Re[2]: [the_bat] Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
lunes, 1 nov 2004 at 04:32, it seems you wrote:
NFS = New File System
OFS = Old File System
;-)
NFS = New FilTER System
OFS = Old FilTER System
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Re[3]: [the_bat] Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Monday, November 1, 2004, 7:13:17 AM, (Internet Time - @592) you wrote: Hello NetVicious, N lunes, 1 nov 2004 at 04:32, it seems you wrote: NFS = New File System OFS = Old File System N ;-) N NFS = New FilTER System N OFS = Old FilTER System Yes, I saw that after I hit the send button. Sorry for the mistake. I think I had just washed my hands and wasn't able to do anything with them. :D -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:41:50 +0700 GMT (31/10/2004, 10:41 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: MP Since the coming of NFS it takes ± 1 minute... :-( TF While your problem is not as sever as mine, I would consider a minute TF unacceptable too. Let me create that BT entry, I'll post the URL here. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4000 -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. - Bill Cosby Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
On Sunday, October 31, 2004, at 6:52:32 PM, Mark wrote: I have a filter with some 230 conditions. I did not have any problems opening/changing them with the OFS. Since the coming of NFS it takes ± 1 minute... Excuse my ignorance, but what is NFS and OFS? I couldn't fine mention of either in the Help File? -- -=Nick Andriash=- -=Creston, B.C. Canada=- The Bat! Pro v3.0.2.4 Rush on Win XP Pro Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [the_bat] Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Sunday, October 31, 2004, 8:54:04 PM, (Internet Time - @162) you wrote: Hello Nick, NA On Sunday, October 31, 2004, at 6:52:32 PM, Mark wrote: I have a filter with some 230 conditions. I did not have any problems opening/changing them with the OFS. Since the coming of NFS it takes ± 1 minute... NA Excuse my ignorance, but what is NFS and OFS? I couldn't fine mention of NA either in the Help File? NFS = New File System OFS = Old File System -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello Thomas, Did I understand you right: Your filters match on is in addressbook, and adding addresses to the AB is fairly fast? Yes, that's right. I use Address groups contain... If so, I will try that workaround for the one or two major filters. I don't think I will create 73 AB groups and redo all my filters... You can temporarily add a Capture address action to your filters to automatically build up your AB Groups. Can you confirm the delay of opening filters and adding new conditions when the number of conditions increase? With a confirmation, I can open a bug report. I haven't tested this yet. I will let you know if I do. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello MAU, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 13:35:07 +0200 GMT (30/10/2004, 18:35 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: don't think I will create 73 AB groups and redo all my filters... M You can temporarily add a Capture address action to your filters to M automatically build up your AB Groups. Thanks, I will try that. Can you confirm the delay of opening filters and adding new conditions when the number of conditions increase? With a confirmation, I can open a bug report. M I haven't tested this yet. I will let you know if I do. Please do. I consider your suggestion a viable work-around, but I would like to use the filters straight forward, as I used to. -- Cheers, Thomas. 38 Prozent aller Studentinnen sind weiblich. * Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello Thomas, M I haven't tested this yet. I will let you know if I do. Please do. I consider your suggestion a viable work-around, but I would like to use the filters straight forward, as I used to. OK, I've created a new filter with some 80 OR conditions and yes, it takes some 6-7 seconds to open. However, adding a new condition is immediate in my case. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello MAU, On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:05:13 +0200 GMT (31/10/2004, 01:05 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M OK, I've created a new filter with some 80 OR conditions and yes, it M takes some 6-7 seconds to open. However, adding a new condition is M immediate in my case. Thanks for your test. You are not confirming what I see, though. Hm. -- Cheers, Thomas. Laughing stock: cattle with a sense of humor. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello MAU, Saturday, October 30, 2004, 8:05:13 PM, you wrote: M OK, I've created a new filter with some 80 OR conditions and yes, it M takes some 6-7 seconds to open. However, adding a new condition is M immediate in my case. I have a filter with some 230 conditions. I did not have any problems opening/changing them with the OFS. Since the coming of NFS it takes ± 1 minute... :-( -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 16:40:42) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello Mark, On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 02:30:08 +0200 GMT (31/10/2004, 07:30 +0700 GMT), Mark Partous wrote: MP I have a filter with some 230 conditions. I did not have any problems MP opening/changing them with the OFS. MP Since the coming of NFS it takes ± 1 minute... :-( While your problem is not as sever as mine, I would consider a minute unacceptable too. Let me create that BT entry, I'll post the URL here. -- Cheers, Thomas. Atmen Sie bewusster: Jeweils zehn Minuten lang einatmen, Luft anhalten und ausatmen. Das ermuedet rasch. * Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
This is a forwarded message From: Thomas Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, October 29, 2004, 10:58:41 PM Subject: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions ===8==Original message text=== Hello TBBETA, I didn't get a reply on TBUDL, so I'll try here. The problem is consisting, and maybe someone over here is willing to create multiple filter conditions to test. This is the message: Quote At work, I use TB 3.0.1.33 under Win XP Pro SP2 with 512M RAM. Not sure about the processor speed, but it's a usually pretty fast computer. In the main account, I have 73 Incoming filters. Some have only one condition, others more. The more conditions a filter has, the slower it gets to open the particular filter, and even slower to add more conditions. All conditions are OR and on Header: Contains and Action: Move to folder X. When I open the filter with 45 OR conditions, it already opens very slow. Today I opened the filter with 56 conditions, as I had to add another one. Opening already took many seconds. But adding the new one took several minutes! Here are the details: 1.) Click on the filter (takes several seconds for the filter to display the many conditions, see above). 2.) Click on Add and chose the kind, such as OR, that goes pretty fast. 3.) Click on Sender (in order to choose Header) and this took minutes. Literally. I opened Windows task manager and saw TB's CPU usage in the high nineties while the rest of the computer (including the usually-flapping bat icon) froze. 4.) After a while (2 minutes or so) the CPU usage went down to zero, everything went back to normal, and I could add the email address. The filtering itself works fine. I didn't have this problem with TB 2.12. I also don't notice a slow-down when opening filters with just a few conditions, but from 10 or 20 upwards, it's noticable. With 45 still tolerable, if you really love TB. With 56 conditions, the opening time alone is already intolerable, forget about adding conditions. Reliably reproducible. Can anybody confirm? NB: I know my number of filters and conditions is unusually high, but shouldn't TB v3 be able to handle it as gracefully as v2.12 did? At least you get a clue why I said in the beta phase that filtering is crucial to me, I couldn't handle over 300 messages day without TB's superior filtering system. But adding a new email address to a filter taking minutes just takes the fun out of it. /Unquote -- TIA, Thomas. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html ===8===End of original message text=== -- Best regards, Thomasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello Thomas, snipped quite a bit NB: I know my number of filters and conditions is unusually high, but shouldn't TB v3 be able to handle it as gracefully as v2.12 did? At least you get a clue why I said in the beta phase that filtering is crucial to me, I couldn't handle over 300 messages day without TB's superior filtering system. But adding a new email address to a filter taking minutes just takes the fun out of it. I must admit it looks like quite a slow process. Anyway, as a workaround if you are filtering on umpteen email addresses with umpteen OR conditions (as you seem to say), I would suggest using special AB/Groups for that. I think it is a bit more elegant and easier to manage solution. I have 3 groups for this purpose, one with over 2000 addresses. I just can't imagine how long would it take me to open a filter if I had done over 2000 ORed conditions :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.2 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions
Hello MAU, On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:02:17 +0200 GMT (30/10/2004, 00:02 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M I must admit it looks like quite a slow process. Anyway, as a workaround M if you are filtering on umpteen email addresses with umpteen OR M conditions (as you seem to say), Correct. M I would suggest using special AB/Groups for that. I think it is a M bit more elegant and easier to manage solution. I have 3 groups M for this purpose, one with over 2000 addresses. I just can't M imagine how long would it take me to open a filter if I had done M over 2000 ORed conditions :) Did I understand you right: Your filters match on is in addressbook, and adding addresses to the AB is fairly fast? If so, I will try that workaround for the one or two major filters. I don't think I will create 73 AB groups and redo all my filters... Can you confirm the delay of opening filters and adding new conditions when the number of conditions increase? With a confirmation, I can open a bug report. -- Cheers, Thomas. Early to rise and early to bed, makes a man healthy but socially dead. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
