Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Mary Bull wrote: > I am soo behind-the-times! Thanks a mil for the support!! :) > Well, when Diman Pavlov changed the status from Verify-Fail back to > Verify-Wait, the version it says it is fixed in is conserved as v. > 3.51.10. > Possibly that's a typo or an oversight. > It is most certainly *NOT* fixed in v. 3.51.10. :( > I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it > really is fixed. latest available version number in BT is 3.51.10, he was unable to set higher number, because it is not available yet. This is BT error, I think. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Sorting issue?
Hello Stuart, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 2:06:09 PM, you wrote: FM>> I have found that if I sort messages by receive date, and the receive FM>> date is the same for some messages (that is, they are all fetched FM>> from pop3 in the same minute), they are shown in an order that is not FM>> the same they were received in. SC> Unless you have a specific reason for sorting by Received time you may SC> want to switch by Created time. This way replies are usually after SC> the original message. This is what I'm doing now, actually switching between receive date and create date, because some sender has corrupted clock or wrong timezone, scrambling the list order again. I thought that using receive date could lead to a quite perfectly ordered list. (I know that during its travel between the sender's server and my server mail can get struck in some queue and so I can actually receive some mail out of order, but this is the best we can get) I also seem to recall that in older versions of TB I had no issues with "receive time" sorting, but maybe it was an old 2.x version. Now I'm running my own mail server, so my pop3 server is on a 100 Mbit connection, and I get mail very fast, maybe 50 messages/second. Maybe another solution could be not to sort anything at all, this should show messages the way they are loaded into message base, but this could not be an option, depending on the way messages are actually inserted into the database. Anyway, I'd like some feedback from Ritlabs: is this a bug? What's the resolution of the "received" timestamp? Can this problem be solved easily or not? -- Fabio "Kurgan" Muzzi Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Marek! On Thursday, July 28, 2005, 2:32 AM, you wrote: >> Possibly that's a typo or an oversight. It is most certainly >> *NOT* fixed in v. 3.51.10. :( >> I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it >> really is fixed. > latest available version number in BT is 3.51.10, he was unable to > set higher number, because it is not available yet. This is BT > error, I think. Thank you so very much for the clarification. I will be most pleased to be able to check out and, I hope, confirm the fix when the next beta is released. It seems, in a way, like a small bug, but it has the potential for causing serious misunderstandings. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Add address submenu is working (was: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available)
Hello Martin, > Hello Maxim, >> [-] (#0004871) Add address submenu was not working > Note in BT this morning, fixed this afternoon. > Thats the way *aha-aha* I like it *aha-aha* You should have attached an MP3 :)))... -- Vili Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Thomas, On Thursday, July 28, 2005 at 4:07:42 AM Thomas [TF] wrote: TF> One little remark: I first forgot to delete the last "}". Of course TF> this meant unbalanced brackets and caused an error when opening TB. TF> The effect was that TB didn't open but (after the splash screen) TF> Windows suggested I should send an error message to MicroSoft. Just TF> saying, this kind of runtime error should be checked by TB, even TF> though it wouldn't usually happen. Thanks. Another one. I thought I'm the only one who does not understand the necessity of an AV at in this case. I already asked for more tolerance in this situation in June :-/ -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) God, forgive my little jokes on thee, and I'll forgive thy great big one on me. Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Message time question
Hello TBers, In moving a message from one account to another account, the received time changes on occasion. POP to POP - no time change IMAP to POP - no time change POP to IMAP - date retained but set an hour ahead June 25, 2005 14:52 to June 25, 2005 15:52 IMAP to IMAP - date set to current date and time one hour ahead June 25, 2005 14:52 becomes today, current time + 1 hour I can sort of understand why the time might change if it was an IMAP account - that's when it was "received" in the new account. But that's not really the received time. It seems to me that it shouldn't change. Or at least I'd like it to not change. Is this unexpected behaviour? Or expected? If it is expected, is there some way I can change it? I have no explanation for the + 1 hour thing. -- Regards, Terry Using The Bat! v3.51.10 Pro on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Goncalo, > I don't know what to say. I was checking your report but... just > see my message . I have never seen that error. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Peter, Sorry for my late reply, I've been away and busy. M>> What is TB doing during this extra minute or so? Does anyone know? > > I don't know what it does - but sometimes it lasts over a minute here until TB > really exits. All folder purging and compression actions are done. I then see > the hourglass and task manager tells me that TB is using about 30 MB of memory > and 0% (ZERO!) CPU usage. > > A reliable method to reproduce it here with 17 active accounts is the > following: > I can reproduce it by just starting TB and closing it without doing anything else. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello George, Sorry for being so late in replying, I've been away and quite busy. >> What is TB doing during this extra minute or so? Does anyone know? > > You have virtual folders, right? Only 78 ;) > Is the "Store state between sessions" option checked? Yes, certainly some of them have that option checked, but I don't know how many now. Yes, you may be right and this may be the reason. While I was away I could notice in my laptop (quite old)that the "process" lasted 3-4 minutes, with CPU at 98% and quite a lot disk activity. So you may be right. I just wonder why I had not noticed before. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Alexander, >> When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to >> do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute >> and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with >> Task Manager and it does it every time. > > I just tried a couple of times, and it doesn't happen here. I close TB, it > purges/compresses the folders (I don't p&c all folders, only selected > ones), as soon as the program window closes the entry is removed from the > process list of the task manager. Do you use any VFs? See and my reply. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Vili, Sorry for my late reply, I've been away. >> The only plugin I use is MyMacros, I'll have to look into that just in >> case. Anyway, I think I had never seen this before but can't be sure >> when (which version) it started. > > It does the same for me, slow quitting, and I dont have any plugin... > :((( Do you use VFs? See and my reply to it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Mary, >> When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to >> do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute >> and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with >> Task Manager and it does it every time. > > Miguel, I noticed this twice yesterday, when I was waiting to shut > down the computer after closing The Bat! The purge-and-compress graph > went along doing its thing for about a second. Then the main TB! > window stayed on-screen for perhaps 30 or 40 seconds--not long enough > for me to consider getting the Task Manager up. I was running 3.51.9 > at the time. Sorry for my late reply, I've been away. The minute (4 in my laptop) I talks about is _after_ TB's windows is closed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello MAU! On Thursday, July 28, 2005, 3:56 PM, you wrote: > Sorry for my late reply, I've been away. > The minute (4 in my laptop) I talks about is _after_ TB's windows is > closed. Okay. Sorry I was confused. And my problem left with v. 3.51.10. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.7 is now available
Hello Maxim, > The Bat! 3.51.7 is now available from > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb3517.rar > > Here is a short list of changes: > > [-] Extra line breaks caused by using QTs Whatever you did here made me change some templates and QTs that had been working fine for many many moons. I had to remove '%-' from a number of lines in order top get proper formatting. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.7 is now available
Dear Miguel, @28-Jul-2005, 23:22 +0200 (28-Jul 22:22 UK time) MAU [MAU] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Maxim: >> Here is a short list of changes: >> >> [-] Extra line breaks caused by using QTs MAU> Whatever you did here made me change some templates and QTs that had MAU> been working fine for many many moons. I had to remove '%-' from a MAU> number of lines in order top get proper formatting. I have had the same experience. And although some were corrected back, my entire template set is now playing up. ... Not only, but also, cascaded QT includes seem not to work properly in templates creating messages from filters :(. I have some very sophisticated filter sets that are no longer working. Waaah! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpbkAaNjQSUM.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Mary, > Okay. Sorry I was confused. We all are some times :) > And my problem left with v. 3.51.10. I haven't even downloaded it yet. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello MAU! On Thursday, July 28, 2005, 4:28 PM, you wrote: >> Okay. Sorry I was confused. > We all are some times :) Lately, seems like more often for me. :) >> And my problem left with v. 3.51.10. > I haven't even downloaded it yet. Well, I doubt that it will solve the slow closing for you. Seems like you're getting a handle on it from a different direction. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Greg, > You are saying TB main window was on screen. I took it differently. > Per Miguel's original message I thought all windows were closed and > only task manager showed TB running. > > ,- [ per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > | When I exit TB, and after doing whatever compression and purging it has to > | do and TB windows are closed, TB keeps running for about one more minute > | and using about 50% CPU. I have verified this several times today with > | Task Manager and it does it every time. > `- > > So maybe some clarification is required by Miguel. You are right. Here TB does all purging and closes (no window on screen) but TM shows a TB process for 1 minute (4 in my laptop). -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available
Hello Maxim, > The Bat! 3.51.9 is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-51.msi > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-51.msi I get a "The page cannot be displayed". Have they been removed? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available
Hello Marek, > it is 3.51.10 and files were moved to location for releases: > > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-51.msi So there it is! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.9 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available
Hello Maxim, > The Bat! 3.51.9 is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-51.msi > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-51.msi Not usable for me because https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4933 is still present. Aside of that, because of changes I have to make to QTs and templates as I have reported in my , it is impossible to easily go back and forth between versions. So, I think I am condemned to go back all the way to good old 3.02.10 and stay there for quite a while. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.7 is now available
Hello Marck, >>> [-] Extra line breaks caused by using QTs > MAU>> Whatever you did here made me change some templates and QTs that had MAU>> been working fine for many many moons. I had to remove '%-' from a MAU>> number of lines in order top get proper formatting. > > I have had the same experience. And although some were corrected back, > my entire template set is now playing up. > > ... Not only, but also, cascaded QT includes seem not to work properly > in templates creating messages from filters :(. I have some very > sophisticated filter sets that are no longer working. Waaah! As I have just written in another message about 3.51.10: ,- [ ] | Not usable for me because https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4933 is | still present. | | Aside of that, because of changes I have to make to QTs and templates as | I have reported in my , it | is impossible to easily go back and forth between versions. So, I think | I am condemned to go back all the way to good old 3.02.10 and stay there | for quite a while. `- So it looks like I won't be doing much beta testing this summer :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello Mary, > Well, I doubt that it will solve the slow closing for you. Seems like > you're getting a handle on it from a different direction. > As you can see below I'm back to good old 3.02.10, and it all seems it is going to be for some time now. I can't jump back and forth different versions if I have to change QTs and templates every time. It's too bad. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.7 is now available
Dear Miguel, @29-Jul-2005, 00:08 +0200 (28-Jul 23:08 UK time) MAU [MAU] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... >> ... Not only, but also, cascaded QT includes seem not to work properly >> in templates creating messages from filters :(. I have some very >> sophisticated filter sets that are no longer working. Waaah! MAU> As I have just written in another message about 3.51.10: MAU> ,- [ ] MAU> | Not usable for me because MAU> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4933 is MAU> | still present. ... This is exactly what I was trying to describe, so I have added my confirmation note to your report. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpN1FW695EEy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.51.7 is now available
Hello Marck, > This is exactly what I was trying to describe, so I have added my > confirmation note to your report. Thanks, as I'm monitoring the report I have received it. I could live with this bug because I could easily revert to 3.02.10, process the web queries and return to whatever was the version I was using. But having to now change QTs and templates makes this impossible any more. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: What is TB doing after exiting?
Hello MAU! On Thursday, July 28, 2005, 5:12 PM, you wrote: >> Well, I doubt that it will solve the slow closing for you. Seems like >> you're getting a handle on it from a different direction. > As you can see below I'm back to good old 3.02.10, and it all seems it > is going to be for some time now. I can't jump back and forth different > versions if I have to change QTs and templates every time. It's too bad. It is indeed really too bad. 9Val said that after they did the public release of v. 3.51.10 they were going to be getting on with their major code re-writing. If I didn't misunderstand his post. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So, as they change how TB! works, it's possible that others of us will at some point find it too dysfunctional for us to test. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About 3.51 release
Hello 9Val, > I know, that there are a lot of complaints about 3.51 beta serie. > Now I'll describe some reasons why we release it. You shouldn't have released it. Wait till people upgrade and start complaining about templates and QTs not working with the new release. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
