Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits
Of Course! The entire priest example could fix many problems...but that is a longer discussion over drinks. The US is a huge place and OSM is still this thing people hear about and don't understand. I've taught two (by tomorrow) classes to GIS people on what OSM is and what it isn't. It's a slow process educating the populace this wonderful thing exists. Editing is important to be part of the community - but the OSM US board operates both in and out or that community (if that makes sense). They announce editathons and attempt to engage support for OSM. As several have said (and I won't go back and look for the people to match with the quotes): * Engagement with the US Community. It would be wonderful if OSM US board members took the lead and held a mapping party in their community. It's not necessary - maybe they help pave the way for a more active mapper to hold an event.Colleges have a little clue this exists. Have a prepared presentation where someone can go explain OSM in a friendly non scary manner for the people who have never edited. * Women and Minorities. We are predominately Caucasian and male. That is not good. My only success in 300 kids taught at a High School is one young lady who periodically maps for HOT. * One candidate had mentioned getting a layer for the US to render our wonderfully complicated highway system. I still can't explain what a trunk road is...or isn't. * Holding the US conference - Months of paperwork with not a feature edited to get that going. * 501c3 status - I helped (I'm a terrible treasurer) and that was so complicated we had to bring in an accountant and that months of discovery on lost paypal accounts and things. I feel a personal sense of failure that still hasn't happened * There was an announcement from the board of scholarships to go to the South American OSM conference (?) - once again - no edits but paperwork type of things that push community engagement. So there are tons of things that need done that never involve one single edit. It would help if they did - but being an anything on the board never involves touching the map. I understand bringing up the editing history of candidates. It's another tool to measure engagement - but for this (IMO) it doesn't mean much at all. Hopefully by the time they leave the board they are editing and happy and doing good things. What is the current mapping engagement of the DWG?..or the OSMF? The HOT Board? It doesn't matter for that position. Our job is to map - there's will be the terrible things no one wants to do like paperwork and talk to people. Wear a suit. Look sane if they are ever speaking to an influential group of people on OSM. Anyway - that was too long of an answer for a Sunday Morning. Forgive me. Randy On 10/05/2014 06:17 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Il giorno 03/ott/2014, alle ore 21:23, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com ha scritto: It has nothing to do with being on the OSM US Board. I was on it for two years..we discussed editing, Neither of which had any bearing on that candidates experience with editing. if you are discussing editing it will surely help in the discussion to have edited yourself ;-) would you ask a catholic priest about raising kids? You'd surely get an answer, but it will remain highly theoretical;-) cheers Martin -- - Randal Hale North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale http://www.northrivergeographic.com/spatial-connect ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits
I will make an assumption (and forgive me if I'm wrong) that both candidates with 0 edits are female. I am basing this only on names and a rudimentary internet search. I think before both candidates answer that question - you need to define why they have a complete lack of OpenStreetMap experience. They have made edits. Were last years edits not good? Were the other edits from other candidates better? How many edits make an experienced mapper? Non US edits are a bad thing when running for a OSM US Position? If they had only made 59 edits this year. Randy On 10/05/2014 11:21 PM, Paul Norman wrote: On 10/5/2014 6:26 PM, Alan McConchie wrote: All of the candidates have made more than zero edits While true that all candidates have edited OSM at some point in the past, two of them have zero edits in the last year, and one of those has no US edits ever.[1] While a candidate may have other skills, I'd want to hear from them in their manifesto why those skills make up for their complete lack of OpenStreetMap experience, and why they would be more able to apply those skills as a board member, rather than volunteering them without being a board member. [1]: https://gist.github.com/pnorman/28351121d9bf12b3a219#file-01_results-txt ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- - Randal Hale North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale http://www.northrivergeographic.com/spatial-connect ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Statistics of board candidate edits
While it would be nice if a candidate has some editing experience It has nothing to do with being on the OSM US Board. I was on it for two years..we discussed editing, planned mapping events, and planned a conference. That was it. Neither of which had any bearing on that candidates experience with editing. Stick with the manifestos and plans to rule the world - editing isn't valid in this case (IMO). Randy Worst OSM US Treasurer Ever Hale. On 10/03/2014 02:30 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Il giorno 03/ott/2014, alle ore 20:13, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org ha scritto: There are many, many ways that someone could be experienced with OSM and a valuable contributor while never having made a single edit. I'm not sure, how would someone know what it is about without having done it? cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- - Randal Hale North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale http://www.northrivergeographic.com/spatial-connect ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Turn restriction dispute
+ 4 to what Mike said. What is the precedent from other bans? Is there a wiki page of bannination? Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale On 02/10/2013 11:04 AM, Michal Migurski wrote: I'm familiar with his work and have run afoul of his views in the past, most recently when I performed a large scale edit to US route relation tags, some of which he did not agree with. I don't know if any were reverted. Nevertheless, I don't see the value in running him out on a rail without more actual evidence of malice, detailed precedents from other bans, and some expectation that the OSMF could help here. These days I'm happier with NE2 than I am with the foundation, believe it or not. -mike. --- michal migurski http://mike.teczno.com On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:53 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: I don't agree. NE2’s edits, most of all the route relations, are enormously valuable to OSM in the US. I'm not aware of any precedent for banning a user like this, and I'm not eager to see one set. Mike, Your information on NE2 is grossly inaccurate. NE2 makes very few positive edits, and many, many destructive ones, as well as previous threats to make more edits that conform with his (and only his) vision of the world. I realize that from a numerical standpoint, it may seem like he is a positive contributor, but this is due to our general acceptance of people even in the face of disagreement. But in NE2's case, he is a bully, and having a bully does not serve the community well. Regarding precedent, this would not be the first person that the OSMF has had to take action on. Others have been banned, but NE2's particular brand of edit has always ridden the line, as he's not explicitly doing anything illegal (ie not copyright violation). But OSM is not his personal playground, and his view that this project is his sandbox to impose his will on (reality and community consensus be damned) is just unacceptable. It's understandable that if you are not familiar with NE2's behavior first hand, that you would see this as a a misunderstanding, but NE2's behavior has been damaging to the project for so long that we simply have no choice but to take actions to protect the project's cohesiveness. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM
Apparently my last reply was rejected from the Moderation police - and it was probably a good thing... Low wage? Low Skilled? Do as little as possible? That's not a good description of public domain data or how that data came into existence. There's a lot of good data collected by skilled people in the mapping industry that is public domain. You really need to re-think that description or provide some citation proving that assertion. Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale On 12/31/2012 1:34 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: Why does imports mean not crowdsourced, if the crowd determines which imports are source-able? Crowdsourced means that we survey the data indivdually. Why doesn't public-domain data that the crowd has funded count as crowdsourced? Because the folks collecting that data aren't part of our community; they're often low wage, low skilled workers looking to do as little as they can. That doesn't mean the data is all bad, but it's not from our community. That doesn't mean all imports are bad; in fact, I think some imports can be good, but there is a distinction to be made. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83
So I missed the whole exchange - so I read what little I see below and here are my thoughts. I don't think it's too GIS geeky - it's too OSM geeky. There are too many ways to get to a common goal - adding data. You can import, GPS, walk around, etc etc. There almost needs to be a list serve or a forum for new people - somewhere you can walk people through editing woes and problems. I agree - this list does get too bogged down in details. Don't take the following as a complaint - but is someone says So lets say that I ask for a sample GeoTIFF, which I assume is just a big graphic file similar to any other TIFF file (or jpg or whatever) an answer of For the first one you install gdal with python bindings, run gdal2tiles (and it's a Excellent answer and I'm going to try it myself on a geotiff I have here) but it's going to be too confusing for someone new especially someone in the potlatch arena or a new user just getting started. Don't assume a technical question needs a technical answer. Start Simple - build from there. Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale On 4/15/2012 2:37 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: The exchange between Frank Cox and others about importing data is a perfect example of an ongoing problem with this list: Many of the discussions and answers are simply too GIS geeky for the vast majority of us. Frank asked for a simple do x then do y kind of explanation. Several members replied, but no one but Paul Norman tried to give him that kind of answer. Unfortunately, Paul's answer contained a lot of GIS technical language. Obviously, he's very knowlegeable, but he didn't put the explanation at a level where Frank and the rest ofus could understand it. That's why reading the list often is frustrating. There's a lot of talk about technical issues and minutiae, but little guidance for those of us who just want to map using Potlatch 2, which is most of us. (By the way, what is a network, and where is it in Potlatch coding?) Also, sometimes there are snippy disputes about issues that seem obscure, which makes the list occasionally unpleasant to read. Again, for those of us who just want to map, this isn't helpful. What can be done to make Talk-US more useful for the average mapper? Charlotte At 04:59 PM 4/14/2012, you wrote: From: Frank Cox [mailto:thea...@melvilletheatre.com] Subject: Re: [Imports] tiff, dwg and nad83 On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:34:49 -0700 Paul Norman wrote: What I would suggest is to start with the GeoTiffs and go from there. All righty, now we're getting somewhere. So lets say that I ask for a sample GeoTIFF, which I assume is just a big graphic file similar to any other TIFF file (or jpg or whatever). The engineering department has these things (we assume), so he gives me a copy of one of them. I carry this thing home on my trusty flash drive (or whatever), plug it into my computer, and now I have a graphic file on my computer that I didn't have before. What now? Depending on how big it is, you can either tile it with gdal2tiles[1] or serve it with mapserver[2]. For the first one you install gdal with python bindings, run gdal2tiles on the geotiff, use a script (http://paste.ubuntu.com/928312/) to fix some names, and serve that with apache. JOSM or Potlatch can then use it as a background layer. For the second one you install gdal and mapserver and tell it to serve the geotiff and then you can add it as a background layer with JOSM or Potlatch. I had a look at your town and given that it's a very small town and the bing imagery is actually quite good, I don't know that it's worth doing any sort of import. If you wanted street names you could get them from CanVec[3]. Of course collecting street names also gives you a chance to tag businesses, amenities, etc. [1] http://gdal.org/ [2] http://mapserver.org/ [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec ___ Imports mailing list impo...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady *The Four Internet Freedoms* Freedom to visit any site on the Internet Freedom to access any content or service that is not illegal Freedom to attach any device that does not interfere with the network Freedom to know all the terms of a service, particularly any that would affect the first three freedoms. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] tiff, dwg and nad83
..and I'll end my part in this with this - I've contacted the two people I am interested in helping. I will talk to them and work our way through the problem. I am interested in getting more people editing - not arguing over the technical. As for imports - I guess I shouldn't have imported the NHD data for my region. But I did. I've improved it since the import. Parts failed - parts worked well - I've done what I can to make it better overall. I will import more data when appropriate - when it's not appropriate I will get out and manually collect and edit the data. Ask not what OSM can do for you - Ask what you can do to make the map better. We're all here to do that and attract users and editors - making answers cryptic, offering up blanket statements on user experience, and not offering help won't do it. Have a nice day Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale On 4/15/2012 5:27 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Also, the original mail in this thread was on imports, which is by its nature, a technical list. Folks who don't have a *ton* of experience shouldn't do imports, and folks with a ton of experience don't do imports. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] NHD import
I had to teach a class on Friday and it involved NHD Data. NHD data is supposed to be an ever evolving dataset. The beginning's of it are 1:24k USGS Topographic Maps. As time goes on and Lidar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIDARbecomes more prevalent the dataset will improve. Tennessee is slated to get a high resolution dataset of NHD data collected form photogrametrically acquired data in the next few years. Because NHD data is based of 1:24k quad sheets (and in come cases USFWS Wetland Maps) it's dated - in Chattanooga it's probably 40 to 50 years old. Streams change. Ponds disappear. Things become channelized. If you compare it to the NAIP or Bing Aerial Imagery in some cases it's remarkably close and in some it so far off you wonder what happened. There is also a second glitch with the data - since NHD is based off the 1:24k topo maps it's not entirely accurate. The USGS changed their definitions of what consisted of a blue line stream from it's a drain to it's got water in it. It didn't affect Lakes/Rivers so much but the blue line streams are questionable unless they are viewed with Aerial Photography (and in my opinion need to be viewed in Stereo or site visit to see what is occurring with it). I say all of that - it's better than having nothing. At least here we can improve it. Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com twitter:rjhale http://about.me/rjhale On 4/9/2012 2:11 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: On 4/9/2012 12:00 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com mailto:mve...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Remapping in CA, I come across some weird stuff. Here's some NHD 'data': http://www.openstreetmap.org/?__lat=35.17764lon=-119.12641__zoom=16 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.17764lon=-119.12641zoom=16 Either the aerial imagery is way off here, or this is just bad data. If it is, I presume that there has been a review of this data before import, this is the exception, and the vast majority of imported NHD objects actually do represent reality. I hope. -- Martijn van Exel Are you talking about the water - lakes and ponds? From reading nmixter's diary, he/she has posted comments about mapping farms. One comment suggested taking the import to the talk-us mailing list. BTW - I did just drive through some farm land in Western Washington. Farmers had dug temporary canals to help drain (or so I assumed) the water from the field so they could plant. I probably wouldn't map it unless they were permanent. Yes, I see a lot of water features that are just not corroborated by the aerial imagery, which could mean one of at least three things: 1) The aerial imagery is out of date 2) The NHD data is out of date 3) The NHD data represents something I don't understand (the future, a temporary situation (which should not be in OSM), something underground?) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
In order to improve OpenStreetMap in Chattanooga TN we are having an editing party on December 4th 2011 from 9 to 2 at the Outdoor Chattanooga Headquarters. Outdoor Chattanooga is working on releasing an OpenTripPlanner application (similar to Portland's application) and the plan is to use OpenStreetMap as the base. They want to interface with the OSM community and this is a first step to making that happen. At some point soon we will be having an actually mapping party. If you wish to help from where ever you are - please help us connect unconnected ways to help with routing people and bicycles. We will handle the tags. Bring your own laptop or use one provided. I plan on running through potlatch and JOSM and how ways need to be tagged to work with OpenTripPlanner. Breakfast will be served - and hopefully a good (and slightly frustrating) time will be had by all. Location: http://www.outdoorchattanooga.com/383.htm Time: 9a.m. to 2p.m. Randy -- Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
* Tiger Fixups - mostly intersections - we've got ways that almost connect and don't. OTP is routing around them. We're working from downtown out. * We're currently trying to collect all the Bicycle ROW/Lanes/Whatever as an ESRI shapefile. I think we have them - if so I will post them somewhere and you can use them as a reference. Outdoor Chattanooga is checking currently with the powers that be to see if we have them. * I've also got a TMS of 2010 Hamilton County imagery at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Servers/Imagery * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 11/29/2011 1:19 PM, Mike N wrote: On 11/29/2011 9:46 AM, Randal Hale wrote: If you wish to help from where ever you are - please help us connect unconnected ways to help with routing people and bicycles. We will handle the tags. What types of missing connections should we look for? TIGER fixups - bridges, county border connection, dual carriageway, etc? Sidewalks to roads? Cycleway to roads? I might get a block of time this weekend. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
I have no clue either - it was a question I had. I can't imagine it's needed - but it was something I had asked. We have a major road that OTP is skipping - My second guess was because it had no sidewalks. I haven't had a chance to go back and look. On 11/29/2011 2:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote: * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I know, it's legal to walk (against vehicle traffic) on the majority of roads without improved sidewalks in every U.S. state. Or if you're talking about routing software, I doubt there's enough sidewalk tagging that any of them have decided to prefer roads with sidewalks. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
You got it. My goal is to enable Outdoor Chattanooga to get this OpenTripPlanner stuff up an going. We've got a developer from Atlanta with OpenPlans and several other people of different development status (Java, web) helping - I'm gladly sticking with what I barely know - OSM. On 11/29/2011 2:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 11/29/2011 2:28 PM, Randal Hale wrote: I have no clue either - it was a question I had. I can't imagine it's needed - but it was something I had asked. We have a major road that OTP is skipping - My second guess was because it had no sidewalks. I haven't had a chance to go back and look. So by need you mean wrt routing software. Gotcha. On 11/29/2011 2:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote: * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I know, it's legal to walk (against vehicle traffic) on the majority of roads without improved sidewalks in every U.S. state. Or if you're talking about routing software, I doubt there's enough sidewalk tagging that any of them have decided to prefer roads with sidewalks. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] REST Services
I know there's probably a better list to send this to... The county (Hamilton County, TN) I reside in is pumping out their 2010 Imagery over a REST Service or whatever I'm supposed to call it. I can completely use this in Arcmap. Can I use this in Merkaartor or JOSM? So far I have found a few other messages from people with the same problem digging around on the intertubes - but no answer. It may be right in front of me and I'm just not seeing it. Thanks, Randy -- Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] REST Services
http://www.esri.com/library/whitepapers/pdfs/geoservices-rest-spec.pdf This was on my list to learn aboutI guess I can start marking this off the list. I get a feeling I'm about to learn. I can use ESRI's OSMEditor to take advantage of this new found image goodnessI prefer JOSM for all my editing though... Randy On 10/23/2011 9:54 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: I know there's probably a better list to send this to... The county (Hamilton County, TN) I reside in is pumping out their 2010 Imagery over a REST Service or whatever I'm supposed to call it. I can completely use this in Arcmap. Can I use this in Merkaartor or JOSM? So far I have found a few other messages from people with the same problem digging around on the intertubes - but no answer. It may be right in front of me and I'm just not seeing it. REST isn't an API but a type of API; an API pattern. The OSM 0.6 API is RESTful, for example. To use an API, developers need access to the API documentation, just saying it's RESTful isn't enough. So is this documentation available somewhere? - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] REST Services
Yes - they're an ESRI shop - it's arcserver 10. I had no idea they were sharing out their data in this manner. It's actually quite shocking considering if you look at their prices for data. I've seen talk of a plugin for JOSMand I've searched and haven't found one. I figure this has the chance of happening more and more and being a good problem - counties/cities sharing their data out...well - at least imagery. Anywho, Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 10/23/2011 10:38 AM, Craig Hinners wrote: The county must be running ESRI stuff on their back end, which is why they are exposing their data via ESRI's REST API. That would also explain why their imagery is supported in ESRI's tools. JOSM would need to support this ESRI REST API in order for you to consume the county's data. If JOSM doesn't already have this support baked in, it may be able to be added to JOSM via a plugin. That might be a worthwhile endeavor if a lot of agencies are starting to publicly expose their data via this API. By the way, if I recall correctly, JOSM uses another ESRI API for USGS imagery, which is based on XML web services (which is way more complicated and verbose than REST). So if JOSM is able to use that ESRI API, I have to think support can be added for this other one. But I'm nary the JOSM expert. Is there a JOSM mailing list? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] REST Services
http://maps.hamiltontn.gov/ArcGIS/services Hopefully this is correct - this is how I access it from ArcGIS. On 10/23/2011 11:11 AM, Ian Dees wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com mailto:rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: I know there's probably a better list to send this to... The county (Hamilton County, TN) I reside in is pumping out their 2010 Imagery over a REST Service or whatever I'm supposed to call it. I can completely use this in Arcmap. Can I use this in Merkaartor or JOSM? So far I have found a few other messages from people with the same problem digging around on the intertubes - but no answer. It may be right in front of me and I'm just You're probably talking about ArcGIS's REST interface. It's basically a simplified or RESTful WMS service. There is no way to access the ArcGIS REST interface directly from JOSM at this point. There might be a way to hack it with the undocumented Imagery keywords, but what I've been doing is adding it to the tile.osm.osuosl.org http://tile.osm.osuosl.org tile server [0] as a tile proxy source and using it from there. If you give me the REST API's URL I can add that relatively quickly and spit back a tile URL you can add to JOSM or Potlatch. [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Servers/Imagery ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] REST Services
Let me get to a stopping point with what I am doing and I will update it. Thanks much Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 10/23/2011 11:47 AM, Ian Dees wrote: http://tile.osm.osuosl.org/tn_hamilton_2010/13/2155/3243.png ... is an example tile proxied from the county's ArcGIS server. I need to catch a bus so it would be great if someone could update the Imagery wiki page I linked to earlier. On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com mailto:rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: http://maps.hamiltontn.gov/ArcGIS/services Hopefully this is correct - this is how I access it from ArcGIS. On 10/23/2011 11:11 AM, Ian Dees wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com mailto:rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: I know there's probably a better list to send this to... The county (Hamilton County, TN) I reside in is pumping out their 2010 Imagery over a REST Service or whatever I'm supposed to call it. I can completely use this in Arcmap. Can I use this in Merkaartor or JOSM? So far I have found a few other messages from people with the same problem digging around on the intertubes - but no answer. It may be right in front of me and I'm just You're probably talking about ArcGIS's REST interface. It's basically a simplified or RESTful WMS service. There is no way to access the ArcGIS REST interface directly from JOSM at this point. There might be a way to hack it with the undocumented Imagery keywords, but what I've been doing is adding it to the tile.osm.osuosl.org http://tile.osm.osuosl.org tile server [0] as a tile proxy source and using it from there. If you give me the REST API's URL I can add that relatively quickly and spit back a tile URL you can add to JOSM or Potlatch. [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Servers/Imagery ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] REST Services
Wiki page updated... Imagery displayed in JOSM ...and I can no longer complain If I only had the newest imagery. Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 10/23/2011 3:58 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com mailto:j...@joshdoe.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com mailto:rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: I know there's probably a better list to send this to... The county (Hamilton County, TN) I reside in is pumping out their 2010 Imagery over a REST Service or whatever I'm supposed to call it. I can completely use this in Arcmap. Can I use this in Merkaartor or JOSM? So far I have found a few other messages from people with the same problem digging around on the intertubes - but no answer. It may be right in front of me and I'm just You're probably talking about ArcGIS's REST interface. It's basically a simplified or RESTful WMS service. There is no way to access the ArcGIS REST interface directly from JOSM at this point. There might be a way to hack it with the undocumented Imagery keywords, but what I've been doing is adding it to the tile.osm.osuosl.org http://tile.osm.osuosl.org tile server [0] as a tile proxy source and using it from there. If you give me the REST API's URL I can add that relatively quickly and spit back a tile URL you can add to JOSM or Potlatch. Sounds like the same interface that Virginia uses for their VBMP orthoimagery. Just so others know, if the projection offered by the ArcGIS server isn't OSM-style (EPSG:3857, EPSG:900913, etc), and the Export Map functionality isn't backed by raw imagery (i.e. it's just tiled at the given projection, such as one of the state plane systems), then it's likely Ian's method won't work. Unfortunately this is the case with Virginia's server. The tiles are working for the imagery in question here. I don't think we ever figured out what was going on with the Virginia imagery that the export functionality wasn't working. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] US local chapter board election results
Yippee for me - I'm at a workshop tomorrow and I'll do my best to be on the call. I don't want to miss the first meeting. Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 10/12/2011 2:47 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote: I agree about the idea of the handoff agenda, but with or without, I will also be in the meeting tomorrow. We should at least go in with some goals on what we plan to accomplish this year, and discuss if those goals are practical and how we can work together to help each other with our goals, and how our goals fit with the goals of the greater OSM US. I'm going to try to be on the IRC channel more often as well. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com mailto:rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com mailto:m...@stamen.com wrote: Hey, cool! Thanks everyone. I'm excited to get started with Martijn, Randy, Jim, and Richard. According to the wiki page there is a monthly chapter meeting tomorrow, but the most recent one was six months ago. I'll dial the number tomorrow and see what happens. =) Perhaps the outgoing board can help you to put together an agenda, here on the list? I'm sure they'll have some thoughts on a smooth transition as well. Also #osm-us is a low traffic irc channel that might work for you. #osm-us is on irc.oftc.net http://irc.oftc.net, and available from the browser at http://irc.openstreetmap.org/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] FYI - user Justinb in western GA
Since I'm in Chattanooga and next to the super bridge at the TN/GA border I'll send him a message today offering help. That stretch that he has called a bridge is elevated out of the flood plain.. The road bed is has been built up about 10 to 15 feet in most places to get it out of flooding...and it floods regularly. If you traveled along this section during a flood event I can completely see someone calling it a bridge. There's water along the east side and in the median. In the worst events (and we've had quite a few in the last 4 months) the northbound lane is out of the water by a foot or less..but then if you're even slightly familiar with imagery/photography you can see it's not. Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 10/8/2011 1:13 AM, James Mast wrote: I know NE2 has already contacted him as well as I alerted him about this user (I also alerted Mike). I think this user did know he was editing the database by this comment he did leave on his first ever changeset, Merged 85 (see: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9401877). However, all of his other edits didn't have a comment. But, he was using Potlatch 2.2 for all his edits, and since it doesn't have a live mode like 1 did, he had to at least acknowledge that he was making a change before it got uploaded. I also see in http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9427607 that he created two super long false bridges on I-75 near the GA/TN border which isn't good. :( -- James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Chattanooga OSM Meeting on 7/21/2011
Update on the meeting. We had 6 people attend. I was really only expecting about 3. Out of the 6, two of us were very familiar with OSM. The other four had no experience. I gave them a brief run through of OpenStreetMap - past, present, and who, what, why. I asked that they all get logins and we think for the first attempt at a mapping project we are going to try to get the bicycle infrastructure in town (lanes). If anyone has trouble they can all get in touch with me and I can walk them through it. Unfortunately Internet went down as the meeting began and was sketchy the rest of the night. We had one attendee from Outdoor Chattanooga. They promote outdoor activities around the tri-state area. Jenny Parks is going to check about holding an OSM event at Outdoor Chattanooga sometime shortly. Most importantly - Media (radio and newspaper). They have several outlets to spread the word. Bringing them into the mix gives us access to a lot of groups: cycling, hiking, canoeing, etc. They appear interested in - and here's where I get lost - building an Outdoor Chattanooga map. They don't have one. So from my limited experience in all this it would involve some sort of custom mapnik or something similar to OpenCycleMap. Which reminds me, I noticed before the meeting OpenCycleMap appears to have not updated in a month around Chattanooga. Anyway, So the trick is going to be meeting #2. Randy -- Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Chattanooga OSM Meeting on 7/21/2011
I suggested last night that if they wanted to do something really easy - start with their neighborhood and use mine as an example. Fix the roads and just explore the map. I think out of the 6 of us, 4 will continue mapping. One of them being the employee from Outdoor Chattanooga. If I can keep her going it will spread to other groups. The other experienced mapper is working on the county to open up some of their data layers - especially the new imagery that was acquired last year. I've tried but it needs to come from a different voice. Overall - I think good things will happen - I am excited about the mapping event. They have a good facility - place for presentations - and a place to set up some laptops to help with editing (I teach ArcGIS classes so I have a laptop lab that can be set up pretty quickly). Now that I have the first one down and I know there are at least two of us committed I can bring in some high school teachers and some local university professors and expand. I had 6 participants at this one - I'll try to get 8 to 10 at the next one. I've had good luck with a local high school. It just needs to be a bit more controlled than the teacher wishes - that's a long story for another time. Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 7/22/2011 9:31 AM, Richard Weait wrote: On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: Update on the meeting. We had 6 people attend. I was really only expecting about 3. Out of the 6, two of us were very familiar with OSM. The other four had no experience. Fantastic! Four potential new mappers is a huge success. [ ... ] Unfortunately Internet went down as the meeting began and was sketchy the rest of the night. Arrrgh! The bane of our events; flaky connectivity! When the experienced : new numbers are close, I've found that newbies like to 'lead' the coaching, rather than having a 'formal' lecturer / listener presentation style. They often have to be tricked into leading it though. If you can lead them to doing something in OSM that is immediately interesting to them, the whole OSM thing seems to 'stick' better. The alternative to this is the presentation style, in which i talk about OSM origins and history, goals and milestones. I might go on for 20 minutes and then mention, OpenCycleMap. If the new mapper is leading the conversation, we can get to that part that interests them sooner. Me: So glad you could join us. What is it about OSM that brought you here? New Mapper: Well the new bike trail in my neighbourhood isn't on the map... Me: [sliding computer over to new mapper] show me on this map where the bike trail should appear. Five minutes later New Mapper: Wow! I added the bike trail and it is already showing on the map. OSM is great! Me: We know. There is plenty of time, between mouse clicks for history and project goals, but the mapper who has already accomplished something they care about is already one of us. With a few more new mappers, you want to try to be in more places at once. If they all have their laptops with them, you are in great shape. Show a few slides for 1) register for OSM account. 2) zoom in to your neighbourhood or another place you know well. 3) find something that is wrong or missing 4) fix it. [ ... ] They appear interested in - and here's where I get lost - building an Outdoor Chattanooga map. They don't have one. So from my limited experience in all this it would involve some sort of custom mapnik or something similar to OpenCycleMap. Sure, that's one approach. You might find a dozen or so ways to do this depending on what they want, and what they want to spend. A full mapnik layer might be more than they want to gnaw on initially, but it is a fantastic option to show them what a Full OSM implementation might look like. Freemap Slovakia uses this approach, with a custom rendering of their area of interest, and default rendering for the rest of the world. http://www.freemap.sk/#p=48.935|19.67528|7|A Or they might want an Event Calendar Map that shows clickable information boxes on their locations. The OSM user group map shows this approach. http://usergroups.openstreetmap.de/?zoom=5lat=39.23225lon=-98.83301layers=B0T And many variations on these themes. The first step though, in my mind, is get them to put data into OSM. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Apologies
I think my business newsletter went out to this group. If so I greatly apologize - it was not my intent. I went back and removed the email address. I do apologize - won't happen again. Sorry, Randy -- Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Meeting of Chattanooga TN OSM group July 21 2011
Really I think this is probably a moot point - since I'm the only one in the area on Talk-US.but hey - you never know. Facebook Announcement: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=219131011462405 Meetup: http://www.meetup.com/Openstreetmap/Chattanooga-TN/289571/?a=bn6_l1 (and I'm not sure if I did this right) First meeting: Mellow Mushroom, Downtown Chattanooga http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.054238lon=-85.310999zoom=18layers=M Time: 7:00 PM till you get tired... Topic: OSM, Beer, Pizzanot necessarily in that order. We're going to get logins and cover some basic editing...and really the Why and How of OSM. I expect this first one will just be a meet and greet and get everyone talking. So far we have people from government, private industry, non profits, and one guy that just likes maps. I've had one suggestion for a mapping project - I'm thinking about doing a project of the month/quarter - the one suggestion has been bicycle oriented. I think that will be simple enough (HA) for us to get started with: Bicycle Parking (those of us with more experience will do lanes). Come one, Come all, Have fun. Enjoy the heat. Randy -- Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Announcing the Chattanooga OpenStreetMap Users Group
Hey - I thought you might have been here - toss yourself off lookout mountain on a hang glider by chance? Hurricane tweeted that she was here. I've been actually talking to outdoor chattanooga about mapping bike routes an hour ago. The person there had no idea about OSM - so now I might have them helping me map all the bicycle parking and lanes in the Countywhich will help fix the roadswhich will help many other things. SotM is currently under debate. I was coming for FOSS4g but decided I might just do SOTM and goof around Colorado. I've got to check my calendar. Life is getting quite hectic - which is a nice diversion from last year. Randy Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 7/11/2011 5:08 PM, Steve Coast wrote: Sounds awesome Randal. Was just in Chattanooga the other week. I will do a post about leaflets in a minute that might be of use to you. You coming to SotM? Steve On 7/9/2011 7:11 AM, Randal Hale wrote: So I tried to come up with a more interesting name...Chattamappers...ChooChoo Cartographers.Pork Chop and the Def MapMakingIdiots..and my favorite: The Barry Manilow Experience. I ended up just going with the idea and gave up on the name. Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/123483951073256?ap=1 Wiki:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Chattanooga Business Page: http://www.northrivergeographic.com/open-street-map So anyway - I started fooling around with OSM a couple of years ago through a weird turn of events. I've been hacking away at the map - Actually myself and another mapper T-9 (Tim) have been making a lot of edits. I've had a local High school helping.which has been good and bad. Kids have gotten interested in Mapping..Kids make a lot of mistakes. I'm cleaning up the kid's mistakes now. Other people have been cleaning up my mistakesit's all one giant learning experience. I've helped with the OSM edits in Georgianot enough I must add. I was learning when all that started. I've got a pile of college students here in town that want to learn about GIS, so we're going to cover a little bit of everything (OSM, ArcGIS, QGIS, Data, etc, etc) . I've hooked up with Outdoor Chattanooga and hope to spread some of the OSM love with the outdoor community. I almost feel like we're a GIS users group instead of OSM...but hey it all ties in together. One Goal is to reel in the county's GIS department at some point. My life as a consultant makes that a bit of a hard sell (Tennessee has some backwards ideas about data and data sharing IMHO). Plus we never really hit it off - so I'm hoping I can get a different voice to carry the same message. I'm also trying to connect with these guys - http://www.chattanooga3d.com/ . I think this initiative died a few months back. They did get some press out of this - I'll try to get some more. So anyway - announcements will be made. Food will be eaten. Beer will be drunkendrinkedand the map will get better in this area. Talk to you guys later, Randy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Pre-SOTM-US Gathering
Raging Burrito at 7:00 - I can't make it but it will be good. Thea and Kate are going there tonight as is a group from Atlanta. You can take MARTA and arrive two blocks from the restaurant. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=33.774155lon=-84.294741zoom=18layers=M (it should appear in the center of the screen) On 8/13/2010 1:43 PM, Mike N. wrote: Are there any plans for a get together at a bar or restaurant tonight in Atlanta before we kick things off tommorow? If there aren't yet does anyone want to make some? Yes - http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=62 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Authorized Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com http://wordpress.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] National Wetlands Inventory
It's been my experience way back when in a past life that the Wetlands Inventory (while busier and therefore appears to have more data) really wasn't all that great spatially. We would use it for a reference for mapping - as in there should be a wetland here and then interpret the correct location of the wetland. I would just use it as a reference and use the NHD.. Randy -- Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Authorized Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com http://wordpress.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 8/12/2010 12:40 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Hmm. It sounds like we want the routability of the NHD reach-code system with the accuracy and completeness of the Wetland Inventory. I wonder if there's some gotcha in the FWS dataset that would make it inappropriate to use. For example, I see a lot of freshwater areas that are really inundation/flood control areas in my area. It would be difficult for an import to tell the difference between those two things. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com mailto:sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not an expert on either of these data sets, but I know enough to say that USGS sponsored the development of the NHD, largely to replace the old digital line graph (DLG) products. NHD serves as a multi-purpose inventory of surface waters, grouped by watershed. OTOH, FWS sponsored development of Natl Wetlands Inventory, largely as a basis for habitat suitability. The data may overlap, but they serve two different purposes/missions. SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:12, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if our friends at the USGS know about this data. If they do, there must be a good reason why they aren't using it for NHD, since I was under the impression that NHD was the authoritative dataset for waterways in the US. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com mailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with the National Wetlands Inventory: http://www.fws.gov/wetlands/ At first glance it looks like better-quality data than the NHD for both wetlands and water. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How to get college students involved?
Greetings, One of the things I've done is work with a local High School and introduced them to OSM through Mapzen. Mapzen is comparable to potlatch. Use mapzen and use the wiki to look up the things you're putting in - i.e. - parking lots. Look at all the tags/things that can go into that - the two make for a great learning tool. I'm a pretty competent ArcMap user - My path with OSM editing has been Potlatch - Mapzen - Meerkartor - JOSM. I still make a ton of mistakes - but it's fun - I would even say relaxing. Take a look - Mapzen.cloudmade.com Randy On 8/6/2010 1:00 PM, Stefan Brandle wrote: Hi. The following may be outside your time and interest scope, but I am interested in hearing from anybody who is willing to nibble on my requests. I have never actually done any mapping work, but joined this list and lurked with the hope of starting to learn about the tools and issues. I teach computer science at a university about half way between Indianapolis and Ft. Wayne. I would love to have someone show us how to get involved mapping precise data locally and submitting it to various online data sets, or working on software that is helpful to OSM and others. We have students who need senior projects, and also run the occasional special topics class. If anybody is interested, I would like to start a dialog, or at least get some pointers to the right direction. -- sb Stefan Brandle, Taylor University Computer Science and Engineering sbran...@cse.taylor.edu, Telephone: 765-998-4685 FAX: 765-998-4940 http://www.cse.taylor.edu/~sbrandle, http://www.facebook.com/TaylorCSE ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Authorized Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com http://wordpress.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S.
I have been bringing up the meetings at the GA URISA luncheons - no one there reads the minutes or looks at the WIKI ( I asked).I would focus more on the website. Several people at the luncheons have been going there and are planning on signing up (I have the event listed on the GA URISA website) Kate - if I get people who want to volunteer at the luncheons should I forward them to you? Like I have a vote -but if I did - I vote for Steve to sponsor..SteveC sets fire to the US STOTM (We need a good Sherman reference - that goes over well in Atlanta). Randal Hale, GISP GA URISA Education and Outreach Chair (p)423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com http://www.northrivergeographic.com http://wordpress.northrivergeographic.com -Original Message- From: talk-us-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-us-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Kate Chapman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:09 PM To: SteveC Cc: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S. Steve, Sorry there haven't been meetings. We have discussed it some within the OSM US board meetings. I realize this is not very a community and should be rectified. The volunteers in Georgia have a conflict with the previous meeting time. I've been handling sponsorship, we will put up a list of sponsors once someone actually writes a check. I have verbal promises from 6 or 7 groups at the moment. Would you like to sponsor? You could be our first. -Kate On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The minutes still haven't been updated in 3 months. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_SOTM Have there been meetings? Is anyone even in charge of sponsorship? On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, what will the entry fee cost? can we find sponsors to help cover the costs? -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org Chat Google Talk: JamesMikeDuPont Skype: h4ck3rm1k3 MSN: water_proof Contact Me On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hey All, We've gotten some great submissions for talks/workshops at SOTM U.S. We could still use more! Have something you'd like to talk about regarding OSM? It could be technical, community related or even an OSM comedy routine. To participate go here: http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=2 SOTM U.S. is August 14-15 in Atlanta, Georgia. -Kate ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us have fun, Steve Coast / stevecoast.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
