Re: [Talk-us] Mapnik slower than usual?
Nathan Edgars II wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? Is this due to the Osmarender server going down? Good, so it isn't just me. PS I had some trouble sending this article. My news reader said that the group was read-only. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapnik slower than usual?
Nathan Edgars II wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? Is this due to the Osmarender server going down? AIUI there's some work going on to get local tile mirrors to serve requests. The London tile mirror (which currently serves the US) has had some initial load issues. The sysadmins know and are working on it. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Mapnik-slower-than-usual-tp5541521p5543634.html Sent from the USA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Mapnik slower than usual?
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? I've been getting that too. __John ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Mapnik slower than usual?
T , 2012-03-07 10:49 +, John Sturdy rakstīja: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? I've been getting that too. I'm getting it from last five days. Peter. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Mapnik slower than usual?
Hello all, I'm having that problem and still having several others in Potlatch 2. I can't add points. If I try to add a point, I can no longer highlight any ways. I have to save my work, go back to View and then return to Edit, which reloads Potlatch 2. Also, many ways, particularly residential streets, are not visible. Where there is a turning circle at the end of a street, only a dot for the turning circle is visible, but the white line for the street is missing. In other instances, the name of a way is visible, but the line for the street is not. The same issues occur on both my computers and in both Firefox and Chrome. Does anyone know if someone is trying to fix this? I've traded emails with members in the US and Europe who also have this problem. Charlotte X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 97.74.135.181 Delivered-To: techl...@techlady.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkQEAIkWV09ZELOWlGdsb2JhbABDs3kEBIEMIgEBAQEJCwkJFAQjgX0BAQEDAQEBAQggDwwKDBIOAgEBAgYBCzYICAMBDAQPBAEHAQ4BGBkFFYdoBQEDB6gcCogfP4h6jU6DIgSIUopIgiWGWohcg2I X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org From: Alexander Jones happy5...@gmail.com Followup-To: gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.us Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 02:15:07 -0600 Lines: 10 X-Complaints-To: use...@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-72-191-49-218.satx.res.rr.com User-Agent: KNode/4.8.0 Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Mapnik slower than usual? X-BeenThere: talk-us@openstreetmap.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Reply-To: happy5...@gmail.com List-Id: OpenStreetMap USA talk-us.openstreetmap.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/options/talk-us, mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us List-Post: mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org List-Help: mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us, mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=subscribe Nathan Edgars II wrote: Is it just me, or are there more timeout magnifying glasses than usual? Is this due to the Osmarender server going down? Good, so it isn't just me. PS I had some trouble sending this article. My news reader said that the group was read-only. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady The Four Internet Freedoms Freedom to visit any site on the Internet Freedom to access any content or service that is not illegal Freedom to attach any device that does not interfere with the network Freedom to know all the terms of a service, particularly any that would affect the first three freedoms. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Fwd: Contacting non-responders with less than a month to go
Toby, Thanks for your efforts. I'll try to contact some people here in LA, where, apparently, there are big areas of unlicensed work. Since I can't edit (thanks to the recent changes in Potlatch 2), I have some time on my hands. Charlotte X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 97.74.135.185 Delivered-To: techl...@techlady.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuwCAEntVk9ZELOWlGdsb2JhbABCtQ8IIgEBAQEJCwkJFAQjgX8BBQEBDwIJHQYBBQoMEgwCAQIBAgYHECIJCAgDAR4BBAEMAQUBIhMFHYdlAQMHoXsKi3SCcYU8P4EMAQULjTeDLgSIUoIThRCDJYIljjg9hCOBPQ DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Xj8YUG6bFA6jzhOo4LV6H91oPOIEg3zMJK270V7l9G8=; b=s6Qnni/iv0R1dgeuscEM9b5M5ECjdBI2qMPRwg7UOjXitUBiAdsKiB1nnGmF16MBGY 2/3OxAOLHUuPXzBO1KNY7gEAoPqv3Tsmny320suZwZzInZ4n5Fv9pC0vnV+BO0rq18yP Exrqd/J7ZOTiXvnYFV/L6k7YWW8kNdmyYEpZmIl51UyrlgbW/mc3fOlGv3ZR0w4vHpPv YGgdw/DU9xpHdMcmtxnhFxPtunKwLoEj7GnPW5A8MCsU6VRxrYyB8X+E0VvgE0HTaIMR U46EYlpw2ip8f/hWYz52eLV7nDGFnQ2fzggRTmWF33UKbMuXUDB4jh33qMbS1sNNOaju FijA== Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 23:09:15 -0600 From: Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com To: talk-us talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Contacting non-responders with less than a month to go X-BeenThere: talk-us@openstreetmap.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 List-Id: OpenStreetMap USA talk-us.openstreetmap.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/options/talk-us, mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us List-Post: mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org List-Help: mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us, mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=subscribe Well, this has been brought up before but with less than a month left to go before the license change I thought it was worth talking about again. Since December I have been steadily contacting mappers. I started out covering Kansas and have had great success here. Since mid February, myself and others have been working on contacting the non-responders with the most edits in our respective countries, with some coordination and help from Simon Poole. All told, I have attempted contact with about 90 people here in the US. So far I have managed to get through to just over half and every one of them has accepted the new terms. However... As great as that is, it's still barely a drop in the bucket. My overall 50% contact rate has required a non-trivial amount of effort involving google, twitter, facebook, linkedIn, youtube, etc as well as a few (sometimes slightly awkward) telephone conversations. Hi, this is the Internet. I'm calling for your son. However I have found that a good 25-30% of people respond after nothing but a personal message through the OSM message system. Obviously this means that their registered email address is still valid and they see the notification email. This also means that they should have seen the messages from OSMF a couple of months ago but people are lazy, forgetful and have over-zealous spam filters. So everyone on this list, please take another look around your city/state using the available tools[1] and just start sending messages. You can easily spit out 10 messages in under an hour. I would suggest coming up with your own text that you feel comfortable with. It doesn't have to be fancy. We're just trying to get eyeballs on the target. I usually put something location specific in the subject line to try and get their attention and let them know this isn't an automatic email. Something like Your map edits in city seems to work. For the body I say that I noticed that they were active in OSM a couple of years ago and thank them for their contribution. Then I point out that since they haven't been active, they may not be aware of the upcoming license change which requires a response from all users and that we need their permission to carry their edits forward into the new license and ask them to log in to their account and review the new terms. That's all you need. And as a bonus, some of them might start mapping again! Fewer than I had hoped... but better than nothing. And finally, there are two non-responders here in the US that I haven't been able to find much on and was wondering if anyone else happens to know any details about them. They haven't been active since before I created my account so I thought maybe some other long-time users might know something that I don't. If anyone has any personal information it would probably be best to send it directly to me and not the list. Or I guess try to contact them yourself. The user names are: kyrbyboy with edits New Jersey Sunny with edits in Seattle, Denver and Beijing. [1] http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe (click on highlighted things to see user names
Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Mapnik slower than usual?
Charlotte Wolter wrote: I'm having that problem and still having several others in Potlatch 2. I can't add points. If I try to add a point, I can no longer highlight any ways. I have to save my work, go back to View and then return to Edit, which reloads Potlatch 2. Charlotte, we are trying to help you, but we can't do that without you coming up with some more information - as has been requested - and ideally using the proper bug-tracking system rather than the mailing lists. Just a mention of where this is happening would be good, as requested here: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4275 Though it would really help if you could follow the guidelines in http://trac.openstreetmap.org/newticket : [start quote] * How to be a helpful bug reporter * Where you can, always provide steps to reproduce - in other words, a series of instructions that the developers can follow to reproduce your bug. The more you can do to pinpoint the problem, the more likely it'll be fixed. 1. Give any pertinent details of your system (operating system and version, browser and version, etc.). 2. If the problem is with a web page or web application, give its URL. If the problem is encountered with a particular set of data, say what (e.g. a location in OpenStreetMap). 3. Explain what you are doing, click-by-click. 4. Explain what you expect to happen. 5. Explain what is happening instead. [end quote] When it says click-by-click it _means_ click-by-click. Explain what you are doing _precisely_, so that a developer can follow the steps you are taking. When you say I can't add points that could mean a million things - by dragging-and-dropping from the left-hand panel? By shift-clicking in a way? By double-clicking on the page? Who knows. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Fwd-Re-Mapnik-slower-than-usual-tp5544499p5544528.html Sent from the USA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Mapnik slower than usual?
Richard, I have posted tickets twice to TRAC in the last two days, and have no communication about my issues. What requests are you referring to? --C At 07:50 AM 3/7/2012, you wrote: Charlotte Wolter wrote: I'm having that problem and still having several others in Potlatch 2. I can't add points. If I try to add a point, I can no longer highlight any ways. I have to save my work, go back to View and then return to Edit, which reloads Potlatch 2. Charlotte, we are trying to help you, but we can't do that without you coming up with some more information - as has been requested - and ideally using the proper bug-tracking system rather than the mailing lists. Just a mention of where this is happening would be good, as requested here: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4275 Though it would really help if you could follow the guidelines in http://trac.openstreetmap.org/newticket : [start quote] * How to be a helpful bug reporter * Where you can, always provide steps to reproduce - in other words, a series of instructions that the developers can follow to reproduce your bug. The more you can do to pinpoint the problem, the more likely it'll be fixed. 1. Give any pertinent details of your system (operating system and version, browser and version, etc.). 2. If the problem is with a web page or web application, give its URL. If the problem is encountered with a particular set of data, say what (e.g. a location in OpenStreetMap). 3. Explain what you are doing, click-by-click. 4. Explain what you expect to happen. 5. Explain what is happening instead. [end quote] When it says click-by-click it _means_ click-by-click. Explain what you are doing _precisely_, so that a developer can follow the steps you are taking. When you say I can't add points that could mean a million things - by dragging-and-dropping from the left-hand panel? By shift-clicking in a way? By double-clicking on the page? Who knows. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Fwd-Re-Mapnik-slower-than-usual-tp5544499p5544528.html Sent from the USA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady The Four Internet Freedoms Freedom to visit any site on the Internet Freedom to access any content or service that is not illegal Freedom to attach any device that does not interfere with the network Freedom to know all the terms of a service, particularly any that would affect the first three freedoms. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Mapnik slower than usual?
Have you not checked back at the tickets to see followup comments? On 7 Mar 2012, at 16:58, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Richard, I have posted tickets twice to TRAC in the last two days, and have no communication about my issues. What requests are you referring to? --C At 07:50 AM 3/7/2012, you wrote: Charlotte Wolter wrote: I'm having that problem and still having several others in Potlatch 2. I can't add points. If I try to add a point, I can no longer highlight any ways. I have to save my work, go back to View and then return to Edit, which reloads Potlatch 2. Charlotte, we are trying to help you, but we can't do that without you coming up with some more information - as has been requested - and ideally using the proper bug-tracking system rather than the mailing lists. Just a mention of where this is happening would be good, as requested here: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4275 Though it would really help if you could follow the guidelines in http://trac.openstreetmap.org/newticket : [start quote] * How to be a helpful bug reporter * Where you can, always provide steps to reproduce - in other words, a series of instructions that the developers can follow to reproduce your bug. The more you can do to pinpoint the problem, the more likely it'll be fixed. 1. Give any pertinent details of your system (operating system and version, browser and version, etc.). 2. If the problem is with a web page or web application, give its URL. If the problem is encountered with a particular set of data, say what (e.g. a location in OpenStreetMap). 3. Explain what you are doing, click-by-click. 4. Explain what you expect to happen. 5. Explain what is happening instead. [end quote] When it says click-by-click it _means_ click-by-click. Explain what you are doing _precisely_, so that a developer can follow the steps you are taking. When you say I can't add points that could mean a million things - by dragging-and-dropping from the left-hand panel? By shift-clicking in a way? By double-clicking on the page? Who knows. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Fwd-Re-Mapnik-slower-than-usual-tp5544499p5544528.html Sent from the USA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady The Four Internet Freedoms Freedom to visit any site on the Internet Freedom to access any content or service that is not illegal Freedom to attach any device that does not interfere with the network Freedom to know all the terms of a service, particularly any that would affect the first three freedoms. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Contacting non-responders with less than a month to go
* Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2012-03-06 23:09 -0600]: kyrbyboy with edits New Jersey I tried to find kyrbyboy elsewhere online and found likely accounts on tripadvisor.com and city-data.com. Neither yielded a reply, and city-data.com says my message hasn't been viewed. I think kyrbyboy is pretty solidly in the not-going-to-respond camp. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- 2920 B.C.: A legendary flood sweeps Slashdot, filling up a Borland / Inprise story with hundreds of offtopic posts. -- The history of the world, according to Yu Suzuki --- -- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Contacting non-responders with less than a month to go
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2012-03-06 23:09 -0600]: kyrbyboy with edits New Jersey I tried to find kyrbyboy elsewhere online and found likely accounts on tripadvisor.com and city-data.com. Neither yielded a reply, and city-data.com says my message hasn't been viewed. I think kyrbyboy is pretty solidly in the not-going-to-respond camp. Yeah, I found the tripadvisor account as well. In fact it was hard to find anything in google about him that was NOT related to tripadvisor! It seems like he is only active every few months, presumably when he travels. I'm still hoping he has a trip scheduled in the next few weeks and logs in to check some hotel reviews first :) Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
