Re[2]: assign a shortcut

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, March 30, 2006, 11:24:58 AM, (Internet Time - @767) you wrote:

Hello Henk,

HMdB> Got it! First I tried to doubleclick or press "enter" in the shortcuts
HMdB> menu on the menu-item that I wanted to assign a shortcut to but that
HMdB> didn't work. Then I went back to the menu and toolbars and after opening
HMdB> the lay-out menu and I put the cursor on the item I wanted to assign a
HMdB> shortcut to. After that I went back to the shortcutsmenu and after
HMdB> doubleclicking or pressing "enter" on the item I wanted to assign a
HMdB> shorcu to the shortcut editormenu opened.
HMdB> After closing and re-opening the Bat! the shortcut is still there.

   Thanks for your help. If it wasn't for this message, and the
   others, I would have never been able to figure the customizing out.
   But with your help, I now have my shortcuts and menu items back to
   where they were before this newest beta version.

   Now that I know how to use it, I really think it has a lot of
   potential and am looking forward to messing around with it.

   Again thanks for your help and everyone else's...


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Re[2]: Move to Folder

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, February 13, 2006, 9:37:44 AM, (Internet Time - @692) you wrote:

Hello Roelof,

RO> That's the wrong action.
RO> You schould have added: Message Controller/Move to folder
RO> The action you added is only relevant in the sorting office.
RO> I guess that it adds the 'move to folder' action to a newly created
RO> filter.


  Thanks Roelof. That did the trick. It had been a long time since I
  added that button and couldn't remember exactly which menu to choose
  from. Sorting Office was the first one I saw that had Move to
  Folder, so chose that one.

  Just fixed it like you said and works like a charm. Thanks again...

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Move to Folder

[Michael Acklin]

Writen At Internet Time - @665, or Monday, February 13, 2006, 08:58:11

Hello All,

   I did a quick search in The Bat! Beta list, but was not able to
   find anything very quickly.

   In version 3.70.07 "Qigong", I lost all my customized settings and
   had to redo them. So far everything is working fine, except the
   "Move to Folder" button.

   I went to customize, Standard (Toolbar), selected Sorting Office
   Form, and added "Move the Message to a folder".

   After selecting OK in the Customize Dialog, I see the Button with
   the "Move the message to a folder" in the Toolbar, but when I press
   it, nothing happens. It used to bring up a menu that I could select
   the folder I want to move the message to but as of 3.70.07 and
   including 3.70.08, the button is, like we used to say in the Navy,
   an officer button. (It doesn't do anything :) )

   Am I the only one that this happens? And if so, what am I doing
   wrong?

   Thanks

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Re[3]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, November 3, 2005, 5:58:04 AM, (Internet Time - @540) you wrote:

Hello Vili,

V> It  was  a  leftover  developer  TB!  code,  dont  worry about it! (It
V> contained the last opened email's body).

Thanks Vili. I just wanted to make sure and you confirmed my thoughts.


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Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 11:48:26 AM, (Internet Time - @783) you wrote:

Hello 9Val,

 9> Hi All,

9> The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from:
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi

9> [-] a.htm created

After installing 3.62.09 yesterday and after a spyware scan this
morning, CouterSpy found "a.htm" and was calling it a "Key logger
Trojan".

Well when I see anything that says Trojan, I delete it. I had never
had this show up in the spyware scans before this morning.

What exactly is a.htm anyway? Now that I know where I came from, I
will be less sensitive about this file. But would like to know exactly
what it is for.




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Re[3]: Tabs not working Win98

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, October 6, 2005, 8:30:15 AM, (Internet Time - @604) you wrote:

Hello Stuart,

 SC> Hello Michael,
SC> Thursday, October 6, 2005, 8:18:11 AM, you wrote:

 MS>>> It seems that Tabs are not working - defined Tabs in
MS>>> Options-Preferences-Tabs are not displayed.

MA>> Where are they supposed to be displayed? I added some tabs in the
MA>> Options-Preferences-Messages-Tabs (The only Tabs I saw) and restarted
MA>> The Bat!. But I guess I don't know where to look for them. There are
MA>> not in the Folder window, so I guess I am kinda lost on this one.

SC> See attached screenshot.


Thanks Stuart, that helped a lot. I had not turned on the View-Message
List Tabs, and that was why I was not seeing the Tabs. Turned that on
and now I have the tabs just like your screen shot has.

Thanks again...

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Re: Tabs not working Win98

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, October 6, 2005, 2:46:01 AM, (Internet Time - @365) you wrote:

Hello Martin,

 MS> It seems that Tabs are not working - defined Tabs in
MS> Options-Preferences-Tabs are not displayed.

Where are they supposed to be displayed? I added some tabs in the
Options-Preferences-Messages-Tabs (The only Tabs I saw) and restarted
The Bat!. But I guess I don't know where to look for them. There are
not in the Folder window, so I guess I am kinda lost on this one.

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Re: Different versions

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, September 29, 2005, 3:24:49 PM, (Internet Time - @892) you wrote:

Hello Stuart,

 SC> Hello tbbeta,

SC>   Can someone provide me with a link to 3.61.01, 3.61.02, 3.61.03 &
SC> 3.61.04. I am trying to test IMAP on these as I think somewhere in
SC> there it used to work not too bad. Newer betas are not so good.

SC> This version 3.60.07 does not filter correctly at all.


Here you go Stuart. I have tried to keep up to date on this and am
missing a couple, but I do have the 1.03 and 1.04 that you need.

Hope this helps...

http://www.iamfreeop.com/downloads/

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Re[2]: British Lion Roars

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, August 15, 2005, 7:05:21 PM, (Internet Time - @045) you wrote:

Hello Paul,


PVN>
PVN> I hope you posted this to this forum by mistake. Not that it is good
PVN> or bad...just doesn't belong here.

Yes I did. Again I apologize for my mistake, all.


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Re: British Lion Roars

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, August 15, 2005, 6:57:34 PM, (Internet Time - @039) you wrote:

Hello Michael,

 MA> Written At Monday, August 15, 2005, 18:49:43

MA> Hello All,

Sorry. Sent this to the wrong list. I know it isn't related to TBBeta.

Sorry again...

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British Lion Roars

[Michael Acklin]

Written At Monday, August 15, 2005, 18:49:43

Hello All,

   First off, I just got this from a friend and would like to share it
   with you all. I am an American and this particular quote made me
   start thinking. I know we have a lot of diversity on this list, but
   I would like just to say that I agree with this and thought it
   would let others know, at least for me, how some of us Americans
   feel.


BRITISH LION ROARS 

Why does Tony Blair’s strength make me worry about my own country’s 
weakness? 

Why has the vigor and courage of England’s response to terrorism given
me second thoughts about America’s? 

The contrast has been stark. 

We were hit and they were hit. We acted one way and they acted another,
and their way seems better. 

Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been a George W. Bush supporter from the
beginning. I believe going into Iraq was the right thing, and I
support our efforts and our troops there. 

But I’m beginning to get the idea that we’re more talk than action, and
that we may lack an essential mental toughness, and that we are dangerously
bound by nonsensical political correctness. The cumulative impact of
these things is to endanger our nation and its survival. 

As I have seen England’s leaders respond to the attacks against it,
I’ve been embarrassed by the failure of our leaders to respond with
similar resolve and candor. 

At the top, the British liberal is showing more spine than the American 
conservative. 

No one is more proud of being an American than I am, and no one loves
this country more I do. But an honest assessment shows that we are lacking,
in our culture and in our leadership, and have apparently grown soft in
our prosperity and insularity.

We don’t know how to take a punch, and we don’t know how to put up a
fight. 

The characteristics that equipped us to win the Second World War seem
now to be in short supply. 

We still weep over September 11, while the British jaw clenches in
resolve. We lost 3,000 and are patting down grandmothers at the airport; they
lost 56 and are getting ready to shut down militant mosques.

Our president says Islam is a religion of peace; their prime minister
says militant Islam will not be tolerated in his country.

Our internees get ACLU lawyers; theirs are going to be charged with
treason. 

Our president gives us a diversity lecture; their prime minister says 
immigrants have a duty to support and accept English values and learn
the English language.

It scares me. Down deep, I just have the sense that they’re doing
things right and we’re doing things wrong. I wonder if their centuries of
repelling invaders and having to fight for their very existence has given them a
certain fortitude that our comfort and security have denied us. 

Yes, after we were attacked we put flags on our cars and our president 
talked tough. And, yes, we did go into Afghanistan as we should have
and we did go into Iraq as we should have, but after we got there we never
quite got the job done.

Osama is still on the loose, in apparent command of an operational
terrorist organization, the Taliban is still in the field and bloodying us, we
are presiding over a quagmire in Iraq and we haven’t figured out how to
keep a bunch of savages with bombs from blowing up our trucks and troops.
We’ve sent our troops out, Vietnam style, and tied their hands behind their
backs. 

We’ve taught our Army how to build schools, but we won’t free it to
kill our enemies.

It’s almost as if, at the highest levels of our government, we’ve
forgotten how to fight. We seem to be all hat and no cattle.

Tony Blair said that people preaching militant Islam and violence would
be deported, if foreigners, and locked up, if Britons. He said those found
praising or encouraging the terrorists would be tried for treason. 

Tony Blair said that militant Islamic websites would be shut down, that 
militant Islamic bookstores would be shut down, that militant Islamic
coffee shops would be shut down, that militant Islamic mosques would be shut
down. 

Tony Blair said imams preaching jihad would be imprisoned or deported.

Our president is insisting that this is not about religion, it is about 
terror. George W. Bush is asking for tolerance for Muslims; Tony Blair
is asking for accountability from them. One defends Muslim leaders; the
other insists that they stand up and denounce their violent fellow believers.

They’re kicking butt, we’re kissing butt. 
England is chasing down those who attacked it; we’re confiscating
fingernail files by the millions.

We’re randomly checking bags on the subway. And ignoring our southern 
border. And winning hearts and minds. 

The American response has been one of weakness; the English response
has been one of strength. It’s really that simple.

They’re fighting and we’re pussyfooting. 

And that’s become obvious in recent days. 

Sometimes you don’t realize how short you are, until you see how tall
the other fellow is. 

And Tony Blair is pretty tall. 

- by Bob Lo

Re: TB IMAP horror stories

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 29, 2005, 1:37:32 PM, (Internet Time - @817) you wrote:

Hello Gary,

 G> Hi Ya'll,

G> Well, given this new release, I have found the following "deal-breakers."
G> These are new, in addition to the long time problem of email bodies not
G> getting loaded to be read.

G> Replying to some email, using F4 sometimes inserts the wrong highlighted
G> parts of email... I mean, it inserts not even the same email I was replying
G> to.. It inserts a different body.

Can not confirm. I just used the F4 and had no problem with this
reply.




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Re: 3.51.10: the 'delete' nit is back

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, July 25, 2005, 10:39:07 AM, (Internet Time - @693) you wrote:

Hello MikeD,

 M3> Hello Maxim,

M3>   Actually it returned in 9, but I saw that .10 was out before I
M3>   posted it, so wanted to make sure that it was still around.

M3>   Tab from the folder view to the folder list window, the preview
M3>   window is gray with 'no message selected' displayed there.

M3>   Crtl-A will select and highlight all of the messages in the list
M3>   window, but 'delete' will not delete the messages.

M3>   Once a message is selected delete works as expected.


Confirmed. I get the same thing that MikeD gets every time. But I
didn't know where the cursor was. It was invisible until I hit the
ALT-A then all the message were high lighted. But the Trash Can was
grey'd out.



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Re: The Bat! 3.51.10 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, July 25, 2005, 8:49:49 AM, (Internet Time - @617) you wrote:

Hello Maxim,

 MM> [-] (#0004977) Forwarding Filter does not work

 Confirmed Fixed. Thanks...

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Re[3]: Sorting Office/Filter

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, July 23, 2005, 7:25:46 PM, (Internet Time - @059) you wrote:


Hello Peter,

 PH>> Answering a 2 days old message (Friday, July 22, 2005, 20:02)

PH>> Hello Michael,

MA>>> Uno AMD Athlon XP ("Windows #wn #wai/#wma.#wmi #was (build #wbd) on a
MA>>> Single/#cpn (#ccd)")

PH>> what kind of plugin have you tested here?


MA>   I don't know what happened to that macro. It is the same as below
MA>   but came out in that message all garbled. I do not now why.

MA>   The plug-in itself is MyMacros 1.11a and again why it did that I
MA>   have no idea.

I found the problem. On a New Message I had a space in the macro.
Looked at the difference between Template and Reply and fixed it.

Thanks for pointing that out, Peter...

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filter

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, July 23, 2005, 6:20:21 PM, (Internet Time - @014) you wrote:

Hello Peter,

 PH> Answering a 2 days old message (Friday, July 22, 2005, 20:02)

PH> Hello Michael,

MA>> Uno AMD Athlon XP ("Windows #wn #wai/#wma.#wmi #was (build #wbd) on a
MA>> Single/#cpn (#ccd)")

PH> what kind of plugin have you tested here?


  I don't know what happened to that macro. It is the same as below
  but came out in that message all garbled. I do not now why.

  The plug-in itself is MyMacros 1.11a and again why it did that I
  have no idea.

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Re: shift tab has lost it's mystery stop

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, July 23, 2005, 12:09:15 PM, (Internet Time - @756) you wrote:

Hello Dwight,

DAC> Did I miss the report, or has it not been remarked upon that there is
DAC> no longer a mystery stop when tabbing backward from message auto view
DAC> window to message list.

I know I just noticed it also. And I never saw a note on it. But it is
working again like it used to. Glad they mysteriously re-added it
again. :)

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Re[2]: Old Smiley Quoting Bug [Re: The Bat! 3.51.9 is now available]

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 22, 2005, 5:39:08 PM, (Internet Time - @985) you wrote:

Hello Mary,

 MB> Hello Michael!

MB> On Friday, July 22, 2005, 5:18 PM, you wrote:

 >>Confirmed
MB>> this bug down!

MB>>> Exactly as you said would happen--no smiley quoted.  

>> I tried both from Confirmed down to smiley on Stuart's Message and on
>> Mary's message from Smiley up to Confirmed and don't see the smiley.

MB> Thanks for testing!

MB> There's a BT issue report to which I've just put a note that the bug
MB> is still present in v. 3.51.9.

MB> Here's the link, if you'd like to add a supporting note:

MB> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889


Note added... :)

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Re[2]: Old Smiley Quoting Bug [Re: The Bat! 3.51.9 is now available]

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 22, 2005, 4:58:04 PM, (Internet Time - @956) you wrote:

Hello Mary,

 Confirmed


MB this bug down!

MB> Exactly as you said would happen--no smiley quoted.  

I tried both from Confirmed down to smiley on Stuart's Message and on
Mary's message from Smiley up to Confirmed and don't see the smiley.


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Re[3]: Old Smiley Quoting Bug [Re: The Bat! 3.51.9 is now available]

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 22, 2005, 4:54:28 PM, (Internet Time - @954) you wrote:

Hello Stuart,

 >>>Confirmed


MB>>> this bug down!  

Did just like Stuart said and I don't see a smiley. It was included in
the highlighted area.

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Re[3]: Reminder: Buggy message list view persists

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 22, 2005, 2:10:51 PM, (Internet Time - @840) you wrote:

Hello Stuart,

SC> I use The Bat! Viewmode for both of them and have attached a screenshot
SC> for each, which should look almost identical as they share the same
SC> viewmode.

Looks almost the same but the columns on the IMAP are more spread out
than the POP view. Do you have the column expansion checked in
Preferences so you can resize them?

I just did that with my IMAP account as Allie mentioned before, and
made my view a lot more "viewable". :)

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Re[2]: Sorting Office/Filter

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 22, 2005, 1:28:20 PM, (Internet Time - @811) you wrote:

Hello 9Val,

 9> Hi Michael,  

MA>>  Is this a known bug or am I doing something wrong? Thanks...

9> Confirmed and fixed.


Dang, I just get back from reporting it and it is already fixed? Wow
great work guys.

Never mind about the report, you all can delete it please:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4977

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Re[2]: testing other digest algo

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 22, 2005, 2:05:02 AM, (Internet Time - @336) you wrote:

Hello Bill,

 BM> What LDAP server are you using?  I have very little luck
BM> verifying with pgp.surfnet.nl.  I am beginning to wonder if
BM> there may be a bug in the GnuPG software.

I have been using pgp.mit.edu to find about 98% of the keys I need.
Maybe that one will help out...

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.51.9 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 22, 2005, 8:34:20 AM, (Internet Time - @607) you wrote:

Hello Dwight,

>> The Bat! 3.51.9 is now available

DAC> Installed fine here. (pro but not running otfe)

Same here. So far so good. Pro and not otfe...


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Re[3]: Memory leak?

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, July 17, 2005, 6:18:19 AM, (Internet Time - @512) you wrote:

Hello Vili,

 V> Hello Goncalo,

>> I have TB! running for almost an hour, I'm replying to TBBeta and
>> this it the memory consumption.

V> I sent this to BT, please support it if you think:

V> 

Note added...


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Re[3]: F4 quoting of selected text is NOT working (was: Re: The Bat! 3.51.4 is now available)

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, July 16, 2005, 5:00:21 PM, (Internet Time - @958) you wrote:

Hello Cees,

C>  it  works.  I  find  it  a really peculiar way of replying to
C> someone. much
C>  rather use ctrl-r, but it works

That's what I like about these lists. You learn something every day.

Thanks for the tip, Cees...


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Re: Memory leak in the last version, I found it! :)))

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, July 16, 2005, 2:27:26 PM, (Internet Time - @852) you wrote:

Hello Vili,

 V> Hello tbbeta,

V> Ok, I found the cause of the memory leak. I know, that there must be
V> a leak, I felt it :) ...:

V> 1. Check the mem. need of TB! in task manager. Lets say it is X MB.

V> 2.  Ctrl+N,  new mail. And just close it, dont do anything. Repeat it,
V> for example 10 times.

V> 3.  Check the mem. need of TB! in task manager. It will be ca. X+3 MB.
V> So, more email you send, more RAM will be used up...

V> I did not try it by sending, I guess, that would cause a leak, too.

V> Please confirm it.

V> PS.: No antivirus software, no plugin, WinXP Home SP1 :)), 512 MB RAM.
V> TB! v3.51.4


Ok Vili, I see what you are talking about. I tired the CTL-N with in
the IMAP account and nothing really happened.

Then I switched over to a POP account and on the Process Explorer when
I hit CTL-N the "Private Bytes History" jumped to 54 mb from about 3
mb. I have attached a screen shot.

Maybe you can make some kind of sense out of this, as I am no
programer. :)

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Re: Memory leak in the last version, I found it! :)))

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, July 16, 2005, 2:27:26 PM, (Internet Time - @852) you wrote:

Hello Vili,

 V> Hello tbbeta,

V> Ok, I found the cause of the memory leak. I know, that there must be
V> a leak, I felt it :) ...:

V> 1. Check the mem. need of TB! in task manager. Lets say it is X MB.

V> 2.  Ctrl+N,  new mail. And just close it, dont do anything. Repeat it,
V> for example 10 times.

V> 3.  Check the mem. need of TB! in task manager. It will be ca. X+3 MB.
V> So, more email you send, more RAM will be used up...

V> I did not try it by sending, I guess, that would cause a leak, too.

Vili try this nice little program called Process Explorer. It is
basically a task manager on steroids. I have been able to troubleshoot
many applications and determine what the problem is. Sounds like you
have already figured it out, but this will show you more in depth
analysis...

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html

BTW it is freeware with no spyware :)


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Re[3]: The Bat! 3.51.4 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 15, 2005, 3:14:43 PM, (Internet Time - @885) you wrote:

Hello Peter,

 PH> Answering a current message (Friday, July 15, 2005, 22:10)

PH> Good evening Roelof,

RO>> When I click on the download link for 3.51.4 I get a '404 - HTTP not found'

PH> It seems they have removed it ... . I've got it at 21:59 GMT+2,
PH> but now it's not
PH> available anymore...


Hmmm I just downloaded it now at 00:02 GMT (16 July 2005). Maybe I
haven't read far enough to see if it has been fixed. Peter's message
was like 2 hours ago. So maybe it is fixed now.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.51.4 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 15, 2005, 3:29:58 PM, (Internet Time - @895) you wrote:

Hello Mike and 9Val,

 MR> Hello 9Val,
MR>  
MR> On 7/15/2005, 02:49 PM, you scribbled:

9>> Hi All,

9>> The Bat! 3.51.4 is now available from:
9>> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

MR> Well, it starts fine... See how it goes.


   Everything is working for me, so far. Haven't started checking
   other's problems yet, but running smooth so far...

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Re[2]: Accessing Beta Site

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, July 9, 2005, 4:32:06 PM, (Internet Time - @938) you wrote:

Hello Wayne,


WH> Not sure what you mean by that. How do I "change references" and why
WH> should I? I also don't understand what you mean by having a hard time
WH> finding my message. How did you know to look for it if you did not see
WH> it in the first place? Please explain. I am very much a novice using
WH> The Bat!

   Sorry didn't mean to really mess things up here. But as the
   others mentioned and has been explained fully, I use the threaded
   mode more with mailing list, including Dopus, to make sure I follow
   the subjects and see the replies before moving to another subject.

   And what I meant by following your message, basically was, I read
   through all messages first and then if someone has not replied to a
   question, I will go back and find the message that needed
   answering, such was your case. But when I looked for your Subject of
   "Accessing the Beta Site", I couldn't find it in the subject
   headers. What I ended up doing was using the Search feature to find
   your name and that worked perfect. :)

   Anyway again didn't mean to confuse you with the references, as you
   found out, we shouldn't change them anyway. But maybe you will be
   able to see the advantage of the Threaded mode The Bat! uses. As I
   said before, it helps a lot with mailing lists. And I too am a
   novice with The Bat! and it gets better all the time, thanks to the
   great group of people here on these lists. Still learning...


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Re: Accessing Beta Site

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, July 9, 2005, 1:50:09 PM, (Internet Time - @826) you wrote:

Hello Wayne,

 WH> Is anyone having trouble accessing the beta web site? I did no problem
WH> for several days and now I am getting an "incorrect login or
WH> password". I tried to reset the password and even tried creating a new
WH> account, twice, and cannot get on.

Hey Wayne, glad to see you on TBBeta. I know you from the Dopus list.
Anyway, I just tried getting on the Beta Site and had no problem at
all, but I didn't need a password or username. This is the url I went
to: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

But if you are speaking of the Tracking site, I just went there also
and did have to enter my username and password. It is at:
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/main_page.php

And one last thing. Had a real hard time trying to find your message.
I thought it was a new subject, but in fact I guess you replied and
didn't change the references. I finally found it under the "IMAP users:
auto disconnect string." :)



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Re[4]: IMAP "No Message Loaded" [was Re: 3.5.36]

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, July 5, 2005, 11:30:36 AM, (Internet Time - @729) you wrote:

Hello Tony,


TB> And therein lies the problem, mine should be permanently connected or at
TB> least it should connect whenever needed. Mulberry does, Mail 2.0 does, The
TB> bat doesn't. It doesn't seem to be aggressive enough and if it can't
TB> connect first time it just sits there dumb.

I have not had any problems with connecting to or disconnecting from
Fastmail IMAP using TB! I did try Alie's suggestion with adding the
commands "Connect to Server" and "Disconnect to Server" on my menu
bar. And that helps with correcting the number of messages read and
unread and deleting them.

I know this may sound dumb, but are you sure you have the correct
password entered in The Bat! As it seems like TB! is the only with the
IMAP problem. And also try to use the Connect and Disconnect from the
server to see if that helps with the "No message loaded". I have seen
that on occasion, but it was because I had something else going on in
the background with my DSL Connection.

Would like to see you get this working, Tony...


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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, July 4, 2005, 1:29:54 AM, (Internet Time - @312) you wrote:

Hello Bill,

BM> A - read
BM>B - unread
BM>C - unread

BM> If I position on message A and then go to the account
BM> name in the folder tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me
BM> to message C instead of message B.

   I tried this also, but what I got was the message A being
   highlighted. Not the message C.

   Sorry can't confirm either.


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Re[2]: Weird HTML Message in my Mail. Fwd: New Music Tuesday: George Strait, Jason Mraz, Podcasting and more

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 1, 2005, 3:50:20 PM, (Internet Time - @909) you wrote:

Hello Jonathan,

 JA> Hi Michael Acklin,
JA> On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, you wrote:

>> Hi all,

>> Just got this in the mail and forwarded it to 9Val. Take a look at the
>> 1.eml

>> I have never seen anything like that before. Did I send it to the
>> right developers?

JA>   Can you explain what is weird about it? It looks fine to me, but
JA>   maybe I'm not spotting the weird bit.


Sorry I am using the latest version of The Bat! and it has been fixed
now. Basically I guess The Bat! was not reading it right. I got a
confirmation e-mail from 9Val saying that it was fixed in Version
3.5.36

Basically all it said was "Invalid HTML" please forward to the
developers.

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Re[2]: 3.5.36

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, July 1, 2005, 3:21:50 PM, (Internet Time - @890) you wrote:

Hello Zygmunt,

 ZW> On Friday, July 1, 2005, at 15:29:49 [UTC-0400] (Friday, July 1, 2005 21:29
ZW> my local time) Vili wrote:

>> Actually  I  am  using  v26, that works. Please send me direct link to
>> v27-31  (I  cannot  log into beta site :( to find out when the problem
>> occurred first. Thank you.

ZW> Probably the versions older than .33 were removed from beta site, I cannot
ZW> see any of them there. I know that my problems started with 3.5.31. Version
ZW> 3.5.30 works well with Exchange MAPI protocol.

Hiya Zygmunt and Vili. I have set up my web server to be able to
download the older beta versions. Take a look in the following link...

http://www.iamfreeop.com/downloads

Hopefully that will help you out, Vili...

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Re: Webmail, that threads correctly

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, June 30, 2005, 8:51:47 PM, (Internet Time - @119) you wrote:

Hello Vili,

 V> Hello All!

V> Could you offer me a FREE webmail with POP3 access that I could get an
V> email  from  and  if  I write, I dont mess up the thread on this list?
V> Anyone using something like this?


I can send you a Gmail Account Invite, if you want. I have like 150 :)

And I believe it works just fine with the threading. I have seen
others writing from their Gmail Accounts and haven't heard anyone
complain. And it is Pop3 accessible.

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Re: TB!3.5.33 a couple of bugs?

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 29, 2005, 5:54:16 PM, (Internet Time - @996) you wrote:

Hello harlekin,

hhed> 2.
hhed> Template are not being used?
hhed> I have set up a template for new messages for my TB folder in order to
hhed> easily post here. But when clicking on my TB folder and then choosing
hhed> new message it does not use this!!

hhed> anybody confirm?

Sorry could not confirm either of your observations. I just added the
below template with both Reply and New for my Bat! Beta folder and as
you can see they worked at intended.

Maybe someone else can confirm. :worm:


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Re[2]: [OT] Re: It worries me...

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 29, 2005, 12:11:29 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Alexander,

 ASK> Hello George Mitchell & everyone else,
  ^
ASK> on 29-Jun-2005 at 16:32 you (George Mitchell) wrote:

>> Clearly the code has exceeded the developers' ability to manage it.

ASK> Are you a programmer?


No I am not a programer...:)

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Re: SOT: Looks like I'm missing all the fun

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 29, 2005, 11:24:32 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello MAU,

 M> Hello all,

M> So I leave you alone for a few days because I'm terribly busy and even
M> out of the country for one week and you all go and start one of those
M> 'Happy Hour' parties where you get a free new version every hour. How
M> discourteous of you! ;-)

M> BTW, while I was away I took this picture of 9Val at work:

M>   http://www.rancho-k.com/fun/9Val.jpg


:rofl2: Good one, Mau...

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Re: The Bat! 3.5.0.33 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 4:10:14 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello 9Val,

 9> Hi All,

9> The Bat! 3.5.33 is now available from:
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9> The only change is non-working dispatcher.

I changed the Subject.

But tested the message dispatcher and working again as it did in the
past. Downloaded all 8 messages, no problems.

And Mary, I am going to leave it on. I like that feature. :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 4:10:14 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello 9Val,

 9> Hi All,

9> The Bat! 3.5.33 is now available from:
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9> The only change is non-working dispatcher.


And for Vili:

http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb3533.rar

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Re[2]: 3.5.31 folder maintenance

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 3:04:45 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Charlene,

 CF> Hi Mary Bull,

CF> Tuesday, June 28, 2005 
CF> you let us know -at least in parts- :


>> So, will you go write a BT report?
CF> Any support welcome, follow:
CF> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4850

Confirmed. Noted Added to above BT...

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Re[2]: Bug? 3.5.32 Mail Dispatcher will not download but a single message at each connection

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 1:58:45 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Mary,

MB>>> Thank you so very much!
MB>>> If you like, would you please add a note to my BT report?
MB>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4845

   You are absolutely correct, Mary. I set it up and I watched the
   whole process. I checked all the messages on the server (4) to be
   downloaded and then I watched the Connection Center.

   It showed 1/4, then 2/4, then 3/4 and finally 4/4 as being
   downloaded but I only got one message at a time.

   And I am making a note on your BT report as we speak.



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Re[2]: Bug? 3.5.32 Mail Dispatcher will not download but a single message at each connection

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 12:35:03 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Mary,

MB> Thank you so very much!
MB> If you like, would you please add a note to my BT report?
MB> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4845

Hi Mary, I am not seeing what you are talking about. I guess I have
never used the Mail Dispatcher. I always download all mail when it
checks the mail box of all my accounts. All I see is the CC working
and downloading the messages.

How do I use the Mail Dispatcher? I will look around the program and
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Re[2]: Very Important Question

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, June 26, 2005, 5:35:41 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Martin,

MS> SmartBat (Tools Menu or F6) is what you're looking for, I guess.

  Yes it is Martin. I just found out on the TB Tech list. Nick Danger
  brought up the same short cut/menu item. And thanks for your reply.
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Re[2]: Blank Menuitem

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 25, 2005, 1:36:39 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Alexander,

ASK> Its always OK here.

ASK> I changed to Default & restarted TB just as you suggested. And I saw the
ASK> menu item, and I saw that it was good. :-)

ASK> Then I said "let there be theme!" (ok, enough of this). I picked the
ASK> Office2003 theme that David reported as having the problem, and restarted
ASK> TB again, and again - no problem. Doesn't seem to be theme related I'd say.

ASK> Maybe it has to do with the fact that I am using TB without any
ASK> language/international pack?

Maybe thats it. I don't have the language/international pack install
either. And I don't have the blank line...


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Re[2]: Blank Menuitem

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 25, 2005, 1:00:25 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Mary,

MB> Hmm. What if you change the theme to Default and then Restart TB!? (If
MB> you have that much time to give to testing this.)

No, I tried that and I still do NOT have the Blank line in either
Folder View or the Main Menu. That is changing from Office 2003 theme
to the Default theme, shutting down The Bat!, restarting TB!

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Re[2]: Blank Menuitem

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 25, 2005, 11:22:15 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Mary,

MB> Confirmed. One blank item here, too.

MB> That's in the Specials menu on TB!'s main window, not the Specials
MB> menu in the View Folder window.

Not blank on either Folder View or Main Window. I am using the Office
2003 Theme.

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Re[4]: Very Important Question

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 25, 2005, 9:36:04 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Paul,

PVN> Change and improvement doesn't happen unless someone is willing to be
PVN> bold enough to go outside the box. There is nothing to say the other
PVN> editors are correct and the TB is wrong. The reverse is also true.
PVN> They _are_ different. So, I prefer MicroEd for email to anything else.
PVN> I also use OpenOffice and WordPerfect and MetaPad and Notepad. Each
PVN> has its strengths and weaknesses. I certainly don't expect each to
PVN> conform to a single set of conventions. If they did, we would have no
PVN> need for all but one of them. I am certain you do not want to be just
PVN> like me and I can assure you the reverse is also true! 8-}

BTW, is there any way to invoke MicroEd for just text formatting?
(Other than New/Reply/Forward that is). I was trying to edit a
list and MicroEd was working great. I just don't want to have to
make a new message or reply to one to open the program it self. I
have looked in the Help files/in the Bat Directory and find
nothing on starting MicroEd stand alone.

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Re[4]: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 CC Still in Background

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:59:29 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Avi,


AY> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4830

AY> Thanks to Bill McCarthy for first pointing this out. Bill and Charlene
AY> and anyone else who has comments on the weirdness of this, please
AY> enter your notes on the above report.

Done also...


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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 CC Still in Background

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 25, 2005, 4:34:03 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Charlene,

CF> At first I did not use my own shortcut but the old known Alt+F2
CF> keystroke. This one works and opens CC in foreground as it should. When
CF> I create my own customised shortcuts (I was lazy and took Alt+F2 as
CF> check-all-account and Alt+F3 for active account check) it works as you
CF> described in background. So confirmation on this. But Alt+F3 now should
CF> do according to your description a complete check for all my accounts.
CF> This does not happen, so still no confirmation on this.

CF> Hm... if a customised Alt+F2 does open CC in background and an untouched
CF> native Alt+F2 opens CC in foreground, Rit really should take a second
CF> look at the code.

Confirmed...

You are absolutely correct. I just found the 2 F2's in the menu. Under
Account/Get New Mail, the F2 is defined as Current Account and the CC
is in the Foreground.

Under Tools/Get New Mail for all, the ALT-F2 is defined for all
accounts and the CC is in the Foreground.

And when you redefine the Hotkeys, things start getting weird. :)



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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 CC Still in Background

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 25, 2005, 2:13:20 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Avi,

AY> Charlene, to see this bug, you must go to Options>>Preferences>>System
AY> Hot Keys and set up a hotkey for "Check Mail for ALL Accounts" and
AY> "Check Mail for Current Account". Then when you use that hotkey you
AY> will see that the CC opens in the background and that the Check Mail
AY> for Current Account actually checks mail for all accounts.

 This is really weird. I set up the Hotkeys like you said (Had to use
 a different combination with the Check all accounts) but both times,
 the CC was only in the background.

 When I did the ALT-F2 in the previous message, I did not have the
 HotKeys defined and the CC showed up in the forground but was
 checking all accounts.

 When I did the ALT-F2, with the HotKey defined, it only checked the
 current account, but the CC was in the background.

 When I did the CTL-ALT-= (What I have defined as Check all accounts)
 it checked all accounts, but the CC was in the Background again.

 When one step further and the Bat Icon in the System Tray, I right
 clicked and selected "Check Current Account". The CC came to the
 foreground and checked only the current account. And the same with
 the Bat Icon, "Check All Accounts". The CC came to the foreground and
 checked all accounts.

 Am I doing this right? Is this the same thing you are getting, Avi?


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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 CC Still in Background

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 25, 2005, 2:13:20 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Avi,


AY> Charlene, to see this bug, you must go to Options>>Preferences>>System
AY> Hot Keys and set up a hotkey for "Check Mail for ALL Accounts" and
AY> "Check Mail for Current Account". Then when you use that hotkey you
AY> will see that the CC opens in the background and that the Check Mail
AY> for Current Account actually checks mail for all accounts.

Confirmed (Sorta)

Although I don't have the Hotkeys defined right now, I tried the
ALT-F2 and it did in fact check ALL accounts. The reason I say this as
with Cree's message I tried it and the CC did show up in the
forground. But when I tried the CTL-ALT-F12, I got a cross hair to do
a screen capture, which is a different program, ClipMate.

I will set up the CTL-ALT-F12 and what it does.


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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, June 24, 2005, 1:29:05 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Marck,


MDP> (pssst - it's not PGP. It's S/MIME!) S/MIME is auto-verified. PGP is
MDP> not since it requires a call to an external application, which should
MDP> only ever be a manual event.


Got it, thanks Marck. Didn't know that until he mentioned that in the
reply. Never used S/MIME before, so I learn something everyday. :)

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, June 24, 2005, 1:30:00 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Martin,

MS> That's because I don't use PGP for automatic signing. I use S/MIME. These
MS> signatures can be verified by TB when checking them against the root
MS> certificates from the address book.

MS> PGP keys are not being verified automaticly, you have to do this yourself
MS> by clicking on them.

MS> Regards,
MS> Martin

 Ah, ok got it now. I never turned ont he S/Mime so that is why.

 Thanks for your help...


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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.5.0.31 is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, June 24, 2005, 1:04:03 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Martin,

MS> Regards,
MS> Martin

 I don't know why, but how do you have your PGP/GPG set up to use with
 TB! ?

 You are the only one that is automatically verified. Every time I get
 a message from you, Martin, it has the little check mark GREEN on the
 right hand side of the message header area. Right next to your rogue
 pic.

 Everyone else, including myself, I have to click the box and PGP
 comes up with the Verification History with the good sig or bad sig.
 And then the little box has the green check or the red X.

 It is only yours that I don't have to do anything. Just curious how
 you have it set up.

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Re[7]: PGP 9.01 no longer works with 30.5.30

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, June 23, 2005, 2:52:28 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello danger,

d> But did this verify kind sir!

d> --
d> Best regards,
d>  dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Yes they both verified for me just fine.


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Re[2]: PGP 9.01 no longer works with 30.5.30

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, June 23, 2005, 10:09:14 AM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Tony,

TB>  And this a message after using the MSI installer. If it's signed then it's
TB>  OK here, if not then it's another thing that's been broke in favour of a
TB>  Microsoft product.

TB>  And before I send it I can clearly see that PGP 9.01 is fine here, I can
TB>  even open PGP preferences from within a Bat menu, don't think I could do
TB>  that before. Has RL been playing with PGP 9 support at all I wonder?

 Good Sig from PGP 9.0. Will check the updates for 9.01, but on this
 message I did get a GOOD Sig...



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Re[4]: 3.5.30 MSI

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 11:47:39 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Avi,

AY> It's okay, Michael. I am very sorry for your inconvenience but
AY> grateful for your sincere attempt to assist.

AY> Candidly speaking, I am really looking for guidance and assistance
AY> from Ritlabs on this. It is fairly certain that the problem pertains
AY> to TB and its implementation of OTFE (as opposed to any localized
AY> problem). See, for example, all of the people who could not start TB
AY> from build 26 to 29. Eventually, they found a workaround; but, until
AY> they did, RL did not seem to take their problem seriously. Only after
AY> they found the workaround - at whatever cost to their own settings -
AY> did RL finally put out a fixed version of TB (build 30) that would
AY> have started without that workaround.

AY> So right now I am just waiting for the fix to the Connection Centre
AY> that will presumably be released within the next few days. Then I will
AY> start my campaign on this OTFE matter in earnest. Of course, the only
AY> thing I really want - what would satisfy me or at least pacify me for
AY> a while - is if RL simply acknowledges that there is a problem and
AY> makes an honest and forthright attempt to schedule work on correcting
AY> it.

Understand completely. And once I get a little more experience in what
I am doing with TB!, I will be able to help out more.

But I am with you on the confirmations from RL. Tony, too, has had
problems and I know others. But I guess that is why I joined this
group, mainly to improve and help where I can.

But with yesterday's problems, I learned a lot. What to backup and
what to do to restore, etc. :)


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Re[2]: 3.5.30 MSI

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, June 23, 2005, 2:17:55 AM, you wrote:

Hello Roelof,


RO> Well, with the etc part I meant that you'd restore the back-up.
RO> The full routine of starting TB when it has no registry settings goes
RO> as follows:
RO> TB: Do you want to use OTFE?
RO> You: Yes
RO> TB: Do you want to create a new account ore restore one from back-up?
RO> You: From back-up

RO> When TB restores the back-up, you need to close it and start it again
RO> before your original registry settings take effect again.

That is what I figured with the OTFE. I got that far and did a
restore. But I guess I did not restart. So anyway I am pretty much
back to where I was, without OTFE.

With the help of Mary with the Smiley's and the Rogue Pics, I have
almost everything back to normal. Still looking for my Swatch macros
and a couple of others, but is no big deal.

Maybe later on I will get brave enough and try it again :) Then I will
write a guide on how to do what you mentioned. Maybe call it "The Bat!
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Re[2]: 3.5.30 MSI

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 12:35:10 PM, (Internet Time - ) you wrote:

Hello Roelof,

RO> Create a back-up
RO> Uninstall TB
RO> Install TB
RO> Start TB
RO> TB asks about OTFE, etc

Well that was a bad experience. :( Been working for the last 7 hours
trying to get me back to where I was.

First I messed up and thought I had a recent backup. Stupid Me. (It
was over 8 months old)

Then I did a restore and that got me back to where I was as of 3 am
this morning. Fine. Backed up TB!. Unistalled TB!. Installed the MSI
files. Everything fine for that part.

Then I started TB! and set up the OTFE. That went well. But when I
started to use TB! all my settings/plugins/templates/customized
settings were gone.

So needless to say, I did the restore again and am back to where I was
before asking this question.

Sorry Avi, can't help you out with the OTFE...




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Re: 3.5.30 MSI

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 22, 2005, 8:40:26 AM, (Internet Time - @611) you wrote:

Hello All,

 MM> Hello Tbbeta,

MM>   Would you please test 3.5.30 MSI:

MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-5-30.msi
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_pro_3-5-30.msi

Ok, I want to install this version, the MSI, this time but I want to
install OTFE with it also. Mainly to test out the info Avi has
mentioned in the past.

My only problem is when I try to do a Custom Installation, there is no
option for OTFE. I read some where that you had to delete your
registration key before installing.

I wanted to find out first before I did that.

Please let me know how you install the OTFE with this MSI version.

Thanks in advance...

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Re[5]: Message navigation shortcuts

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, June 19, 2005, 7:52:04 PM, (Internet Time - @077) you wrote:

Hello Allie,

AM> See the following capture image.

AM> http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/shortcut_config.png

AM> Select the action you wish to create the shortcut for as shown in it.
AM> Place the cursor in the shortcut insertion text entry field. Type n and
AM> the 'Assign' button should now be active. Hit 'Assign' and then hit Ok.

AM> Do the same for the others.

Thanks again, Allie. I thought I had tried that many times, but I
could not get the assign button to come up. I had tried it everywhere
but the "None". After seeing your link, it worked first time. Just was
not putting the "N" in the "None" box.

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Re[3]: Message navigation shortcuts

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, June 19, 2005, 12:49:12 PM, (Internet Time - @784) you wrote:

Thanks Allie,

AM> Ok. Bring up the customize panel.

AM> In the Select Container menu, find and select:

AM> Message List Pop-up Menu
AM> The navigation options to configure are right there at the top.

AM> Now find:
AM> Folder Pop-up menu
AM> The navigation options to configure are at the top of the list of
AM> options that appear.

AM> Lastly find:
AM> Message View Pane Pop-up menu
AM> The navigation options are there at the top as well.

Found exactly what you meant. Found all 3 instances and saw the
shortcuts for each. Now if I could figure out how to add "N" to the
shortcuts or how to edit them, I would be in business :)

Again thanks for your help...

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Re: Message navigation shortcuts

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, June 19, 2005, 10:32:50 AM, (Internet Time - @689) you wrote:

Hello Allie,

 AM> Hi all,

AM> I see that the customization panel includes message navigation shortcuts
AM> for all the 'containers' in the main Window.

AM> In this way, I've managed to configure 'n' to move me to the next unread
AM> message no matter which part of the main window is in focus. When I just
AM> started using 'n', I could make it work only with the message list in
AM> focus.

AM> This enhancement is a major improvement from user POV. Using the
AM> spacebar alone for navigation just doesn't cut it for me since it forces
AM> you to scroll entire messages before being able to move to the next
AM> unread message.


Can you please let me know how you did this. I have looked everywhere
for the things you mentioned in your above message. I know exactly
what you are talking about as I use Mulberry sometimes and the "N" and
spacebar to navigate through the messages. I would also like to setup
the bat like that.

Just unable to figure out where to do it.

Thanks in advance...

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Re: 3.5.30

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, June 19, 2005, 10:54:01 AM, (Internet Time - @704) you wrote:

Hello Maxim,

MM>   http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb3530.rar

MM> Even if you were using betas .26-.29 and it did start
MM> normally, you should upgrade to .30.

  Up and running with no problems!

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Re[2]: 3.5.26 don't start

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, June 17, 2005, 10:18:42 AM, (Internet Time - @679) you wrote:

Hello Kevin,

KC> It wasn't empty even though TB didn't display them. I manually removed
KC> the entries. The end result is TB still hangs.

I was just doing a F9 on your headers of this message looking for your
key, 0x3A8E5CAD, and I noticed something. I don't know if you have
tried to start The Bat! with OTFE off. This is what I saw in your
header:

X-Archive: encrypt

Maybe I am wrong but thought I would ask anyway. I know I have been
following your problem for the last couple of days and was just trying
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Re[2]: Inconsistant viewing in Message List

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, June 16, 2005, 8:49:24 AM, (Internet Time - @617) you wrote:

Hello Stuart,

 SC> Hello Stuart,
SC> Thursday, June 16, 2005, 8:44:21 AM, you wrote:

SC> Addendum:

SC> I also notice that once you get to the bottom visible message and push
SC> the  down  arrow  key  one  more  time  the  messages  now jump up two
SC> messages.

I can confirm the "Good Part" of your previous message. That works
fine for me.

But I could not get the "Bad Part" to work at all. I tried in 3 or 4
different message lists and when I get to the bottom, it just moves to
the next one, not the jumping of the messages.

I did notice that you are running Win98 while I am running WinXP.
Don't know if that has anything to do with it or not, but am running
the same version of The Bat! as you, 3.5.27.

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Scrollbar problem in Account Tree Revisisted

[Michael Acklin]

Writen At Internet Time - @614, or Thursday, June 16, 2005, 08:44:32

Hello tbbeta,

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

 AM> Hi all,

AM> Can you all duplicate the following?:

AM> Setup your account tree so that the scroll-bar isn't required and
AM> doesn't show up. You may have to collapse accounts to do this.

AM> Now expand an account or two so that the scroll-bar appears and the full
AM> folder list isn't in view, taking up more than the space provided in the
AM> accounts pane. Scroll downwards, and then collapse a lower account so that
AM> what's left may now be displayed in the account tree area.

AM> I note two things:
AM> - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided
AM> - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to
AM> scroll the upper folders back into view.

With the new version of The Bat! (3.5.27), I revisited this previous
known problem.

It looks like it is getting better as I was messing around with it
just now. I believe the problem still exists, but not as bad as it
was. It does not do as the two things that Allie mentioned above, but
there is still some weird behavior. When I go to the bottom of the
scroll bar, it jumps to the bottom and there is a lot of "White
Space". But if I move the scroll bar up just a little the display area
will "Jump" into the correct position.

But at the same time, I have had 2 AV's doing this too. Here is one:

=

Access Violation at address 0005096E. Read of Address 0005096E.

=

Sorry I didn't get the address of the other one.

Just providing some follow-up on known previous problems...

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Re: 3.5.06 Again no way to close Windows with TB running

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 1:49:23 PM, (Internet Time - @825) you wrote:

Hello Charlene,

 CF> Hello all,

CF> since we get no hints on what has changed in the latest major re-release
CF> version I did some exploration on my own -and I found out that:

CF> It is again no more possible to close windows in case TB is up. The same
CF> effect we had earlier and which was reported to be fixed already in the
CF> past in now nagging again in V 3.5.26

CF> Steps to reproduce:
CF> 1) run TB
CF> 2) close Windows (start menu or pushing the power button once)
CF> 3) nothing happens.

CF> Seems that the term signal is suppressed again.
CF> Please confirm on https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4763
CF> to prove it is not one person alone on this issue.

Sorry Charlene, I couldn't confirm this either.

I tired shutting down with CC and without CC and both times I
had a clean shut down.

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Re[2]: Anti virus quarantine folder, how to move?

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 11:03:04 AM, (Internet Time - @710) you wrote:

Hello Michael,

 

MA> --On Wednesday, June 15, 2005 16:37 +0100 Chris Wilson 
MA> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>
>>
>>   I want to move my AVG anti virus "quarantine" folder to another
>> account, there doesn't appear to be an option to do this. Have I missed
>> something? Thanks.

MA> Have you tried dragging and dropping the Folder? Not for sure but I was
MA> able to do that with other folders, but haven't move the AVG Anti-Virus
MA> folder.

MA> Give it a try...

Nope that doesn't work. Sorry.

Tried to move it from one account to another, but didn't work. I was
able to move it "OUT" of the directory tree, but was not able to move
it to another account.

Sorry for the misinformation...


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Re: Anti virus quarantine folder, how to move?

[Michael Acklin]

--On Wednesday, June 15, 2005 16:37 +0100 Chris Wilson 
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  I want to move my AVG anti virus "quarantine" folder to another
account, there doesn't appear to be an option to do this. Have I missed
something? Thanks.


Have you tried dragging and dropping the Folder? Not for sure but I was 
able to do that with other folders, but haven't move the AVG Anti-Virus 
folder.


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Re[2]: Distributed "AS IS"

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, June 14, 2005, 1:38:22 PM, (Internet Time - @818) you wrote:

Hello MaXxX,


M> True - but, however it's a typical clause, I'd dare to question it, as
M> it explicitly declares that the program to which this EULA pertains
M> might prove useless (fitness for a particular purpose) and it's the
M> user's problem if it does. In other words, it's a sort of an
M> anti-warranty: "even if we ship you a brick instead of a working
M> machine, it's your problem". I wonder how such clauses make their way
M> in and stay in the industry, despite being obviously open for all
M> kinds of misuse. I mean, if I were to buy a vacuum cleaner, that would
M> have "inside this box is a vacuum cleaner, but perhaps broken, or
M> rusted beyond repair, you can find out once you pay" printed on the
M> box, I'd rather stay away, eh? Makes me wonder, that's all.


But I believe you get to "Try it out" for 30 days before buying the
program. That way you can put it through it's paces and see if it
meets your needs. If not then delete it off your computer.


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Re[2]: Interface question?

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, June 9, 2005, 6:05:57 PM, (Internet Time - @004) you wrote:

Hello MAU,

M> It is not possible. Hopefully it will be possible in the future, but who
M> knows when.

  Thanks, MAU. Just wanted to ask to see. Thanks for letting me
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Interface question?

[Michael Acklin]

Writen At Internet Time - @955, or Thursday, June 09, 2005, 16:56:14

Hello tbbeta,

  I have added a button to the "Standard" Tool Bar, but it is only
  text. What I would like to do is add an Icon instead and associate
  it with the action.

  At the present time the "Move to Folder..." does not have an Icon.
  Is there any way I can modify something and get an Icon to associate
  with the action.

  If you go to "Customize/Standard Toolbar/MsgCtl and about 1/3 of the
  way down the list of commands you will see "Move to Folder...". That
  is the command I am wanting to add a icon to.

  Thanks for any help...

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Re[2]: PGP

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, June 9, 2005, 5:48:25 AM, (Internet Time - @491) you wrote:

Hello Stuart,

 SH> I've just received an encrypted message which I was able to open and
SH> read.

SH> I opted to reply to it and was pleasantly surprised to find that TB!
SH> had automagically selected 'Encrypt when Completed'. However, when I
SH> tried to send the message, the 'signing passphrase' dialog came up
SH> twice and then nothing happened.

SH> In the end I used PGP to sign and encrypt the message manually.

SH> Can anyone confirm this behaviour with PGP9?

Hmmm I got a completely different action when I tried to Encrypt this
message and send it to myself.

I was going to just forward the message to another account that I have
a key to, but when I checked the "Encrypt when completed" and hit the
Send button, nothing happened. I pressed the send button several
times, but no luck.

I ended up unchecking the "Encrypt when complete" and clicked on the
"Sign when complete" and everything worked as it should. No extra
'signing passphrase', just the normal one time confirmation passphrase
dialog. (I have my passphrase cached for the session).

But as I said, I could not Encrypt the message at all...

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Re[3]: Utilities --> Insert Quick Template

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 6:58:01 PM, (Internet Time - @040) you wrote:

Hello Richard,

RN>   If I could figure out where the menus to customize are. I know how
RN>   to open customization but then I tend to get lost on where things
RN>   are within the structure to customize. I doubt that I am alone on
RN>   that score.

I agree. It is very confusing. But I did get my Standard Tool bar
fixed the way I wanted to. It was just a hunt and guess type of thing.
I did figure out that if I right click on a Tool Bar, it will tell
you which ones are shown and they correspond to the ones in the
Customizing Menu.

But as you said, that Customizing Menu has a long list of Tool bars
and I have no idea where they are located.

Hope this helps a little...


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Re[2]: PGP

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 11:22:34 AM, (Internet Time - @724) you wrote:

Hello Tony,

TB> I'll tell you the secret. The Bat reads C:\Documents and
TB> Settings\user\Application Data\PGP
TB> Corporation\PGP\PGPprefs.txt so that it
TB> knows where your keys are.

TB> PGP9 uses PGPprefs.xml. What you need to do is take the path to your keys
TB> from the xml file and save it to the same folder as PGPprefs.txt.

TB> Mine looks like this, each to it's own line:

TB> PublicKeyringFile="C:\Documents and Settings\Tony\My
TB> Documents\PGP\pubring.pkr"
TB> PrivateKeyringFile="C:\Documents and Settings\Tony\My Documents\PGP
TB> \secring.skr"

TB> Look in the xml file, copy the two keyring path lines into notepad and save
TB> it as PGPprefs.txt into the same folder.

TB> All RIT need to do to the pgp.dll is to modify it to look for an xml file
TB> as well as a txt file.

TB> Let me know how you get on?

Thanks Tony,

I just did as you said and it works like a charm.

Thanks for the info...

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Re[2]: Lost Ticker

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 9:34:50 AM, (Internet Time - @649) you wrote:

Hello Stuart,

SH> Indeed. See attached. FWIW, there is now aging configured and there
SH> are folders selected.

Attached is my Ticker setup and the only differences I see is the Font
and open new message viewer in the operation and a couple of check
boxes.

Don't know if that makes a difference.

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Re[2]: BayesIt or Bayes Filter?

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 4:18:41 AM, (Internet Time - @429) you wrote:

Hello Graham,

FG> I find this thread really interesting, because BayesIT was so buggy in
FG> earlier releases that it drove me (an many others) to the Bayes
FG> Filter.

FG> IMHO, Bayes Filter is FAR faster and more stable than BayesIT ever was
FG> for me. The plugin issue in the last beta series has been resolved in
FG> Bayes Filter 2.0.3 so I am back using this, and these are the
FG> metrics (reset stats after installing 2.0.3 earlier this week):-

FG> HamMails:  18191
FG> SpamMails: 4063
FG> detected Ham:  2087 (99.86%)
FG> detected Spam: 94 (93.62%)
FG> FALSE Ham detected:  6
FG> FALSE Spam detected: 3

FG> .. I think this is pretty good. Can other systems do better?

Here's my stats from K9:

Column 1: Since Fri Nov 19 2004  04:56:37 PM (201 days)
Column 2: Since Fri Nov 19 2004  04:56:37 PM (201 days)

Total number of emails processed  24,86924,869
 124/day   124/day
Number of Good emails processed7,402 7,402
  29.76%29.76%
Number of Spam emails processed   17,46717,467
  70.24%70.24%
Percentage of emails that matched whitelist rules  0.00% 0.00%
Percentage of emails that matched blacklist rules  0.00% 0.00%
Number of emails re-classified to Good   148   148
Number of emails re-classified to Spam   126   126
Percent misidentified as Spam (false positives)0.60% 0.60%
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Re[3]: BayesIt or Bayes Filter?

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 8, 2005, 7:01:07 AM, (Internet Time - @542) you wrote:

Hello Mike,

M3> If you are looking for an alternative, a lot of folks that have tried
M3> K9 really like it.  It is very popular with folks on the Gibson
M3> Research forums.  The developer hangs out there and offers great
M3> support.

I have to agree with you on K9. I have been using it with The Bat! for
about a year now and it really does a nice job. Uses very little
memory and works great with all my accounts. I have it set up to
filter all my e-mail accounts before The Bat! filters them. So far it
is setting at about 98.8% with the spam messages.

And the best thing about K9 is it is Freeware! If anyone wants to try
it out, you can find it here:

http://keir.net

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Re[2]: 3.5.26

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, June 7, 2005, 9:11:42 AM, (Internet Time - @633) you wrote:

Hello Tony,

TB> [-] (#0002600) No sound on new IMAP message

TB> That's because it takes so bloody long for an IMAP message to load. I'm
TB> seeing "No message Loaded" again for minutes at a time. It was fine with
TB> 3.5.25.

   I am afraid I have the same problem. Takes for ever to load my
   FastMail messages, and then as Tony said, no sound when messages
   are loaded.

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Re: X-Rogue?

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, June 6, 2005, 5:41:14 AM, (Internet Time - @486) you wrote:

Hello Tony,

 
TB> Hello TBBETA,

TB>   Why don't my photo show?

TB>   I've got %SetHeader("X-Rogue",":tbc:")%- in my templates, it always used
TB>   to work and everyone else' shows OK.

It is funny, sometimes I see your photo and sometimes I don't. I think
when I do see it, it is with the Mulberry client. But I do not see it
now and you are using The Bat!. Weird :)

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Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree)

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 4, 2005, 7:07:33 PM, (Internet Time - @046) you wrote:

Hello Roelof,


RO>   )<)))'>


Sorry about that. Hopefully it is fixed now. Don't know why it would
change after coping and pasting the reply template from my old
address. But again sorry about that...

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Re[2]: IMAP: Messages not expunged

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, June 4, 2005, 2:10:11 AM, (Internet Time - @340) you wrote:

Hello Matt,

MT> Have any of you noticed an improvement with TB and IMAP with FastMail?

I have recently, last night, reset up IMAP Account and am trying it
out now. As far as I can tell it is working pretty good. Much better
than when I used it last year. But that isn't saying much for me, that
is.

I mainly wanted to get the threading working properly with TBBeta so
I could follow the messages better and so far it is working pretty
good, as far as I can tell.

Will let you know with more experimenting.


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Re: Scrollbar problem in Account Tree

[Michael Acklin]

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:58:59 -0500, "Allie Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Hi all,
> 
> Can you all duplicate the following?:
> 
> Setup your account tree so that the scroll-bar isn't required and
> doesn't show up. You may have to collapse accounts to do this.
> 
> Now expand an account or two so that the scroll-bar appears and the full
> folder list isn't in view, taking up more than the space provided in the
> accounts pane. Scroll downwards, and then collapse a lower account so
> that
> what's left may now be displayed in the account tree area.
> 
> I note two things:
> - the folder tree doesn't readjust to fill the space provided
> - the scroll-bar disappears. I have to use the mouse or arrow keys to
> scroll the upper folders back into view.
> 
> -- 
>   -= Allie Martin =-
> The Bat!™ v3.5.25
> System Specs: http://www.landscreek.net/sysspecs.htm
>   -=-=-

Confirmed, got the same indications that you mentioned above.


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Re[2]: Reflections on IMAP & POP3

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, June 3, 2005, 8:02:03 AM, (Internet Time - @584) you wrote:

GF>> Do you want a gmail account, Natasha? It has 1 GB mailbox.

NVP> Fantastic! Yes, please. What do I need to do?

And if anyone wants a gmail account, please let me know also. I
have like 150 invites to give away and have already given them to
all my family and friends.

They keep adding the invites every time I send one out. And to
keep this off-list, just send me a private message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will send you an invite...

BTW they have it all set up with POP3 use and I use The Bat! to
send and receive my Gmail Accounts. So once you have it set up you
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Re: Subject text is jumping

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 12:52:11 AM, (Internet Time - @286) you wrote:

Hello Prezes,

 P> Hello,

P> Subject text is jumping:

P> 1. Create new mail, but not add anything (like recipient, etc).
P> 2. Add any attachement.
P> 3. By TAB go to Subject field - write anything, like "subject".
P> 4. Press TAB (selections goes to attachement) and then TAB -
P> selection goes to messages body, but subject is jumping :-)

P> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4671


Confirmed. Happens in 3.5.25 also...

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Re[2]: 3.5.24 MSI

[Michael Acklin]

Tuesday, May 31, 2005, 4:31:37 PM, (Internet Time - @938) you wrote:

Hello Roelof,

 RO> Hallo Carsten,

RO> On Tue, 31 May 2005 21:58:25 +0200GMT (31-5-2005, 21:58 +0200, where I
RO> live), you wrote:

MM>>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/thebat_home_3-5-24.msi

CM>> I noticed a Startmenu-Group "The Bat E-Mail" in the Autostart-Folder,
CM>> which should not be there.

RO> Confirmed.
RO> It was only present in the WinXP Admin account that I used to install
RO> TB. Not in the XP user account where I use it.

Confirmed here also.

But I was not logged on the machine as the Administrator. Although I
have Admin Rights.

But yes I have the /Startup/The Bat! E-mail Folder added.

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Using The Bat! Version 3.5.24
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Re[2]: 3.5.23

[Michael Acklin]

Monday, May 30, 2005, 2:01:28 PM, (Internet Time - @834) you wrote:

Hello MAU,

 M> Hello Maxim,

>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb3523.rar

M> Seems fine so far :)


Same here, no problems as of yet. Hopefully will be a good one :)



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Re[2]: .17 scrollbar bug

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, May 26, 2005, 2:20:14 PM, (Internet Time - @847) you wrote:

Hello Mary,

MB> Has been reported, but not since the full release of 3.5.

MB> Perhaps the entire scrollbar and "empty lines" part of the UI will get
MB> addressed sometime pretty soon. It must involve more work than some
MB> other parts of the new GUI, since the developers have made no comment
MB> (that I'm aware of) on any of the scrollbar-related issues.

Thanks Mary for the info. As I said, I have missed a LOT between the
time I was on this list before. (About 6 months ago :) ).

I am not complaining about this, just reporting differences I see
between the version I was using and the newest one. And if they are
not working on the new interface (which is really nice), then I can
wait. But I will continue to report anything that I find different.


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Using The Bat! Version 3.5.0.17
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Re: .17 scrollbar bug

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, May 26, 2005, 11:37:40 AM, (Internet Time - @734) you wrote:

Not sure if this has been brought up or not and not sure it is related
to the scrollbar bug, either. I just re-joined the list today, so I
have missed a lot of the conversations.

I downloaded and installed the 3.5.0.17 Pro version yesterday and the
first thing I noticed when reading my messages was that in the folder
with a message opened in the foreground, the Left Arrow (Follow
Previous) will start over from the bottom of the messages. I was used
to this arrow becoming inactive and grey'd out when I got to the top
of the message list.

Not for sure if this is working as intended or if it is broke. But
wanted to report it just in case I was the only one to notice it.

Also will report anything else new when I see it.

Thanks in advance...


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IMAP Bug?

[Michael Acklin]

Ok is it me or a bug?

On my IMAP account I receive an e-mail in my inbox. I read the mail
and it shows on the inbox as being "Read".

I hit the "Delete Message" Icon and it is put in the trash folder, but
it shows in the Trash as being "Unread".

Is this a bug or do I have a setting not properly checked/unchecked.

Just wondering as it happens all the time and I can reproduce it 100%
of the time.

Using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.6 under Windows XP/SP2

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Re: [the_bat] Re: IMAP: Optimum configuration

[Michael Acklin]

Sunday, November 7, 2004, 11:14:19 AM, (Internet Time - @759) you wrote:

Hello Martin,

  
MW> Martin Webster [MW], wrote:

MW>> I've started this thread so those IMAP users who are _not_
MW>> experiencing significant performance problems can share how they've
MW>> set up TB! I think this will be useful for determining optimum
MW>> configurations based on server type, connection etc.

MW> Here's a summary in Excel (18kB). I've not done any analysis but will
MW> start experimenting with my set-up as a result of this exercise.
MW> Thanks for your contributions.



Excellent Martin. I will take a look over the spread sheet here today.
Thanks for this information...

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Re[2]: [the_bat] Plug-in for Free AVG 7?

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, November 6, 2004, 12:59:48 PM, (Internet Time - @833) you wrote:

Hello Greg,

GS> I have several OS operating partitions on this disk with an extended
GS> data partition. I've installed AVG 7 free on 2 partitions. I can say
GS> it AVG 7 comes with TB plug-in because I un-installed AVG 6 Free,
GS> re-booted and installed AVG 7 Free. After starting TB avgbat.bav is
GS> available for anti-virus in TB with version # corresponding to AVG 7
GS> Free. So good to go. I guess I'll find out how this beta 2 works.  :-)

That is good to know, Greg. As if they are supporting TB! With AVG
free version plug-in. As I had mentioned before, I have always had
good luck with AVG, when McAfee would miss viruses. So I have stayed
with it for a few years now.

Again thanks for the info and keep up posted with the beta and TB!

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Re: [the_bat] Plug-in for Free AVG 7?

[Michael Acklin]

Saturday, November 6, 2004, 11:19:01 AM, (Internet Time - @763) you wrote:

Hello Greg,

 GS> Hello TBBETA,

GS> Will the AVG plug-in work with the new free AVG 7?

GS> See
GS> http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/5443/lng/us/tpl/v5 and you
GS> will see free AVG 7 is in beta testing and free AVG 6 will be
GS> discontinued at the end of the year. I thought I'd ask to see if any
GS> anticipated problems.  TIA!


Not for sure about the free version, but AVG 7.0 Plugin works great
for me. It has caught every virus coming in using TB! and placed it in
the Quarantine folder.

Have been using AVG for some time and works like a champ. Again, don't
know about the Free version. Sorry...

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Re: [the_bat] Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, November 5, 2004, 8:26:45 PM, (Internet Time - @143) you wrote:

Hello Allie,

>> I have a strange new entry into "Options / Preferences" called "Anothe
>> Setings" What is this for ?? Are you sure of the spelling of these
>> options  

AM> The spelling is definitely wrong. :)

AM> I'm not sure what they really wish to put there since, even with correct
AM> settings, it doesn't make much sense to me.

AM> It could be meant to be 'Other Settings' or 'Miscellaneous' where the
AM> settings that don't really belong to any of the other categories, would
AM> go.

 I have to agree with you on the spelling. I took it to be "Other
 Settings" but not for sure.

 Also when you select the option, it shows the "Work Days" of the
 week. I am not familiar with German, but do they spell Monday the same
 way as the Americans? This one is spelled "manday".

 But over all I have had very good luck with the IMAP features in this
 release. I do not have the sound problems I had before. I only have
 one filter and it is working as expected.

 I went back and followed the guidelines that others had posted with
 their IMAP settings and I did set it up for "Fast Internet
 Connection".

 So far so good.


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Re: [the_bat] IMAP: Optimum configuration

[Michael Acklin]

Thursday, November 4, 2004, 4:28:17 PM, (Internet Time - @977) you wrote:

Hello Martin,

I hope you don't mind me copy and pasting your setup but here's my
setup.

IMAP Server: Fastmail.fm
Server OS:   Unknow

Network: LAN

TB! version: 3.0.2.4 build 04/11/2004

Automatically connect to server:
At startup [X]
When account is selected [X]
For managing folders [ ]
With any command [ ]
[X] Compress emptied folders automatically
[ ] When inactive, disconnect after [ ] seconds
[X] Retrieve message structures together with message headers
[ ] Compress folders when switching to another folder
[ ] Automatically disconnect after synchronisation
[X] When on-line, refresh folders every [1] minutes
[X] Courier IMAP compatibility mode
[ ] Auto filtering
These I->[ ] When browsing messages, retrieve only message text
Could ->[ ] except messages smaller than [ ] K Bytes
Not Find ->[ ] Use precise counters (needs fast connection)
[X] Check mailbox at start-up
[X] Periodical checking each [5] minutes

[X] Local Outbox

Total messages ~1,250 (largest folder ~1,140 messages)

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Using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush
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Re: [the_bat] Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

[Michael Acklin]

Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 10:49:47 AM, (Internet Time - @742) you wrote:

Hello Clive,

CT> Keith, My two IMAP servers are FastMail and MailSnare, and there's no
CT> doubt that Mailsnare is the slower of the two here using TB but that
CT> might be because its message base is bigger than FastMail's.

CT> However, I don't notice the difference between the two accessing them
CT> via Mulberry. I don't know where that leaves you though.

 Clive, I too use Fastmail as my IMAP account. I have very few
 problems with the account and I am trying to learn as much as I can
 about the IMAP protocol.

 I too do not have many messages on the Fastmail account, roughly 1200
 messages, and have only been using it for a few weeks.

 But as I said, I am trying to learn from you, Keith, Martin, Alley
 and all the rest that are posting information on the use of IMAP.

 Thanks...


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