Re: Kill dupes (was Re: Bug in displaying photos from AB)

[Richard Anders]

Hello Graham,

Monday, July 5, 2004, 12:50 you wrote at 
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> 1. Improvement of "kill duplicates: If you could select which fields
>> TheBat! should compare
> There is (or at least was!) 2 command line arguments which were used
> to specify the fields used in a dedup
Thanks for that hint.

> a search of the archive for posts from me containing
> /DEDUPIGNORETOMSGID (which is the option I still use).. should find
> what the other (alternative) command line option was.
Respect. Found it.

/DEDUPIGNORETOMSGID was the other. But what, if I just want to compare
the message ID? But until TheBat! doesn't show me the duplicates before
deleting, I'll never use this feature (the risk is too high for me -
and I've enough free space :).

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Re: Kill dupes

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Allie,

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 11:43:46 -0500 GMT (24/02/2004, 23:43 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:

 >> Can nobody else confirm this? Send a message to yourself, put your own
 >> address into both the CC and the BCC. See how the messages is
 >> downloaded again and again at each mailcheck.

> What do you mean here? That there's always a copy on the server with
> each check?

I always leave copies on the server for 7 days. When I send messages
from my office (I am talking about my private account), I BCC to
myself, so I can download it at home. Some message where I reply to
all, already have my address in the CC field, so the reply template
adds an additional BCC.

So that message will be on the server twice, with the same mid. It
will be downloaded at home, but one of the two will be marked as
"Receive" in the message despatcher at next check. (I don't usually
use the despatcher, but verified this problem that way.) If I take the
mark off, it will be set again at next mail check. so the message (one
copy of two on the server) will be downloaded again at each mailcheck.

> I can't duplicate this problem and it likely is that you have a filter
> that's sending back a copy to the server and as a result a delivery loop
> is underway.

See above. At mailcheck, there is no filter sending it back. Have you
verified that the message is on your server twice to begin with?

TB checks the UID and not the mid to decide whether a message has been
downloaded already. The UID should be different for each of the two
copies on the server, so both copies should be downloaded once. I
don't know why the Receive flag is set again each time, but only for
one of the two existing copies of the message on the server.

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Re: Kill dupes

[Allie Martin]

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> Can nobody else confirm this? Send a message to yourself, put your own
> address into both the CC and the BCC. See how the messages is
> downloaded again and again at each mailcheck.
What do you mean here? That there's always a copy on the server with
each check?
I can't duplicate this problem and it likely is that you have a filter
that's sending back a copy to the server and as a result a delivery loop
is underway.
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Re: Kill dupes

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello TBBETA,

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:09:41 +0700 GMT (13/02/2004, 21:09 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>> When I send private mails from my office, I BCC to myself, so that I
>> get a copy when I download mails at home. By mistake, my address was
>> both in the CC and th BCC. So when I downloaded mails at home, I got
>> two copies.

>> No problem, "kill dupes". One of the messages was deleted, as
>> expected.

>> When online at home, I check mail every 10 minutes. The deleted
>> message was downloaded every time!

> This is still true in 2.04RC/2.

Still true with 2.04.4, both under Win98 and XP Pro.

Can nobody else confirm this? Send a message to yourself, put your own
address into both the CC and the BCC. See how the messages is
downloaded again and again at each mailcheck.

Since it is happening to me on both computers and under different
OS'es, it is either TB itself, or it is my email provider (GMX). I
haven't tested it with another provider, but will if nobody can
confirm. Thanks.

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Re: Kill dupes

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello TBBETA,

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:41:38 +0700 GMT (16/01/2004, 23:41 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

> When I send private mails from my office, I BCC to myself, so that I
> get a copy when I download mails at home. By mistake, my address was
> both in the CC and th BCC. So when I downloaded mails at home, I got
> two copies.

> No problem, "kill dupes". One of the messages was deleted, as
> expected.

> When online at home, I check mail every 10 minutes. The deleted
> message was downloaded every time!

This is still true in 2.04RC/2.

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Re: Kill Dupes and Alternatives

[SyP]

Hello The Bat! beta users and developers,

Peter Gannushkin wrote on 12/8/2000, 7:28 PM

Peter>   1. In some mail lists people are sending copies to private addresses
Peter>   too. As all my mail is filtered I don't really need them. The only
Peter>   way to deal with them is to kill dupes manually. I wonder if there
Peter>   is a way to put it into the filter or folder properties.

Create 2 filter (in the following order):

 The first will catch any mail that really went through the listserver.
 Condition: if Sender contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] move to TBUDL.

 The second one will catch the mail that was CC:-d to you:
 Condition: if Recipient contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] , delete
 message (Actions tab).

Hope that helps
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Re: Kill Dupes and Alternatives

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Peter,

On  Fri, 8 Dec 2000  at  13:28:07 GMT -0500 (which was 10:28 AM
where I live) witnesses say Peter Gannushkin typed:

>   1. In some mail lists people are sending copies to private addresses
>   too. As all my mail is filtered I don't really need them. The only
>   way to deal with them is to kill dupes manually. I wonder if there
>   is a way to put it into the filter or folder properties.

Well by manually, you mean you have to select the menu command once
every couple of mail checks?  If that's what you mean, then yes, you
have to do it manually.

>   2. It seems like Alternatives tab is useless in filter properties
>   because I can use "|" in the main tab.

Depends how fancy you want to get.  Suppose I want to look for
(januk AND canada.com) OR (januk AND something else)

This will catch all mail with my address even if I put in some spam
blocking stuff.

The other thing you might want to do is search for one string in one
location or another string in another location.  This is most easily
accomplished using Alternatives.  For example, maybe you want all mail
that is not directly addressed to you and any mail you send yourself.
Then your filter conditions would be:

Main:
String   Location Presence
your address RecipientNo

Alternative:
String   Location Presence
your address Sender   Yes
 

TB's filtering conditions allow for huge flexibility, even without
regular expressions. Add regular expressions to the mix and you can do
*very* fancy things.

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