit too tricky.  

Description:
from Libis going along E Rodriguez Avenue   towards the Katipunan (the overpass 
with tunnel).
Go up the ramp, but I don't want to go to Katipunan (which uses the tunnel) but 
rather to B. Serrano. (headed to EDSA)


so I keep right and avoid the tunnel.

The map is missing this branch.

This is what I am referring to:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.6148lon=121.07382zoom=17


(The layer part is trickiest)


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Re: [talk-ph] Help

[maning sambale]

I made a simulated routing see here:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/4704122285_a74e5791e7.jpg

From E. Rod - Libis, it takes a u-turn just before Camp Atienza and
then goes to B. Serrano.

Not sure which one is correct though.

Routing becomes problematic when multiple layered roads are present.
Another hypothetical example is probably SKYWAY and SLEX routes.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:56 AM, jc tn jctan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I noticed an error in my Garmin OSM Map.
 But it is a bit too tricky.

 Description:
 from Libis going along E Rodriguez Avenue   towards the Katipunan (the
 overpass with tunnel).
 Go up the ramp, but I don't want to go to Katipunan (which uses the tunnel)
 but rather to B. Serrano. (headed to EDSA)


 so I keep right and avoid the tunnel.

 The map is missing this branch.

 This is what I am referring to:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.6148lon=121.07382zoom=17


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Re: [talk-ph] Help

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Yeah, there's a missing link road between the flyover and the service road
near the Holy Angels Montessori School. This is a known problem but I never
did get around to fixing it. :-P

I now added it: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4996779

Note that the link road is two-way. Those from Blue Ridge can go the tunnel
while those from the flyover can go to Bonny Serrano.

You should expect this update in the Garmin map in about 2 days. :-)


On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:56 AM, jc tn jctan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I noticed an error in my Garmin OSM Map.
 But it is a bit too tricky.

 Description:
 from Libis going along E Rodriguez Avenue   towards the Katipunan (the
 overpass with tunnel).
 Go up the ramp, but I don't want to go to Katipunan (which uses the tunnel)
 but rather to B. Serrano. (headed to EDSA)


 so I keep right and avoid the tunnel.

 The map is missing this branch.

 This is what I am referring to:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.6148lon=121.07382zoom=17


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Re: [talk-ph] Help

[maning sambale]

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 You should expect this update in the Garmin map in about 2 days. :-)

Out of curiosity, how frequent do osm-ph garmin users update their maps?
a. daily
b. weekly
c. monthly
d. not at all, I'm satisfied with the data six months ago
e. I download the new map, whenever my device detects a free wifi. :0



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[talk-ph] help improve added data in San Fernando, La Union

[maning sambale]

Hi,

I added street data over San Fernando, La Union from donated topomaps
for tracing

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2812494

Please help in:
connecting the roads to existing OSM data
correct highway class and names

More will come later.


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