Re: [Talk-us] Thank You for the Operation Cowboy mappers
Am 30.11.2012 02:30, schrieb Martijn van Exel: Hi folks, I put together this short Thank You video for all who took part in Operation Cowboy around the world. Because this is a thank you on behalf of the US community, I thought I'd show it to you first before I post it on Talk and on osm.us. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yvj-UyZbeY Let me know what you think. M It's great and obviusly you have more artistic skills than me, for OSM grafities ;) Thanks Martijn! Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Preaparing Thank you gift
Am 29.11.2012 00:04, schrieb Richard Fairhurst: !i! wrote: Hi, one last personal note on the mapathon and a big thank you (literally): http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/18132 And thank you, too. I've always been sceptical about this sort of event - my vision for OSM is that we need more contributors with local knowledge, not more remote mapping - but in hindsight I think this, and MapRoulette, are showing some really interesting ways forward. By applying the OSM community to a problem in Mechanical Turk fashion, we're able to achieve much better results than an unthinking import or automated edit would do. I absolutely agree with that opinion. What OSM makes strong is a huge crowd of people _on the ground_, that contribute and update data. On the other hand, there are still a lot of countries, where we sadly haven't this public attention and only a few inhabitant participate on our project. So what we can do here is to wait, till there is a critical number of mappers, or try to help from outside. Similar to Richard (and others) I was sceptical, too if armchair-mapping will work with such an general mission. So first approach (night of the living maps) was focused on contribute on a semi-local level, where people have usually no problem with identifying objects, ... So OPC2012 was the next step, to see if it will work on another continents, as well and get feedback by the community. And it seemed to work, even if some users would prefer to work on their own regions again ;) I had similar concerns to do tracings here in my state of Mecklenburg Vorpommern (in north east Germany). As this is a wide area with only sparse community, I wasn't sure if it will be bad (as to 'steal' the work from other upcoming local mappers) or good idea to trace places 100km away. But it turned out, that most externals enjoyed to see their city with buildings (usually a giant batch job that frightens people) and attract them to add more minor changes as adding POIs they now can easily point to. A few dozen times, it worked, too , to invite inhabitants (local bureaus, associations, sport clubs, ...) to add their knowledge using osmbugs.org. That doesn't have to be a general effort, but was my personal motivation to see armchair mapping more positive. So what else can be done to attract people? I don't think that we have so much choices: -get into media (IT, GIS, ...) -get into usual apps -offer better/more innovative services than other -allow even minor places to get as detailed, as boom towns The first idea needs some storys (as OPC2012 might was) and doesn't work without new or innovative facts, so new developments. Here in Germany it seems to be now a problem, as anybody from the IT sector seems to know OSM, but only very few from the mainstream. So maybe here we might need really to focus on the consumers to recruit a few more of them as mappers. -Erfahrungen vom ländlichen Raum in Ostdeutschland -Wie Leute gewinnen? -hier breiter bewerben, da OSM zwar bei IT Leuten bekannt, aber kaum bei Normalsterblichen -man weis immer nur sehr wenig von anderen teilen der Erde -Mapper sind gewissenhafter als man denkt. Es scheint nur den wenigsten um Masse statt Klasse zu gehen Give the OSM community a task and it will carry it out much better than you'd imagine. There's lots we can learn from that. Yes most mappers (as you and me) seem to care more on quality and quantity. Maybe this is because everybody knows mapping from a lot of different perspectives (local survey , mapping well know areas, editing existing 3rd party data). Personally I saw that we all have very limited knowledge from other parts of this world :) bye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Preaparing Thank you gift
Hi, one last personal note on the mapathon and a big thank you (literally) http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/18132 bye, Matthias Am 25.11.2012 15:37, schrieb Matthias Meißer: Hi, if we look at the current stats, 150 users joined the OPC2012 which results in 300 active mappers in the US (as the usual 200 ones). Personally I like to send out an Thank you all! message, but maybe we all can build something more personal? Just a few ideas: 1. Collecting photo snapshots of the american OSM community and build a collage with it? Maybe the string Thank you with your faces? Or as part in a animation? (who can do this videoediting?) 2. Writing the String in all possible languages (in german: Vielen Dank!) in the USA deserts at OSM, taking a snapshot and removing them afterwards? Maybe you have another ideas, how you can thank people contributing from the other end of the world? Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Preaparing Thank you gift
Hi, if we look at the current stats, 150 users joined the OPC2012 which results in 300 active mappers in the US (as the usual 200 ones). Personally I like to send out an Thank you all! message, but maybe we all can build something more personal? Just a few ideas: 1. Collecting photo snapshots of the american OSM community and build a collage with it? Maybe the string Thank you with your faces? Or as part in a animation? (who can do this videoediting?) 2. Writing the String in all possible languages (in german: Vielen Dank!) in the USA deserts at OSM, taking a snapshot and removing them afterwards? Maybe you have another ideas, how you can thank people contributing from the other end of the world? Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy running
Hi yesterday, a few local parties already started. Since the beginning 123 user constributed: http://livechanges.neis-one.org/stats.php As you can see, there are a few hotspots with a lot of work and a lot of fixes around the whole nation: http://livechanges.neis-one.org/heatmap.php If you like, just help us, with www.maproulette.org that makes a lot of fun and you see the whole continent :) But please, add #opc2012 ... in your changeset comments! To get any support, just come to IRC (oftc.net #opc2012) or use Twitter or Google Hangout. So, there is still a whole day, that can be used! Am 23.11.2012 18:02, schrieb Russ Nelson: Matthias Meißer writes: as most noted, the Operation cowboy mapathon with focus on the USA started today! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_cowboy Putnam County in New York State needs a lot of love still. Lots of misaligned roads. -distribution -total count ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Operation Cowboy running
Hi, as most noted, the Operation cowboy mapathon with focus on the USA started today! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_cowboy Thanks to Pascal everybody can track where our busy mappers contribute and fix data: http://livechanges.neis-one.org So hope everybody of you will have a nice little party at the weekend and that we help our friends in America to improve the data (even if just a little bit ;). yours, Matthias (aka !i!) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Progress/Todo
Hi Folks, the organisation of Operation Cowboy seems to be nearly finished. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_Cowboy I guess we have enough target areas and thanks to Martjins Map Roulett enough ideas on how to find new tasks :) Thanks fly out to everybody who starts a mapping cake! Thanks to Charlotte (Techlady) we had some *press releases* and it seemed to worked: http://www.spatialsource.com.au/2012/11/20/article/OpenStreetMap-second-annual-map-a-thon-on-this-weekend/RNXTDSVBSV.html http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenStreetMap-launches-Operation-Cowboy-1751382.html But if you like, you can try to still push the event, as it might be a good idea to bring attention of US IT media to the quality assurance topic and that we still looking for more mappers becausethere is still a lot of work to do in America. Sadly slashdot and raddit didn't work for me here :/ Another good thing would be *social media* so spreading to word to attract our global community (and others of course): - https://twitter.com/opcowboy and #OPC2012 - Starting a facebook or google+ account anyone? - Maintaining the IRC channel? Setup a bot? Might be interesting, that this party, we __might__ get a nice animation by Derick Rethans. But hey, let's first do the job and enjoy the results afterwards ;) bye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OPC2012] Operation Cowboy - Mission statement
Am 09.11.2012 05:09, schrieb Richard Weait: On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi, as I don't read any discussions about where and what to map, I would like to bring up this essential question again. Just a few possible ideas (that can be also mixed): - adding new details (as buildings, landuse, ...) - fixing TIGER (alignment, classification, ...) - focus on the coast areas only (big cities) - focus on the countryside (where no one has been before) - focus on n states (and making there a huge step) Is there any way to tie this event into growing the local community or assisting a local community that _wants_ some distant armchair support? How about: - call a friend in Distant Town and have them agree to survey Main Street after you fix TIGER and add the buildings from imagery. - have a local user request assistance for Adjacent County TIGER fixup, in exchange for surveying names for new subdivisions in Adjacent County - have new mappers request a mapping coach to join them online allow the new mapper to learn with an interested coach helping out on voice, IRC, email, whatever... Just doing armchair mapping has the chance to create a positive result, but using the armchair mapping event to grow local communities where they don't yet exist would be a greater good. Sounds really good to me, but I have no idea how to organise this. I bet it will be easier, if US folks join the IRC and add a prefix as US to their nickname, so it will be easy to ask US specific questions. bye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [OPC2012] Operation Cowboy - Mission statement
Am 07.11.2012 19:33, schrieb Martijn van Exel: Hi, I think it would be good if we can put together a (wiki) page with resources for armchair TIGER mappers. User:lyx started a real great guide in German, focusing on the most troubles with imports and what differs in the US: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Operation_cowboy/TIGER One question ist still, if we should remove the tiger:reviewed flag, if it seems ok in BING, of if we should keep it, till somebody does a on the ground survey? Somebody started alread adding target areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_Cowboy#State_cake May you can please add some more, that need to be fixed/enriched with details? Think about that you are the only ones with information about the area and there is a bunch of hungry mappers out there ;) Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OPC2012] Operation Cowboy - Mission statement
Can anyone put this into the tasking server please? Offering different levels of nessesary cleanups sounds good to me, but nobody from the other end of the world knows the USA on a county level ;) bye, Matthias Am 08.11.2012 18:32, schrieb Brian May: I agree, but I would suggest we start with larger metro areas that still require a lot of tiger cleanup. Not many people are going to notice tiger cleanup in rural West Virginia. In Florida, examples of populous counties that started out with horrible tiger with major work still required: Seminole County Volusia County Marion County Citrus County Other large counties that have had a lot of work done correcting horrible tiger, but still a decent chunk to go: Osceola Brevard Pasco Some large counties started out with decent tiger or bad tiger that has been significantly corrected, but there's a lot of new streets that have been traced with no names or haven't been traced at all: Broward Palm Beach Miami-Dade Hillsborough Duval Lee Sarasota Manatee I updated the Florida wiki last year regarding tiger status and will do more updates on tiger status in the next few days. And I call on others active in FL to chime in and/or update the Florida wiki. And as far as long driveways in rural areas - that problem is all over the place in rural counties, as well as ways marked as residential that are dirt trails on private property that may or may not even exist. And the rural counties tend to have bad alignment as well. And many have totally wrong or partially wrong street names to boot. Brian On 11/8/2012 12:00 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Hello all, I think that mapping a desert area could be a good way to get people involved, because 1. It's an area that has an urgent need for mapping and 2. Much of it is virgin territory, so even beginning mappers could contribute a lot just by correcting TIGER street alignments. I also think it's a good idea to limit the area, so we have a good chance of making a visible impact. To that end, I would like to suggest West Virginia. I recently encountered a rural area of W.V. while doing the Maproulette. Not only were the roads badly aligned, but the local TIGER technician named every driveway with the same name as the street to which it was connected. Charlotte X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 97.74.135.185 Delivered-To: techl...@techlady.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQAAEbcmFBZELOWkWdsb2JhbABEgmyCZL1fIwEBAQEJCwsHFAQjgiAGAQE3BgEBBAoeCgICAwECBi0VAQcIAwEFAwIBAgEVAUIGAgEBAYdyAQMPAQMHpzyDKoEKAQWFDwJIBYlWBo8zgyWTUYItgRyET41J X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-06.arcor-online.net 61BF710C1D8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1352195954; bh=obzHINph+cSEPS1WDueKIJsxzzpML5ITSLtYAMD4VOU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=r68HZu28+DO+650TMJt8gUIG1Mxkdop/ZTEYhVM2E47cEmonBmGK9fQVXHsJ305i8 djWN5AUKGb4Ihnqizk3ZFRj25mGPS9g8p4EmgMSxFoI85cglspkFLhal7650s+ihQ9 y1hSvY+jqIKs/d0Zt5RW3hnyu4YmvmdipxOLefEQ= Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:59:13 +0100 From: Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] [OPC2012] Operation Cowboy - Mission statement X-BeenThere: talk-us@openstreetmap.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: OpenStreetMap USA talk-us.openstreetmap.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/options/talk-us http://lists.openstreetmap.org/options/talk-us, mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=unsubscribe mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us List-Post: mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org List-Help: mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=help mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us, mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=subscribe mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=subscribe Hi, as I don't read any discussions about where and what to map, I would like to bring up this essential question again. Just a few possible ideas (that can be also mixed): - adding new details (as buildings, landuse, ...) - fixing TIGER (alignment, classification, ...) - focus on the coast areas only (big cities) - focus on the countryside (where no one has been before) - focus on n states (and making there a huge step) - ... cya, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady *The Four Internet
[Talk-us] [OPC2012] Operation Cowboy - Mission statement
Hi, as I don't read any discussions about where and what to map, I would like to bring up this essential question again. Just a few possible ideas (that can be also mixed): - adding new details (as buildings, landuse, ...) - fixing TIGER (alignment, classification, ...) - focus on the coast areas only (big cities) - focus on the countryside (where no one has been before) - focus on n states (and making there a huge step) - ... cya, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Am 02.11.2012 06:01, schrieb Toby Murray: I assume we should target these activities towards mappers of medium or lower skill? We try to involve the community as a whole, which includes newbies as well as pros. One task I can think of doing is to find newer roads that weren't in the original TIGER data and adding them in, preferably in areas without active mappers. But I assume not many participants would be able to handle a whole county's worth of raw TIGER data for manual conflation. The TIGER 2012 road name tiles on the other hand might be a useful tool for this. Sounds interesting :) But please keep in mind, that people usually wan't to to contribute a huge amount of data. So the task should IMHO include a lot of basic tracing work (that can be done without special background knowledge) so people get satisfied with the results. Maybe for detecting/fixing thing the game aproach by Martjin's roulet is better? bye, Matthias Toby On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi US community, so now the details of the next global mapathon are fixed: It's called operation cowboy and covering the weekend *23.11-25.11* so every local team should have a fair chance to join in. Tomorrow I would like to announce it to the whole community, but some things are still missing. But as this is a community project, I need your help, as there is still a lot of work and of course you are the locals: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_cowboy 1. *Mission statement:* You should discuss, what people should do. Adding details is very general, but what is interesting? (buildings, landuse, ...) How can TIGER get improved without creating more worse data by strangers? We would need 2..3 sentences for motivation and a bigger text for the /join page. (TIGER catalogue see down). 2. *Target areas in tasking server:* Where should we work? Let there enough space for everybody to edit (last NOTLM was 200guys working) but keep in mind that we from the rest of the world, have no idea about US in general and where it might be helpful to add details (so everybody would pick a random place). Simon was kind to allow to use his OSM tasking server to manage the areas: http://rebuild.poole.ch You will need admin rights, so it would be great if 2..3 people would do this job of entering suggested areas (BTW should we now add a orga team tab for who is who?) 3. *Short TIGER problem guide/gallery:* Need a very short (people are lazy!) page about what’s usually wrong with TIGER. Using images only with Top5 bugs would be fine, e.g. so people learning fast that TIGER is usually bad placed and can be wrong for 10meter 4. *Further Imagery* Is there other or better imagery than Bing for certain areas? How can we promote this to the other volunteers? 5. *OSMF sponsoring* I already contacted OSMF Communications working group to see if the foundation would sponsor local parties to buy junkfood, drinks etc. (still no response) Last year the german FOSSGIS gave 50Eur (~65USD) for all parties (~5) which was very ok and a good motivation for local organisers. If this fails, could we get sponsoring by other companies (or would they like to cater a own local party and invite mappers?) 6. *More social media channels:* Can anybody start and maintain further accounts as facebook, ...? A logo will come if Ken returns at end of the week, but maybe you could start a skeleton so we could start promotion in 1..2 weeks. Personally I will put my focus on Twitter only (sorry lack of time). *Later stuff:* - Checking and translating final wiki pages next days - Announce to US media in 2..3 weeks - Creating a thank you-photo poster of all remote mapping teams - Creating a thank you video? Anybody with compositing/cutting skills? Ok that's the start. It would be very helpful if some of you would helping by coordinating some of this aspects. In every case I'm glad to assist you, but it's just to much for a single (foreign) person. I guess this will become fun :) bye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Am 02.11.2012 17:11, schrieb Alex Barth: Is the Thanksgiving weekend Nov 23-25 good for this? Fine by me, just wanted to flag it. Others pointed to this as well. I think as the US the only the target area, it's not that a big problem, as most contributors will be outside the country. On the other hand it's simply very difficult to find a good date for a worldwide community ;) Hope this will be anyway ok for the most of you. Later on, then comes christmas and so we would need to switch to next year... (bad for myself as I had to start my master thesis). goodbye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - preparations
Hi US community, so now the details of the next global mapathon are fixed: It's called operation cowboy and covering the weekend *23.11-25.11* so every local team should have a fair chance to join in. Tomorrow I would like to announce it to the whole community, but some things are still missing. But as this is a community project, I need your help, as there is still a lot of work and of course you are the locals: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Operation_cowboy 1. *Mission statement:* You should discuss, what people should do. Adding details is very general, but what is interesting? (buildings, landuse, ...) How can TIGER get improved without creating more worse data by strangers? We would need 2..3 sentences for motivation and a bigger text for the /join page. (TIGER catalogue see down). 2. *Target areas in tasking server:* Where should we work? Let there enough space for everybody to edit (last NOTLM was 200guys working) but keep in mind that we from the rest of the world, have no idea about US in general and where it might be helpful to add details (so everybody would pick a random place). Simon was kind to allow to use his OSM tasking server to manage the areas: http://rebuild.poole.ch You will need admin rights, so it would be great if 2..3 people would do this job of entering suggested areas (BTW should we now add a orga team tab for who is who?) 3. *Short TIGER problem guide/gallery:* Need a very short (people are lazy!) page about what’s usually wrong with TIGER. Using images only with Top5 bugs would be fine, e.g. so people learning fast that TIGER is usually bad placed and can be wrong for 10meter 4. *Further Imagery* Is there other or better imagery than Bing for certain areas? How can we promote this to the other volunteers? 5. *OSMF sponsoring* I already contacted OSMF Communications working group to see if the foundation would sponsor local parties to buy junkfood, drinks etc. (still no response) Last year the german FOSSGIS gave 50Eur (~65USD) for all parties (~5) which was very ok and a good motivation for local organisers. If this fails, could we get sponsoring by other companies (or would they like to cater a own local party and invite mappers?) 6. *More social media channels:* Can anybody start and maintain further accounts as facebook, ...? A logo will come if Ken returns at end of the week, but maybe you could start a skeleton so we could start promotion in 1..2 weeks. Personally I will put my focus on Twitter only (sorry lack of time). *Later stuff:* - Checking and translating final wiki pages next days - Announce to US media in 2..3 weeks - Creating a thank you-photo poster of all remote mapping teams - Creating a thank you video? Anybody with compositing/cutting skills? Ok that's the start. It would be very helpful if some of you would helping by coordinating some of this aspects. In every case I'm glad to assist you, but it's just to much for a single (foreign) person. I guess this will become fun :) bye, Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] MapRoulette new challenge: connectivity
I realy like the idea of gamification and looking on other continents is very interesting :) But (that might be what Frederik already said), remember that the rest of the community outside the US is quit unfamilar with TIGER import issues in detail. For example, I tried to fix a bug, but it turned out, that the road didn't match the BING imagery. So what to do? Is BING or TIGER wrong? So my idea is, just to create a short gallery with common TIGER problems, to help strangers to repair this part of our dataset :) bye, Matthias Am 29.10.2012 21:06, schrieb Martijn van Exel: Hi all, MapRoulette (http://maproulette.org) is back with a new challenge: ~68,000 connectivity bugs in the US to be fixed. These are ways ending very close (5m) to another way, which means they should likely be connected, although there are of course exceptions. Which makes it an ideal MapRoulette challenge! So if you have a few minutes to spare, help fix those bugs - spin the MapRoulette wheel and see where it takes you ;) And don't be afraid to do some TIGER or other cleanup while you're editing. Read more about this challenge and the future of MapRoulette (hint: KeepRight) here: https://oegeo.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/new-maproulette-challenge-connectivity-bugs/ If you have more ideas for challenges that you think would be just right for MapRoulette, post them here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapRoulette/Challenges Of course, you're more than welcome to set up your own MapRoulette instance using the code at https://github.com/mvexel/remapatron - hit me up if you need any help with that. Happy Rouletting, Martijn ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Night of the living maps 07.02.2012 - a 'virtual' global mapping party
Am 28.01.2012 00:36, schrieb Brian Wilson: On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de mailto:dig...@arcor.de wrote: Hi US community, since a few weeks, we had the idea for a global action, that we'd like to announce today: www.nightofthelivingmaps.org http://www.nightofthelivingmaps.org At Thursday, the 07.02.2012 Just to be picky that would be TUESDAY 07-Feb-12, right? Yes, sorry of course it's from Tuesday to Wednesday :) Do you think the error rate will go up as the mappers become too sleepy? Hard to saywell if I think of myself while tracing in the night/early morning I would say, that I get more slowly but not producing more errors. What does you think? BTW at HOT mailinglist somebody offered to start a party in San Francisco. Would be sad if no party is over in the US :( bye Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Night of the living maps 07.02.2012 - a 'virtual' global mapping party
Hi US community, since a few weeks, we had the idea for a global action, that we'd like to announce today: www.nightofthelivingmaps.org At Thursday, the 07.02.2012 we stay awake a whole night long, to trace aerial imagery for the areas, that where we currently lack a lot of informations: the countryside. Outside the big cities of your counties. Sadly we have no real big international events here at OSM, maybe we can change that with this 'LAN party'? So we please you, to ask your local OSM community, if they doesn't want to start a small local party. It's not that much work, usually you can get a room by univeristy/Hackerspace/local goverment/... for free. Then you just need a few notebooks and Coffee to get the party started ;) We thought that it would be great, if you submit your changesets with a comment starting with '#notlm...', so we are able to select them for animations or just view where all of you are working. Even if it's not the main goal to promote OSM and to attract newbies, it would be great, if you could present your event to others. You will find/can upload flyers and social media contacts right here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Night_of_the_living_maps/promotion http://www.facebook.com/pages/Night-of-the-living-maps/163865540386200 https://twitter.com/NightOfTheMap But there is still enough stuff to do, for all of us: -setup animation rendering/statistics -maybe we can get a webcam wall or something similar? -add a tipstricks page for your tips on good productivity and how to surround the usual aerial tracing pitfalls Of course we know, that using just Bing, is only #2 choice for adding details to our database and that survey is what we all realy like. But in this case, we believe, that it is a good compromise (see hints in Wiki). Currently there seem to be no definitive answer if this technique is right or wrong, maybe we can decide on this when years passed and we can take a look back. So for now, let's just do what we are good at: Create together a real good map :) bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Imports information on the wiki
Am 02.01.2012 20:05, schrieb Martijn van Exel: Hi, There's a lot of imports / fixbots / scripts that have affected the US data over the years. I am finding this out slowly by slowly, asking questions here and on IRC sometimes. The Road Name Expansion script is a recent example that was discussed on the tagging list and here. Another is that there are actually two different GNIS imports. This makes it hard for mappers to focus their efforts when they first start out. Also (and as importantly), external data consumers will have a really hard time processing and using OSM data if information on imports and fixbots is not consolidated - especially if a fixbot was only run on half the country, as was the case with the name expansion. I propose a wiki editing effort to consolidate information on scripts and fixbots run in the US. I know that there is a global Import Catalog page already, and this would partially duplicate the information found there. I think it makes sense to do it anyway because: * The US is a specific and important market for many potential data consumers, and they need this info in one place * The US data is particularly strongly shaped by imports and automated edits. I have made a start here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States/Imports_And_Automated_Edits This page would replace or be integrated into the current Data page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States/Data - I did not want to overhaul that page just yet without engaging in this discussion first. So: * US imports and fixbots page: good idea? * Format of the page: good? Maybe a table format? Include more information? If so, which? * Please add / complete / modify and most importantly discuss! Hi Martijn, thanks for setting this up. Personaly I would recommend to use the Imports mainpage, as so everybody else can find them. Even /subpages isn't that wise (but I was a fan of it, too ;)) as it makes it very hard to place links and tries to build up hirachies. But a wiki is a ontology and therefore works with categories :) bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] One in a million. Are you that mapper?
Hi Richard, we're working on migrate this template to a international one http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:User_group used as a test here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rostocker_Treffen Jochen is working on a offline wiki harvester framework (for taginfo) that can be used to filter this informations and embedding it into KML as POIs. Another problem will be where to host the page with this map and where to store the KML. I guess we can do this little job on the German dev servers, if it's appreciate. By the way, for the next year I plan a how do you map in XYZ series that spots on the local communities and their problems, work flow, communication in a nice little story. But currently this is just an idea... If anyone is interested on the local groups, Frederiks Book Using and Enhancing the free world map has a free chapter about this topic: http://openstreetmap.info/content/mapping_the_world.pdf regards Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] New Community Updates Newsletter
Hi everybody, just wanted to announce the new issue of the 'Community Updates' newsletter by EMerzh http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2010-11-22 regards Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us