F2 sends messages
Hello all, I experienced something that I would describe as weired: I created a new message, clicked put into outbox and the message was stored in the outbox. Then I pressed F2 to get new mail and the message in the outbox was sent. The massage was not parked in outbox but nevertheless I wouldn't expect a message to be sent when the command Get new mail is triggered. Should The Bat! behave like that? -- Best regards, mse Using The Bat! v4.2.10.1 with German language file [4.2.x_de – Rev. 2009-07-26] Operating system: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F2 sends messages
Hello all, Sunday, August 16, 2009, mse wrote: I experienced something that I would describe as weired: I created a new message, clicked put into outbox and the message was stored in the outbox. Then I pressed F2 to get new mail and the message in the outbox was sent. The massage was not parked in outbox but nevertheless I wouldn't expect a message to be sent when the command Get new mail is triggered. Should The Bat! behave like that? do You have Combined delivery option enabled in Account properties, transport section? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.10.1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.1.2 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F2 sends messages
Hello Marek, Hello all, Sunday, August 16, 2009, mse wrote: I experienced something that I would describe as weired: I created a new message, clicked put into outbox and the message was stored in the outbox. Then I pressed F2 to get new mail and the message in the outbox was sent. The massage was not parked in outbox but nevertheless I wouldn't expect a message to be sent when the command Get new mail is triggered. Should The Bat! behave like that? do You have Combined delivery option enabled in Account properties, transport section? Ah, that's the clue... Thanks a lot. -- Best regards, mse Using The Bat! v4.2.10.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: F2 sends messages
Hello Zygmunt, On Sunday, August 16, 2009, at 21:54:45 [UTC+0200] (Sunday, August 16, 2009 21:54 my local time) mse wrote: I created a new message, clicked put into outbox and the message was stored in the outbox. Then I pressed F2 to get new mail and the message in the outbox was sent. Please check the status of Combined delivery (send+receive) option in the Account properties / Transport. Yep, that did it! It was turned on in only one of my five accounts, that's why it worked as expected so often... Thanks! -- Best regards, mse Using The Bat! v4.2.10.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello vitalie, Ritlabs and others might argue that 'Get new mail' is something that users might wish to do at *any* time and therefore it should have a 'Global' shortcut which takes preference over any local shortcuts!!! If you don't agree with this then you can cancel the global shortcut and *then* use it for anything you like can't speak for anybody else, but i'd rather still focus your discussions on the *sending* feature which MAY be configured differently for different accounts and the customizer which is *global* on a per window type basis. meaning, if you've customized your EDITOR window to allow immediate sending only, then you'll have immediate sending for ANY editor window, regardless of any specific account settings. Clear. And I think, it is good, there must be some rules. Vitalie, if I see well, you are the voice of RL now. Just please tell the guys to find a way to explain the user what that many hieroglyph means in the customizer. Example: All actions, Mailer form, Hidden... An average user does not know what it means... Maybe, there should be a TMemo under the Actions, and when the user clicks on any item in the action, that would explain the item to him/her. Also, the current view of that window is: Containers, Actions, Layout. It should be: Containers, Layout, Actions. Why: I can select e.g. the Main menu (container) and should see the layout BESIDE it. Now there is this constant 'actions' TTreeview between the two... I think, it is illogical... But in any circumstances: when a user clicks on any item in the 'actions', that hieroglyph (item) should be explained to him/her MUCH better. Someone said, I am just talking. Give me some days and I make a draft DOC file about the customizer, that will be open source, so anyone can add stuff to it (e.g. I did not know about what Shift can do in that window.), so we have a manual, how to use it... -- Vili Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello Shirshin, On Monday, May 8, 2006, 10:27:23 PM, among other things, you wrote: str Even by default, F2 does NOT check new mail while in Message Editor. str It sends the message immediately. Confirmed. We got our wires somewhat crossed!! No matter what one tries to remove this action of F2 from the message editor, nothing changes the action. In the process of experimenting I removed 'Move to outbox' from the 'Message' menu and nothing I do will put it back; it will only go back as a separate menu in the menu bar. -- Best regards, Roger Using The Bat!, version 3.80.03 Home, with , on Windows XP Pro, version 5.1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[8]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello Paul, Tuesday, May 9, 2006, 12:49:02 AM, you wrote: str Pressing F2 in Message Editor _never_ invoked receiving mail, but str saved a message to the Outbox. I should have been more clear. I meant to say that [F2] is the hotkey for immediate send, not for receiving mail as it does do when the message editor is not in focus. However, you are only half right as [F2] has been the hotkey for immediate send at least since version 2. To my knowledge the default was never to queue a message in the Outbox. Oh, looks like I understand now. In earlier versions, this WAS the hotkey for immediate sending, but it respected the account's Delivery Type setting (and if that was set to Deferred, the message was just saved). This setting is not taken into account anymore, so F2 always sends immediately. Maybe this is even a bug? As for me, immediate sending should still respect the account's Delivery type. -- Best regards, shirshinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[9]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
5/9/2006 7:19 AM Hi shirshin, On 5/9/2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: str Maybe this is even a bug? As for me, immediate sending should still str respect the account's Delivery type. This is accomplished by [Shift]+[F2]. Seems purposeful and not buggy to me. 8-} -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.72.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[6]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello Paul, Sunday, May 7, 2006, 3:22:20 PM, you wrote: 5/7/2006 7:17 AM Hi shirshin, On 5/7/2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: str While never giving user the ability to modify basic hotkeys, you str shouldn't break them in new releases. It has been [F2] for get mail for current account, [Shift]+[F2] to queue in Outbox and [Alt]+[F2] to send immediately for several years.I can't recall version 1 anymore but it worked as above in version 2. Pressing F2 in Message Editor _never_ invoked receiving mail, but saved a message to the Outbox. -- Best regards, shirshinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello Roger, Sunday, May 7, 2006, 6:28:54 PM, you wrote: str Obviously it doesn't, since immediate sending (in the Message Editor) str has nothing to do with getting new mail, and using the 'hack' of str tbuser.def it is still possible to redefine F2. The only problem is str that cannot be done with the Customizer GUI. Ritlabs and others might argue that 'Get new mail' is something that users might wish to do at *any* time and therefore it should have a 'Global' shortcut which takes preference over any local shortcuts!!! If you don't agree with this then you can cancel the global shortcut and *then* use it for anything you like Even by default, F2 does NOT check new mail while in Message Editor. It sends the message immediately. -- Best regards, shirshinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[7]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
5/8/2006 4:44 PM Hi shirshin, On 5/8/2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: str Pressing F2 in Message Editor _never_ invoked receiving mail, but str saved a message to the Outbox. I should have been more clear. I meant to say that [F2] is the hotkey for immediate send, not for receiving mail as it does do when the message editor is not in focus. However, you are only half right as [F2] has been the hotkey for immediate send at least since version 2. To my knowledge the default was never to queue a message in the Outbox. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.72.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello Paul, Saturday, May 6, 2006, 5:00:52 PM, you wrote: Most programs I have used over the past 20 years have had system hot-keys that could not be tampered with. Ritlabs certainly has this privilege also. As a database application developer for the past 17 years, I would never give the user the ability to modify basic hot-keys. This is true, however in earlier TB versions F2 _was_ a hotkey to save the email in Outbox without sending it immediately. As you know, earlier versions didn't have Customizer, and I was using this hotkey (F2 to put to Outbox) for years, until it was broken with the addition of Customizer. While never giving user the ability to modify basic hotkeys, you shouldn't break them in new releases. -- Best regards, shirshinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
5/7/2006 7:17 AM Hi shirshin, On 5/7/2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: str While never giving user the ability to modify basic hotkeys, you str shouldn't break them in new releases. It has been [F2] for get mail for current account, [Shift]+[F2] to queue in Outbox and [Alt]+[F2] to send immediately for several years.I can't recall version 1 anymore but it worked as above in version 2. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.72.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello shirshin, On Saturday, May 6, 2006, 10:14:37 PM, among other things, you wrote: F2 is of course used for 'Get new mail' in the Account menu, perhaps it is therefore 'reserved' by TB for that purpose only. str Obviously it doesn't, since immediate sending (in the Message Editor) str has nothing to do with getting new mail, and using the 'hack' of str tbuser.def it is still possible to redefine F2. The only problem is str that cannot be done with the Customizer GUI. Ritlabs and others might argue that 'Get new mail' is something that users might wish to do at *any* time and therefore it should have a 'Global' shortcut which takes preference over any local shortcuts!!! If you don't agree with this then you can cancel the global shortcut and *then* use it for anything you like -- Best regards, Roger Using The Bat!, version 3.80.03 Home, with , on Windows XP Pro, version 5.1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Test of F2
Hi All, -- Best regards, Roger Flying with The Bat!, version 3.80.03, with antispam BayesIt! 0.8.4, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello shirshin, On Friday, May 5, 2006, 7:52:01 PM, among other things, you wrote: str In the new Customizer, I have not found a way to assign F2 as a str shortcut to Put message in the outbox action (in the Message str Editor). Even if I assign F2 to this action using the new str Customizer, pressing F2 invokes immediate sending instead (try it str yourself, you'll get the same result). Confirmed here. Why not use the default shortcut 'Shift + F2', it's not really much more effort? Or click on the appropriate button? However, I agree that one should be able to customise as one likes, if of course it does not cause a conflict. Perhaps that is the problem with F2, but I cannot see it being used anywhere. -- Best regards, Roger Using The Bat!, version 3.80.03 Home, with , on Windows XP Pro, version 5.1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello Shirshin, Saturday, May 6, 2006, 8:24:07 AM, I wrote: RP Hello shirshin, RP On Friday, May 5, 2006, 7:52:01 PM, among other things, you wrote: str In the new Customizer, I have not found a way to assign F2 as a str shortcut to Put message in the outbox action (in the Message str Editor). Even if I assign F2 to this action using the new str Customizer, pressing F2 invokes immediate sending instead (try it str yourself, you'll get the same result). RP Confirmed here. Why not use the default shortcut 'Shift + F2', it's not RP really much more effort? Or click on the appropriate button? RP However, I agree that one should be able to customise as one likes, if of RP course it does not cause a conflict. Perhaps that is the problem with F2, RP but I cannot see it being used anywhere. F2 is of course used for 'Get new mail' in the Account menu, perhaps it is therefore 'reserved' by TB for that purpose only. -- With love and best wishes, Elaine and Roger Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello, shirshin, Friday, May 05, 2006, you wrote: str In the new Customizer, I have not found a way to assign F2 as a str shortcut to Put message in the outbox action (in the Message str Editor). Even if I assign F2 to this action using the new str Customizer, pressing F2 invokes immediate sending instead (try it str yourself, you'll get the same result). Cannot confirm. Works fine here. str However, in 3.80.03 this cannot be done using the graphical str interface; moreover, it would be impossible to find this solution str unless I had a backup of my old tbuser.def. I think first you have to unregister default F2 shortcut for Get new mail and only then assign it where you like. I just did it for Mark as unread. I agree that it is unclear what shortcuts already used by default, TB! needs some interface to display a list of already registered shortcuts with the ability to remove or reassign them from that interface (kind of old style) or simple Follow link that will open corresponding Customizer entry. Also a notify like This shortcut is being used by blah blah. Reassign? would be handy. With best regards. - TB! v.3.72.12 (Beta) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 v.5.1.2600, up 12h 51m 13s - BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyMacros 1.10, TBPajsMacro v.0.6.5.10 -- Konstantin Zhilenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]| ICQ: 7212604 | http://onyx.kiev.ua Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello Roger, Saturday, May 6, 2006, 10:24:07 AM, you wrote: str In the new Customizer, I have not found a way to assign F2 as a str shortcut to Put message in the outbox action (in the Message str Editor). Even if I assign F2 to this action using the new str Customizer, pressing F2 invokes immediate sending instead (try it str yourself, you'll get the same result). Confirmed here. Why not use the default shortcut 'Shift + F2', it's not really much more effort? Or click on the appropriate button? I am a long-time TB! user, and got used to this hotkey in recent years. The goal of Customizer is to allow maximum flexibility for users; if one cannot reassign a hotkey, why implement Customizer at all? Not to mention that the whole interface is very unobvious and hardly suitable for average user... I would suggest to provide Customizer as a stand-alone app, for those users who care about flexibility that much. Anyway, the only thing it outputs is a *.def file, so there's no reason to make this a part of TB! itself. If anybody else finds this idea worth discussing, please add your comments. -- Best regards, shirshinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
5/6/2006 8:57 AM Hi Roger, On 5/6/2006 Roger Phillips wrote: RP Confirmed here. Why not use the default shortcut 'Shift + F2', it's not RP really much more effort? Or click on the appropriate button? RP F2 is of course used for 'Get new mail' in the Account menu, perhaps it is RP therefore 'reserved' by TB for that purpose only. Most programs I have used over the past 20 years have had system hot-keys that could not be tampered with. Ritlabs certainly has this privilege also. As a database application developer for the past 17 years, I would never give the user the ability to modify basic hot-keys. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.72.03 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Opera 8.5 Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello Roger, Saturday, May 6, 2006, 10:50:50 AM, you wrote: F2 is of course used for 'Get new mail' in the Account menu, perhaps it is therefore 'reserved' by TB for that purpose only. Obviously it doesn't, since immediate sending (in the Message Editor) has nothing to do with getting new mail, and using the 'hack' of tbuser.def it is still possible to redefine F2. The only problem is that cannot be done with the Customizer GUI. -- Best regards, shirshinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.80.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox
Hello tbbeta,
In the new Customizer, I have not found a way to assign F2 as a
shortcut to Put message in the outbox action (in the Message
Editor). Even if I assign F2 to this action using the new
Customizer, pressing F2 invokes immediate sending instead (try it
yourself, you'll get the same result).
After some investigation of my old tbuser.def file (from 3.62.x
version), and comparing it with the new one from 3.80.x, I found the
following way to solve the problem. You have to add this block to
your tbuser.def:
update property layout [MEdit_Shortcuts]
{
select [mEdit].[bSend]
update
shortcut
}
However, in 3.80.03 this cannot be done using the graphical
interface; moreover, it would be impossible to find this solution
unless I had a backup of my old tbuser.def.
Shouldn't this issue be addressed somehow?
--
Best regards,
shirshin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re[7]: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Peter, Thursday, October 27, 2005, 1:41:44 PM, you wrote: FM I have an idea about the crippled IP stack in XP sp2, that refuses to FM let a program open too many connections at the same time... PH AFAIR I incresed that value months ago, but I fail to recall the exact place PH where I did that. Do you have it at your fingertips? No, sorry. I use Linux and Win2000. -- Fabio Kurgan Muzzi Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Alexander, Thursday, October 27, 2005, 7:19:38 PM, you wrote: I have an idea about the crippled IP stack in XP sp2, that refuses to let a program open too many connections at the same time... ASK Only for, erm, half open connections, that is, opening a port and waiting ASK for a response. As soon as there's a reply on that port, its ok. Uhm, ok. So, it seems that this is not the cause. Or maybe yes? We should check the OS version of people who's having this problem. I don't, and I run win2000 to connect to a local pop3 server on which I have 6 accounts, and a remote one with one account. -- Fabio Kurgan Muzzi Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Peter Hampf everyone else, on 26-Okt-2005 at 23:35 you (Peter Hampf) wrote: It is definitely NOT solved. Just the contrary: Almost every time I try to get new mail for all accounts, TB is unable to connect to *at least* 1 account. I don't have the original message from August any more, please excuse if I ask redundant questions. :) How many accounts are you checking? Are these only POP3 accounts? Are you using a local spam filtering proxy like PopFile? A virus scanner that somehow intercepts the mail transfer? I only have two POP3 accounts (used to be 4), but I never ever had a hanging mail download. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Red meat isn't bad for you. Fuzzy green meat is. Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Alexander, I only have two POP3 accounts (used to be 4), but I never ever had a hanging mail download. I have ca. 10. With the two most used ones I get these regularly, when FIRST hit Alt+F2: 10/29/2005, 13:51:51: FETCH - receiving mail messages 10/29/2005, 13:51:51: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 10/29/2005, 13:51:51: FETCH - authenticated (plain) !10/29/2005, 13:51:56: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: TOP 8 0, TOP 9 0) 10/29/2005, 13:51:56: FETCH - 9 messages in the mailbox, 9 new -- Vili The Bat 3.62.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Vili, On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 14:11:08 +0200 GMT (29/10/2005, 19:11 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V !10/29/2005, 13:51:56: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last V commands sent were: TOP 8 0, TOP 9 0) I check 12 accounts regularly. I get this same sometimes at three accounts - and they are all with the same ISP. No problems with accounts at other ISPs. I blame it on the ISP rather than TB. -- Cheers, Thomas. Follow your dream! Unless it's the one where you're at work in your underwear during a fire drill. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.05 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Thomas, V !10/29/2005, 13:51:56: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last V commands sent were: TOP 8 0, TOP 9 0) I check 12 accounts regularly. I get this same sometimes at three accounts - and they are all with the same ISP. No problems with accounts at other ISPs. I blame it on the ISP rather than TB. I have this on my two heaviest used accounts... (Most mails arrives here). What about your accounts? -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Vili, On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:48:02 -0400 GMT (29/10/2005, 22:48 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V I have this on my two heaviest used accounts... (Most mails arrives V here). V What about your accounts? These are my company accounts, so at home they are least important. In the office, I am connected to the LAN and have no problems (but use 3.0.1.33 - checking 7 accounts without this problem). I think most of my mails at home arrive through GMX, this account and the one I use for TBOT and the German MLs. -- Cheers, Thomas. Unkosten verursachen Polizeihunde nicht, denn sie ernaehren sich von Verbrechern. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.05 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hi Peter and list, On Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 13:41:44 GMT +0200 (which was 12:41 where I live) Peter Hampf wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of alt+f2 and unable to connect: FM I have an idea about the crippled IP stack in XP sp2, that refuses to FM let a program open too many connections at the same time... AFAIR I incresed that value months ago, but I fail to recall the exact place where I did that. Do you have it at your fingertips? Hmm - IIRC you have to patch the TCPIP.SYS file, there seems not to be a registry entry or something like that. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.62.01, , and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Peter, Wednesday, October 26, 2005, 11:57:02 PM, you wrote: V Account, Properties, Transfer, Server timeout. Set a larger number. PH that doesn't matter. 2 minutes should be enough, don't you think so? Uhm... do you use Windows XP sp2? I have an idea about the crippled IP stack in XP sp2, that refuses to let a program open too many connections at the same time... -- Fabio Kurgan Muzzi Using The Bat! v3.60.07 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Fabio Muzzi everyone else, on 27-Okt-2005 at 12:22 you (Fabio Muzzi) wrote: I have an idea about the crippled IP stack in XP sp2, that refuses to let a program open too many connections at the same time... Only for, erm, half open connections, that is, opening a port and waiting for a response. As soon as there's a reply on that port, its ok. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) You must become an ignorant man again And see the sun again with an ignorant eye And see it clearly in the idea of it. -- Wallace Stevens Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Peter, PH Sometimes, not always, when I press alt+f2, TB connects and receives mail PH from 3/4 of the accounts. One to five accounts are sitting in the CC and PH after a minute or so TB tells me that it is unable to connect. PH JFTR: It *seems* that this has been solved in 3.60.02! :batbeer: It is definitely NOT solved. Just the contrary: Almost every time I try to get new mail for all accounts, TB is unable to connect to *at least* 1 account. Account, Properties, Transfer, Server timeout. Set a larger number. -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Peter, V Account, Properties, Transfer, Server timeout. Set a larger number. that doesn't matter. 2 minutes should be enough, don't you think so? :(( Yes, that shoud be enough... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.01 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hi Peter, on Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:42:53 +0200GMT (21.08.2005, 13:42 +0200GMT here), you wrote: PH Answering a rather old (21 days) message (Sunday, July 31, 2005, 17:01) PH Sometimes, not always, when I press alt+f2, TB connects and receives mail PH from 3/4 of the accounts. One to five accounts are sitting in the CC and PH after a minute or so TB tells me that it is unable to connect. PH JFTR: It *seems* that this has been solved in 3.60.02! :batbeer: Indeed, it does here too! :)) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.60.02 Forerunner (Beta) :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.60.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2/Shft + f2
Hallo Munango-Keewati, On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:51:27 -0500GMT (1-8-2005, 4:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MK Has anyone succeeded in customizing the F2 shortcut so that it puts a MK new message in the Outbox instead of sending it immediately? I've MK tried, but F2 has a mind of its own now and insists on immediately MK sending. Yes. Start the editor Customise Standard - Put message in outbox - assign F2 Shortcut collection (at the bottom) - Send now - unassign F2 Works as advertised You realize of course that I've got to change it back now, do you? -- Groetjes, Roelof Cleanliness is next to clean-limbed, in the dictionary. The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpgXvlxEsNhB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Peter, On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:58:52 +0200 GMT (31/07/2005, 23:58 +0700 GMT), Peter Meyns wrote: PM This happens here on a dial-up connection, when TB! has to establish PM the internet connection upon alt+F2 herself. I get around this by PM connecting first manually, and then check for all... It doesn't happen here. All accounts wait nicely until the DUN connection has been established, and then start downloading. -- Cheers, Thomas. Stichproben ergaben: Kondome sind oft unsicher. * Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hi Peter, on Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:01:47 +0200GMT (31.07.2005, 17:01 +0200GMT here), you wrote: PH Sometimes, not always, when I press alt+f2, TB connects and receives mail PH from 3/4 of the accounts. One to five accounts are sitting in the CC and PH after a minute or so TB tells me that it is unable to connect. After observing this issue a bit closer, I suspect the reason here to be K9, which is started automatically with The Bat!, but I'm not at all sure. Do you use K9 or any other proxies? -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.51.10 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: F2/Shft + f2
On Monday, August 1, 2005, 3:02:07 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:51:27 -0500GMT (1-8-2005, 4:51 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MK Has anyone succeeded in customizing the F2 shortcut so that it puts a MK new message in the Outbox instead of sending it immediately? I've MK tried, but F2 has a mind of its own now and insists on immediately MK sending. Yes. Start the editor Customise Standard - Put message in outbox - assign F2 Shortcut collection (at the bottom) - Send now - unassign F2 Works as advertised You realize of course that I've got to change it back now, do you? Sorry for the inconvenience, but thanks for the help. I hadn't known about the Shortcut collection (at the bottom of the top field). Thanks again! -- Best, M-K Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. --Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334 (Julian P. Boyd, Ed., 1950). Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hi Peter, on Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:01:47 +0200GMT (31.07.2005, 17:01 +0200GMT here), you wrote: PH Sometimes, not always, when I press alt+f2, TB connects and receives mail PH from 3/4 of the accounts. One to five accounts are sitting in the CC and PH after a minute or so TB tells me that it is unable to connect. When I PH navigate to one of these accounts and press f2, it connects *immediately* PH and receives the mail! Even a second alt+f2 is successful in most of the PH cases. This happens here on a dial-up connection, when TB! has to establish the internet connection upon alt+F2 herself. I get around this by connecting first manually, and then check for all... I admit, this is not wanted behavior... :-( -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.51.10 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195, AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: alt+f2 and unable to connect
Hello Peter Hampf everyone else, on 31-Jul-2005 at 17:01 you (Peter Hampf) wrote: Sometimes, not always, when I press alt+f2, TB connects and receives mail from 3/4 of the accounts. One to five accounts are sitting in the CC and after a minute or so TB tells me that it is unable to connect. This happens here when my DSL router dropped the connection (german DSL-ISP's once every 24h automatic disconnect) and TB is the first to request a WAN connection. The router just isn't fast enough to establish the connection, and the first connection attempt of the first account (whichever that is at that moment) fails. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
F2/Shft + f2
Has anyone succeeded in customizing the F2 shortcut so that it puts a new message in the Outbox instead of sending it immediately? I've tried, but F2 has a mind of its own now and insists on immediately sending. -- Best wishes, M-K Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
F2 sends message
Hello TBBETA, If I create a new message and press F2 while editing (active window) the message is sent. The correct hot key to send is Ctrl+Enter. Anyone confirm? -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 The only way to be sure of catching a train is to miss the one before it. G K CHESTERTON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
On 30-10-2004 Martin wrote msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello TBBETA, If I create a new message and press F2 while editing (active window) the message is sent. The correct hot key to send is Ctrl+Enter. Anyone confirm? Confirmed here! -- Fred Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Hi TBBeta, Hello TBBETA, If I create a new message and press F2 while editing (active window) the message is sent. The correct hot key to send is Ctrl+Enter. Anyone confirm? -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Hi TBBeta, If I create a new message and press F2 while editing (active window) the message is sent. The correct hot key to send is Ctrl+Enter. Anyone confirm? Confirmed :-) -- I'm already gone, Raymund The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Dear Martin, @30-Oct-2004, 16:40 Martin Webster [MW] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: MW If I create a new message and press F2 while editing (active window) MW the message is sent. The correct hot key to send is Ctrl+Enter. Anyone MW confirm? I don't recall it ever doing otherwise. F2 has always sent the current message for me since pre-v1. I know it doesn't say anywhere that it will ... it just always has. Whether or not it should is another matter. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.3 Rush on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpHjnyvIZDcJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
On Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 10:58:32 AM [GMT -0500], Marck D Pearlstone wrote: I don't recall it ever doing otherwise. F2 has always sent the current message for me since pre-v1. I know it doesn't say anywhere that it will ... it just always has. Whether or not it should is another matter. Via the main window, F2 retrieves messages for POP accounts and synchronizes folders for IMAP accounts. To have the same shortcut send messages via the editor is awkward and potentially problematic, especially if you're accustomed to using F2 to sync folders. You may wish to manually sync folders while composing and whammo, the message is sent mid-composition. -- -= Allie =- . Apple (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Hello Marck, I don't recall it ever doing otherwise. F2 has always sent the current message for me since pre-v1. I know it doesn't say anywhere that it will ... it just always has. Whether or not it should is another matter. From TB's HELP: ,- [ Queuing a Message to Send Later ] | If you want to put your messages in the outgoing queue (in | the Outbox) to send them all together at a later time use the F2 key | while in the message editor (make sure that the Immediate delivery | option is not selected in the Account properties). `- -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Hello Martin, If I create a new message and press F2 while editing (active window) the message is sent. See my reply to Marck on mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Hallo Martin, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 16:40:11 +0100GMT (30-10-2004, 17:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MW If I create a new message and press F2 while editing (active window) MW the message is sent. The correct hot key to send is Ctrl+Enter. Anyone MW confirm? Yep, I confirm. Over here that's intended behavior since forever. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: written entirely by and for blondes The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp4lGCZQfs9Y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Marck Pearlstone [MDP], wrote: MW If I create a new message and press F2 while editing (active window) MW the message is sent. The correct hot key to send is Ctrl+Enter. Anyone MW confirm? MDP I don't recall it ever doing otherwise. F2 has always sent the current MDP message for me since pre-v1. I know it doesn't say anywhere that it MDP will ... it just always has. Whether or not it should is another MDP matter. Okay... first time I've noticed this. Probably because I'm using IMAP now and frequently use F2 to syncronise folders. I don't think F2 should be used for very different functions... one essentially sending and the other receiving. If the use of F2 for sending (deferred) is long standing perhaps the IMAP sync function should have a new hot key? -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 If there are obstacles, the shortest line between two points may be a crooked one. BERTOLT BRECHT ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
On Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 1:30:09 PM [GMT -0500], Martin Webster wrote: If the use of F2 for sending (deferred) is long standing perhaps the IMAP sync function should have a new hot key? F2 isn't a hotkey for sync'ing all folders. It's the keyboard shortcut for sync'ing all folders when the main window is in focus. Perhaps, you should create a hotkey for syncing folders. I think it would be the same key as retrieving messages for a POP account. It's in the Preferences/System Hot Keys. -- -= Allie =- . Build a watch in 179 easy steps by C. Forsberg. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Allie Martin [AM], wrote: If the use of F2 for sending (deferred) is long standing perhaps the IMAP sync function should have a new hot key? AM F2 isn't a hotkey for sync'ing all folders. It's the keyboard shortcut AM for sync'ing all folders when the main window is in focus. AM Perhaps, you should create a hotkey for syncing folders. I think it AM would be the same key as retrieving messages for a POP account. It's AM in the Preferences/System Hot Keys. I meant shortcut not hot key... sorry for the confusion. I find that I need to syncronise folders whilst composing a message and inadvertently send an unfinished message. If F2 is a long standing shortcut for sending messages (deferred delivery) then I think an alternative shortcut should be found for sync'ing IMAP folders. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 If there are obstacles, the shortest line between two points may be a crooked one. BERTOLT BRECHT ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
On Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 5:17:13 PM [GMT -0500], Martin Webster wrote: I meant shortcut not hot key... sorry for the confusion. I find that I need to syncronise folders whilst composing a message and inadvertently send an unfinished message. If F2 is a long standing shortcut for sending messages (deferred delivery) then I think an alternative shortcut should be found for sync'ing IMAP folders. If you don't mind losing the ability to edit filenames by hitting F2, then you could make F2 the hotkey for syncing. In this way, you don't stop using a key that's familiar to you, and F2 will not send messages while you're composing them. -- -= Allie =- . Oxymoron: Smart Bomb. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2 sends message
Allie Martin [AM], wrote: If F2 is a long standing shortcut for sending messages (deferred delivery) then I think an alternative shortcut should be found for sync'ing IMAP folders. AM If you don't mind losing the ability to edit filenames by hitting F2, AM then you could make F2 the hotkey for syncing. In this way, you don't AM stop using a key that's familiar to you, and F2 will not send messages AM while you're composing them. I'll probably do that as it's better than using confirm immediate send. However, this seems to be a work around... I think TB! should avoid this confusion. But then again there are only so many keys available. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Yes, in the old days that was so, but we have changed all that. MOLIÈRE, 1622-1673 ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: F2
Hello, 24 Dec 2001, 9:50:56 AM, Peter Hampf wrote: PH collapse all accounts. PH Goto account #3, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #3. PH Goto account #2, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #2. PH Goto account #3, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #2!! PH Reproducable at will here. Can't confirm. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: F2
Hello TBBETA, 24 Dec 2001, 16:50:56, you wrote: PH Hello TBBETA, PH collapse all accounts. PH Goto account #3, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #3. PH Goto account #2, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #2. PH Goto account #3, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #2!! PH Reproducable at will here. Sorry, but *not* confirmed here. All works fine. -- Cheers, Jeroen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Powered by The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 ( Windows NT 5.0.2195Service Pack 2) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: F2
Bonjour Jeroen, Lundi, le 24 décembre 2001 à 17h20 [GMT +0100] (ce qui correspond à 17h20 ici où j'habite), Jeroen =[J] a écrit à Peter Hampf : PH collapse all accounts. PH Goto account #3, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #3. PH Goto account #2, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #2. PH Goto account #3, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #2!! PH Reproducable at will here. J Sorry, but *not* confirmed here. All works fine. ditto for me : *not* confirmed here -- Bien à vous, Alexis Haeringer mailto:ginkyo[arobase]gmx.fr (alias ginkyo) Ma clef PGP : mailto:pgp1[arobase]ginkyo.org Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[4]: Shift+Ctrl+F2
Hello, PH LeftShift+F2 works as intended, LeftCtrl+F2 as well ... but PH LeftShift+LeftCtrl+F2 does NOT work. Very amusing .. not. ST May be LeftShift+LeftCtrl is used as the National keyboard toggle? All key combinations work fine here on the localized German keyboard, which I guess you use too, Peter. -- With best regards, Claudius Regn mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://regn.de/pgp/ Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Shift+Ctrl+F2
Hello List Members, on 28.12.1999 at 11:02, tracer wrote: You may laugh but I once spend an hour before I was told someone dropped water in a keyboard and as it was a linux system nobody could Hey, much better is... Coke! Death for mechanical keyboards - a real mess with capacitive or Hall-effect based keyboards (which, in most cases, could be recovered by washing /w clear water). Remains of various beverage in keyboards are a quite common source of malfunction. I can tell Regards Dieter Hummel Running TheBat! 1.38e on Windows NT v4 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 ...I am the computer your mother warned you about. -- Dieter Hummel FRA/GER 65931EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD93DC23F PGP-Key: send email with 'send public keys' in subject -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Shift+Ctrl+F2
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:49:06 +0100, Dieter Hummel wrote: [] Remains of various beverage in keyboards are a quite common source of malfunction. I can tell ROTFL! -- Ali Martin | Using The Bat! v1.38e mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) [ "I think not," said Descartes, and promptly disappeared. ] -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[5]: Shift+Ctrl+F2
Hello Claudius, on Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:59:15 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote: CR All key combinations work fine here on the localized German keyboard, CR which I guess you use too, Peter. Yes, I do. And I have no idea so far why the left keys are not working. BTW: It's a brand new keyboard, a so called "multi media keyboard" (with additional programmable keys). And no, the non working key combination is not used for anything. I'll check other keyboards tomorrow. -- Regards, Peter Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10. A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: Shift+Ctrl+F2
Hello Stefan, on Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:45:08 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: ST May be LeftShift+LeftCtrl is used as the National keyboard toggle? No, that is LeftCtrl+LeftAlt+F2/F1. (Or AltGr+F2/F1) -- Regards, Peter Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows 98 4.10. A -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[6]: Shift+Ctrl+F2
Hello Peter Hampf, On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:12:32 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, December 29, 1999, 12:12:32 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Peter Hampf wrote: Peter Hello Claudius, Peter on Tue, 28 Dec 1999 12:59:15 +0100 GMT your local time you wrote: CR All key combinations work fine here on the localized German keyboard, CR which I guess you use too, Peter. Peter Yes, I do. And I have no idea so far why the left keys are not Peter working. BTW: It's a brand new keyboard, a so called "multi media Peter keyboard" (with additional programmable keys). And no, the non working Peter key combination is not used for anything. well. can you use the board without using any drivers they may have supplied Just in case those reserve that combo for something else??? Peter I'll check other keyboards tomorrow. thats the other thing to do. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Shift+Ctrl+F2
Hello Dieter Hummel, On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 16:49:06 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, December 28, 1999, 10:49:06 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Dieter Hummel wrote: Dieter Hello List Members, Dieter on 28.12.1999 at 11:02, tracer wrote: You may laugh but I once spend an hour before I was told someone dropped water in a keyboard and as it was a linux system nobody could Dieter Hey, much better is... Coke! Death for mechanical keyboards - a real Dieter mess with capacitive or Hall-effect based keyboards (which, in most Dieter cases, could be recovered by washing /w clear water). Coke is death for about anything, its an excelent cleaner of old copper coins as well, imagine what it does to your stomach! Dieter Remains of various beverage in keyboards are a quite common source of Dieter malfunction. I can tell I know but one doesnt always realise it!! Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194 -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Shift+Ctrl+F2
Hello List Members, on 27.12.1999 at 19:34, Peter Hampf wrote: LeftShift+LeftCtrl+F2 does NOT work. Very amusing .. not. Youcan't blame The Bat for that - on my IBM keyboard (the one you can easily slay s.o. to death) both (left) Shift and Ctrl keys work (they should return the same code also, shouldn't they?). Regards Dieter Hummel Running TheBat! 1.38e on Windows NT v4 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 ...The best things in life are free, but sooner or later the government will find a way to tax them. -- Dieter Hummel FRA/GER 65931EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xD93DC23F PGP-Key: send email with 'send public keys' in subject -- -- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
