Re: PTV bug

2008-03-28 Thread Roger Phillips 
Hello Kertész,

Friday, March 28, 2008, 1:48:24 PM, among other things, you wrote:

>> In  this  reply  it  is  working normally, but will not go below the
>> bottom line of my signature.(I'm not sure whether this WAD)

KV> Hmmm... It _always_ go beyond the last line at me using MicroEd. It is
KV> the Windows Editor, where it cannot go beyond the last line. (I know,
KV> you sent a screenshot showing that you use MicroEd).
I  have  been  searching  for  the  reason  for  our difference and have now
discovered it. The option 'Free caret positioning' has to be turned *ON* for
the behaviour you and Vili have. Mine was not turned on!

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-27 Thread Roger Phillips 
Hello Vili,

Thursday, March 27, 2008, 8:59:54 PM, among other things, you wrote:

 Pressing down arrow does nothing here!
KV>>> Because you are using the Windows editor. We are talking about
KV>>> MicroEd (check yesterday's mail in the thread).
>> I  am  *not* using the Windows editor and have never used it. Please see the
>> attached 'Message editor bar.jpg' file.

V> Hmm...

V> Anyway, many of us experience the problem, so Ritlabs will fix it.
We  hope  so  Vili,  but  it  is  difficult  when different things happen on
different  computers!  It  is  better  if we can tell them why, or when, the
differences  occur.  It seems that here the down arrow key only malfunctions
when  the  editor has been completely cleared by Ctrl+A. 

In  this reply it is working normally, but will not go below the bottom line
of my signature.(I'm not sure whether this WAD)

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-27 Thread Roger Phillips 
Hello Kertész,

Thursday, March 27, 2008, 12:56:30 PM, among other things, you wrote:

>> Pressing down arrow does nothing here!

KV> Because you are using the Windows editor. We are talking about
KV> MicroEd (check yesterday's mail in the thread).
I  am  *not* using the Windows editor and have never used it. Please see the
attached 'Message editor bar.jpg' file.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Roger Phillips 
Hello Hendrik,

Thursday, March 27, 2008, 7:57:51 AM, among other things, you wrote:

V>>> - open a new mail to write
V>>> - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1
V>>> position)
V>>> - press e.g. "a" on the keyboard, there will be a single "a" char in
V>>> the first line
V>>> - press the down arrow once

>> Pressing down arrow does nothing here!

HO> Do you have the focus on the message text? At least, the cursor
HO> should go down one line if you hit the down arrow...

I  did  things  exactly  as  described above. If I use the down arrow before
Ctrl+A etc. it works normally.


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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin 
"Roger Phillips" wrote on 27/03/2008 at 14:24:44 +1100 
subject "PTV bug" :

V>> - open a new mail to write
V>> - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1
V>> position)
V>> - press e.g. "a" on the keyboard, there will be a single "a" char in
V>> the first line
V>> - press the down arrow once

> Pressing down arrow does nothing here!

Do you have the focus on the message text? At least, the cursor
should go down one line if you hit the down arrow...

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Roger Phillips 
Hello Vili,

Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 6:00:58 PM, among other things, you wrote:

V> Ok, do this then:

V> - open a new mail to write
V> - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1
V> position)
V> - press e.g. "a" on the keyboard, there will be a single "a" char in
V> the first line
V> - press the down arrow once
Pressing down arrow does nothing here!

V> At us, the "a" (first line) disappears. At you?
Nothing. Cannot confirm.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Rick Grunwald 

> am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 um 17:38 schrieb Thomas Fernandez:

>> It's all a big conspiracy.

> I feel lightened, they no longer watch me :-)

They can't be after you, it's ME they're after!!!   :))

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Jens Franik 

am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 um 17:38 schrieb Thomas Fernandez:

> It's all a big conspiracy.

I feel lightened, they no longer watch me :-)

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin 
"Vili" wrote on 27/03/2008 at 03:00:58 +1100 
subject "PTV bug" :

> Ok, do this then:

> - open a new mail to write
> - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1
> position)
> - press e.g. "a" on the keyboard, there will be a single "a" char in
> the first line
> - press the down arrow once

> At us, the "a" (first line) disappears. At you?

I have an other symptom of the bug:

make an new message using as template only "%BLANK"
The cursor should be in the "To:" line.
Press TAB as often to put the cursor in the text part (or click ONCE
i the text part.
The cursor is now with some distance (5mm) to the top, but status
line indicates "1:1".
Press one single character.

The cursor and the character moves up 5mm (one line?) and status bar
indicates "1:2"

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Vili,

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:00:58 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 23:00 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

>> I'm not sure where you are going with this, as the bug was that the
>> first line disappears, but I'll go along. Next instruction, please.

V> Ok, do this then:

V> - open a new mail to write
V> - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1
V> position)
V> - press e.g. "a" on the keyboard, there will be a single "a" char in
V> the first line
V> - press the down arrow once

V> At us, the "a" (first line) disappears. At you?

Disappeared! My gosh, you are right.

Why didn't it happen when I followed Frank's instructions? Did my
duck steal the tape in the meantime? It's all a big conspiracy.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Vili,

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:35:27 -0400 GMT (26/03/2008, 22:35 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

V> Do this (be sure that Options, Message format, Microed: checked):
V> - open a new mail to write
V> - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1
V> position)
V> - press the down arrow once

V> At us, the right scrollbar appears. At you?

Scrollbar appears.

I'm not sure where you are going with this, as the bug was that the
first line disappears, but I'll go along. Next instruction, please.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Jens,

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:41:59 +0100 GMT (26/03/2008, 02:41 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

>> But then, I'm also using 4.0.18.6 now. Maybe the bug has been fixed?

JF> No, sure not, here are the 2 views:

JF> Please note, that there are always 10 and more Lines under the Picture.

JF> Anlagen:
JF>1) 20080325-First-Line-away-02.png (4542 Byte, IrfanView PNG File)
JF>2) 20080325-First-Line-away-01.png (5296 Byte, IrfanView PNG File)

I see what you mean. Others have confirmed it. All I can say is that I
seem to have a freak system on which it doesn't happen. It's like
someone reports a bug which nobody can confirm but it is persistent on
his system. Only the other way around.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin 
"Jens Franik" wrote on 26/03/2008 at 01:47:35 +1100 
subject "PTV bug" :

> - Reply to this Mail
> - now you are in Edit Message Modus
> - go down under the Signature and go down 2-3 Lines more (no writing)
> - see if Scrollbar appears and First Line Disappears

Confirmed. But only if the quoted text is short enough and no
vertical scrollbar is visible at the beginning.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Jens Franik 
am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 um 16:42 schrieb Thomas Fernandez:

> But then, I'm also using 4.0.18.6 now. Maybe the bug has been fixed?

No, sure not, here are the 2 views:

Please note, that there are always 10 and more Lines under the Picture.

Anlagen:
   1) 20080325-First-Line-away-02.png (4542 Byte, IrfanView PNG File)
   2) 20080325-First-Line-away-01.png (5296 Byte, IrfanView PNG File)

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Vili,

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:38:29 -0400 GMT (25/03/2008, 23:38 +0700 GMT),
Vili wrote:

V> We use MicroEd. You must use Windows Editor.

No, I use MicroEd.

V> At us, when you DONT exceed the window height, even then the
V> scrollbar appears.

>> But then, I'm also using 4.0.18.6 now. Maybe the bug has been fixed?

V> No, just checked.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Rick Grunwald 
 Maybe I just don't understand what you want to say. Over here, it
 starts scrolling when I'm at the bottom of the screen, as it should.
>>> - Reply to this Mail
>>> - now you are in Edit Message Modus
>>> - go down under the Signature and go down 2-3 Lines more (no writing)
>>> - see if Scrollbar appears and First Line Disappears
>> Yes it does even though there is no need for it to do so

> And that is the bug.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Jens,

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:47:35 +0100 GMT (25/03/2008, 21:47 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

JF> - see if Scrollbar appears and First Line Disappears

I cur your reply even short (makred the line above and hit F4), so
that no scrollbar is there when the editor opens. The moment I go
down below the sig enough to exceed the window height, the first line
disappears and the scrollbar appears. It works as expected over here.

But then, I'm also using 4.0.18.6 now. Maybe the bug has been fixed?

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Rick Grunwald 
> am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 um 15:26 schrieb Thomas Fernandez:

>> Maybe I just don't understand what you want to say. Over here, it
>> starts scrolling when I'm at the bottom of the screen, as it should.

> - Reply to this Mail
> - now you are in Edit Message Modus
> - go down under the Signature and go down 2-3 Lines more (no writing)
> - see if Scrollbar appears and First Line Disappears

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Jens Franik 
am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 um 15:26 schrieb Thomas Fernandez:

> Maybe I just don't understand what you want to say. Over here, it
> starts scrolling when I'm at the bottom of the screen, as it should.

- Reply to this Mail
- now you are in Edit Message Modus
- go down under the Signature and go down 2-3 Lines more (no writing)
- see if Scrollbar appears and First Line Disappears

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Jens,

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:26:01 +0100 GMT (25/03/2008, 19:26 +0700 GMT),
Jens Franik wrote:

JF> This Mail is very short (I have more than 10 Lines left under it!), but
JF> when i am in Edit Mode to reply to you, it's scrolling immediately after
JF> i got 2 Lines lower than last Signature Line.

JF> Maybe you like to try it again?

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Maybe I just don't understand what you want to say. Over here, it
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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Marek Mikus 
Hello all,
Tuesday, March 25, 2008, Jens Franik wrote:

> Confirmed, this was already seen here by Marek Mikus recently, i think.
> But it was been fixed in some issue?

no, not fixed in 4.0.18.5

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Jens Franik 

am Sonntag, 23. März 2008 um 05:58 schrieb Thomas Fernandez:

>> Kertész Vilmos wrote:
>>
>> In plain text (MicroEd) editor, when I write a mail, if I move
>> below the last line, the first line disappear from the screen. In
>> RTV, it works ok.
>>
>> Confirmations?

> Only if the screen is too small - what I'm saying is that it scrolls 
> correctly.

This Mail is very short (I have more than 10 Lines left under it!), but
when i am in Edit Mode to reply to you, it's scrolling immediately after
i got 2 Lines lower than last Signature Line.

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-25 Thread Jens Franik 

am Sonntag, 23. März 2008 um 02:56 schrieb Kertész Vilmos:

> In  plain  text (MicroEd) editor, when I write a mail, if I move below
> the  last  line,  the first line disappear from the screen. In RTV, it
> works ok.

> Confirmations?

Confirmed, this was already seen here by Marek Mikus recently, i think.
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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Volker,

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 22:23:10 +0100 GMT (24/03/2008, 04:23 +0700 GMT),
Volker Ahrendt wrote:

>> Only if the screen is too small - what I'm saying is that it scrolls
>> correctly.

VA> What do you call "small"? Here this behavior occurs even in fullscreen
VA> which is 1280x1024 pixels. ;-)

Apparently, that's too small, when taking the screen resolution and
maybe the font size into consideration. ;-)

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-23 Thread Volker Ahrendt 
[Reply to: »Thomas Fernandez« · 2008-03-23 · 05:58 h (CET)]

Moin, Thomas!

>> In plain text (MicroEd) editor, when I write a mail, if I move
>> below the last line, the first line disappear from the screen. In
>> RTV, it works ok.

>> Confirmations?

> Only if the screen is too small - what I'm saying is that it scrolls
> correctly.

What do you call "small"? Here this behavior occurs even in fullscreen
which is 1280x1024 pixels. ;-)

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-22 Thread Marek Mikus 
Hello all,
Sunday, March 23, 2008, Kertész Vilmos wrote:

> In  plain  text (MicroEd) editor, when I write a mail, if I move below
> the  last  line,  the first line disappear from the screen. In RTV, it
> works ok.

> Confirmations?

yes, already reported here and in BT: 
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6930

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Re: PTV bug

2008-03-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Kertész,

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:56:09 +0100 GMT (23/03/2008, 08:56 +0700 GMT),
Kertész Vilmos wrote:

KV> In plain text (MicroEd) editor, when I write a mail, if I move
KV> below the last line, the first line disappear from the screen. In
KV> RTV, it works ok.

KV> Confirmations?

Only if the screen is too small - what I'm saying is that it scrolls correctly.

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