Re: [Talk-us] Sabotage or a really bad bot?

[Greg Morgan]

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Charlotte Wolter 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Looks like, given Paul's information, that I just have to go in and
> correct as many as I can.
> This is an occasional issue with TIGER data. Somehow, when an
> address is located at the end of a driveway, especially long driveways,
> the driveway is given the street name. It may be a thing with TIGER
> software. Having worked on the Census, I know they create streets by
> marking a GPS point for every address. So, somehow the processing of
> the information they get, driveways become streets.
> I'll keep working on it.
>

I think that you are doing the wrong thing here.  The data came from the
Virgina to Census as is.  It is not like the Census made a mistake here.
That's how the jurisdiction maps their area.  To remove the street names or
the driveways is wrong for the area.  I make my statements based on the
prior version.  Dave Hansen brought those driveways as the were.  The
bot-mode expanded a the names and removed moved a few Tiger tags.  You'll
have remove the names from a larger portion than just Rustburg. I don't
think that you are being respectful of the local customs by imposing your
jurisdictions customs on their area.

Regards,
Greg Morgan
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Re: [Talk-us] Sabotage or a really bad bot?

[Rihards]

On 2017.04.04. 01:35, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
> 
> Yes, Rihards, I've been doing this since 2009, so I know what a
> driveway is.
> Maybe you should check my woerk to make sure I'm doing it right
> ... NOT!

hmm... that might have come across wrong - did not mean to imply you
doing anything wrong, just mentioned an approach seen before with other
mappers, and it seemed like a simple thing to check - maybe even meant
more for a casual list-reader who might get an impression that driveways
are not welcome in osm.

sorry if the sparse message did not transfer that well between our
cultures - i'll put the blame about the short content without smalltalk
on the lack of time ;)

> Charlotte Wolter
> 
> 
> At 01:54 AM 4/3/2017, you wrote:
>> On 2017.04.03. 04:26, Charlotte Wolter wrote: > Hello, > > I
>> came across a really weird situation while doing a Maproulette >
>> change. > In Rustberg, a small town in rural Virginia >
>> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/37.2772/-79.1011),  >
>> almost every driveway has been named after the street it intersects.
>> In > addition, numerous very short "driveways" have been created, some
>> of > which go nowhere. > The edits all were done four years
>> ago, it seems. Here is the > message about the edits: "Edited almost 4
>> years ago by bot-mode > Version #2 · Changeset #15805152." >
>> I removed most of the names and the "driveways" in town, but > they
>> continued well out of town, and finally I gave up. Could someone >
>> take a look at this and, perhaps, reverse the change set? >
>> Thanks the driveways, did you check with sat imagery ? were they at
>> least near what looked like roads or not ? > Charlotte > > > Charlotte
>> Wolter > 927 18th Street Suite A > Santa Monica, California > 90403 >
>> +1-310-597-4040 > techl...@techlady.com > Skype: thetechlady > > > >
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> Charlotte Wolter
> 927 18th Street Suite A
> Santa Monica, California
> 90403
> +1-310-597-4040
> techl...@techlady.com
> Skype: thetechlady
> 
> 


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Re: [Talk-us] Sabotage or a really bad bot?

[Charlotte Wolter]

Hello,

Looks like, given Paul's information, that I just have to go in and
correct as many as I can.
This is an occasional issue with TIGER data. Somehow, when an
address is located at the end of a driveway, especially long driveways,
the driveway is given the street name. It may be a thing with TIGER
software. Having worked on the Census, I know they create streets by
marking a GPS point for every address. So, somehow the processing of
the information they get, driveways become streets.
I'll keep working on it.

--C




At 01:54 AM 4/3/2017, you wrote:

On 2017.04.03. 04:26, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I came across a really weird situation while doing a Maproulette
> change.
> In Rustberg, a small town in rural Virginia
> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/37.2772/-79.1011),
> almost every driveway has been named after the street it intersects. In
> addition, numerous very short "driveways" have been created, some of
> which go nowhere.
> The edits all were done four years ago, it seems. Here is the
> message about the edits: "Edited almost 4 years ago by bot-mode
> Version #2 · Changeset #15805152."
> I removed most of the names and the "driveways" in town, but
> they continued well out of town, and finally I gave up. Could someone
> take a look at this and, perhaps, reverse the change set?
> Thanks

the driveways, did you check with sat imagery ?
were they at least near what looked like roads or not ?

> Charlotte
>
>
> Charlotte Wolter
> 927 18th Street Suite A
> Santa Monica, California
> 90403
> +1-310-597-4040
> techl...@techlady.com
> Skype: thetechlady
>
>
>
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Charlotte Wolter
927 18th Street Suite A
Santa Monica, California
90403
+1-310-597-4040
techl...@techlady.com
Skype: thetechlady



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Re: [Talk-us] Sabotage or a really bad bot?

[Rihards]

On 2017.04.03. 04:26, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I came across a really weird situation while doing a Maproulette
> change.
> In Rustberg, a small town in rural Virginia
> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/37.2772/-79.1011),
> almost every driveway has been named after the street it intersects. In
> addition, numerous very short "driveways" have been created, some of
> which go nowhere.
> The edits all were done four years ago, it seems. Here is the
> message about the edits: "Edited almost 4 years ago by bot-mode
> Version #2 · Changeset #15805152."
> I removed most of the names and the "driveways" in town, but
> they continued well out of town, and finally I gave up. Could someone
> take a look at this and, perhaps, reverse the change set?
> Thanks

the driveways, did you check with sat imagery ?
were they at least near what looked like roads or not ?

> Charlotte
> 
> 
> Charlotte Wolter
> 927 18th Street Suite A
> Santa Monica, California
> 90403
> +1-310-597-4040
> techl...@techlady.com
> Skype: thetechlady
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-us] Sabotage or a really bad bot?

[Paul Norman]

On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote:


I came across a really weird situation while doing a 
Maproulette change.
In Rustberg, a small town in rural Virginia 
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/37.2772/-79.1011), 
almost every driveway has been named after the street it intersects. 
In addition, numerous very short "driveways" have been created, some 
of which go nowhere.
The edits all were done four years ago, it seems. Here is the 
message about the edits: "Edited almost 4 years ago by bot-mode
Version #2 · Changeset #15805152." 



They were created 9 years ago with the TIGER import: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/19903814/history. The change 4 years 
ago was just a name change and not related to what you're observing.


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