Re: Adventures with TB
Hello John, A reminder of what John Thomas on TBBETA typed on: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 at 13:43:59 GMT -0700 JT> I wish Ritlabs would make their program a great IMAP client And me! -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on a G5 iMac Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
Hello Roelof, A reminder of what Roelof Otten on TBBETA typed on: Monday, October 10, 2005 at 20:37:23 GMT +0200 RO> Does it happen with 3.61.11 too? Now that I've been using .11 for a day I can now say that it has not happened with .11. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on a G5 iMac Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Print template broken when printing HTML messages
Hello, when I print plaintext message, all macros (From, To, Subject, Date) are printed with no problems. But when I printed HTML mail now, TB prints first row with "From" only and HTML mail continues immediatelly. Anybody can confirm please? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Print template broken when printing HTML messages
Hallo Marek, On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:10:12 +0200GMT (12-10-2005, 13:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MM> when I print plaintext message, all macros (From, To, Subject, Date) MM> are printed with no problems. Confirmed. MM> But when I printed HTML mail now, TB prints first row with "From" only MM> and HTML mail continues immediatelly. Cannot confirm. I printed the same message twice, it was a html/text message. Once printed as html and once as plain text. The HTML print used a different font (for the headers too), font size and alligning, but for the rest it was the same as the plain text print. -- Groetjes, Roelof WINDOWS is to computing what Etch-a-Sketch is to art. The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpMDAF46k2w7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Print template broken when printing HTML messages
Hello Marek, > But when I printed HTML mail now, TB prints first row with "From" only > and HTML mail continues immediatelly. > Anybody can confirm please? Nope. Send me in private the mail in Unix mailbox format as attach, to try. -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Sometimes all message list tabs dissappears except "All" tab after restart
Hello, sometimes when I start TB, I see "All" tab only, user-defined tabs are included in context menu and in Preferences, but are closed (unchecked) and I must reenable them. Anybody can confirm? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Confirmation for saving changes in VieMode is not displayed, changes are ignored
Hello, I have changed sorting in Created column in one folder, changed folder and no confirmation appeared, when I selected that folder, sorting is back to previous setting. In Preferences, I have selected option "Ask confirmation fo save" in "View modes" section. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Additional tab(s) items included in Message Tabs context menu
Hello, tab "All" can't be disabled and this is correct. But I had this item included in context menu and as I discovered, additional "All" tab was added, so I have two "All" items there now. -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line <> Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hi All, The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] (#0005101) AV when clicking 'Follow' in context menu when a message browser was open by clicking a mid:/msgid: link [-] (#0005047) It was needed to open a password-protected account in order to check its mail [-] (#0004810) Editor's attachment pane position data was not stored [-] (#0004930) option to prevent a non-administrator user to edit system hot keys was not working [-] (#0004929) option to prevent a non-administrator user to customise interface was not working [-] (#0004761) SmartBat's scheduler settings were not saved (now it's time to make them working, it's WIP) [-] Other extra space characters were added in the middle of encoded header fields [-] Other minor tab fixes (closing temporary, deletion) [-] IMAP revert to old queue -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sometimes all message list tabs dissappears except "All" tab after restart
Hello Marek, am Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2005 um 15:25 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MM> sometimes when I start TB, I see "All" tab only, user-defined tabs are MM> included in context menu and in Preferences, but are closed MM> (unchecked) and I must reenable them. MM> Anybody can confirm? Maybe its related to this: Some days ago i had reported that tabs were disappearing for me if i click "OK" in preferences dialogue (while Tabs-Register is not selected). All selected tabs are then unchecked and only "All" is visible. And this behaviour is still present in 3.61.12 -- ciao Melanie Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val, am Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2005 um 18:45 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 9> The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9> [-] Other extra space characters were added in the middle of encoded header 9>fields Don't know what has changed exactly with encoding and decoding headers. But i can still not use 3.61.11 or 3.61.12 for mails with german umlauts and maybe other national characters. -- ciao Melanie Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 11:45 AM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Running well. Sends, receives, very fast, no AVs so far. > [-] (#0004810) Editor's attachment pane position data was not stored I set up a message in the MicroEd Edit Mail Message window, with the attachment pane within the window on the left. To test, I grabbed the pane by the attachment box and dragged it outside the Edit Mail Message window. The pane disappeared. I can't find it. I tried to make it reappear by attaching another file, but that did not make the pane visible. I can't find a setting to restore the attachment pane to the inside of the editor window. I don't know whether I had just forgotten what to do about moving the attachment pane to an external position, or whether it's a bug. I'm going to close and relaunch The Bat! to see if that will give me back my editor-window attachment pane. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val, > [-] (#0005101) AV when clicking 'Follow' in context menu when a >message browser was open by clicking a mid:/msgid: link Confirm as fixed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
A problem still not solved by The Bat! developers
Hello All, It's very frustrating thatthebugreportedin https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4928 is still open. As I see it, this means that one cannot use non English characters in the Subject line when using Quick Templates (%SUBJECT=""). Similarly, one cannot use an addressbook entry, for example the recipient's name in the Subject if using %ABTONAME, if the entry in the addressbook is in non English characters. The only workaround (which is not at all practical) in order to use correctly this feature of Quick Templates, is to change the regional settings in Windows to the desired language. -- Best regards, Costas Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 12:23 PM, you wrote: >> [-] (#0004810) Editor's attachment pane position data was not stored > I set up a message in the MicroEd Edit Mail Message window, with the > attachment pane within the window on the left. > To test, I grabbed the pane by the attachment box and dragged it > outside the Edit Mail Message window. > The pane disappeared. I can't find it. I tried to make it reappear by > attaching another file, but that did not make the pane visible. > I can't find a setting to restore the attachment pane to the inside of > the editor window. > I don't know whether I had just forgotten what to do about moving the > attachment pane to an external position, or whether it's a bug. > I'm going to close and relaunch The Bat! to see if that will give me > back my editor-window attachment pane. Closing and re-launching did make the pane visible, in an external position. It appeared in the spot on the screen to which I had dragged it, after I attached a file to a new message (using the Utilities/ attach files menu). So I closed that message without saving it. Opened a new message in the Edit Mail message window. Attached a file, as above. No attachment pane appeared. It seems I will have to close and re-launch TB! again, to get the attachment pane back. Anyone confirm? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, at 19:45:11 [GMT +0300] (which was 18:45 where I live) 9val wrote: > Hi All, > The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] (#0005101) AV when clicking 'Follow' in context menu when a >message browser was open by clicking a mid:/msgid: link > [-] (#0005047) It was needed to open a password-protected account in >order to check its mail > [-] (#0004810) Editor's attachment pane position data was not stored > [-] (#0004930) option to prevent a non-administrator user to edit >system hot keys was not working > [-] (#0004929) option to prevent a non-administrator user to customise >interface was not working > [-] (#0004761) SmartBat's scheduler settings were not saved (now it's >time to make them working, it's WIP) > [-] Other extra space characters were added in the middle of encoded > header >fields > [-] Other minor tab fixes (closing temporary, deletion) > [-] IMAP revert to old queue Up and running with OTFE. Just made a backup, problem(s) with some text in the different backup or sub menus are back!!! -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpwQpGYpWvXU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val, On 12 October 2005, 17:45 you wrote: > The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ > [-] IMAP revert to old queue Much better, thank you. BTW, please please fix the problem with IMAP threading. See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5076. I'm sure others have reported this too. If so, please add something to BT. Thanks. -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 "Thus, the task is not so much to see what no one has yet seen; but to think what nobody has yet thought about that which everybody sees." ERWIN SCHRÖDINGER ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Attachment pane disappears when dragged to external position [was Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available]
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 12:40 PM, you wrote: >>> [-] (#0004810) Editor's attachment pane position data was not stored >> I set up a message in the MicroEd Edit Mail Message window, with the >> attachment pane within the window on the left. >> To test, I grabbed the pane by the attachment box and dragged it >> outside the Edit Mail Message window. >> The pane disappeared. I can't find it. I tried to make it reappear by >> attaching another file, but that did not make the pane visible. >> I can't find a setting to restore the attachment pane to the inside of >> the editor window. >> I don't know whether I had just forgotten what to do about moving the >> attachment pane to an external position, or whether it's a bug. >> I'm going to close and relaunch The Bat! to see if that will give me >> back my editor-window attachment pane. > Closing and re-launching did make the pane visible, in an external > position. It appeared in the spot on the screen to which I had dragged > it, after I attached a file to a new message (using the Utilities/ > attach files menu). > So I closed that message without saving it. > Opened a new message in the Edit Mail message window. Attached a file, > as above. > No attachment pane appeared. > It seems I will have to close and re-launch TB! again, to get the > attachment pane back. > Anyone confirm? This happens every time: 1) Attach a file in the Edit Mail Message window. 2) Drag the attachment pane to an external position. 3) Attachment pane disappears. 4) Close and re-launch The Bat! 5) Invoke a new Edit Mail Message window. 6) Attach a file. 7) Attachment pane will appear in the external position to which it had been dragged before the re-launch. 8) Close the Edit Mail Message window without saving the message. 9) Open a new Edit Mail Message window. Attach a file. Nothing happens. The attachment pane has disappeared again. 10) Close and re-launch The Bat! Attachment pane will reappear. But only for one message. Then it's close and re-launch to get it in a subsequent Edit Mail Message window. Happens every time for me. Confirmations? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, at 19:11:48 [UTC+0200] (Wednesday, October 12, 2005 19:11 my local time) Melanie wrote: 9>> [-] Other extra space characters were added in the middle of encoded header 9>>fields > Don't know what has changed exactly with encoding and decoding headers. > But i can still not use 3.61.11 or 3.61.12 for mails with german > umlauts and maybe other national characters. Of course, this is not fixed. Bug exists exactly in the same places as you described in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) in OTFE mode with BayesIt! 0.8.4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Additional tab(s) items included in Message Tabs context menu
Hi Marek Mikus, Wednesday, October 12, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : > tab "All" can't be disabled and this is correct. I managed to delete it, see http://www.xmail.net/charlene/without-ALL.gif and now I don't know how to get it back. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sometimes all message list tabs dissappears except "All" tab after restart
Hi Marek Mikus, Wednesday, October 12, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : > sometimes when I start TB, I see "All" tab only, user-defined tabs are > included in context menu and in Preferences, but are closed > (unchecked) and I must reenable them. > Anybody can confirm? Yes, especially if I did some changing in Options | Preferences. They disappear quite regularly then and I have to re-enable them as you described. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 7:45:11 PM, you wrote: > [-] IMAP revert to old queue Yes, IMAP was slower in previous beta. But as I noticed it was somewhat more "inteligent". Message counters updated more correctly, etc. If only you could mix that up with old queue speed, it would be cool... -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Melanie, Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 8:11:48 PM, you wrote: > Hello 9Val, > am Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2005 um 18:45 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 9>> The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: 9>> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9>> [-] Other extra space characters were added in the middle of encoded header 9>>fields > Don't know what has changed exactly with encoding and decoding headers. > But i can still not use 3.61.11 or 3.61.12 for mails with german > umlauts and maybe other national characters. Can confirm as still not fixed with Baltic characters. -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 18:45:11, 9Val wrote: > The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Looks like this version doesn't suffer from constant AVs and crashes like .11 did. -- < Jernej Simoncic ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ > [The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] If it looks easy, it's tough. If it looks tough, it's damn near impossible. -- Stockmayer's Theorem Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vilius Šumskas wrote: >> [-] IMAP revert to old queue > > Yes, IMAP was slower in previous beta. But as I noticed it was > somewhat more "inteligent". Message counters updated more correctly, > etc. If only you could mix that up with old queue speed, it would be > cool... Yepp. IMAP is faster again but also more unstable and filters just stopped working again. What about joining speed of the old queue with the stability of the new one? ;) Michael - -- Jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - OpenPGP 0xE59FD50D Glück ist ein Stuhl, der plötzlich dasteht, wenn man sich zwischen zwei andere setzen will. (George Bernard Shaw) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDTVgPwSeWjeWf1Q0RAvLRAJ9Ht9X3RL4ayAlCMUfqxvJfy0tofgCgk7d5 AG35MPfSal2CYb43v/NVQ9I= =892a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
Hello 9Val! I'm dropping back to beta v. 3.61.11. It ran really well for me and presented me with no problems. I can't live with the unstable attachment pane in v. 3.61.12. See my message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Even though no one is confirming the behavior to me, it's happening here, every time. :( And I have a lot of jpegs which I wish to share with friends and relatives this afternoon. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) -- Pro, no OTFE, only 2 POP3 accounts on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 20:31:31, Jernej Simoncic wrote: > On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 18:45:11, 9Val wrote: >> The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available from: >> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ > Looks like this version doesn't suffer from constant AVs and crashes like > .11 did. I've got another problem though - some messages don't appear - actually, the text is there, but it isn't displayed - the cursor does change to a hand over a link, and I can open it, but I don't see anything in the Rich Text Viewer (If I try to select text with my mouse, the cursor leaves trails behind though). I attached a sample message. -- < Jernej Simoncic ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ > [The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] Nails are selectively attracted to the inside wheel on a dual wheeled vehicle. -- The Puncture Principle--- Begin Message --- ender, LytHka je pravkar odgovoril na temo, o kateri dobivas obvestila, z nazivom "Sreèanje Japankarjev". -- lawl, pa saj to ne bi bil namen, da pa zaidemo v debate itd. Recimo, da se bli¾a eno Jokerjevo sreèanje ali kontest ali kaj podobnega, pa nekje postavijo ¹e en kavè pa projektor, pa se gleda GITS, FF7: AC ali pa kak Naruto film, zravn pa se pije La¹ko ali kaj podobnega. :sorcerer: -- Doticno temo lahko najdes tukajle: http://www.joker.si/mn3njalnik/index.php?showtopic=36998&view=getnewpost V to temo je morebiti prispelo vec odgovorov, vendar je za vsak obisk foruma in teme, glede katere prejemas sporocila, predvideno posiljanje le ene e-postne opombe. Na ta nacin je omejena kolicina e-poste, ki ti uletava v predal. Odjava: -- Kadarkoli se lahko odjavis, ce stopia v svojo nadzorno plosco in kliknes povezavo 'Ogled narocil'. Zdravstvuj! Mostvo foruma, zvanega Mn3njalnik. http://www.joker.si/mn3njalnik/index.php --- End Message --- Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Address Book templates lost their priority
Hello all! I have several contacts in Address Book with very simple new message and reply templates defined. When I try to write new message or reply, these AB templates are not used. Instead of them, The Bat! uses account or folder templates. I observed such behaviour in 3.61.11 version (may be it was in earlier versions as well) and it is present also in 3.61.12. Can somebody confirm this bug? -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) in OTFE mode with BayesIt! 0.8.4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
Hello Mary, > I can't live with the unstable attachment pane in v. 3.61.12. Do you have any problem with attachments if you do not drag the attachment pane anywhere? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Address Book templates lost their priority
Hello Zygmunt, > Can somebody confirm this bug? I can't. I never had and don't have now any problem with AB templates priority. Do you have more than 1 AB? If so, are you sure the proper AB is selected as 'Default AB' for each account? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello Jernej, > I've got another problem though - some messages don't appear - actually, the > text is there, but it isn't displayed - the cursor does change to a hand > over a link, and I can open it, but I don't see anything in the Rich Text > Viewer (If I try to select text with my mouse, the cursor leaves trails > behind though). I attached a sample message. > No problem here with the message you attached using either PTV or RTV. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Address Book templates lost their priority
On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, at 21:05:54 [UTC+0200] (Wednesday, October 12, 2005 21:05 my local time) I wrote: > [...] When I try to write new message or reply, these AB > templates are not used. Instead of them, The Bat! uses account or folder > templates. I observed such behaviour in 3.61.11 version (may be it was > in earlier versions as well) and it is present also in 3.61.12. > Can somebody confirm this bug? Sorry, this was my bug! AB templates work well and my problems resulted from using %Blank macros in some folder templates. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) in OTFE mode with BayesIt! 0.8.4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello 9Val! 9>> [-] Other extra space characters were added in the middle of encoded header 9>>fields > Don't know what has changed exactly with encoding and decoding headers. > But i can still not use 3.61.11 or 3.61.12 for mails with german > umlauts and maybe other national characters. confirmed, not fixed, still the same problem as I also confirmed here: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Martin -- The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP 3.61.11 AV
Hello beta testers. On sending an IMAP message (remote outbox), I just got this (the fist instance with this beta): --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00C02431 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0F53. --- OK --- -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) Pro MyGate, AVG 4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UWIMAP 2002e) & 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 2:40 PM, you wrote: >> I can't live with the unstable attachment pane in v. 3.61.12. > Do you have any problem with attachments if you do not drag the > attachment pane anywhere? Once I had dragged it to an external position, it never did stay stable in an internal position. And whether in the internal position or the external position, it disappeared when the message window was closed and a new message window opened. We are talking here, of course, only about attachments using Edit Mail Message. If I had never dragged the attachment pane from its interior position, I don't know whether it would have disappeared when I closed the message window. I did not expect trouble of this kind. I was testing the attachment pane bug fix, which was that its settings would be remembered. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4810 After I did that test, the attachment pane became unusable for me. I would have to close and relaunch every time in order to see it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Address Book templates lost their priority
Hallo Zygmunt, On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:05:54 +0200GMT (12-10-2005, 21:05 +0200, where I live), you wrote: ZW> I have several contacts in Address Book with very simple new message and ZW> reply templates defined. When I try to write new message or reply, these AB ZW> templates are not used. Instead of them, The Bat! uses account or folder ZW> templates. I observed such behaviour in 3.61.11 version (may be it was ZW> in earlier versions as well) and it is present also in 3.61.12. Cannot confirm. Neither for personal AB templates, nor for AB group templates. -- Groetjes, Roelof '95 - The percentage of people who will have to upgrade their hardware The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgps1aYM8lw18.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 2:40 PM, you wrote: >> I can't live with the unstable attachment pane in v. 3.61.12. > Do you have any problem with attachments if you do not drag the > attachment pane anywhere? Second answer on this: I re-installed beta v. 3.61.12 to test what happens if I don't drag the pane. If it has not been dragged after installing this beta, it does not disappear. However, it behaves as if always external. I can't have it in a split window of the message editor, on the left. It covers my text if I do that. When I position it on the right and re-size it to accommodate several attachments, it does remember the size and position relative to my body text within the editor window. But if I open a new message with not much body text and therefore smaller vertical height, the attachment pane is half within the editor window and half out on the monitor screen. I write messages within sized windows that are not full screen, so that I can cascade the folder view of the message I'm replying and TB!'s main window behind my editor window, with just enough visible that a quick click of the cursor will change the focus among the cascaded windows. It's as if the attachment pane is now in permanent external position mode. When the pane first disappeared, I thought that maybe one of my cascaded windows was overlaying it, so I minimized everything, but that didn't help. Once dragged, the attachment actually disappears until TB! is closed and re-launched. Even if this new way is working as designed, it is sufficiently inconvenient to me that I will stay with v. 3.61.11 unless a fixed attachment pane in a split-editor-window fashion is available to me. I will keep on making tests of future betas, until an msi comes along that makes it hard for me to get back to a version that displays the attachment pane the way it's convenient for me. But I'm not going to use an attachment pane that disappears as soon as it is dragged to another position, and keeps on disappearing whether or not any future dragging is done. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
Hallo Mary, On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:37:46 -0500GMT (12-10-2005, 23:37 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MB> I re-installed beta v. 3.61.12 to test what happens if I don't drag MB> the pane. MB> If it has not been dragged after installing this beta, it does not MB> disappear. MB> However, it behaves as if always external. MB> I can't have it in a split window of the message editor, on the left. MB> It covers my text if I do that. Cannot confirm. -- Groetjes, Roelof I think, therefore, I cannot be a moderator. The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpJ0eeMFQAqi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
On 12/10/2005 at 4:16:47 PM [GMT -0500], Mary Bull wrote: > Once I had dragged it to an external position, it never did stay > stable in an internal position. > And whether in the internal position or the external position, it > disappeared when the message window was closed and a new message > window opened. I just tested the attachment pane position etc. It behaves here, no matter where I put it. I tried externally first. It returned and was in the same position on restarting the editor. Same for the other positions I left it within the editor itself. I've noted that the panel cannot be resized once it's docked to the top or bottom of the editor window. Do you have the View/'Store Window Position' option enabled? -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...9 out of 10 serial killers own cats. pgpU0SF3dhwEs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
10/12/2005 6:17 PM Hi Mary, On 10/12/2005 Mary Bull wrote: MB> I can't have it in a split window of the message editor, on the left. MB> It covers my text if I do that. In the seven years I have used The Bat! the attachment pane has never covered the text. I have always left it in the default left vertical position because it always worked. It seems unusual to me that your text would be covered by the attachment pane. I wonder what is causing it to happen to you... I can't find a command to make it do this so I wonder if it is acting as a floating window instead of a docked window when you position it inside the editor window. On my machine it smartly snaps to any of the 4 sides of the editor pane. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Blo, blow. Testing 1 2 3
Hello TBBETA, Just testing my new address, nothing for you to worry about. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.61.01 beta Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
Hello Paul, > The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) She's reporting a problem with 3.6 1.12. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
Hello Curtis! On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 5:12 PM, you wrote: >> Once I had dragged it to an external position, it never did stay >> stable in an internal position. >> And whether in the internal position or the external position, it >> disappeared when the message window was closed and a new message >> window opened. > I just tested the attachment pane position etc. It behaves here, no > matter where I put it. I tried externally first. It returned and was in > the same position on restarting the editor. Same for the other positions > I left it within the editor itself. Can you have it on the left side of the editor window, without it covering text that is aligned left? > I've noted that the panel cannot be resized once it's docked to the top > or bottom of the editor window. I want to dock it on the left side, within the editor window. > Do you have the View/'Store Window Position' option enabled? Yes. I have re-installed v. 3.61.12 for the purposes of answering your questions. The problems remain as I've described them. I don't have much more time to spend on this tonight. Tomorrow I will delete the download I did of v. 3.61.12 and download it again. Since no one else is having problems, perhaps I just have a faulty download. There is no problem whatsoever in v. 3.61.ll except for not remembering the position of an external attachment pane. I never did want an external attachment pane, anyway. So that part was not a problem for me--I was just participating in testing when I confirmed your bug report, Curtis. If v. 3.61.12 will keep its vertical split-screen between the attachment pane and the body text, I will be happy. Right now, it behaves as if I had a permanently floating external attachment pane. It will cover body text unless I put it in the empty space at the right side of my 70-character-per-line wrap. Not acceptable to me, at all. Thanks for replying, Curtis. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
On 12/10/2005 at 6:21:43 PM [GMT -0500], Mary Bull wrote: > Can you have it on the left side of the editor window, without it > covering text that is aligned left? Yes. While composing this message, I moved it to the left and it docked just fine, pushing the text margin to the right so that it doesn't cover the text. > I have re-installed v. 3.61.12 for the purposes of answering your > questions. The problems remain as I've described them. > I don't have much more time to spend on this tonight. > Tomorrow I will delete the download I did of v. 3.61.12 and download > it again. > Since no one else is having problems, perhaps I just have a faulty > download. Or a faulty interface config file. That's a gremlin of the past and is likely to still be at large. That would be the tbuser.def file, I think. What you could do is to rename it after shutting down TB! and then restarting TB!. Try the editor again and see if the problem persists. The tbuser.def file is in your mail directory. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Software Independent: Won't work with ANY software. pgpdaDt4XNKGO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unstable attachment pane in The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta)
Hello Curtis! On Wednesday, October 12, 2005, 7:48 PM, you wrote: >> Since no one else is having problems, perhaps I just have a faulty >> download. > Or a faulty interface config file. That's a gremlin of the past and is > likely to still be at large. That would be the tbuser.def file, I think. > What you could do is to rename it after shutting down TB! and then > restarting TB!. Try the editor again and see if the problem persists. Did that. Was hopeful. But problem persists. Decided to try a Repair in Add/Remove. But that didn't help. Have just done the fresh download and install. But, that didn't help. As you can see by my sig, I've gone back to v. 3.61.ll. Perhaps it's some quirk between my system and v. 3.61.12 that will resolve itself in the next beta. Thanks again for all your help! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/