Re: Possible to Disable Security question ?

2002-01-15 Thread Alastair Scott

On 15 January 2002 at 8:17 am Thomas wrote:

 I agree to every word of this paragraph, including the last two. If
 you ask  me, they should fix the known bugs (it's a very long list by
 now), release 1.54, then overhaul the interface, release it as next
 version or as 1.54a, and then start playing with new features.
 Half-implemented things klike the SmartPad should be taken out first,
 as it will cost time and effort to iron out those bugs for the new
 features, and 1.54 doesn't really need them. The new features are good
 (I love especially the msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] linking), but if
 they are buggy, they should be delayed until the next beta series.

 Fix the old bugs first, is my mantra. ;-)

Clearly there is disquiet among the beta testers :)

I've agreed to do the takes ages and is very boring run through this
weekend then produce a sort of über-bug report on all the
inconsistencies in the (existing) interface.

(There are a lot - as well as the problems noted with confirmation, or
lack of confirmation, there are many instances where controls,
particularly menu items, should be greyed out but are not).

Alastair


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Re: Possible to Disable Security question ?

2002-01-14 Thread Anton I. Danilov

 Hi !

 Using Beta 28 I created a new shortcut for marking
 all messages read. The only unnecessary thing left
 over is the box popping up asking Do you really want...

 This is useless for me handling 30+ Folders.

 Is it possible to shut the feature down ?

In a good program, especially such as a mail client, every notorious
question (simply put - every) should be carrying don't ask this
again ckeckbox. Look at OE, for example, they realize that, and they
are Microsoft!

By the way, OE interface looks much smoother and cleaner than The
Bat!'s.

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Re: Possible to Disable Security question ?

2002-01-14 Thread Alastair Scott

On 14 January 2002 at 17:24 Anton wrote:

 In a good program, especially such as a mail client, every notorious
 question (simply put - every) should be carrying don't ask this
 again ckeckbox. Look at OE, for example, they realize that, and they
 are Microsoft!

 By the way, OE interface looks much smoother and cleaner than The
 Bat!'s.

In a good program has an ... interesting implication ;)

I agree, though; I hope that this sort of thing is coming up in
version 2. Apart from that issue (warn once, then turn off if needed)
there are some gross inconsistencies with warning and information
popups. My favourite is Options | Preferences | Applications; the
Associate ... button has no yes, I've done it popup but the ...
Simple MAPI ... button below it has a yes, I've done it popup.

Getting rid of this sort of inconsistency really requires someone to
spend a long time going through the program systematically testing
every control; it takes ages and is very boring ... but necessary.

OE looks and feels better because Microsoft has graphics artists and
user interface designers everywhere and _pours_ money into usability
testing. In addition, it controls the user interface standards so can
always deem what's right with everyone rushing to catch up.

Alastair


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Re[2]: Possible to Disable Security question ?

2002-01-14 Thread Anton I. Danilov

 On 14 January 2002 at 17:24 Anton wrote:

 In a good program, especially such as a mail client, every notorious
 question (simply put - every) should be carrying don't ask this
 again ckeckbox. Look at OE, for example, they realize that, and they
 are Microsoft!

 By the way, OE interface looks much smoother and cleaner than The
 Bat!'s.

 In a good program has an ... interesting implication ;)

Why so? There are GOOD programs, and there are BAD programs :-)

 I agree, though; I hope that this sort of thing is coming up in
 version 2. Apart from that issue (warn once, then turn off if needed)
 there are some gross inconsistencies with warning and information
 popups. My favourite is Options | Preferences | Applications; the
 Associate ... button has no yes, I've done it popup but the ...
 Simple MAPI ... button below it has a yes, I've done it popup.

 Getting rid of this sort of inconsistency really requires someone to
 spend a long time going through the program systematically testing
 every control; it takes ages and is very boring ... but necessary.

It takes much less time to project everything beforehand. Look at The
Bat! developers. They are fixing numerous bugs which came from their
projection mistaker. For example, there was a bug that message list
settings were automatically saved in main window and were not saved in
a separate window. If they'll invent some new message list somewhere -
there'll be bugs and bugs again. They'll have to check everything.
That's only a question of planning and projecting.

 OE looks and feels better because Microsoft has graphics artists and
 user interface designers everywhere and _pours_ money into usability
 testing. In addition, it controls the user interface standards so can
 always deem what's right with everyone rushing to catch up.

Of course. But The Bat!'s usability suffers. Look suffers. It could be
improved, and it should be improved. But it seems to me that
developers think about implementing different notepads, expression
calculations, they decided to develop yet another HTML control - a
good time waste, and I'll not be surprised when I'll see clock and mp3
player in TB. I'm dissappointed.

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