Re: [Talk-transit] Railway. Source= GPS
Hi Dave, Some people have found more luck getting a GPS signal in the carriage ends (I believe they're called the vestibules?) - however it's a pretty uncomfortable journey stood their the entire time. Otherwise, it simply depends on the type of train (some are more shielded than others), and, I guess, the type of GPS device (ones with bigger aerials might cope better). Also, I think it helps if you get a GPS fix before getting on the train - they seem to have more difficulty getting a fix when moving at high speed (or at least mine does). Where are you mapping? Most of the UK train lines should already be fairly well mapped. Frankie 2009/9/25 d f fac63te...@yahoo.com Hi I've seen a few railway ways where it says the source is GPS. I've tried a couple of times but got absolutely no signal. I guess the roof of the carriages are shielded. Short of sticking an aerial on the roof or walking the tracks, what tips could you give me to get a recording of my journey? Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit -- Frankie Roberto Experience Designer, Rattle 0114 2706977 http://www.rattlecentral.com ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Railway. Source= GPS
On 25 Sep 2009, at 09:04, Frankie Roberto wrote: Hi Dave, Some people have found more luck getting a GPS signal in the carriage ends (I believe they're called the vestibules?) - however it's a pretty uncomfortable journey stood their the entire time. Yes it called a vestibule. Otherwise, it simply depends on the type of train (some are more shielded than others), and, I guess, the type of GPS device (ones with bigger aerials might cope better). Also, I think it helps if you get a GPS fix before getting on the train - they seem to have more difficulty getting a fix when moving at high speed (or at least mine does). I've found that the GPS you use can make a huge difference in the signal they can get. Where are you mapping? Most of the UK train lines should already be fairly well mapped. There are quite a lot that need some fine adjustment/more points added as they have only been roughly mapped. Shaun Frankie 2009/9/25 d f fac63te...@yahoo.com Hi I've seen a few railway ways where it says the source is GPS. I've tried a couple of times but got absolutely no signal. I guess the roof of the carriages are shielded. Short of sticking an aerial on the roof or walking the tracks, what tips could you give me to get a recording of my journey? Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit -- Frankie Roberto Experience Designer, Rattle 0114 2706977 http://www.rattlecentral.com ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
[Talk-transit] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Train station names: Place Station ou just Place ?
UK railway term for the three letter code (eg EUS for Euston) is (wait for it): tlc (most railway locations also have a 5-digit stanox, a 4-digit national location code (nlc), a tiploc and several more, but for stations, the tlc is the nearest to a meaningful short code) I'd suggest something like tlc_ref Richard -- Forwarded message -- From: John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net Date: Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Train station names: Place Station ou just Place ? To: Cc: Talk OSM t...@openstreetmap.org On the subject of railway stations. I think it would be good if tagged them with their reference codes (no idea what the correct term is), all the stations in the UK have codes and if you know them it's quicker to use them while searching. I'm not such a geek I know all of them but the ones I use regularly I tend to know (in the UK they're also useful for the traintimes.org.uk site, e.g. http://traintimes.org.uk/sav/eus gets the next trains from Stratford-upon-Avon to London Euston). Just spotted the wiki mentions uic_ref so would this go under ref, or nr_ref (national rail) or something else? John ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Train station names: Place Station ou just Place ?
I've been starting to do this, using ref= on the station relations (eg see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/255163). You can get a full list of the station codes (and the official names) from http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/codes/ Can I invite anyone mapping UK railway stations to add references to stations you've mapped to this wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_railway_stations Frankie 2009/9/25 Péter Connell p...@connell.plus.com They are CRS codes. Richard Mann wrote: UK railway term for the three letter code (eg EUS for Euston) is (wait for it): tlc (most railway locations also have a 5-digit stanox, a 4-digit national location code (nlc), a tiploc and several more, but for stations, the tlc is the nearest to a meaningful short code) I'd suggest something like tlc_ref Richard -- Forwarded message -- From: *John McKerrell* j...@mckerrell.net mailto:j...@mckerrell.net Date: Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Train station names: Place Station ou just Place ? To: Cc: Talk OSM t...@openstreetmap.org mailto:t...@openstreetmap.org On the subject of railway stations. I think it would be good if tagged them with their reference codes (no idea what the correct term is), all the stations in the UK have codes and if you know them it's quicker to use them while searching. I'm not such a geek I know all of them but the ones I use regularly I tend to know (in the UK they're also useful for the traintimes.org.uk http://traintimes.org.uk/ site, e.g. http://traintimes.org.uk/sav/eus gets the next trains from Stratford-upon-Avon to London Euston). Just spotted the wiki mentions uic_ref so would this go under ref, or nr_ref (national rail) or something else? John ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org mailto:t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit -- Frankie Roberto Experience Designer, Rattle 0114 2706977 http://www.rattlecentral.com ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Railway. Source= GPS
Hi Frankie Where are you mapping? Most of the UK train lines should already be fairly well mapped. In my area they are mapped, but definitely not well. The line traces are so zig-zaggy instead of curves, that on a couple of occasions they've clashed with roads rivers. I shall try in the vestibule next time Thanks Dave F. From: Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, 25 September, 2009 9:04:25 Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Railway. Source= GPS Hi Dave, Some people have found more luck getting a GPS signal in the carriage ends (I believe they're called the vestibules?) - however it's a pretty uncomfortable journey stood their the entire time. Otherwise, it simply depends on the type of train (some are more shielded than others), and, I guess, the type of GPS device (ones with bigger aerials might cope better). Also, I think it helps if you get a GPS fix before getting on the train - they seem to have more difficulty getting a fix when moving at high speed (or at least mine does). Where are you mapping? Most of the UK train lines should already be fairly well mapped. Frankie 2009/9/25 d f fac63te...@yahoo.com Hi I've seen a few railway ways where it says the source is GPS. I've tried a couple of times but got absolutely no signal. I guess the roof of the carriages are shielded. Short of sticking an aerial on the roof or walking the tracks, what tips could you give me to get a recording of my journey? Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit -- Frankie Roberto Experience Designer, Rattle 0114 2706977 http://www.rattlecentral.com ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
