Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Monday, July 4, 2005 at 23:15 (which was Tuesday, July 5, 2005 at
6:15 where I am) Bill Mccarthy wrote:

> Each time, I marked the top message read, clicked on the top account
> folder and hit Ctrl+Right. Each of the first five times I landed on
> the SECOND unread message.

That is weird. Since there are too many unread messages in my folders
that I don't want to mark read at this time, I cannot reproduce this
entirely, but I have noticed that there is something weird about the
way TB! handles 'go to next unread' when the currently selected
'folder' is an account name itself.

For instance, I have at the top of my account list, the acounts of
myself and my wife:

HyperCube Maurice
HyperCube Brenda

There are unread messages in both accounts. If I select the account
name and for my wife and hit Ctrl-Right or Ctrl-], TB! goes to the
first unread message of the 'HyperCube Maurice' account instead of
what I expected to happen, the first unread message in 'HyperCube
Brenda'.

This means that in order to get to the unread messages in her account,
I am forced to expand her account and select at least the top folder
there in order to be able to use Ctrl-Right or Ctrl-].

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 4-Jul-05 2:34pm -0500, Roelof Otten wrote:

> Hallo Bill,
>
> On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:34:37 -0500GMT (4-7-2005, 18:34 +0200, where I
> live), you wrote:

BM>> Finally, when you press Ctrl+Right, you will be
BM>> positioned on message C instead of message B.
BM>>
BM>> Can you confirm that?

> Still can't confirm.

Thanks for trying it again.

I just repeated my test 6 times with a thread that
started of as:

Unread
Unread
Unread
Unread
Unread
Unread
Unread

All other mails in the folder were read, so these were
the only ones visible.  Each time, I marked the top
message read, clicked on the top account folder and hit
Ctrl+Right.  Each of the first five times I landed on
the SECOND unread message.

Of course, on the sixth test, there was only one unread
mail remaining and Ctrl+Right went to it.

This is repeatable every try.

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill,

On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 11:34:37 -0500GMT (4-7-2005, 18:34 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BM> Finally, when you press Ctrl+Right, you will be
BM> positioned on message C instead of message B.

BM> Can you confirm that?

Still can't confirm.

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 4-Jul-05 11:48am -0500, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

> Hello Bill McCarthy & everyone else,
>
> on 04-Jul-2005 at 08:29 you (Bill McCarthy) wrote:
>
>> If I position on message A and then go to the
>> account name in the folder
>> tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me to message C instead of message B.
>
> Are you sure that message B is really unread, and not just part of a
> (collapsed) thread where message C is located, and only message C is
> unread?

Yes, I am sure but you must be in "Only Unread message"
mode to see this.  Please read:

mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Other than that... I don't see CTRL+right being the standard shortcut for
> "move to next unread", its CTRL+ALT+right, I've used that forever since,
> and it does not fail here. *shrug*

That is surprising.  If I look at Customize, I see
three standard ways of doing this:

Ctrl+Alt+Right
Ctrl+Right
Ctrl+]

You must have deleted the other two - or may the fact
that the menu only shows the first one listed has you
confused.

I used to use Ctrl+], but since using a laptop I've
switched to Ctrl+Right - the Right is only three keys
away from Ctrl :-)  I have no idea why you choose to
press an extra key - finger exercise?

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Bill McCarthy & everyone else,

on 04-Jul-2005 at 08:29 you (Bill McCarthy) wrote:

> If I position on message A and then go to the account name in the folder
> tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me to message C instead of message B.

Are you sure that message B is really unread, and not just part of a
(collapsed) thread where message C is located, and only message C is
unread?

Other than that... I don't see CTRL+right being the standard shortcut for
"move to next unread", its CTRL+ALT+right, I've used that forever since,
and it does not fail here. *shrug*

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 4-Jul-05 1:53am -0500, Roelof Otten wrote:

> Hallo Bill,
>
> On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:29:54 -0500GMT (4-7-2005, 8:29 +0200, where I
> live), you wrote:

BM>> I use Ctrl-Right to read mail.  It skips to the next
BM>> unread message in the current folder (or the next
BM>> folder when all messages are marked read in the current
BM>> folder).
BM>>
BM>> It is no longer going to the first unread message.

> Can't confirm.

Thanks for checking, Roelof.

I understand and can see the same behavior with all
messages visible.  When I started this thread, I didn't
realize that the behavior is different with my view
mode - which only shows unread mail.

let's first make sure we are in "(no view mode)".

In your TB! Beta folder, with all messages read, press
Alt+1 then Ctrl+= to be in standard threaded mode with
all messages visible - we should have a common starting
point.

Now find the same structure and mark them unread so you
have, anywhere in a thread:

A - unread
   B - unread
   C - unread

Now do View->Display->Only Unread messages.  Only those
three messages will be visible.

Position on message A, mark it read (Ctrl+M) and then
go to the account name in the folder tree.

Finally, when you press Ctrl+Right, you will be
positioned on message C instead of message B.

Can you confirm that?

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Mon 4-Jul-05 8:17am -0500, Michael Acklin wrote:

> Monday, July 4, 2005, 1:29:54 AM, (Internet Time - @312) you wrote:
>
> Hello Bill,
>
BM>> A - read
BM>>B - unread
BM>>C - unread
BM>>
BM>> If I position on message A and then go to the account
BM>> name in the folder tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me
BM>> to message C instead of message B.
>
>I tried this also, but what I got was the message A being
>highlighted. Not the message C.
>
>Sorry can't confirm either.

You have a far more serious problem.  Since message A
has been marked read, you should NEVER get to it with
ctrl-right.  Perhaps you have reassigned ctrl-right?

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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-04 Thread Michael Acklin
Monday, July 4, 2005, 1:29:54 AM, (Internet Time - @312) you wrote:

Hello Bill,

BM> A - read
BM>B - unread
BM>C - unread

BM> If I position on message A and then go to the account
BM> name in the folder tree, pressing ctrl-right brings me
BM> to message C instead of message B.

   I tried this also, but what I got was the message A being
   highlighted. Not the message C.

   Sorry can't confirm either.


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Re: 36: Failure of Ctrl-Right (reading unread messages)

2005-07-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Bill,

On Mon, 4 Jul 2005 01:29:54 -0500GMT (4-7-2005, 8:29 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

BM> I use Ctrl-Right to read mail.  It skips to the next
BM> unread message in the current folder (or the next
BM> folder when all messages are marked read in the current
BM> folder).

BM> It is no longer going to the first unread message.

Can't confirm.

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