Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[MAU]

Hello Boris,

>> You may add your own experience to my BT report at:
>>   https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4069
> 
> Isn't https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3870 the same?

Yes, it certainly is. I guess I missed it.

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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[Boris Anders]

Hello MAU,

Mau wrote (in ):

> You may add your own experience to my BT report at:
>   https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4069

Isn't https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3870 the same?


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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[MAU]

Hello Gonçalo,

M>> I'm not against having a some kind of flag indicating that a message has
M>> a Memo, but I want/need to show/display memos the way I do now.
> 
> How do you see them now? Using the memo column or with the memo window?

Mainly with the Memo column.

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Re[2]: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[Gonçalo Farias]

M> Hello Gonçalo,

>> I  also  confirm  this. I think that instead of showing the memo there
>> should be a flag indicating that the message has a memo.

M> I'm not against having a some kind of flag indicating that a message has
M> a Memo, but I want/need to show/display memos the way I do now.

How do you see them now? Using the memo column or with the memo window?


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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[MAU]

Hello Richard,

> Never reported it before because they are the only memos I use, it's
> only a small folder and no one else has ever reported this problem so I
> thought it was something wrong with my set up.

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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[MAU]

Hello Gonçalo,

> I  also  confirm  this. I think that instead of showing the memo there
> should be a flag indicating that the message has a memo.

I'm not against having a some kind of flag indicating that a message has
a Memo, but I want/need to show/display memos the way I do now.

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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[MAU]

Hello Greg,

>>> Can you confirm this now small bug?
> 
>> Yes. The memo is only shown in the message list once the message with a
>> memo is selected.
> 
> Confirmed!

Thanks to those who have confirmed. I have just opened a BT report at:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4069

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Re[2]: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[Gonçalo Farias]

ASK> Hello MAU & everyone else,

ASK> on 20-Nov-2004 at 20:51 you (MAU) wrote:

>> Can you confirm this now small bug?

ASK> Yes.  The memo is only shown in the message list once the message
ASK> with a memo is selected.


I  also  confirm  this. I think that instead of showing the memo there
should be a flag indicating that the message has a memo.


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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[Greg Strong]

Hello Alexander,

Saturday, November 20, 2004, 5:22:11 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

>> Can you confirm this now small bug?

> Yes. The memo is only shown in the message list once the message with a
> memo is selected.

Confirmed!


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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello MAU & everyone else,

on 20-Nov-2004 at 20:51 you (MAU) wrote:

> Can you confirm this now small bug?

Yes. The memo is only shown in the message list once the message with a
memo is selected.

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Re[2]: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[Richard Wakeford]

Hello MAU,

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 you wrote in 

M> Forget everything I said, false alarm! It is just a minor _display_ bug
M> but memos are _not_ lost. Here is what happens.

I've always had a little problem with memos. I only have one normal
folder with memos for about 60% of the 108 messages in it. Each time I
open the folder the memos display differently. Sometimes they aren't
there at all until I double click somewhere in the folder. Other times
there is just half a memo visible (like the top half or bottom half of
the text), and other times only a few memos will show and I have to
click several times in different places to get them all to show.

Never reported it before because they are the only memos I use, it's
only a small folder and no one else has ever reported this problem so I
thought it was something wrong with my set up.

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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[MAU]

Hello Alexander,

> Maybe you can explain the precise steps to reproduce the problem?
> 
> I just created a memo for a message in a VF. I located the original message
> and the memo was there, too. Then I right-clicked the VF and selected
> "refresh". The memo was still there, both in the VF and the original
> message.

It was a false alarm. Se the reply I've just sent to myself in
 :)

Anyway, I had forgot to mention that I was displaying Memo as a column
on the messages pane and there is where the (now small) problem occurs.

Can you confirm this now small bug?

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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> But what I didn't know or expect was that the Memo field was being saved
> in the TBI file of the _VF_ folder and _not_ in the TBI file of the
> message's original folder. So, as soon a VF is refreshed manually or
> automatically, all Memos are Lost!!! :-(

Forget everything I said, false alarm! It is just a minor _display_ bug
but memos are _not_ lost. Here is what happens.

When VF is refreshed or you move to another folder and then move to the
VF, the messages pane does not display memos until it gets the focus (i.e
a message is selected in the pane). See attached PNGs, 1 is after a
refresh or after just moving to the VF and 2 is after selecting a
message.

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Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello MAU & everyone else,

on 20-Nov-2004 at 19:56 you (MAU) wrote:

> But what I didn't know or expect was that the Memo field was being saved
> in the TBI file of the _VF_ folder and _not_ in the TBI file of the
> message's original folder. So, as soon a VF is refreshed manually or
> automatically, all Memos are Lost!!! :-(

Maybe you can explain the precise steps to reproduce the problem?

I just created a memo for a message in a VF. I located the original message
and the memo was there, too. Then I right-clicked the VF and selected
"refresh". The memo was still there, both in the VF and the original
message.

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Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!

[MAU]

Hello all,

I am aware, and I think most of you too, that Memo field for messages
are stored in TBI file and not as part of the message in TBB file. It is
not the best but it works and the only risk (that I know of) is if for
some reason you delete the TBI file for a folder, then all memos are
lost. Moving the message to another folder moves the Memo also, etc.

But here is something I found out today the "hard way". I use a number
of VFs to organise my pending issues (actions, replies, etc.) and to
make it a little easier for me to follow up I decided to include some
comments (like the action to carry) in the Memo field. Everything seemed
so great after about one hour of work!

But what I didn't know or expect was that the Memo field was being saved
in the TBI file of the _VF_ folder and _not_ in the TBI file of the
message's original folder. So, as soon a VF is refreshed manually or
automatically, all Memos are Lost!!! :-(

I must consider this a bug because any other action done to a message in
a VF is actually done in the original folder of the message (i.e.
flagging, colour groups, etc.).

If anyone can confirm I will open a BT report.

TIA.

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