Re: Bug: 3.0.0.8 - Still invalid HTML

[Stefan Dorscht]

Hello Peter Fjelsten,

on Tuesday, September 7, 2004 at  you wrote:

> Hello beta testers.

> It's still there.

> ,- [  ]
> | Invalid HTML ! 
> | Please forward this message to developers. 
> | Thanks. 
> | EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module
> 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 03F8E000
> `-


Me too.

Invalid HTML !
Please forward this message to developers. 
Thanks. 
EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00403EEF in module
'thebat.exe'. Read of address 02D4E000 


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Re: Memo tabs for filters

[Stuart Hemming]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

>> Does anybody think that a Memo tab would be useful for filters?
Good idea.

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iQA/AwUBQT/k6dttnLhkydF1EQLHzACg12gE1kIq0DXeOKRNv5of7/z4l0YAn32e
8TV3G+B0RJFZD6lQ3TAJx3CR
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Re: Confusing problem with NFS

[Mic Cullen]

On Thursday, September 9, 2004 @ 7:29:03 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

[snips]

MicCullen>> I've discovered a few new things with my battle to get MAPI and bayes*
MicCullen>> subjects to be marked read.

Stuart> I copied you filters and made them the first two filters in my list.
Stuart> The only change I made was to point to my The Bat folder. Sent a
Stuart> message to the list with Bayes in the Subject line and it filtered to
Stuart> The Bat folder marked as read and flagged.

Stuart> Oh yes, one other change, I made the first one continue processing.

Further update - following the stuffing around with the 'not filtering much at
all' episode, I deleted the filter, and rebuilt it exactly the way it was
(which Stuart found worked, so I'm sure I didn't make it badly in the first
place).

Upon doing that, it now works. Perfectly.

I'm now not 100% confident that the filters in the NFS are always working
top-down 100% of the time, I admit.

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Re: Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.2 Report

[Peter Fjelsten]

Neal,

On 09-09-2004 01:39, you [NL] wrote in
:
NL> HamMails:  2306
NL> SpamMails: 551
NL> detected Ham:  490 (99.3%)
NL> detected Spam: 64 (92.1%)
NL> FALSE Ham detected:  5
NL> FALSE Spam detected: 3

How did you get this info out of Bayes Filter - macro?

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Re: Suggestion for new folder list column

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marcus!

On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 10:58:59 PM you wrote:

> OK, I'm obviously not the only one wanting this. Before firing up the
> BT, what should such a column be called? My English isn't good enough,

adressee




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Re: Invalid HTML continued

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Paul!

On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 10:18:23 PM you wrote:

> and I haven't seen an HTML error in a LONG time !!
> and I do have view HTML messages as using HTML only.
> and normally I use RTV so I can view smileys :)

I doubt, ever did, that this infamous error has anything to do with
HTML. I've yet to see it with an actual HTML message, whenever it hit
me it was plain text messages. Which is the reason I used the source
viewer way back when I had myriads of these.

Perhaps it has to do with the speed one goes through one's messages;
remembering this once was a theory.





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Re: Beta 3.0.0.8 - filtering disappeared

[Mic Cullen]

On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 @ 3:28:57 PM, Johannes Posel wrote:

[snips]

>> As it says, the filtering just stopped working. Everything ended up in the
>> inbox.

Johannes> Not confirmed (3.0.0.8)...

OK, this re-appeared early this morning. (4am isn't the time to be sorting
these things out, really.)

I rolled back to B6. No joy.

I rolled back (eventually) to the so-called 3.0. No joy.

Eventually, I thought to look at the log, as I worked out that the only files
being filtered were the files that fell under my 'other' grouping of
sub-filters, and even then it was only some of them.

Despite the following filter structure:

Incoming Messages
 Spam
 Sport
  (various sub-filters)
 Personal
  (various sub-filters)
 Photography
  (various sub-filters)
 Other
  (various sub-filters)

It showed that all of the messages ending up in the inbox were being
'filtered' by the 'other' filter, despite it being last in line. And because
they didn't have matching criteria, they ended up in the inbox. Mostly.

I unchecked the boxes for both my accounts in the Other top-line filter, shut
it down, and upon reopening, it worked for everything bar the 'Other' filters.

I rechecked the boxes and it's all back to working as per normal. (With B7. It
breaks again with B8.)

No, I don't have any idea why any of this did and didn't work.

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Re: Confusing problem with NFS

[Mic Cullen]

On Thursday, September 9, 2004 @ 7:29:03 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

[snips]

MicCullen>> I've discovered a few new things with my battle to get MAPI and bayes*
MicCullen>> subjects to be marked read.

Stuart> I copied you filters and made them the first two filters in my list.
Stuart> The only change I made was to point to my The Bat folder. Sent a
Stuart> message to the list with Bayes in the Subject line and it filtered to
Stuart> The Bat folder marked as read and flagged.

Great, that's just what I wanted to hear. NOT :-)))

Stuart> Oh yes, one other change, I made the first one continue processing.

Did you test it WITHOUT doing that?

Thanks for giving it a shot, it's much appreciated.

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Re: Errors and Strangeness while Fetching

[John Seymour]

Hello John,

Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 8:05:07 PM, you wrote:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

JS>  Notice only 2 blue arrows

Sorry only one. Had to re edit pic several times to get small size.

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Re: Problem with filtering IMAP account

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello,

sorry this is no real list message I'm just testing something before I
click on send in an answer to Mic Cullen.

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Invalid HTML continued

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello TBBETA Members!

  Just for the record - so I am not the odd one out:

  I got one!

  Right now with Paul Cartwrights message
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.



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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.7 memory consumption (was: The Bat! 3.0.0.7 is now available)

[Paul Cartwright]

ASK> Here's my contribution (POP3 only):

ASK> My messagebase is, hmmm, about 8000 mails (all acounts & common folders),
ASK> TBUDL & TBBeta alone contributing with 3000 mails. :-) Collecting mail thru
ASK> Popfile, plugins Gaijin & MyMacros. No AV plugin, no antispam plugin. Mails
ASK> go to common & common virtual folders using "known" & other filters (some
ASK> of them I set up for the first time with NFS, some of them are converted
ASK> from my 2.12 installation).

I use K9 and bayes filter & AVG plugin.

ASK> Had TB running for about 4 hours now. 2 POP3-accounts that are polled every
ASK> 10 minutes. Peak memory usage at a stable 26MB, no change ever since I
ASK> started the program. Right now I just maximized TB again (had it in the
ASK> system tray most of the time) and its at 10MB.

memory is 13,248K Peak is 41,980K and VM=34,508K
but it's only been running for 57 minutes.

ASK> (I went from 2.12.00 to 3.00 directly, no 2.13betas in-between, now on
ASK> 3.0.0.8)

lots of betas here :)

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Re: Active account not selectable

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello C.Ferrara,

07-Sep-2004 22:53, you wrote:

> 3)  right-click any file you like and select: "send to ==> The Bat"

> It will be sent as if account "A" still was the preferred one -if you
> don`t go back to the main window and select a folder of account "C"

Is the "send to" option using the active account or the "default account
for mailto: URLs"?(I don't know)

What happens if you make account B the default for mailto?


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.7 memory consumption (was: The Bat! 3.0.0.7 is now available)

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Peter Palmreuther,

08-Sep-2004 16:05, you wrote:

> But than I recognized: the IMAP accounts don't even check regularily for
> mail, it's only POP3-accounts that do so. So there must be POP3-memory
> leak(s) as well.

Here's my contribution (POP3 only):

My messagebase is, hmmm, about 8000 mails (all acounts & common folders),
TBUDL & TBBeta alone contributing with 3000 mails. :-) Collecting mail thru
Popfile, plugins Gaijin & MyMacros. No AV plugin, no antispam plugin. Mails
go to common & common virtual folders using "known" & other filters (some
of them I set up for the first time with NFS, some of them are converted
from my 2.12 installation).

Had TB running for about 4 hours now. 2 POP3-accounts that are polled every
10 minutes. Peak memory usage at a stable 26MB, no change ever since I
started the program. Right now I just maximized TB again (had it in the
system tray most of the time) and its at 10MB.

I conclude -- there's no memory drain here.

(I went from 2.12.00 to 3.00 directly, no 2.13betas in-between, now on
3.0.0.8)

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Re: Window focus

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 20:43, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> I am sure I overlooked the odd message I might have been interested
> in lately. Like, has anybody noticed that TB windows don't get
> proper focus?

> I have open an editor window and now change focus to any other
> program window, doesn't matter if it is one from TB or just any
> other application. After a while I close the window and am used to
> get taken back to the last window having been focused before - the
> TB editor. It doesn't get the focus.

This has bugged me since pre 2.12.00, but somehow I never mentioned it
here. Full confirmation and very irritating.

What's more, since the release of 3.0, the MT has been stealing focus
on a few occasions. I haven't nailed it down yet, but sometimes my key
strokes goes to the MT instead of to the main window. That's not how
it used to be.

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Window focus

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello TBBETA Members!

  I am sure I overlooked the odd message I might have been interested
  in lately. Like, has anybody noticed that TB windows don't get
  proper focus?

  I have open an editor window and now change focus to any other
  program window, doesn't matter if it is one from TB or just any
  other application. After a while I close the window and am used to
  get taken back to the last window having been focused before - the
  TB editor. It doesn't get the focus.

  Thought this bug had been sorted ages ago?!



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Re: Common filter isses

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marck!

On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 8:03:18 PM you wrote:

> That's all I did ...I don't know what else to say ...

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [4AF688F0.01C478C3.35925F03.1CF9EB14]
Name: Privat
Filter: 
{\0D\0A\20`0`0`Haasis\0D\0A0`5`1`dutaint\0D\0A0`5`1`tbot\0D\0A1`0`0`meissner\0D\0A1`0`0`meißner\0D\0A1`0`0`Leif_Ha\0D\0A1`0`0`Dulz\0D\0A1`0`0`detlef_schulte\0D\0A1`0`0`d.schulte\0D\0A1`0`0`hoops\0D\0A1`0`0`Palmreuther\0D\0A0`0`1`TheBat\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CPureTec\5CPrivat
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter

Interesting, this time it worked.





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Unhandled exception: TheBat! (NTDLL.DLL) V3.0.0.8

[hggdh]

One more. I find it disturbing that test versions do not have debug
information set on the modules.

..hggdh..


unhandled exception in TheBat.exe (NTDLL.DLL): Access Violation

call stack:

NTDLL! 77fcc2c0()
MSVCRT! 78001532()
MSVCRT! 780014cf()


Registers:

 EAX = 0007002E EBX = 0003 ECX = 00080002 EDX = 0090 ESI = 0328C098 EDI = 
0147
 EIP = 77FCC2C0 ESP = 0F60F4F8 EBP = 0F60F6C4 EFL = 0212
 MM0 = 01883A81 MM1 = 77F81F550355FB30 MM2 = 77FCC71E0355FB40 MM3 = 
77FCC644 MM4 = 
 MM5 = 01477954 MM6 = 01883A800355FB0C MM7 = 04BD1388
 XMM0 = 00137FFD8C0077F81F000355F8C8 XMM1 = 77F87C9A00087FFD8C45
 XMM2 = 0355FAAC7C5783280001006E XMM3 = 014777F82A8C00110355FB60
 XMM4 = 0355FB380328F5700011014709B8 XMM5 = 77F82AD077F81F550355FD280900
 XMM6 = 014709B877FCC1D00355FD38 XMM7 = 77F82A8C0080
 CS = 001B DS = 0023 ES = 0023 SS = 0023 FS = 0038 GS =  OV=0 UP=0 EI=1 PL=0 ZR=0 
AC=1 PE=0 CY=0

 00080002 = 


 XMM00 = +6.28807E-037 XMM01 = +1.00650E+034 XMM02 = +1.#QNANE+000 XMM03 = 
+1.74487E-039
 XMM10 = +9.66896E-044 XMM11 = +1.#QNANE+000 XMM12 = +9.18366E-040 XMM13 = 
+1.00798E+034
 XMM20 = +1.54143E-043 XMM21 = +1.40130E-045 XMM22 = +4.47602E+036 XMM23 = 
+6.28828E-037
 XMM30 = +6.28836E-037 XMM31 = +2.38221E-044 XMM32 = +1.00668E+034 XMM33 = 
+3.65505E-038
 XMM40 = +3.65575E-038 XMM41 = +2.38221E-044 XMM42 = +4.96525E-037 XMM43 = 
+6.28835E-037
 XMM50 = +3.22859E-042 XMM51 = +6.28857E-037 XMM52 = +1.00650E+034 XMM53 = 
+1.00669E+034
 XMM60 = -1.#QNANE+000 XMM61 = +6.28858E-037 XMM62 = +1.02530E+034 XMM63 = 
+3.65575E-038
 XMM70 = +0.0E+000 XMM71 = +1.79366E-043 XMM72 = +0.0E+000 XMM73 = 
+1.00668E+034 MXCSR = 1F80
 ST0 = -0.15707039052971686e+4505 ST1 = +5.01178111714122294e+1235 ST2 = 
+0.0e+
 ST3 = +0.0e+ ST4 = +0.0e+ ST5 = 
+0.0e+
 ST6 = +0.0e+ ST7 = -0.005872769e+4539
 CTRL = 027F STAT =  TAGS =  EIP = 
 CS =  DS =  EDO = 

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Re: NFS: Wrapping up on " Big question for 9Val" thread

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 18:06, 9Val wrote:

M>> With or without modifications done by a previous filter?

> With modifications - remember, object is the same

Now I think it is even more important to not let the NFS move a parked
message, whether it is originally parked or parked by the filter
itself. If you want a moved message parked, move it first, then park
it.

I can well imagine the use for filters parking certain messages before
passing them on to other filters, mostly to stop a subsequent filter
from moving the message.

Can we agree that a filter should not be able to move a message which
has been parked earlier in _the same_ filtering session?

If so, it would be confusing if the same logic didn't apply to message
manipulation within _one filter_. If a message is parked, it shouldn't
be able to move, regardless of whether it was parked before processed
by the filter or by the filter itself.

If I want to move and park a message, I should be forced to move it
first and then park it. I see no downsides of such an implementation,
but letting filters move parked messages during some conditions but
not during other - well, that would be confusing.


I think MAU and Peter (and others) have done a terrific job analysing
the ups and downs of different implementation strategies, I don't have
much to add except the above.

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NFS very slow when loading large filters

[Jernej Simončič]

I have a very long filter for getting rid of the various forms of "You have
a virus" messages. Now this filter loaded almost instantly when I clicked it
in the old filtering system in TB 2.x, but in TB 3, the complete program
freezes for a few _minutes_ before the filter is shown. Also, it takes TB 6
seconds to clear the display when I click on another filter.

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Header Field "Delivered-To: Failure - Beta 8

[Bill McCarthy]

The filter used the NFS construct:

Header field - Delivered-To v contains - the_address

(where the "v" is the little drop down box thingy)

BTW, I got it to work with the following:

Header - match - ^(?i-s)delivered-to:.*the_address

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Re[2]: S/MIME: The issuer of this certificate chain was not found

[Alexander Leschinsky]

Hello Martin,

   On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 12:53:27 +0200 (08.09.2004 16:53 my local time),
   received Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 18:09:42 +0600,
   you wrote about "S/MIME: The issuer of this certificate chain was not found",
   at least in part:

MS> You don'tr have the problem?
No... but you have to perform "Add to addressbook" for all certs in your
Trusted Root AB
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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available

[Allie Martin]

Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote:

> Doesn't _everyone_ know that? :) Before the "windows keyboard" didn't we
> all use  for the "Windows key" and  for the key now
> known as "Windows context menu key"?

Me? No. I'm relatively young in the business. I came on board in 1995.
Never really doodled with a machine before that. Not to mention how
helpful the mouse can be when can't recall those keyboard combos you
never really grew up with in the first place. ;)

> No, no. I have a very fancy
> wireless-extra-keys-scattered-all-over-the-keyboard keyboard. Hey, I'm,
> a keyboard person.

;) I see. It's so hard to find a keyboard with a keytravel that make
typing nice. I've actually ordered one of those refurbished IBM
keyboards that uses buckle spring technology. Should be interesting.
The vets swear by it.

But hey, they swear by a lot of things I'd rather not use. We'll see.

To TBOT with anymore of this...

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Re: Invalid HTML [WAS Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available]

[Mary Bull]

Hello Allie!

On Wednesday, September 08, 2004, 7:19 AM, you wrote:

MB>> Could the coincidence of opening a message to read in TB!, at the
MB>> same time as Backweb is being used, trigger the "Invalid HTML"
MB>> error display?

AM> 'Coincidence' is the key here. I think it would amount to only
AM> that. ;)

Thanks, Allie. I thought it was worth running by someone with a good
diagnostic head on his shoulders.

Well, a right-click on my mouse to get the context menu for a switch
to PTV and back to RTV has reliably fixed it for me so far. Although,
Jonathan Angliss wrote that he had had a different experience.

Good that you posted the Windows context menu key for the keyboard
people, too.

Like Miguel, I'm a mouse person. And for the same reason--oncoming
osteoarthritis in my hands. Mild, but I do like to spare them. :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available

[Peter Fjelsten]

Allie,

On 08-09-2004 14:23, you [AM] wrote in
:
>>  works the same way as the "Windows context menu key".

AM> Hey. Now how about that?

Doesn't _everyone_ know that? :) Before the "windows keyboard" didn't we
all use  for the "Windows key" and  for the key now
known as "Windows context menu key"?

AM> Are you using one of those ancient, IBM keyboards with buckle-spring
AM> technology and hence not have a 'Windows context menu key'?

No, no. I have a very fancy
wireless-extra-keys-scattered-all-over-the-keyboard keyboard. Hey, I'm,
a keyboard person.

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Re: Mails in common folders are not marked as read automaticly (v2.12.00)

[Martin Sebald]

Hi Allie!

Once again thanks for your reply. I think you're right with your idea, the
settings did not make the upgrade.

Also it is interesting, that properties of common folders seem to be
handled like properties of accounts. Well if you know it, it's ok but if
you don't, you're lost.

Also it is frustrating what someone gets when he/she pushes F1. Help is
completly outdated.

Regards,
Martin

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available

[Allie Martin]

Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote:

>  works the same way as the "Windows context menu key".

Hey. Now how about that?

Are you using one of those ancient, IBM keyboards with buckle-spring
technology and hence not have a 'Windows context menu key'? Now why
didn't I think of calling the key that?

Hit  to toggle viewers.   That's
what I needed to write.

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Re: Invalid HTML [WAS Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available]

[Allie Martin]

Mary Bull, [MB] wrote:

> "I can reproduce this error by opening IE or another browser and have
> it loading a page when I try to view a message.  Also, if there is a
> form waiting for input, the html error can also appear.  I do not know
> if this is anything, just my experience."

Hmmm. Seems like a coincidence. I get them randomly. I don't have to
have a browser running to get the error.

> Now, I have been getting this error randomly, but never multiple
> instances, since v. 3.0.0.6.

I get multiple instances when I aggressively look for it, and it's
especially bad in a folder that contains HTML as well as plain text
messages. Just to provoke it into happening, I'll rapidly switch from
message to message and soon the 'Invalid HTML' errors appear.

However, while actually reading mail and moving from message to
message to at least glance at content, the error is very uncommon and
happens only occasionally.

> I have F-Secure as my AV, and I have it configured to check for
> updates automatically, once every 57 minutes.

Wow! Frequent. ;)

> It uses a version of Backweb to do this. I think, in effect, it
> opens an HTML connection briefly, but I don't know that for sure.

I really doubt that this would have something to do with the error.

> Anyway: Could the coincidence of opening a message to read in TB!, at
> the same time as Backweb is being used, trigger the "Invalid HTML"
> error display?

'Coincidence' is the key here. I think it would amount to only that. ;)

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available

[Peter Fjelsten]

Allie,

On 08-09-2004 14:13, you [AM] wrote in
:
AM> I don't have a short name for the key that brings up contextual
AM> menus?

 works the same way as the "Windows context menu key".

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Re[2]: Invalid HTML error -- Again and again and again

[Ethan J. Mings]

Crafted from The Desk on location in the Quality Lab.
Hello Mary,

Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 4:25:41 PM, you wrote:

> I have had this error 4 times, but not so far in v. 3.0.0.8.
> However, a simple fix worked each time for me. I switched to PTV and
> then immediately back to RTV. At that point the message displayed
> correctly in RTV.

> I'm sure you must have tried that. But, if you haven't, could you test
> it and see if it will work for you?

This is helpful.  Just upgraded to the 3.0.0.8 and so far, no
problems.  I will keep you suggestion in mind.

Jerry

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available

[Allie Martin]

Simon Fincham, [SF] wrote:

> Exiting the folder and re-entering resolves the issue.

That may not work all the time. One way that seems to work all the
time is to just toggle viewers.

I don't have a short name for the key that brings up contextual menus?
Hit that key and then U. This toggles to plain text viewer. Hit the
key combo again, this toggles back to the RTV. Seems to work here
everytime, while other methods have not always worked. It's a lot more
bearable, now that I've found a quick means of dealing with it that
always works.

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Re: Mails in common folders are not marked as read automaticly (v2.12.00)

[Allie Martin]

Martin Sebald, [MS] wrote:

> Hey, thank you very much for this information. It worked just
> perfectly. Is this a new option?

That common folder config panel has been there since soon after common
folders were introduced.

> I'm asking because it worked in the versions before, at least my
> friend told me so (I don't use common folders).

I don't know why the upgrade messed up his settings but that seems to
have been what happened. 

> And: Is this option accessable through the menus?

Sort of. It's accessible but not intuitively. In fact, the panel is
not accessible intuitively in any way.

Shift-CTRL-P is the shortcut for bringing up an accounts properties
config panel. If you select a common folder and hit the shortcut, the
global config panel for common folders appears. I guess we're to look
at our common folders collectively as an account  and yet not an
account. ;) If you do this, then I guess, selecting a common folder,
going to the Account menu and then selecting Properties, shouldn't
be a reason for surprise, since the global config panel for common
folders appears again.

> So, thank you again!

You're welcome. :)

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Re: NFS: Known filter, what a fiasco!

[MAU]

Hello Marcus,

>> I guess I won't have to blame you for anything, it seems to be working
>> :)
> 
> Then I don't owe you a beer, I guess? :-)

No, I _do_ owe you one :)

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Re: What does Verify wait on BT mean?

[Michael Geyer]

Hi Boris and list,

On Wednesday, September 8, 2004 at 12:59:54 GMT +0200 (which was 12:59
where I live) Boris Anders wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of "What does Verify wait on BT mean?":

> Thanks for fixing, but I disagree with "Close" leave to manager.

If there were status selections of "verify fail" and "verify ok" which
could alternately be selected to the "reopen" selection now (for false
ok :-) ) could help solve that problem.

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Re: NFS: Known filter, what a fiasco!

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 13:27, MAU wrote:

>> Thanks for the info. As you can see in my signature I'm going to give
>> it a try. I hope I won't have to blame you for my next fiasco. ;-)

> I guess I won't have to blame you for anything, it seems to be working
> :)

Then I don't owe you a beer, I guess? :-)

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Re: NFS: Known filter, what a fiasco!

[MAU]

Hello Marcus,

>> I have never used the known filter and therefore haven't tested it with
>> 3.0.0.8, but since filtering on address books and address groups
>> (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3552) are solved, I suppose the
>> known filter works as well. It does seem reasonable those two bugs were
>> interconnected.
> 
> Thanks for the info. As you can see in my signature I'm going to give it
> a try. I hope I won't have to blame you for my next fiasco. ;-)

I guess I won't have to blame you for anything, it seems to be working
:)

Thanks again.

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Invalid HTML [WAS Re: The Bat! 3.0.0.8 Post Release is now available]

[Mary Bull]

Hello Allie!

On Tuesday, September 07, 2004, 8:06 PM, you wrote:

9Val>> So  purpose  of  today's  beta  is  to figure reason of 'Invalid HTML'
9Val>> error.  ...

AM> I just went through about 150 messages and haven't encountered this
AM> error.
AM> I see that others have seen it though.

Allie, this morning I see your message that you have now encountered
this. I went to bed last night thinking about it, and woke up with one
idea, based on what Michael L. Wilson reported in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
where he said:
"I can reproduce this error by opening IE or another browser and have
it loading a page when I try to view a message.  Also, if there is a
form waiting for input, the html error can also appear.  I do not know
if this is anything, just my experience."

Now, I have been getting this error randomly, but never multiple
instances, since v. 3.0.0.6.

I have F-Secure as my AV, and I have it configured to check for
updates automatically, once every 57 minutes. It uses a version of
Backweb to do this. I think, in effect, it opens an HTML connection
briefly, but I don't know that for sure.

Anyway: Could the coincidence of opening a message to read in TB!, at
the same time as Backweb is being used, trigger the "Invalid HTML"
error display?

I wonder if all who are getting this might have an application set for
automatic updating? (Including, of course, Windows itself.)

What do you think?

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Re: NFS: Known filter, what a fiasco!

[MAU]

Hello Marcus,

> I have never used the known filter and therefore haven't tested it with
> 3.0.0.8, but since filtering on address books and address groups
> (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3552) are solved, I suppose the
> known filter works as well. It does seem reasonable those two bugs were
> interconnected.

Thanks for the info. As you can see in my signature I'm going to give it
a try. I hope I won't have to blame you for my next fiasco. ;-)

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