Scheduler in TB beta 1.63.06
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I'm new, here. So, this may already have come up. Using just Alt-F6 doesn't seem to bring up the Scheduler. Alt-T-H does. - -- Best regards, Bill Kraskimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPk8ci1+k60BsXnM1EQLzOACgjWBz1HD0dzm973I8EObWzr9L2VMAn2kJ NwS4RI9+3TLX3VPIYfaIUsBX =FsFd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: invitation to vote
Hello Oleg Titov, On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:03:43 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, February 8, 2003, 2:03:43 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Oleg Titov wrote: > I need to admit that your argumentation is very strong. > I cast my -100 vote on my invitation. Yeah, there is no need for it. > Voting is closed ;-) I cannot see that voting on development is going to anything but a waste of time and a potential headache for everybody. Epecially if voted items donot get done for reasons which may be perfectly clear to the devlopers but not to the users... At least having been in development years ago I know what I would have done if this was suggested... Anyway, agreed with above vote (is -100 the minimum vote?? (g)) -- Best regards, tracer Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Editor proposal
Hello James, <[On 2/15/2003 at 6:23 PM, you said:]-> > I'd think it would be very practical to all recipients of html > messages. As for implementation, I'd like to see a button on the > viewer that could override any html message to one's default > settings. Dennis Hayes employs the use of something similar on > this site http://www.haysdesign.com/ and similar usage is > displayed here as well: > http://www.alistapart.com/stories/alternate/ > We already have this power in TB, as you note, provided that no > absolutes are declared. The above examples are possible answers > to those messages that do have absolute declarations. <---[END QUOTE]> For further amplification, http://www.haysdesign.com uses CSS completely and no tables for a background grid. On the right side of the main page, there is a link that switches the CSS style sheet to another that declares a different color scheme. That same idea can also be used to switch to a style sheet for those needing larger type, or more contrast, or to create a different scheme entirely for printing. All I have done is separate content from style. -- Best, Dennis http://www.DigitalSauces.com http://www.haysdesign.com Replied on Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 8:39 PM (-5.00 GMT) Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: HTML Editor proposal
Hello Allie, <[On 2/15/2003 at 4:16 PM, you said:]-> > I think you misunderstood me. > I write a message to you in HTML. I define no fonts and defined one > font size, i.e., +1 and emboldened it to stress a phrase. > When I read the message, the font size will be 11 and the +1 font > size will be 12. Why? My default font size here is 11. > When another person who uses a smaller screen resolution and > therefore prefers to read with size 9 font. The font size for most > of the text will be size 9, and the +1 font size, size 10. > etc. etc. > However, if you define an absolute size. I guess the word absolute > was bad. I do realize that the same font at size 10 will look > different on different monitors and at different resolutions. This > is exactly the reason why I believe it shouldn't be used. Let the > recipient determine what font sizes are readable for him/her. To do > this, don't define a font size and change font sizes only in a > relative way. <---[END QUOTE]> Now, we're on the same frequency. Absolute font sizes are a problem, but +1 is not absolute. It's relative to the user's setting. I agree with you completely and, by doing this, the message would be clear to all as to intent and as to any emphasis. -- Best, Dennis http://www.DigitalSauces.com http://www.haysdesign.com Replied on Saturday, February 15, 2003 at 8:35 PM (-5.00 GMT) Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 1.63 beta 6
ST> For those times, just select all entries, exclude those you don't need and use the ">" button Yes .. i could use alt-a or select the top then shift select bottom then > then find the ones i dont want. OR i could click through the list one at a time skipping the ones i dont want .. But why was this changed? And will it be fixed (put back to the way it has worked for years). Is this a necessary change so we can have a email program that does schedualling .. Instead of reporting problems in betas i guess i should just learn to use it the way it is thanks for the reply _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Editor proposal
Hello Stefan, On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, at 12:03:17 [GMT -0500] (which was 12:03:17 PM in NY, USA) Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > Well, this is just another reason of implementing HTML in The Bat! - > we can grab more people from "out there" and teach them how mailing > should look like so nobody gets hurt :-) Indeed. It is also important to remember that the majority of our html recipients will still be OE/OL users. We want to give them a good experience as a recipient of our messages, not one that clashes with everything they do with OE. IOW, we don't want to get in a formatting war...we'll lose no mater how correct we may be. > TO ALL: if you remember, in my New Year greeting, I was asking if > somebody wants to write an essay about proper HTML messaging (let's > disregard the opinion it should not be used at all - it is too > idealistic ). Does anybody has any thoughts about it? Stefan, I'd love to be a part of this as long as it remains an open essay. I'd hate to have my essay or another's essay chosen for use if it disagrees with many TB users opinions. With that in mind, I'd propose a separate temporary mailing list, message board, or the like so as not to clutter the ones in place or force those who wish to participate be hard pressed to locate all pertinent messages. For the final usage of whatever is compiled, I'd suggest a pop-up or bubble tip type display instead of an essay. I doubt people migrating from OE would read such an essay. But let's say they click the button to set their font color and a bubble pops up reminding them that setting a color may prevent recipients with similar background colors from properly viewing their masterpiece. Of course, TB users should have the ability to globally disable these tips. -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.63 Beta/6 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Editor proposal
Hello Allie, On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, at 15:28:15 [GMT -0500] (which was 3:28:15 PM in NY, USA) Allie Martin wrote: > Another thing that concerns me is the reverse situation, where I'm > the victim of this auto-defining of font faces and sizes. What if your html editor preview were to be configured per your default html *view* settings while your actual message were to default to be sans background color, font size, and font face? If TB's html editor *view* were not directly linked to the message's code, this could go smoothly, IMO. But such a thing would confuse a lot of people migrating from OE/OL. > However, this isn't always good since the plain text version > may not contain vital formatting that's in the HTML version, a > typical example being the HTML mail sender deciding to use > differently coloured text to distinguish quoted from new text > and abandoning quote prefixes. I think the use of multipart messages is the answer here. > How practical is it to implement the means to override these > font face and size tags as well as background, or even to > increase the font size when viewing? I'd think it would be very practical to all recipients of html messages. As for implementation, I'd like to see a button on the viewer that could override any html message to one's default settings. Dennis Hayes employs the use of something similar on this site http://www.haysdesign.com/ and similar usage is displayed here as well: http://www.alistapart.com/stories/alternate/ We already have this power in TB, as you note, provided that no absolutes are declared. The above examples are possible answers to those messages that do have absolute declarations. -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.63 Beta/6 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Please enlighten me!
Hello Spike, On Saturday, February 15, 2003, 4:28:36 PM, in a galaxy far, far away, Spike wrote: S> Hello Stefan, S> Could you please give me a simple explanation as to how the S> mail databases are 'compressed?' Sorry list, this was intended to be private to Stefan :-( Perhaps his reply, if posted would be of interest to more than just me however? -- Warmest tropical regards, Spike "Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time." Steven Wright. ~~ Using TheBat! v1.61 hamstrung by Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 ~~ Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Please enlighten me!
Hello Stefan, Could you please give me a simple explanation as to how the mail databases are 'compressed?' It's my guess that the TBI file is read, and the TBB file is copied (less the deleted messages in the file) and copied to a new file, which is finally renamed to MESSAGES.TBB. What I'd like to know is; 1. Where is the temporary file written during compression? 2. What is the order in which the process runs? As an aside, I'd like to help test the message base repair utility, as I presently have 2 message bases that are 'broken' due to exceeding maximum FAT32 file size. I CAN read the files (if converted to messages.UUE) in WinZip, but cannot get the file reduced to where TB! can handle it again. A possible remedy would be to be able to 'split' the file into two equal smaller parts, then delete some messages and compress the files before merging them back together. The trick would be to be sure the proper messages & attachments are included together in each file! -- Warmest tropical regards, Spike "A bad day with Reagan or Bush was better than any day with Clinton!" ~~ Using TheBat! v1.61 hamstrung by Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 ~~ Current beta is 1.63b6 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
